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Do sysadmin's make a lot of money?
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Do sysadmin's make a lot of money?
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>>45126547
define allot.
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>>45126625
150 thousand dollars or more per year
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>>45126636
no then
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>>45126642
Why not?
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>>45126625
>define allot.
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>>45126547

Some can at a very young age like 22 or 23 make about $85k/year.

Those who see the light of "DevOps" can make about $140k/year by age 26.

Those who know OpenStack, Joyent's SmartOS/SmartDataCenter, know networking (Juniper JNCIA at the least) and know how to code with Python in a pragmatic way are worth about $250k/year and companies compete to get those types of hires.

Good systems guys are hard to find though and the really valuable ones started using Linux when they were 15 or 16.

In this world you don't always get what you deserve but what you negotiate for. If you're into systems and are an introvert go to a few music festivals and get that out of your system -- real-world is cut-throat, be cut-throat in the workplace.
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>>45126547
>Do sysadmin's make a lot of money?
It depends where you live and what company you work for.
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>>45126765
My younger sister who recently turned 16 got into Linux (Debian-based) and networking from me. Would she end up finding a good job as sysadmin in a small town?
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>>45126547
>sysadmin's
Remember when something goes even slightly wrong all the fingers will be pointing at you :^)
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>>45126816
>sister
No, she'll scare the other sysadmins away
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>>45126765
I started using Linux in my sophomore year of high school, but I wouldn't exactly say I'm skilled. I doubt I'd have any idea what to do if you just dropped me into a sysadmin position; I'd at least need some time to get acquainted.
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>>45126547
Keep in mind cost of living. Currently, I live about an hour south of Seattle and just recently worked for Microsoft. I was making $83,000/year.

My apartment down here? $815/month. Same apartment within 45 min of Redmond? ~$1500/month. In Redmond? ~$2500/month

Yes, I spent more in gas, but not enough to balance out.

Now I'm looking at a DevOps position, mostly tied to powershell automation. Pay range? $90K - $115K/year.

Commute time? ~20min each way.
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>>45126765
>Joyent's SmartOS/SmartDataCenter,
>mfw I have that on my colocated server
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>>45126858
Pls teach me how to follow your ways, master
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>>45126872
Don't get into I.T. (Sysadmin / DevOps / Programing) to make money. Do it because you enjoy it.
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>>45126547
You wont make as much money compared to a <insert language here> programmer sad but it's true, will depend on your luck finding a good company that will value your work.

Just a small thought, we manage all the infrastructure of a company, 1 mistake from us and the company die for a couple of hours at the best but still we are are under payed compared to other "important" positions.
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>>45126919
That's because the "muh STEM" idiots and the H-1B visa program are designed specifically to suppress tech sector wages.
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>>45126765

is that you michael?
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skilled software engineers are more in demand and generally are better paid


however most of the time its an incredibly stressful job
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>>45126636
I'm making $50k, interviewing for a $65k job tomorrow. Not bad for Chicago's cost of living, especially not having any student debt.
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>>45127063


sys admin is the coffee drinkers job, while it can get just as stressful, truth is, most of the time you do next to nothing


most programmers are close to getting whipped to work harder, not to mention how much more difficult the work gets for those that do work when there are incompetents among their ranks
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>>45127046
Say that to an Sys admin when they need to shutdown the mail server for an emergency mainteness and everyone says you cannot do it because they are waiting for their mail with gay furry porn to come.

Or when the software you running asks for 32GB's of ram and the company you work for gives you a budget for 8GB's of ram and say "deal with it". After deployment they complain that the server you build is fucked up because it's slow as shit.
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>>45126961
This...

