early 00s. everybody was on IRC or MSN when you wanted to chat in the evenings, you could sign off and nobody would fucking bother you. phone calls had meaning (call a girl, she knew you went to some effort), now proportionally I've had more phone calls telling me relatives have died in the last 6 months than anything else. didn't feel compelled to carry around this super spying device in my pocket all day. the scene was actually something awesome and mysterious rather than a bunch of russians distributing malware. any earlier and you're into shit tier dialup time, and nobody enjoyed that.
>>44804249 >What was your favorite Internet time period? The future >How is it compared to now? Awesome. I'm currently downloading (yes downloading) a youtube vid at 300Kb/s because my 2Mb/s connection is apparently too shitty to play it off the browser.
mid 90s- early 2000s was the best. internet is just dead now. back then it was an age of discovery and creation. it was just you and your bros making cool shit, discovering new shit, kind of like a bunch of sailors exploring the uncharted world on a new ship. the new internet is kinda like living in a modern city. all the fags are here now, all the women are here now, all the jews and corporations are here now, everyones trying to screw each other, theres nothing new to create or to discover, attention whores everywhere. its degenerate, its selfish, and its a waste of time.
i feel bad for anyone who did not get to experience the internet back then. it was truly a new age of exploration and discovery, albeit a short one, that only happens at rare points throughout history.
>>44804877 Do you think we were just younger then? I still get those same kind of feels today, and there was never any shortage of retards or advertising.
I do miss how "punk rock" everything used to be though, shitty banners, bad cartoons, even the professional sites had that lo-fi "I could do that" feeling. That's probably just nostalgia.
Although, and this might be related to the age thing, it feels to me like the internet has gotten way more serious lately, there are fewer pranks and stuff and they'll never be another Chris-Chan. I miss places like TOTSE most of all, you know the pre-channer net shitheads.
>>44804326 Social media ruined communication for me. It used to be enjoyable to talk to others over instant messaging without having ads shoved in my face. It's not like you can make a profile and then use it as a messenger either because you need to connect to people you know in order for that to be a fruitful endeavor. You'll have to get profile information up so you can be identified as opposed to just saying, "Here's my screen name. Add me to your Buddy list." It's all or nothing with these networks now.
>>44804442 I agree. Until 2006-2007 was the best time. After normalfags joined in with their social media the Internet became a avery commercialized place. Pre-youtube, pre-facebook, pre-myspace. I hate it nowadays. I hate carrying my smartphone, I hate being always on. Can I escape it? No, not without losing pretty much all my social contacts. Why? Because people expect you to be always reachable today. As a teen I didn't have a mobile. It was great. People actually valued appointments and were on time. Yes, the Internet is a great thing but every good technology has a dark side to it. (Not toasters, toasters running linux are great.)
>>44805097 The thing is that the internet isn't "gated" anymore. If something like a new chris-chan happened today, you would have tons of writers in sites like gezebel and gawker causing a shitstorm over it. As soon as something gains an audience, a subreddit for it gets cerated and it gets their attention. While something like a new chris-chan never happening, is, thinking objectively, a good thing(Even if those who were there when it first happened will kind of miss that sort of stuff), I think the fact that the internet is so, um, "hiveminded" nowadays stifles creativity and innovation, no longer is it possible to build from the ground up a community for any projects or creations. I really could go on and on about this, but it comes down to twitter and reddit becoming hubs for fandoms and creators, the interconnectivity of those sites prevents the c reation or more unique or niche communities since they are so bombarded with advertising for big companies that smaller player have a way harder time getting attention. Honestly i kinda get people like SJWs and their supposedly polar opposites, guys like the creators of that game "Hatred". It seems like a shitstorm is the only way to gain any attention nowadays.
>I think the fact that the internet is so, um, "hiveminded" nowadays stifles creativity and innovation, no longer is it possible to build from the ground up a community for any projects or creations. I really could go on and on about this, but it comes down to twitter and reddit becoming hubs for fandoms and creators, the interconnectivity of those sites prevents the c reation or more unique or niche communities since they are so bombarded with advertising for big companies that smaller player have a way harder time getting attention.
this is wrong though
if you care about "making a community", you will always start from you and a small group of dedicated friends and build from there
plebbit/twitter exist for the mob, if your shit gets popular enough of course you will have le subreddits and the like but assuming what you're making is unique then people aren't going to go to reddit for it
>>44805658 Yep. Also, the advertising on those platforms. Seriously, I swear ads on the internet have communities way worse. i mean, there have always been ads, but they used to be banner and pop-ups. Nowadays companies have gotten smarter, they do stuff like "sponsored content" and hire community managers to guide discourse in social media. I remember the early "gamer" community, it was a much more creative place that the dumb, raging fanboys that we have today. Stuff like datamining, modding (specially without dedicated modding tools or even of n64 games and other crazy stuff) and fangames were very popular. Now we have hype wars and gamergate. Seriously, I might have rose colored glasses for many things, but that's one conccrete aspect of the internet that has objectively gone to shit.
