>mfw people care about privacy again
>mfw people are skeptical about the cloud and Apple
>mfw I have not heard "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear." since the Fappening started
Thank you, based hacker.
Regardless of what brought them to care about privacy, this brought them to care about privacy. That's what's important.
Every person in the world has literally got something to hide unless they have a mental condition that causes them to have absolutely not shame.
>this brought them to care about famous women being harrased by some mysoginist fuck in their minds.
We'll see how it turns out.
From what I've seen, it raised privacy concerns in the Apple platform the celebs were running. Why? Because they're scared the same might happen to them.
>Every person in the world has literally got something to hide unless they have a mental condition that causes them to have absolutely not shame.
Having clothing and passwords on bank accounts is in no way the same and shouldn't encourage anyone to do something as trivial as not using Microsoft products or blocking targeted advertisement services.
On leaked images, they have specifically depicted themselves in a manner that would have reduced their reputation if it was seen in public eyes. If you think that every person has an equivalent of such files held on their storage space then you are obviously wrong. Furthermore, even if they do, they mostly are concerned about actual people seeing such files and nothing else, not some trivial shit like local shared objects giving your browsing history to Adobe for non-personal research purposes.
I don't get what your point is. You do know I'm referring to more things than just not using Microsoft products and blocking targetted advertisements, right?
Also, why shouldn't it encourage people to not use Microsoft products?
McKayla Maroney is claiming she was underage in the pics/videos.
Of course, she also claimed the they were fake. It could all be a lie.
Your kind of posts usually are told when people are either not concerned or supportive of any variation of data gathering, be it global surveillance, targeted advertisement or shit like Microsoft storing your Skype messages.
In this case, the sensitive information that should have remained hidden from public view was seen by actual people - and not only one, but millions, that's why "nothing to hide - nothing to fear" argument applies here equally.
The point is that mass surveillance is not just a bunch of robots gathering information from you and running statistical analysis to better target ads to you; whatever nude photo they had on Apple cloud servers was probably already seen by Apple employees way before the leaks (and might've been leaked by Apple employees as well, who knows) and Google and the NSA have a history of looking at private pictures of people.
Don't pretend that this doesn't exist
Who would upload their butt on cloud. How stupid can you be to do that..
So, yeah, I would never upload something in the cloud that I would care about if it gets lost or hacked. Most of the stuff I have in cloud are backups of old docs, SFW pics and some programs.
So, the celebs had it coming, big time. I'm actually glad this happened. The nerve on them to upload naked pics in the cloud and get away with it.
people arent, people werent constantly monitoring the icloud either.
this was a spear fishing campaign that lasted months and worked, your pictures are probably 'safe' because dropbox and drive are expected to have security on their end, but if you have a weak password and lots of social media websites holding your data out to the public, someone can get at it.
but no one cares about you or me, they want pictures from celebs because that is how you make money.
if these celebrities had a fucking 14 digit secure password, they would probably still be just fine. but we still dont know exactly how the leakage happened, and whatever apple tells you at their stupid iphone conference (if anything) wont be nearly enough to know.
That's not how it works you fucking retard. Oh no, the NSA has my social security number!
You need to use your brain and if you cannot see why a stupid question like that is not valid here or in any 'privacy' argument.
That is exactly what I was telling.
If you have shit to hide - be it your naked body or records of illegal information - then you should be concerned about surveillance. If you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to fear.
Monetary security is not privacy.
The government already knows that shit as well. And no, no one has gotten their identity or bank information used by a government employee.
Again, come back with something that makes sense, because you are just parroting what other tools on /g/ say in every fucking thread.
honestly, tumblr and other sjw like sites have been the only places I've heard all three of those. that, and the cracker (which is the correct term to use rather than hacker) got condemned for "violating" womens privacy, which honestly is worst than murder to them.
well, if they have your social security card, they can eventualy access to some data about you.
>muh which data ? I don't care ! nothing to hide xD
well, if you're stupid... we can't do anything for you.
