>Your whole computer only had 1 terabyte hard drive?!?
>But daddy that's the size of one app!
Nah, it's gonna be more like
>what do you mean there was no cloud?
>you mean you had to store all your data on your computer?!
>what if it broke?
>what if it got stolen?
Didn't think of it that way.
I already have a kid and I'm not even straight. So if a gayfag couple on /g/ can do it, I don't think it'd be hard for a straight /g/entooman to do it. They wouldn't have to deal with the hassle that is artificial insemination and being worried 24/7 that the cumdumpster could run away with your baby at any time.
Then you have serious issues, it's just short for Application which has always been synonymous with Program.
Do you cringe at people saying "Car" rather than "Horseless Carriage"?
I'm sure that at some point in time, people argued that apps would never be one gigabyte in size. Technology evolves, as we move beyond traditional HDDs, we will find ourselves using more storage, with more applications that require more power, more memory, more graphics processing, and more storage space.
Many, if not most, Android phones and tablets allow you to install whatever you want on it, though it's certainly not as "simple" as going through an app store. So they qualify as "general purpose" computers using your definition.
Games have been a major driving factor, with each new release further pushing the limits of what technology can do.
Although, at the rate we're going I see cloud computing becoming more of the norm. Essentially rendering most PCs as we know them now obsolete. Especially as Google fiber starts to wrestle control from the shit-tier companies like Comcast and Time Warner.
>I like X so real men like X
>I dislike Y so <Person who is in someway less than a real man> like Y
Another thing people like to do is try to claim their opinions why something is the best are facts by saying "objectively" better.
Ignorant idiots who enjoy being led around like sheep let marketers tell them what words to use.
It's the opposite mindset. "apps" are the fat chicks demanding people change their verbiage to not make them feel bad, programs are traditional beauty standards that don't need anything like that..
The whole of the building I work in, a sister company of a large globally operated mega company, is moving their entire (locally) server based OS to the cloud. It's the dumbest shit I have heard in a long time, everything I enter into our system has to go through the cloud when we move from XP.
it's far easier to let others do the thinking for you because it's their job to make your life easier. Anything you have to give up to have a little less stress in your life is worth it. Besides, if you're not paying for it, they have to make money somehow, so it should be okay for them to sell your personal info to make some income. it's not like they have anything to hide :^)
They aren't bribing people to use the word "app", it's just a word that is slightly snappier. Besides if you don't like using words imposed on you by "the system" why are you speaking a human language you were taught rather than coming up with your own?
Cloud computing offers the ability to run most normal user programs remotely, leaving a shell of a computer at home. Thereby reducing purchasing costs. As Internet speeds pick up, we can start outsourcing most daily functions to a remote server. Think Chromebooks on a larger scale.
A previous company I worked for was transitioning all of their computers on the first floor to just a shell with basic hardware components. The OS was installed remotely on their servers, alongside all the necessary programs the employees had to run. This method of computing reduces the hardware cost, maintenance cost, downtime, and allows the IT department to thoroughly manage what the employees are doing.
>WHAT?! YOU SHOULD CONFORM TO MY STANDARD EVEN THOUGH YOURS IS THE ONE THAT IS SOLIDIFIED AND THOROUGLY USED BUT I JUST LIKE HOW THE APPLE STORE PROGRAMS SOUND LIKE!
Your distortion of logic is amazing.
So we've basically travelled 30-40 years back in time, to when thin clients and remote computing was the norm because the cost of computing was so ridiculously high you had to split it evenly between the people that worked with it.
Only now we're doing it for different reasons.
Thin clients. I couldn't think of the name, but kind of yes. Cloud computing is going to be the future. There was an article or Ted Talk a year ago that mentioned how drones would most likely end up using the cloud to process commands, because it would be faster having access to a larger database of information that other drones have already committed rather than have a fleet of drones constantly having to repeat the same processing task.
>implying it won't be called "cloud" in the future
>implying it won't be called "cloud storage" in the future
>Your whole cloud only had 1 terabyte of cloud storage?
>But daddy, that's the size of one app!
Damnit, i forgot i had one in the oven. Must be scorched now. What am i gonna eat now?
sort of, but the reasons are still the same
the main driving force behind there current changes is that internet links are now just as fast and reliable as lan links were before, so we're seeing similar changes to the time when lan links became as fast/reliable is local/internal coms. Then you started to see distribution of data/processing thorough-out buildings and offices, now its global.
>the cumdumpster could run away with your baby at any time
I'll just find another one then. Let her raise my kid by herself. They're my genes I'm spreading after all.
Ever since that fucking "There's an app for that" phrase came into existence, I've fucking hated the word.
Honestly, it won't be. There are several other alternative methods to HDDs that can offer increased speed and storage capabilities. DNA will be in the future. There's a new scientific field, about five years old now that has seen some promising results in programming bacteria to perform certain functions.
Also, didn't HP just come out with a revolutionary new scalable form of storage a few months ago?
We can thank this asshole for this
Actually it's a new internet challenge thing where you literally light yourself on fire.
