The educational facility where I work has changed their minds from macbooks to thinkpad yogas.
Is there any reliability issue I should know about yogas compared to other lines in the modern renovo lineup?
I think they're sold because of a PD they went to and my X61T
Here you go, this one is from France so it shouldn't take long for it to arrive.
guys i have a t520i with a dual core cpu. I'd like to upgrade it to a quad core variant.
I've read that the quad-core cpu requires a larger heat-sink.
How do i go about finding the correct heat-sink for the quad-core cpu?
No, I'm saying at that's C2D MBP price in Germoney.
Do you need a Clunkpad? I'm sure you could get a decent Dell Precision or a HP Elitebook for half the price and 3 years newer
All high-end laptops have scissors besides, thanks to you chucklefucks, and chucklefucks at every other tech site Thinkpads became a brand name as "Macs for Autists" and are incredibly expensive compared to other business and workstation laptops
Sometimes I wonder how the chiclet shitstorm is going, or where all those things are going.
He really sold out to promote this abortion.
A little gem some posted in the comments elsewhere on the blog. Maybe this will be the future of the chinkpad keyboard.
I'm not sure who is worse Clunkshils or Macfags, at least Macfags brag about something you can't find in most laptops (1440p display) instead of their 300 euro GMA 950 laptops
>Grocery store laptop
You fucked up, should have gotten a eBay refurb
I work at a place were they take apart electronics people have thrown away. I was looking around at the grates holding some of the dissembled computer hardware and saw the screen of a x200, broken.
If I see a Thinkpad in a good state again I'll most likely take one home. We mostly have business grade hardware such as KVM switches, thin clients, switches.
bought a refurb x61, everything was good until 5 min in, fan starting to click and making noise like old air conditioner.
How can i solve this? Also i've always used linux on desktop but never on laptop, so how do i stop the heating and battery life issue.
Using debian with openbox btw.
Give it a slap in the area where the fan is. Probably just dislodged.
Slim T series, T400, T500, W500, older T series. The utlrabay battery is too skinny for the normal westmere T/W series onwards
I've just set up FreeBSD 11.0 Current on my T530 (i7 quadcore with optimus intel + nvidia nvs 4500m gfx and 8 gb ram). It work great but one problem. You see, the two finger scroll, I have not found out how to make it work!
Any helping available?
That's the sound of it dying, I've replaced quite a few of those. Thankfully they're cheap on ebay and easy to replace,
Open it up and give it a good cleaning and replace the paste so it'll toggle the fan less often to increase current lifespan as well as deal with your heat issues. If the fan dies it won't be able to boot as a safety precaution and you'll have to hit escape to ignore the prompt and prevent it from shutting down.
And remember to check out thinkwiki, lots of debian guides on there for that model.
Hello /g/entlemen, I made the mistake of buying a gayming loptop for ~$900 last year because I refused to listen to the cries and warnings of /g/. After selling it and saving up some extra dosh, I have about 1,300 dollars to spend on computers. I have about $700 set aside for a MicroATX build, and the rest for buying a thinkpad.
Now, here's my question to you;
I'm looking at two different ThinkPads, the x140e and the C720. The x140e caught my eye because:
-Built like a brick
However, I was also looking at the c720 because:
-holy fuck that keyboard
-ibm thinkpad i.e. not shitty
-people will look at me funny
-maybe i could put in an ssd or upgrade the cpu or something
Should I shell out $600 dollars for an x140e with an SSD for light work and gaming, or a couple hundred for a C720 for light work in emacs, and maybe some Dwarf Fortress or OpenXCOM?
>Should I shell out $600 dollars for a new laptop
These are your options.
>AMD hardware on a laptop
I had two AMD laptops, and they were shit. almost literally all they can do well is fry your balls.
>Dwarf Fortress or OpenXCOM
DF is heavy on CPU, so 720 probably won't be enough to run that smoothly (That sounds weird in my head actually)
Something like x201 would be better choise I think.