>>44805662 It's the cycle of life man. You can't be nostalgic for stuff you never knew, and life changes and problems you never expected come up. it's hard for everyone not to feel nostalgic at some points of their lives.
>>44805766 I just don't understand nostalgia. It's a feeling I get from certain songs, but not something I experience often. I've spent my life waiting for tomorrow, and in a sense I still am. The type of technology we have now is stuff I dreamed about my whole life. I'm not about to plant myself in a rocking chair and blow smoke up your ass about how great AOL was.
>SA was funny >NG was a haven for OC >albino blacksheep was basically NG lite >YTMND >Flash animation everywhere and it was good (for videos not in your fucking website) >Flash games were fun >memes were good >everything was good
>>44805695 I would be old enough to remember them, but sega was never a thing in my country and by the time I felt confident enough in my english to participate in english language communities, it wasn't a thing anywhere.
>>44805848 It does very much still exist, but it was more prevalent back in the day. There were fewer people on the internet and big companies didn't provide their own content for it, there was undeniably more creativity among users. It's really the natural result of the internet going from a hobbyist medium to bigger than printed press. I'm not complaining about the current internet, it's really a way better place for learning and communicating nowadays, it's just that it has lost its "secret club" atmosphere, you know?
>>44805864 I also look forward to the future, really my childhood was kind of shitty, I had a screwed up family life that caused me problems everywhere, things are way better now. just like you sometimes feel nostalgia for certain songs, I feel nostalgia for certain websites and communities, which were really kind of a shelter from said shittiness. But really I think that we're in a kind of transitional phase ATM. With stuff like augmented reality, the fact that vast swathes of the world will gain internet connection in the coming years, i expect that we'll see stuff we couldn't have dreamed of 10 years ago.
>I would be old enough to remember them, but sega was never a thing in my country and by the time I felt confident enough in my english to participate in english language communities, it wasn't a thing anywhere.
in the US it was a thing and sega fanboys were the fucking worst, but the anal pain that occured when the dreamcast was killed will never be matched
seriously though, you're implying that you're not from a western country so shitposting is a fairly recent thing. Here in the US the internet has been shit since the n64 at least
>>44806378 My use of internet is pretty much entertainment based, probably nearly all traffic data wise. If you include porn as entertainment too anyway. Hard to exclude something like games from that traffic.
>>44806166 Are there still any places for non-commercial, indie JRPG style games? That's the stuff I was into when I was 14 or so, then my parents punished me without internet for two years and when I came back most of the forums I used to visit were dead or dying and social media was already on the rise.
>>44806378 Porbably when I mentioned in >>44805582 the early "gamer" community as an example of something that I felt was better in earlier days of the internet. Really gaming has been of the most talked about things in the internet since its inception, it's a good example for talking about OP's topic.
>>44804249 My favorite internet time period is right now: >multi-MBps mobile internet >cheap cloud computing >rich web apps >stream HD like it's nothing >three second load times are considered outrageous
Mid-to-late 90s were rose colored and fun, but I would never want to go back to dialup, 5 MB email quotas, and gamez through lycos ftp search.
late 90s-2005 were my favorite years. Played so many great online games like Diablo 1, Starcraft BW, Diablo 2, WC3. Unfortunately never got into UO but Everquest 1 on Rallos Zek was the shit (runescape was immensely shitty compared to EQ1). Then vanilla WoW came out in 2004 which was largely the best time period of that game. After that a lot of online games started to go downhill IMO. I barely play any games at all anymore, though that is probably also a side effect of getting older.
Also, the internet was a lot better when it was mostly just nerds. I miss the days when attention whores were endlessly mocked instead of gathering mass followers on twitter/tumblr and media attention, and before SJWs existed. Oh well.