And the only people i've seen doing it so far is blacks. I believe that's how they are getting extinct.
Spent way too long trying to recall what I was thinking of. I was right, HP developed a memristor and plans to have the product on the shelves within a few years.
Nature.com is a great source to check for news by the way. There are a few articles about quantum computing, if anyone's into that shit.
Wouldn't one of the goals of an AI be to make their shit as small and lightweight as possible without sacrificing functionality
Sorry, but I just can't see any kind of utility being that huge unless it incorporates some kind of super-advanced gui
We're pretty much at the point where bringing the DPI of certain screens any higher is pointless, so unless we're talking either gigantic wall TVs or highly immersive VR/AR, resolution won't be high enough to bring the size up that high
Even so, we're eventually going to hit a ceiling where going higher doesn't do jack shit
Why are people so technologically retarded, yet stare at electronic devices all day long?
If you've ever seen the movie idiocracy, that is what the human race's future is destined to be. Everyone is going to be 'batin and eating butter from big tubs while staring at a tv/phone all day.
No silly, managing large size shit is something we humans can't do efficiently at all, but an AI is perfect for it.
Imagine unleashing an AI upon Linux to swift through all the code and seek/patch up all the vulnerabilities.
Yeah, sure, but that's not my point at all
An AI that advanced would be able to find the least work-intensive way to perform a certain task, as well as build a fuckhuge library and keep track of it perfectly, both of which would significantly cut down on size, assuming it's smart enough to only install the parts of the library each program actually uses
You could have a thousand different programs that all reference the exact same files, which means that all you need is the 5kb main in a binary
A thousand completely different programs taking up maybe 20gb between them, 5mb if you don't include dependencies
Well yeah, games are going to keep getting bigger, but still, once we hit that resolution threshold, the rate of increase will start slowing down and eventually grind to a halt once we start getting stuff that uses a full 1:1 star cluster or some shit
Motherfucker show some respect. He used to do good. Watching his intro to the PowerMac G3, was some good shit. People forget how horrendously shit computers used to be, he gave everyone a swift kick in the bumhole.
Yeah right, he thinks people are more retarded than even bill gates does with his one button mice computer.
It's like they're competing for the larger marketshare of technological retards.
And yet those who used it had so much fun.
Meanwhile I have used USB for fucking years. Daisy chaining USB? Yeah, it's called a fucking hub. Weren't they great?
They are now, and they started to then, but they used to make machines for non-retards as well.
Sadly those days are mostly over.
USB hasn't really changed much as far as transfer speeds go. 3.0 has a cap of 5 gb/s, whereas Thunderbolt 2 caps out at 20 gb/s data transfer speed alongside the ability to daisy chain devices.
Apple and Intel both worked together on Thunderbolt. I have to give credit where credit is due.
Personally, I prefer Ubuntu but the effort of trying to game on Linux is soooo overwhelming.
To be fair, there's always been a learning curve with computers. Only now it has been greatly reduced. The tools are still out there for passionate computer scientists, programmers, developers, etc. to utilize machines to their full potential.
Software don't progress the same way as videos and games do. There's literally nothing to be gained from extra lines of code. Unless your shitty, unmaintained "app" has half a century of zombie code left in it, in which case nobody should be using it anyways, they're going to stay more or less the same size.
I mean also, look at things like novena. It's a computer that isn't designed for everyone. The specs aren't amazing and it's not flashy but it's designed for a niche market of devs and enthusiasts. Computers used to be cool. Now their all homogenous. I mean yeah, you have different operating system, but I personally believe that the ibm-pc killed innovation and with stuff like arm and mips we're starting to move back into cool computer territory.
I'm not sure if you noticed this, but video game programs are software.
So are web browsers and office programs. Are you implying that these programs will never be updated with new code to support newer features?
I'm a huge fan of thunderbolt, wish it would take off faster/at all, but everyone's all "Huur yool neva beet you ess bee, appel stop trieing, it's not gonna habben" when they don't know a fucking thing about the bloody cable. I just got a 2014 macbook air for free, the fucking port's just sitting there, taunting me. I wanna go out and buy some 20 slot pcie dock, fill it with 8 port SAS cards and build a fucking 2 and a half petabyte macbook dock. Oh, and throw on a few graphics cards for good measure.
I was pissed when everyone dropped expresscard, but thunderbolt is a worthy replacement. Too fucking bad the only portables that use the dam things are macbooks.
>new code = more code
That's some shitty software you've got right there.
Video games are software but also a shitload of graphics and sounds. Are you telling me that devs are going to go to the same lengths with the average "app"?
Then there's the Raspberry Pi, which is absolutely amazing. It gives amateur users a cheap entry point to experiment and tinker, to build something from scratch that would never exist outside of their own mind.
Look at what Oracle(?) is doing with the future of the home. Creating a connected environment that is going to make our lives significantly easier. Although implementation will be tricky to avoid malicious hackers breaking in through the AC units firewall, and accessing critical data. Much like with what has already happened to larger corporations.
