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What type of idiot actually buys software? Pirate that shit.
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Someone who isn't poor. If you pay for things then further products can be developed.
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Semi related: why does Microsoft allow pirated copies of Windows to use all the Microsoft services and get Windows Updates?

Wouldn't it be in their best interest to block pirate copies from accessing Windows updates?
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>>45391409
what type of idiot uses nonfree software op?
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>>45391440
>implying they can

kek
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>>45391438
Microsoft makes most of their money from enterprise customers and system builders, doubt they give a shit about the tiny minority of people who build their own PCs and pirate Windows.
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>>45391409
ayy
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My Aunt asked me to go buy her Windows 8 from Best Buy, I pocketed the money and pirated a copy of Windows 8.

I'm glad people actually pay for that shit now.
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>>45391454
>This copy of Windows was activated with Daz Loader/RemoveWAT/KMS Activator/or it doesn't have a unique CD key
>Blocked

???
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People who have money in their pocket and can't into Linux. Normalfags.
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>>45391438
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>>45391440

I can only guess it's because having windows update malfunction on a legitimate system would be a shit storm so they give systems the benefit of the doubt
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>>45391438
tell that to my bleeding edge arch install
:^)
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>>45391470
>he thinks MS can predict the future and block something that doesn't exist yet
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>>45391511
...what?

Can't they just check to see if the copy of Windows is using a unique CD key that they issued and has been activated through their servers, and if not, block it?
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>>45391529
>he doesn't even know how MS copy protection
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>>45391468
Wow, what a fucking jew, but it's the sensible thing to do.
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>>45391409
Dear anon
you don't need to copy that software.
pirating is bad because of people can die if you attack a ship
you can live with free-software only.
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>>45391554
>loonix
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>>45391409
>pirating windows
>not getting for free via college programs and still be eligible for updates
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>>45391549
how MS copy protection what?
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>>45391550
Free $119, pretty gud goy
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>>45391409
I pirate, but if I had the money I would buy software you dickhead.
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>>45391570
>windows
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>>45391581
works
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If you pay for Windows you are mentally challenged. This of course excludes businesses and the like.
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>>45391554
Dear god that's ugly.
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>>45391497
If it's not a money issue, why don't you pay for software?

inb4 some bullshit about how it's immoral to sell software, and you're fighting the capitalistic patriarchy for the good of humankind. You're just a selfish and/or poor faggot.
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>>45391448
People who get shit done.
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>>45391468
>tfw bought a ton of $15 Windows 8 Pro keys by inputting fake info during the Windows 7 upgrade period
>Sure I'll install you Windows 8 for half the price at retail

They all think I'm a hero.
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>>45391633
>charging your family to install windows
>paying hundreds for windows licenses to begin with
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>>45391602
what a backstabbing cunt. die you kike
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>>45391440
They tried once.
Look up Windows Genuine Advantage.
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>>45391440

I injected SLIC tables into my bios so my PC looks like every other OEM peice of shit. That was back when I used Windows, they smartly changed it to unique keys for 8.
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>>45391608
well then Mr. MS Windows Copy Protection Engineer, how does it work?
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>>45391440
>Wouldn't it be in their best interest to block pirate copies from accessing Windows updates?
Oh fuck no.
For several reasons.
One, massive massive increase in malware and viruses as systems now can't be patched.
Two, they want you to pirate windows, get addicted, and then pay.
It's classic dealer strategies.
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>>45391608

i dont, please elaborate since the memes dont tell me anything
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>>45391654
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff793434.aspx
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>>45391657
>Two, they want you to pirate windows, get addicted, and then pay.

But why would I ever pay when it's so easy to pirate? I've been pirating Windows since 98, and I don't plan on paying for it any time soon.

Also, why would they care if people using pirated copies get malware? It ain't their problem, it's only the paying customers they have an obligation to protect.
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>>45391645
>charging your family to install windows

I never said that.
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>>45391468
>scamming your own family
fucking cunt
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I've have windows pirated since XP. I actually own a legit copy of windows pro because I bought my refurb thinkpad t410 from microcenter with it preloaded.

>I might buy windows 10 if it isn't utter shit and driver support exists.
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There's one reason and only one reason.