>That feel when you have a CRT monitor and you run a stripped down Xubuntu LTS 10.04.1 with old-ass themes along the lines of the Matrix
It feels great. X-Chat, Pidgin, Audacious, Totem (dl movies and watch them there), eMule, bit-Torrent, it's just fucking awesome. Everything is the font Monospace, it's all hacker'd out, feels like 1998. On it, I just don't go to social sites and block a few things. Makes me feel old school.
But I also have Ubuntu 14.04.1 because I like productivity (thinking of switching).
>>44813740 I remember I wanted to make a web page when I was 14. All I knew was some HTML, which I had learned from looking at page source.
I played around with web design, constantly changed the layout, but never really got a website going. I didn't get to start learning programming (in this case, some C++) until later that year. Everything went wrong (started the class a few weeks into the year, was too stressed out about legal problems I was facing (something not unlike probation, but the issue was truancy (and fights when I went to school) because in response to bullying (well, I won all my physical fights, but the rest made me lose anyways..) and most teachers enabling it, I had just stopped going to school) to do the homework, had to quit the class, was going to take it next year, but class scheduling cunt made sure that didn't happen -- despite all this and getting an F for the semester, I got a C (a 70) on the test I took -- I probably would have passed that class if not for the fact my life was practically a fucking warzone), but the teacher I had for that class was awesome. My experience of taking that class for a while in 9th grade was worthwhile, because I found out that something I thought would be hard (because everyone I knew in real life before then always told me 'omg it's hard u hav 2 b super smart to do it!') wasn't really that hard, at least for me. As part of everything that was going wrong outside of CS1, I had to drop out of high school to get away from the fact that the people screwing up my life were truly complete sociopaths, to an absolutely creepy level. (I was in a class called the 'alternative program', which was a class for delinquents, where they went full Nazi on the students, being super controlling towards their behavior. Getting off probation (called a CHINS) before it limited my legal rights later was a bitch. I had to get out of there before they filed it again because they were acting yet more stupid.)
I think the 2006-2010 was the haiday of the Internet and we are witnessing the decline. Everywere are these bundled sites, everyting via Google acount, Facebook spying on everyone, every update makes Youtube shitier, no more anonimous commenting (that Facebook shit again), less share and torrent sites, every site is changing it's interface to this ballless soft colour big rounded buttons Ippad friendly baby level design.
>>44814232 The good thing about that time was technological: dialup became obsolete, bandwidth is good
>Everywere are these bundled sites, everyting via Google acount, Facebook spying on everyone, every update makes Youtube shitier, no more anonimous commenting (that Facebook shit again), less share and torrent sites, every site is changing it's interface to this ballless soft colour big rounded buttons Ippad friendly baby level design.
That's how I saw all that web 2.0 stuff while it was being created. I thought that by not making a facebook I could leave my real life out of the internet, and my internet life out of my real life. NSA insists on blurring the line, though. I feel like everything I did may have been in vain.
>>44814332 I have only ever been a casual at RPing, but when I did it with my old friends when I was a teenager, I had fun. I never encountered that on AOL, though.
Just stupid bullshit I ended up encountering because ':DDD I WANT 2 GO TO THE SWEARWORD NAMED CHATROOMS BECAUSE FUG THE ADULTS TRYING TO STOP ME FROM BAD WORDS!!!'. I was on AOL when I was 10 years old.
>>44814396 The fact you could roll dice in aol chat rooms made serious RPing so good. We do whole DnD style games in an aol chat room. I guess that stuff is still around someplace but the golden era for me was them hot aol chat rooms
>>44804877 >theres nothing new to create or to discover Agree to all but this. I think we should develop i2p and p2p harder now that speeds are stopping being an issue. All you need to do is leave the comfort of the web.
perfect balance between accessibility/speed and being able to find obscure shit, back when google actually functioned as a search engine, social media was pretty small and forums werent full of fuckwits
>tfw born in 94 >grow up feeling like 'le wrong time period' memechild >spend childhood getting into golden age of gaming >spend teen years torrenting 60s country music and early punk music and old shit in general >become attached to the idea of being 'mentally older' >spend all of time watching documentaries reading wikipedia pages about years and events which happened long before birth >realize now that i have no friends, as i spent so much time learning about past shit i cant relate to people my age at all i cant win
Being 19 and being in a poor family I missed quite a lot of shit. My family had DSL dial up until I think 2007 for some god awful reason. Rarely had any experience with older gaming consoles other than at friend's house. Probably the first big console I probably had was the Gamecube. All in all I never have gotten into any online communities and was too retarded to do so. At least most of you got to experience it unlike my faggot ass.