>no one has gotten their identity or bank information used by a government employee.
people have gotten their identity stolen before
might have very easily been by a government employee, he just didn't get caught.
Also did you not see this?
NO! YOU IDIOTS! it should be like "thank mr skeltal" it should begin with "thank" and have retarded, 12 year old memetic grammar mistakes and typos after that
what aboutthank mr hacker
Everyone has seen that. How many of those pictures left the building?
And no one is selling your personal information from the NSA, grow a brain. Why the fuck even bother saying 'people have gotten their identity stolen before'... no fucking shit
>That is exactly what I was telling.
Your posts were really vague.
>If you have shit to hide - be it your naked body or records of illegal information - then you should be concerned about surveillance
Shit to hide is more than naked body or illegal activities.
Unpopular opinions, people you shit on in a private conversation, bank info (which you already mentioned), personal stuff you dont want people to know for whatever reason, incriminating stuff that's not necessarily illegal, things that'd ruin your reputation, the possibilities are endless. Everybody's got something to hide.
I can't believe this was more effective than then Snowden leaks and all the talks about how important privacy is.
But I'll take it. For once, the plebs and their undying love their celebbidys was useful to humanity.
On the other hand, if celebrities weren't in the media all the time, we'd hear about important stuff more.
>How many of those pictures left the building?
>. Why the fuck even bother saying 'people have gotten their identity stolen before'
Did you get past first grade? How are you so bad at reading comprehension?
>people have gotten their identity stolen before. might have very easily been by a government employee, he just didn't get caught.
>NSA revealed to snoop on literally everyone using web services
>"I have nothing to hide anyway"
>A couple of stupid hos have their nudes leaked
>ERMGERHD THIS IS PRIVACY VIOLATION
fuck this fucking world
I never said I had nothing to hide, I jumped in to call you out on your dumb ass statement.
There is a difference between some turbonerd seeing information they will never use, and posting someone onto a public fucking channel like 4chan.
Learn the fucking difference. I could e-mail you my credit card, but then nothing would happen because you wouldn't be dumb enough to get caught since I would know exactly where the number went.
>Unpopular opinions, people you shit on in a private conversation, bank info (which you already mentioned), personal stuff you dont want people to know for whatever reason, incriminating stuff that's not necessarily illegal, things that'd ruin your reputation, the possibilities are endless.
That all counts as things you would like to hide personally, but you don't come to interpersonal relations, but whoever actually views your data is not concerned about that. For example, let's say that I have bought a phallus - I would be damn embarrassed if my friends knew that, but nobody would give two shits if NSA sysadmin from two continents away would have seen that, for as he doesn't personally knows here. Another example - I might hold unpopular opinions, but I only am concerned about NSA knowing that fact if my unpopular opinion qualifies as dissentive. SO, situations where you have shit to hide vary depending on the context of situation and information.
>Transfering unencrypted private information
>uploading it to dropbox and gdrive
>Monetary security is achieved by keeping your information private.
That is if you apply this situation to the extreme extend obviously not implied in "nothing to hide" statement. Term |privacy" usually implies a less broader information.
so, what is the difference between someone intercepting a credit card number, or maybe guessing a password and viewing it, or typing it on 4chan because some kid asked for it?
so if i put a txt file with my bank info onto dropbox, someone working for that company could stumble upon it and use it because i have it to them?
grow a brain
The only thing I really care about resulting from all of this is that Apple, as well as other companies, actually start putting serious money and support into usable security research.
Security questions for passwords are DUMB and need to DIE.
>ut nobody would give two shits if NSA sysadmin from two continents away would have seen that,
You guys have no fucking imagination. I have to draw a specific picture with real life examples for you to understand. I hate throwing the word autism, but damn.
Remember when Obama was elected?
Remember the scandal that was brought up when it was revealed he smoked weed in college?
Just an innocent little fact about something he did a long time ago. A lot of people still flipped their shit about it
Now imagine you're suddenly in the public spotlight for some reason. Some new hotshot job you got.
That shit could ruin you. And I'm not talking about just the fact that you smoked weed. The information the NSA has on everyone could be much, much MUCH worse. And you having a public position is just an example.