Pirates are going to pirate Windows no matter what MS does. Fighting pirates and inconveniencing normal users as well just pisses off paying customers.

If they make it extremely hard to pirate then pirates will just move to other OSes. Letting pirates suck a couple million terabytes of updates is a small price to maintain OS marketshare and mindshare.

It also reduces pirates getting buttfucked with security holes and blaming Windows for not being secure even if MS already fixed the exploit.
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I just had a thought

Why would I ever buy Windows when I can go out and buy a laptop RUNNING windows for close to the price?
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>>45391468
>forcing malware on your aunt

It's one thing to be a dipshit and pirate your os using some nonfree shitware from god knows who which does god knows what to your install, but it's another to steal money from someone and then infecting them with this garbage

fuck yourself dipshit.
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>install Debian
>kill an hour or so upgrading to Sid, installing Compton and some themes
>looks better than what you're using
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>>45391803
Not in every market, but yeah, if you are in the US you should buy a new laptop.
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>>45391811
Stop being such a whiny little cunt, you fucking faggot.
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>>45391554
God damn that is hideous.
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So let's say your PC runs a Linux host, and for gaming you have a Windows guest machine over KVM with VGA Passthrough (via VT-d/AMD-Vi) which takes control of your discrete GPU.

Now let's say you only have one 2560x1440 monitor with one Dual-Link DVI Input. You need the monitor to be connected to the integrated GPU's output while using the Linux host and connected to the discrete GPU's output when using the Windows guest.

What is the cheapest way to switch between display outputs with a single input? DVI-D KVM Switches with the bandwidth needed for 2560x1440 are in excess of $150.

In the event that the best option is to simply manually switch the monitor's DVI cable between outputs, does a form of dumb switch (non-KVM switch, just physically switches between sources and nothing else) exist to do this more conveniently?
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>>45391811
Exactly what I have thought.
Unless he used MAK activation from free online keys he better refund money.
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>>45391937
get a monitor with more than one input

alternatively manually switch the cables
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>>45391957
*Return.
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Someone who is new to the internet.
Someone who wants to uphold the law.
Someone who believes a good software = paid software.
Someone who is legally required to upon required inspection.
(Professional who don't want their work to be damaged)
Legit Businesses who don't want to be sued.
Government office.
Military office.
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>>45391554
nigga the fuck are you doing
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>Best Buy store still using the old tags

Ha!
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>>45392017
Sunday is when they change it I believe.
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>>45391409
why not just steal the boxes
they're gonna blame you on thievery anyway so you better do it right

I believe you might get away easier on thievery than on DMR infringement
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>>45391440
Microsoft owns the PC OS market because it doesn't make piracy impossible or impractical. It makes gestures not really intended to deter piracy, and it can afford to because BUNDLED OS are where the money is. Not enough people build their own PCs for separate OS sales to be a huge deal.

http://www.informationweek.com/if-youre-going-to-steal-software-steal-from-us-microsoft-exec/d/d-id/1052865?

That's also how it owns the office software market. Office 97 came out any most people who used it at work copied the disk and used it at home. Now other office suites have trivial marketshare.
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>>45391409

>What type of idiot actually buys software?


You´re mom
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>>45392528
ur mum loved my hardware so much she let me install my software
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>>45392528
>>45392575
Little girls pleases me.
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>>45391409
Piracy is theft.

Think of the software engineer who went to work every day to write that code. She probably missed time with her significant other and/or family to write that software for YOU the CUSTOMER, and you're going to turn around and steal it.

Learn some morals /g/. For people who like to drone on about how evil and unethical software companies are, you sure don't have any ethics yourselves.
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>>45392575

I like it

I'm going to steal that
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>>45392610
Theft is theft.