My first ThinkPad (X200) is out for delivery. I've been thinking of putting Debian on it, but I may go with Arch if I can figure out the install process. Any other X200 users here? Does the wireless work without any configuring when installing Arch or Gentoo?
You'll need to configure arch, thats the very nature of it. I would highly recommend using and sticking to Debian however. Arch is a fun learning OS, but for a daily driver you need a stable operating system and you really won't miss anything.
I used Crunchbang as a daily driver for my x61t for quite a while, but Stable-branch repos are very old, I couldn't play ADOM natively in #! because glibc is old (one day I even broke my install completely by trying to update it). Moving to Sid repos doesn't really solved the problem, so I decided to move to ArchBang and so far I like it. But Arch is Arch, quite a bit of tinkering required to get it to work the way you want.
I do admit, stable debian is quite old, but most people run testing. Testing is basically an ubuntu without the bloat and for day to day use is still stable. Sucks you ran into a problem like that though, #! is a great debian based distro.
>Seen teardown video
>entire case looks flimsy as shit
>apparently made of plastic
>also ULV CPU
So I DO recommend NOT to buy this shit. I'd rather get t420(s) than this.
Check for local listings before going on eBay. I got an x230t for only $350. i5-3320m, 300 GB HDD @ 7200 RPM, 8 gb 1600 Mhz RAM, and charger w/ stylus. Near perfect condition. From craiglist
Find a better deal. I dare you
But isn't the build quality/material a gripe most lenovo oldfags have with this entire generation? I saw a rant somewhere. And what would be a good price range for the t440s
the clickpad sucks for that too, just look at this shit.
if one is to
- watch videoz in max hd
- some codez
- need long battery life
would it be better to get an older cheap thinkpad from ebay, or get a chromebook?
linux would be installed so doesn't matter that it comes with chromeos.
chromebooks seem to win because they tout long battery life.
>See this in the morning
>x201t is finally coming.
Should I get an acer c720 chromebook and put a linux distro on it or try to find a used thinkpad? I'll be using it for general browsing as an edc, battery life and portability are a major plus
I'm guessing it means that it is BIOS locked to only use 4gb, but if you flash the BIOS with a new one then you can use 8gb.
Or it just means you can stick 2x4gb sticks in it, but it'll only have 4gb usable.
Look what I picked up for $40. Did I do good? Has all of the original accessories, including the trackpoint replacements.
ThinkPad t520 (4243-3ZG) i7-2620M 2,7 Ghz 4 GB RAM 500 GB HDD 1600x900 everything working
>329€ on ebay by a trader
yes or no
Is there a 1080p IPS ThinkPad that doesn't have a shitty ultranav?
499usd is the cheapest price that I can found for my first thinkpad x220
I don't know if it is worth for buying used Thinkpad on ebay and ask the seller fot International shipping
basically, thinkpad notebook is a rarely stuff on bidding site
(In Taiwan, yes)
You should get the x201 instead for the 16:10 screen
But whether it's worth ordering internationally depends on the shipping costs and any import charges
I'm Australian and bought my x200t from the US because it was much cheaper
I hope you didn't need something too portable...
I fucking did it! I finally ordered a t420 and now I will just have to wait. Can anyone recommend an os to put on it, I am thinking about tripplebooting win 7, crunchbang, and osx, what does /g/ think?
Thinkpad T430.. What priced would you pay? guide didn't have price for it. If I can get it for under 400 is that good?