How bout you making a politician upset for something you said on Twitter which gathered a lot of followers?
How bout someone gets envious of you for X reason?
Again, the possibilities are endless and I can't draw you a picture if you're not willing to imagine it yourself.
The NSA might be selling the information in a convert way to powerful people and that's how they might be getting your information
You just DONT want private information to be scattered around. You just don't.
>That's not me you dingus
That's an easy way to walk out of an argument you're losing
>There is a difference between some turbonerd seeing information they will never use
No one is skeptical about Apple. iCloud, maybe but no one is scared that someone will get their photos from their photo library on their iPhone, Mac, iPod or MacBook.
Also, it's been based around in the news a lot today and yesterday that Apple is putting mele security on iCloud.
iCloud wasn't even hacked, the people didn't have 2-step verification up which would have prevented all of this from happening but they only had security questions which anyone can google and find the questions for
>>mfw people are skeptical about the cloud and Apple
I haven't seen it. Seems everyone is buying Apple's explanation the accounts were hacked, not the cloud. Provided you use common sense, you should be just fine.
If you don't have iCloud set up then it won't automatically send photos there.
If you set up an iCloud account then that's one of the reasons.
Anyone who says they have an iCloud account but didn't know that photos will be sent there is a liar.
>That is if you apply this situation to the extreme extend
Privacy and security often intertwine because one secures the other. This not an extreme extend by any chance since I gave you an example that's common as common can be.
> obviously not implied in "nothing to hide" statement
But it is. People should realize privacy and monetary security are tightly tied together. That's just one of the many issues.
> Term |privacy" usually implies a less broader information.
Yeah, for you. The term actually implies much more if we're talking about the things people do on their computers.
The reason iCloud exist in the first place is so that photos, contacts, music, etc. are sent into the cloud and dropped onto your other devices.
Unless someone made an iCloud account not knowing any thing about it they are liars.
Apple already said it wasn't their fault. Everytime a celeb's phone gets hacked and nude photos are leaks, it's always an iPhone.
People will forget about this after the iPhone 6 is released.
Stallman was right.
you completely missed the point I was trying to make. I'm saying there SHOULD be an NSA privacy shitstorm not a SJW/rape/violation shitstorm for the celebs
he's right, its more about the SJWs than privacy now
>there will never be a love story between RMS and JLaw
Don't you see how horrible this is?!
>this, I don't want people to know that I like traps.
Perhaps it would also be good to work on removing the stigma that society holds towards being attracted to transgender women?
I just feel so horrible. I feel so horrible, I... I don't know how to get myself back into thinking about anything except how horrible this is.
they're not going to replace TCP/IP so I'm pretty sure whether people do or don't care about personal privacy for digital data there's not going to be any major new breakthroughs in stop-gap measures for fifty year old protocols
>dress dog up as woman
>"No, your honor. It wasn't bestiality. The dog was dressed as an human female!"
Perhaps it would be useful to link to an article about RMS' warnings about cloud computing?
I also think that since the picture has a cloud up there, you could perhaps use something along the lines of:
>This is what happens when you trust the cloud.
>Should you really trust the cloud?
>You don't want to be standing outside near a storm cloud because you know it's dangerous, is cloud computing any different?
> How many of those pictures left the building?
First, we have no way of knowing, and second, that's not the point.
The point is that they have the power to gather all of those nudes and whatever else and share them, and even if that is only inside their building that's still not something that should be happening
We could make a poster with a list of celebrities hacked:
>Who does that server really serve?
>Not Jennifer Lawrence.
>Not Mary Elizabeth Winstead.
>Not Kate Upton.
>Not Mckayla Maroney.
>Not Kirsten Dunst.
>Not (so on and so on)...
>If that server doesn't serve them, should you expect it to serve you?
Stallman is a faggot. If something is owned and trademarked, then that's it's fucking name. He's like those hippie faggots who think that you and I don't have names because we 'are all human'. He's a hippie faggot for shitty 'open-source' IT.