Piracy is intellectual property violation.
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>>45392610
tell that to her money hoarding boss, not to the user that is not forced to buy anything
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>>45392610


>She
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>>45392610
that stupid.
capitalism is theft.
taxes are theft.
democracy is cheating.
what morals can have that companies?
monsante has morals
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>>45392610
The retailer loses money, if anyone, "her" company was already paid by a publisher or made their cash by selling copies to a retailer.
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theres no need to pirate if you have partnership with microsoft and rest of the needed software can be obtained for free
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>pirating software
>not getting it for free through your University
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>>45392861
I have that also

enjoy your "pirating" your botnet when you can get legit copies for free
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>>45392861
>free
even if it's a public university, you're paying taxes or someone else is paying taxes for you

you're stealing from the poor
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>>45392925
Nope, private institution. Full scholarship. I'm stealing from nobody.
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>>45392944
either way it's not free
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>>45392925
let the scum pay for my products

bow to me faggots
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>>45392925
>stealing from myself
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>>45392961
I paid only for the computer on which I installed it. The software itself was free.
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>>45391409
I'm a software engineer and have a quite bigger disposable income now than 10 years ago. I buy windows and other software because it's hassle free and somewhat safe from whatever extra shit slipped in in the pirate version. I still pirate media though for two reasons. It's more convenient and higher quality than commercial alternatives.
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>>45392925
>spending $100,000 just to get Windows
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>>45392976
Take an economics class, you fucking faggot, the software isn't free.
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>>45391409
This is why Linux will never be more than a hobbyist OS. You Freetards limit growth.
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>>45393077
If you're going to try to argue, don't waste everyone's time by just spewing ad hominems. At least try to put effort into it.
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>>45393096
>freetards
>pirating
Congrats you have no idea what you're talking about
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>>45391409
Business and people that do work on their computers. You can get in big trouble if you profit from using pirated software.
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Daz loader is not safe? First time im hearing this
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>>45393125
I think you don't know what you're talking about. You treat your developers like shit.
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>>45393125
>pirates software
>gets free software
>not a freetard

stay retarded freetard
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>>45393128
>big trouble
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>>45391440
if you pirate it and develop on it or promote it in any way, you are furthering their brand regardless and helping them keep market share. That's why they allow it.
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>>45391409

Don't forget to reuse your OEM keys on Windows 7 machines that had it factory installed. Much simpler.
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>>45391455
That be some poor logic, friendo.

Successful companies maximise revenue from multiple streams of their business. Just because the brunt of it comes from Enterprise/re-seller areas, doesn't mean they don't pay try maximise income in other areas.

That's like saying McDonalds makes so much of its money from lunch and dinner options, they don't care how successful its breakfast products are.
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>>45393163
Yeezus christ, there are people on /g/ right now who haven't read a single essay by our one true god, rms.
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>>45391440
Two main reasons:
1. Vulnerabilities. It's why you make vaccines cheap/free, so that the majority of the population can be immune. If there are a shitload of infected copies of windows kicking about, they spread that shit.
2. Microsoft isn't selling software, they're selling an ecosystem. Their biggest customers are businesses. You use a pirated copy of windows at home and that's the OS you're used to using, so at work you use Windows too. And they have to pay for it.
It's also why windows is cheap as fuck for OEMs. They sell computers with Windows, and so whenever you buy a computer you're getting brought into the microsoft club. All your software, all your experience, is all in the microsoft fun land. So if you want to continue to be in microsoft fun land you have to pay.

Imagine if people were forced to use linux at home and microsoft at work. Businesses would just switch to linux.
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I buy software. My copy of Windows was $60 and I don't have to worry about loaders so it's worth it for me. And until /r/microsoftsoftwareswap gets shut down legit keys are $20.
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>>45392610
And for all the copies it did sell, she's seeing a tiny, tiny fraction of the money it makes. Even taking into consideration the tiny fraction she would have contributed to colossal software projects like windows.

If anything, the company is stealing from her.
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ITT: rationalizing theft

>inb4: u can't steal code because the original is still there

No. It's theft if you don't pay for something that costs money to obtain via legal means.
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>>45391497
>hurr durr Windows is shit, but I still need to pirate it for reasons
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>>45392610
Software is a service, not a product.

She was paid by a person (microsoft) to write code. She walked home with a paycheck. Then that person turned around and tried to make money off the code they wrote and instead of making 2 billion in profit they made 1.5 billion in profit because a shitload of people pirated

But the software engineer is sitting at home eating a fat fucking pork roast
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>>45394352
The theft is charging for computer software in the first place.
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>>45391986
>Military office
That's kinda scary.
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>>45394378
So it is ok to steal services? Plumbers, lawyers, and the like should never be paid either then
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>>45391468
> Scamming your own family
Jesus
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>>45391455
>>45392500
>>45394252
... and patents. I remember they're currently in a lawsuit against Samsung with lots of money involved.