I started accessing the internet on 1994, I remember the drama caused by CoS on alt.religion.scientology on Usenet back then, one of the best dramas ever. Apart of that I used to chat on IRC (efnet), visit BBSs and a few years later: geocities with Netscape.
On the final 1998-2004 they started appearing really good videogames: Counter Strike, Half Life, Unreal Tournament, BF1942... Back then, games were highly moddable and customizable, you could spent years with a game. At the moment games are just commercial garbage thats its unmodifiable (if you modify them you´ll probably get banned). Every year they ship a new version so gaymers can buy it and continue playing. Before 2006-2008, was the golden era of gaming (of course there are some great games now, I am not saying that now all games are shit).
Since 2006 they started appearing all these modern social networks, which were very small, but in a couple of years internet has just become: social networks + shops. Many forums and sites have died, OC appears less frequently on the net now, since social networks are whatever except OC producers.
Social networks and business are what have killed internet. The closest thing to the old internet is TOR network, Freenet and those, but since they give freedom, gvts and agencies are constantly attacking them.
Kinda relevant, I was looking through a nostalgia thread on /b/ a while back when I ran across a few TV shows from when I was a kid (2000-2006ish), I was curious and started looking up lists of shows from back then, I stumbled across a few that I'd completely forgotten about but are interesting retrospectively. What caught me to some extent was the theme of cyberspace, once the internet had grown out of the BBS days, once home computers started getting 3D graphics accelerators, and everyone's imaginations went wild, being somewhat self-delusional as to how powerful there devices where, tricking themselves into thinking that walking around a chatroom in a 3D avatar somehow made the experience better than what we, 10 years later, are doing now.
I'm going on too long, but does anyone else remember this shit? People using transparent laptops covered in stickers to walk around in chatrooms while listening to the hardest of hard German shit, not trance, not anything good, just crap that set the mood, while also wearing a trenchcoat in real life? I think the perfect embodiment of this is a show I found, Noah and Saskia. It may be a thinly veiled early attempt at teaching kids online safety and some other things, but it just seems so perfectly 2004. Dare I not watch so much as a clip on youtube for risk of dying of cringe. Fucking look at this shit, the site's still up. http://www.abc.net.au/rollercoaster/noahandsaskia/ Some things need realplayer though...
Probably the turn of the millenium and the few years after until Invisible War came out.
No SJWs, no fucking broads, PC gaming golden age, IRC, usenet, dreamcast piracy, insomnia LANs weren't so huge yet, Direct Connect and the thrill of discovering amazing animu series, AMD was pwning, unlimited internet meant unlimited, no traffic shaping/packet sniffing/caps.
'02-'04 or so. Back when Internet still was pretty much the wild west.
When all the old technologies (IRC, games, etc.) were already established and new forums (image boards etc.) were being born, but the cancer of social media or widespread internet usage had not yet taken the world completely so most of the people you met online were not complete fuckwads.
Early 2000s. Right after everyone started moving from AOL to cable internet. It was a brave new world where you could download RPG Maker in less than a minute and filesharing was just starting to be a thing thanks to Napster and later Kazaa.
Oh and Asheron's Call. Fucking revolutionary shit at the time.
if you're into videogames learn something like unity or source mapping and use their forums. Most of the time it's filled with kids but it's a solid step up from the usual and some interesting things are occasionally posted
>>44823100 yeah, 4chan hasn't changed all that much, besides more extreme content moving to other boards, but really it just means less shitposting. Though i kinda miss random raids like pool's closed and the gaia ones.
>>44823808 That's why I said "kinda". I wouldn't really find them funny nowadays, I think, they've lost the novelty factor and I'm not 14 anymore. Nevertheless I think they were far less insidious and politically motivated, /pol/'s tactics are a copypaste from stromfront's, and they are the only ones that still think raiding accomplishes anything.
>>44824022 The wild west analogy is pretty apt. It was uncharted territory, the people who dared to adventure there were looked upon as both madmen and adventurers, but eventually more and more people moved in, civilization and infrastructure sprung up. It became a hell lot more convenient, but the natives and original explorers were annihilated, the few survivors can tell each other "Oh no, man, X is place is still like the old days" but said place is a small reservation or redneck village that has been polluted by the outside world and is nevertheless shunned by it.
Okay that was bit too dramatic, but I miss people thinking I was a wizard because I could install windows and pirate office for them.
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