I'm not sure about portables, but Thunderbolt is primarily an Intel technology. So you should see some integration within the next year or so on Intel based computers that are using a Windows OS.
I hope that never happens. Even though an application is a program, no one should ever refer to the act of writing a program as apping.
That bothers me on on a personal level, just because I'm an avid reader and it doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
I know, but they're taking their dam time.
It's almost like they want the fucking protocol to fail.
Give that shit away cheap, gain market, then ramp up the prices on the chips. People want to keep using thunderbolt stuff, so if the windows OEM's don't pay they loose customers.
I'd call this jewish but fuck those fucking OEM's, jewing out on the most basic of shit. I really does sadden me that when I walked into a shop, the best they had to offer was a macbook. The fact that no-one even tries to beat this shit is just sad.
Even for $800, this would have been a good deal. I got it for free.
>What do you mean you could install an Operating system yourself
>But daddy, Microsoft wouldn't approve unauthorized software being run on their servers and streamed to your devices
>These illegals programs are only for pirates and people with bad intentions
> Once being able to insert physical media into a computer
> Computers once had internal storage
> Computers once let you install any software you wished
> Computers once let you compile and make your own software
> Computers once used to boot without send a 256 character registration key to a key server ensuring that this device was is authentic and then establishing a connect to your cloud based operating system
> Running a computer didn't require an email or internet
> Programs were once removable
> You could once upgrade your computer
> You once had the option of anonymity without being force to be connect to "Nearby" devices
> You refrigerator wasn't always connected to the internet.
The future is gonna suck
i guess you mean System Programs and Application programs
System Programs makes the hardware run , Applications are for specific tasks
an Example for System Programs are Device Drivers
as for the Applications you can say web browsers , word porcessros etc
tl;dr. You're all retards.
There are hundreds of tech companies owned in turn by a handful of umbrella companies which in turn support about six different large companies which in turn fund one or two lobby groups. Those one or two groups lobby congress and senators to make laws in their favor. In a sense if you have enough power you can make your own rules.
Man it's the future already. If comcast wasn't lobbying the gov't I wouldn't be surprised if we had an Obamanet, which is a national standard ISP you were forced to chose if you didn't buy cable. In fact that might still be possible
I was thinking about this earlier, but I'm at least 5% sure there are strict government regulations that create a stifling environment for any would be competitors.
Then Google Fiber comes along and suddenly Comcast, Time Warner, and Cox have faster internet connection speeds.
This government is incredibly corrupt, and voting Red or Blue only exacerbates the problem.
I'm worried about small ISP's now. Big names are increasing speed to kill of competition. They aren't doing this out of the kindness of their heart
I'm worried about radio and television existing in the future too.
Yeah but how long will they exist. I mean public radio and television. How long till we have to use the internet or our tv's use the internet and everything is logged. Radio and tv are free and anonymous
>tfw someone with the means could develop a completely free and almost entirely anonymous high-frequency internet broadcast like radio for anyone to connect to
>all we need are more powerful clientside transmitters
Mr Musk if you're there pls
>inadvertently calling modern technology garbage
I chuckled, but it probably wasn't intentional.
It's possible yes, but it will be niche and have few users other than criminals, basmenet neets, and richard stallman. The problem is the masses eat up what corporations spoon feed them. There will, and are altnets but what use are they if they get no traffic, and if they do get traffic they'll just turn into the main net.
You seem to be trolling but 1 bit per byte is going to revolutionize audio and video streaming since there will be no cross contamination of bits since every bit will have a 3 bit buffer between the next bit.
Game size has increased so radically in recent years due to massively high resolution textures, lots of sounds, and an increase in polygons compounding by ~25% yearly. It isn't just an insane amount of code. It's like adding more pictures and sounds to a powerpoint; the file size will increase dramatically, but the framework is still powerpoint.
It's spiritual successor is thunderbolt, kicks the skit out of the competition but isn't being adopted because reasons.
Firewire itself? It faded into nothingness, by 2006 it had almost completely vanished, thanks to usb.
>Microsoft Windows vs. OS/2 and NeXTSTEP
Software compatibility > gimmicky features and animations
>Intel 80286 vs Motorola 680xx
Software compatibility > nothing to run
>VHS vs Betamax
5 hours playtime per tape > 2 hours per tape
Stop being a hipster sticking with the least popular shit.
>system stability, full multi-user capability and a pure 32-bit object oriented API are gimmicks
>16 bits over 32 bits
>quantity over quality
Typical M$ consumer drone.
>system stability, full multi-user capability and a pure 32-bit object oriented API are gimmicks
If you actually used OS/2 and NeXT, you would know that they were anything but stable. Also they were fucking useless compared to PCs because they had to rebuilt their software library from scratch.
>16 bits over 32 bits
Pointless at that point of time. Do you also think the iPhone 5S is superior just because it's 64-bit?
>quantity over quality
I don't know, swapping tapes in the middle of some movie isn't better than watching an uninterrupted, also advancements in the VHS format over time resulted in better quality than Betamax.