>>45391554
This is why we can't have people think Leenucks is nice. Dammit.

>>45392610
You know, that argument is invalid. Pirated or not, she's still gonna get her pennies to get milk and buy nice clothes. People working for Canonical, Gnome or Red Hat and get paid produce software that is never charged for... so yeah, you're going to need to come up with something better than the movie industry shit.

>>45393077
Yes it is free. I suggest you research on the DreamSpark program for instance... Microsoft gives away enrolment into that program to educational institutions.
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>>45391440
As other people said, they're fine with it as long as you're using it, getting used to it and not changing to a gnu/linux distro or worse, apple
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>>45392610
>She
you lost me
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>>45395902
moralfag detected
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>>45392610
>muh morals
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>>45393845
It's more like mcdonalds saying they don't care a store in texas made extra fries one night when it was already running slow for the night and they just had to throw them away.

How much revenue do you think Microsoft has? How many people do you think pirate windows?

It would cost them more money to prevent pirating then they would gain.
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>>45396131
le not edgy, totally run-of-the-mill misogyny
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>>45392861
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>Visual Studio Professional is now practically free
>Windows 10 will also be free
GNU/Linux is finished
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>>45391614
>If you pay for Windows you are mentally challenged.
Let your tears flow, poorfag teenager.
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>>45391657

I mean, do they particularly care if a system running pirated windows gets infected by a virus?
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>>45391554
That color scheme is meant to help those who can't see well.
You're intentionally making it look bad to others.
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>>45392861
>free
Don't ever change, goy.
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>>45392610
>Learn some morals /g/. For people who like to drone on about how evil and unethical software companies are, you sure don't have any ethics yourselves.
>Implying I use nonfree software.
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>>45396216
Get the fuck out you transnigger.
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>>45391614
Well, considering I have an MSDN Ultimate subscription, I must be really challenged...

Except, I make enough that your opinion means nothing more than the time I've taken to tell you... You're a fucking moron.
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>>45396525
u mad
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>>45391621
>If it's not a money issue, why don't you pay for software?
Because most free software is also gratis. I give back to the community by shilling on /g/.
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When all software is free, none of it will be.
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>>45395515
Read his post again. Programmer doesn't get hurt here, because he/she wouldn't get paid any more anyway in a giant corporation like that. People on higher positions in Microsoft get less profit, which is insanely high anyway. Microsoft is swimming in money, they throw it away on the most stupid stuff like Scroogled commercials for example. Buying Windows instead for pirating won't make it any better.
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>>45392861
>Keys only last for two years
Didn't really think it through, did you?
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Windows doesn't even come with a proper shell.
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>>45392925
Microsoft gives away free copies of windows to educational institutions to create dependency on their non free software.
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How do I into pirating Windows 8.1?
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>>45397059
The key is to eliminate your desire for Windows.

Then you can achieve enlightenment.
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>>45391409
Speaking of windoze, what's the current consensus regarding 'doze 7 vs 'doze 8/10?

>inb4 gentoo
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I have encountered some problems with pirated Windows copies, for example, some USB devices don't work on pirated Windows copies
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>>45397123
Only use 7 if you're a dumbass who thinks "Xp teh best windowze amirite hahaah"
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What are the downsides to not paying for windows?
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>>45397151
Guilt, if you're a spineless faggot. Other than that, there are none.
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I got my copy of Windows 7 for $20 and I got my Windows 8 upgrade for $15 and I got three Windows 8 keys for family by stealing upgrades from my work.

It's what runs my computer. I can justify the $35 I've spent over the past 6 years. Just like I can justify the $1300 I just spent on a monitor today.
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>>45397123
Time to let 7 rest in piece
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>>45397151
Using Windows.
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>>45396023
>Microsoft gives away enrolment into that program to educational institutions.