If you were some public figure they could black mail you for whatever reason.
I don't like people browsing my shit, it feels like someone watches me pee. Does the "you got nothing to hide" mean i can go inside your home and watch you sleep, read your diary, watch you argue with your sibilings?
What if i had an idea of a device that could sell for millions and i was stupid enough to upload it to a could?
There's no such thing as nothing to hide.
Have you ever felt uncomfortable when a friend opens your desk or fridge, even though theres nothing to hide?
It's called severely fucked up double standards. This place is notorious for cp and all kinds of other questionable shit. Nothing happens. But as soon as some celebrities get nudes leaked all hell breaks loose.
Talk about fucked up priorities. The world is morally bankrupt.
A lot of FOSS Twitter/Identica/pump.io clients I see use is.gd, which claims to be an "ethical URL shortener" with a page stating their ethical code. I presume this is about as close as it gets to being FSF friendly.
>he doesn't know that photostream is a setting you can turn off in iCloud.
All of this happening shit is only because women and old people are too stupid to learn anything. It's the victims' faults and apple's fault for not implementing anti-brute force mechanisms.
>dress up cute jailbait in sleazy hooker uniform
>"Your honor, it's not statutory rape. She was dressed as an adult!"
13 year olds are far close to legal women than men are to women.
How do we even know it came from the icloud?
Tracking down that many different celeb email addresses to attack icloud with would be very hard for one guy to pull off.
My guess these pics are from many different people attacking many different services over a few years. The pics where then traded around until the "leaker" collected them all and then dumped them.
Tim Cook himself said so.
McKayla's lewd little sister :3
yeah, and he's a macfag too.
I'm not homophobic, but I just want to point out the fact that he is gay too. Stephen Fry is a really nice person. GNU is very fortunate to have him on its side
>McKayla Maroney is claiming she was underage in the pics/videos
Doesn't this make her guilty of the production and possession of child pornography in the USA?
Will she go to jail for this?
Hey remember when Trump's leaked private phone conversations about his sexual relationships were leaked and they broadcast it on major news networks, but that was okay just because he was a jackass?
But now the "hacker" and anyone "spreading" these leaked photos are sinister, diseased, unnatural cyber-terrorists.
Talk about cognitive dissonance.
You posit that physical appearance is more private than thoughts, but while we're all obligated to make a regular showing of some part of our bodies to others in the course of daily life, our thoughts are our own and each other's as we choose them to be.
Except when someone taps your phone line.
I also want to point out that thoughts are very unique, diverse, and personal, whereas your physical appearance is largely a result of your genes, and in the big picture, everyone looks about the same. Not so with thoughts.
But oh no, everyone get up in arms about a nipple that looks like every other nipple, because it's attached to some poor victimized movie star or other who a few months ago did an overtly erotic photoshoot with high res lenses, nude for all practical purposes, but with some half-bra or other covering the nipples and a little strip of cloth over her minge.
Fucking hell, people, have some perspective.
rest assured, they will forget about it as soon as it media get bored with it.
some vague promises about securing the cloud storage and marketing bullshit and things will go back to way they were.
too many dumb people share their nudes online nowadays - there is money in that.
>Perhaps it would also be good to work on removing the stigma that society holds towards being attracted to transgender women?
Perhaps it would also be good to work on removing the stigma that society holds towards any personal opinion as long as it doesn't violate or hurt anybody.
what a stupid question she's famous
a normal person would be charge with production and put on a sexual offenders registry for the rest of their life but you know that wont happen
>leak some scarlet johanson photos
>get 10 years in jail
WHAT THE HELL AMERICA
You know what couldve made the world burn to the ground?
The hacker shouldve pretended he was from apple and said he had access to every file in the "cloud"
It couldve been glorious, /g/. No one would believe anything apple would say since everyone would believe it is damage control on their part
>no one cares about the nsa
You know why they dont care? Because of social engineering.
These NSA "leaks" have been reported for over a year now, bit by bit, to condition people into living in a total surveillance state.
Its pretty fucking simple.