Fuck H-1B visa's. I've been denied jobs in the US because I'm a US citizen, and not an H-1B. Considered a law suit, may still do so. Have 1 year to decide.
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>>45127032
Yes it is.
Who are you?
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>>45126765
>>45126899
I'm well aware of what sysadmins and progammers are, but "DevOps" is new to me. Can you guys explain it to me?
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>>45127100


>Or when the software you running asks for 32GB's of ram and the company you work for gives you a budget for 8GB's of ram and say "deal with it".


of all the hypothetical scenarios you could've come up with, you decided on perhaps the stupidest
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>>45127100


>the server you build


how stressful, do they made you unpack everything yourself as well?
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>tfw I'm starting my first job tomorrow
>as an IT technician
>starting from $2000 monthly

Top kek
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>>45127095


this so much, currently a SE intern at EPICOR, fucking shyt admins scratch their nuts all day while developers have to work while shitting
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>>45127159
I may exagerated on the maximum ram but sorry to disapoint you you will find these situation everyday and they will tell you every time it' because of the "costs"

>>45127180
Pretty much
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>>45127111
Johny Sierra, from highschool, did you do the biology homework, you were supposed to send it to me and its due to tomorrow!!! Mr page is going to get mad and my mom is not going to let me go to prom, stop shitposting and do it!!!
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>>45127136
It's in the name, you fill the bridge between Developer and Operations. The point of this position is to not fuck up deploying shit because you actually know your shit.
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>>45127180


top kek, people actually go to college to end up doing this shit
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>>45126547
Depends on how stupid are the people you work for, and how smart are you.
/thread
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>>45127100
Just download more RAM retard.
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there goes the saying:

you know what they do with software engineers after they turn 40?

they have the sys admins take shoot them in the woods
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>>45127208
relax dude all under control
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>>45127187
>24k annual starting
Should've went to college.

One Big Mac please.
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>>45127341

> Should've went to college.

Piss off... 24K/year with no student load debt isn't bad, and it gives practical experience.
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>>45126547

I make 60k as an intermediate sysadmin with 1 year position experience and 4 years freelance/contractor experience.

My co-workers make 75k-120k depending on position and our company underpays a bit. This is also in Canada so wages will be a bit higher in the states.

With 5+ years exp in the States, in areas like SF or NY I'd expect 100k to be on the low end of the scale for a senior position. 60-80k if you're new or under 5 years exp.

Just personal experience.
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>>45126765


>In this world you don't always get what you deserve but what you negotiate for. If you're into systems and are an introvert go to a few music festivals and get that out of your system -- real-world is cut-throat, be cut-throat in the workplace.

Holy shit 11/10 advice. This isn't wage-slave McDonalds where you get a set income based off experience, you have to work for that shit. Soft skills are as valuable to your career as technical skills.
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>>45127095

Fucking this. I have projects at work but most the time we're technical firemen. Chill out and keep shit maintained and keep on top of everything and you'll be fine. It's all micro-management and disaster planning.

The hardcore stuff is building out new buildings and datacenters. Gotta love 14 hour days and sleeping in the office.

Also sysadminins are a 24/7 position. 2am and the storage cluster isn't serving out SMB sessions? Get the fuck to work buddy; you can sleep when you're done at 9am.

Also you're facilities. Fix the fucking coffee maker already.
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>>45127341
>being a slave to the corporate Jew simply so you can attain a piece of paper
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>>45126547
NEVER ASK ON /g/. NEVER ASK THE NATS!
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>>45127475

>Soft skills are as valuable to your career as technical skills.

this

that being said, if you actually give a shit about your job and try to be courteous to others that will usually suffice. In my experience you really don't have to be social, just easy to work with. Being able to work a bit of overtime to make sure everything runs smoothly - and letting everyone know that you did - is important as well
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>>45127197
but it's your job to make the system work within the needs and constraints of your environment.

i'm a sysadmin too, and i have virtually 0 budget. it can be frustrating, but i knew what i was getting myself into when i started. it's all about finding creative solutions.
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>>45127377
IDK how it's in america, but here in Switzerland, with 24K/year, you can't even pay rent, let alone food.

I started with 80K and It's barely enough.
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I'll share mine
Sys Admin, Bachelor in CS, 2 year experience
€30K
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>>45128606
Keep in mind cost of living rates differ drastically between the two countries.

Of course every idiot says the same "hurr minimum wage in X country is Y, why aren't we like that?"
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>>45128621
if anyone is wondering, I do want to die.
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>>45128621
Where are you from?
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>>45128680
Belgium.
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>>45128685
Shit sucks.
Is 30k the average pay in belgium for the kind of work you do?
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>>45128711
for starting people yeah, the economical crisis in 2008 has jewed new people out of decent pay
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