Afaik, not really. Institutions have to PAY for that program. Hence, it's not free.
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>>45397151
Even more botnet
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so is Daz loader for Windows 7 a botnet? Is there alternatives? This is for someone who will not pay triple digits for Windows.
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>>45397169
>pay triple digits
Are you stupid
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>>45397171
Winblows is like 100 dollars fgt
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>>45397182
lmao whatever your country is I'm not touching it
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>>45397000

It means you have to activate them before two years have passed since you got the keys. NOT that your windows copy will become invalid after two years, it will last forever. And even on that two years time and two machines per key limits, I don't believe there are any checks.
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>>45397188
America
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>>45391554
>linux
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>Needing to activate your software.
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>>45397201
GNU/Linux.
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>>45397215
Enjoy your terminal
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>>45397219
>Everything I use needs to have a GUI.
>X doesn't exist.
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>>45397139
>>45397156

And run what, 8.1 or 10?
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There are some decent and cheap computers that come with Windows 8.
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>>45397236
8.1. 10 if you're feeling like taking a risk
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>>45397236
you run gentoo
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>>45397246
Hmm, intradesting.

And would i be safe in assuming that there's ways of de-gaying 'doze 8, which is to say get rid of the touch screen bullshit and have it look like my riced out 2kool4skool 'doze 7?
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>>45397261
google it
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>>45397261
Go back to Reddit.
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>>45391684
You're missing the point. It's a lot like the Adobe CS strategy, where they allow the software to be pirated by individuals so when they enter the professional/commercial environment they expect the software to be licensed to them. Accustom your users to the software so that their workflow involves your software, that way businesses purchase enterprise licences of the software to maintain productivity.
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>>45391554
>somebody uses this on a day to day basis
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>>45397261
I'm not sure why you would want that. If you don't need the Metro menu, you don't have to use it, but you can install a program that brings the old start menu back and I'm sure there are many ways to rice it.
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>Micro$oft spends millions on research and development (whether is bears fruit or not)
>People think it should be free and they have the right to get it for free

I don't have anything against pirating but this is a shit mentality.
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>>45397285
>Microsoft strongarms themselves into power.
>They fund research, so that means they can enslave us and it's justified.
>bears
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>>45397285
If you don't give over your code to me then you're a fascist capitalist
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>>45393845
I'm definitely having an egg mcmuffin tomorrow. Thanks.
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>>45396216
Reminder that women are physically and emotionally weaker than men.
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>>45397261
Stop talking like a fucking faggot.
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o.o
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>>45397151
KMSPico could be a botnet and you'd never know for sure.
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>>45391455
They do in fact, I live in a small country in Asia and the Microsoft country office was so jobless as to sue the small shack vendors who sold pirated CDs of Windows XP
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>>45397219
thanks!
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>>45391455
Infact it is better for Microsoft if you pirate Windows instead of using linux.
Monopoly is a funny thing.
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>>45391607
Sorry mister vagina forehead.
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>>45396933
No, actually you're making the community look bad.
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>>45391440
no
it is best ad
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Yeah but... How do you make sure the pirated windows doesn't have viruses in it? I don't want to download something sketchy from thepiratebay if there is a chance it might give me viruses, steal my passwords etc.
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>>45397806
check the hash
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>>45397811
Make sure it's an algorithm without easily made collisions.
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>>45391409
>having to buy your OS
ayy
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>>45391409
Ayy lmao
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>>45397921
>Not being able to modify the inner workings of your OS
lmao
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>>45397156
Fuck no, nigga.

I'll be running 7 until 2020 when Microsoft cuts support. Hell, I'll still probably be using it even after that.
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>>45397938
fuck that shit, HP charges £99 for that when it should be around £60
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>>45397944
>le locked down OS argument
:^)
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>>45397952
That would be a cool thing to do. You may want to be known as the guy that does that.
Did you know that Reddit has accounts :^)
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>>45397962
>le NSA shill
<:^)
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how do you pirate windows 8?
I've only installed windows 7 with daz loader before, is there a daz loader for windows 8?
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>>45398000
kmspico
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>>45398039
thanks
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>>45398039
is the official site for this kmspico.net?
because the only version of dazloader I'd get was from mydigitallife.info
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>>45398125
no idea, i don't use windows
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> All shouting how horrible windows is
> Still gotta pirate


Why you havent switched to Linux based distros?
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>>45398161
Because i work for a living.
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>>45398463
What OS do they use to drive the systems at McDonalds?
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>>45398493
I don't know, maybe you should ask your boss?
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