>do not buy any post-2010 thinkpad
>OpenGL 2.1 limited GPU
>Downloading a bunch of userspace tools to work around the fan speed/heating problem
>Downloading a bunch of other crap unmaintained userspace tools
The only good thing is the keyboard
Rating: 4.8 windows experience index
processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3320M CPU @ 2.60GHz 2.60 GHz
Installed Memory (RAM): 4.00 GB (3.21 GB usable)
System type: 32-Bit Operating System
320 GB HDD - Intel HD 4000 Graphics - Genuine Windows XP Professional - 1366 x 768
>OpenGL 2.1 limited GPU
You play games or something faggot? That's fine
>Downloading a bunch of userspace tools to work around the fan speed/heating problem
My x200 idles at 30 degrees and gets up to 50 degrees under full load, werks 4 me
>Downloading a bunch of other crap unmaintained userspace tools
Don't know what you're referring to
>My x200 idles at 30 degrees and gets up to 50 degrees under full load, werks 4 me
If you set Windows up properly via the Lenovo Power Manager, and if you set up whatever Linux up properly with TLP, then they will be about the same.
OS X will probably perform badly and be missing features since hackintoshes are hackjobs and it's not made for non-Macs.
I was thinking about it
but if I really buy from American ebay
that means I need to buy backup parts for the model I buy, same laptop model but the parts are not interchangeable(not sure)
I don't understand, whats the problem with using a power manager? Are you just mad because on windows you can't and are forced to use the built in one when on linux you can choose from multiple (laptop mode tools, tlp)?
Are you implying power management is specific to thinkpads?
I live in Europe and I'd like to ask other Europeans if there is a culture like this to take your laptop outside with you? I rarely go outside so I wouldn't know. It seems to be an American thing.
T420, really good condition
Processor: Intel Core i5 2nd Gen. 2540M / 2.60 GHz
RAM: 8 GB DDR3 Memory .
Screen: 14.4" HD+ LED Crystal Bright with 1600 x 900 resolution
Power Adapter: Included
Battery: included (original, extended 9 cell)
Windows 7: Ultimate 64 Bit
$450 This is honestly the best price I can find, and I have been looking for a month on both ebay (shipping fucks me,)
Jesus, what's the battery life on the W700? I thought I heard it was decent, but I'm getting a little over an hour.
I just got one for 360 dollar and that is including the retarded import fees that you have to pay when importing to Sweden from the US. I would also recommend trying to get one without 9 cell battery and without 8 gb ram because they are both pretty cheap to get alone.
Looking at picking up a x240 off of the lenovo outlet site, but im hearing mixed reviews about the panel it uses. I'm coming from a retina though im not really worried about resolution moreso color vibrancy. Could anyone comment on it? Also how much battery life did you get with the 6cell
It took me this fucking long to realize I was supposed to include a picture.
What's a good entry level Thinkpad?
Not Thinkpad related are there any other Laptop brands that are upgradeable like Thinkpads. (In tearms like CPU, motherboard, non soldered GPU, bay HDD, screen exc.)
How good are Lenovo Thinkpads compared to IBM Thinkpads?
It gets 15-20 hours
And it's totally a thinkpad. The keyboard looks different, but don't be fooled. It still runs hot, creaks, makes you look like a dork, has a shitty screen, and will be thoroughly deprecated by a macbook by the time its price drops from $2k for the best possible setup to $500.
>What's a good entry level Thinkpad?
Depends what you want and for how much
>Not Thinkpad related are there any other Laptop brands that are upgradeable like Thinkpads. (In tearms like CPU, motherboard, non soldered GPU, bay HDD, screen exc.)
Dell latitude is the closest line to the thinkpad, but they're generally worse and more expensive
>How good are Lenovo Thinkpads compared to IBM Thinkpads?
There aren't any actual relevant thinkpads made by IBM (last one was t40 I believe), just buy one made before 2010
You wanted faster wifi? Too bad.
In Sweden some macfags likes to go to starbucks and such to display their 2000 usd Fb machine, the only people who does work outside of their homes are students at libraries.
Thinkpad users aren't freetards unless they go through the trouble of flashing an open source BIOS
They're posers trying to fit in to /g/.
Go look up AMT and mull over the possibility of backdoors and master keys in that. Then be delighted to learn that it only works with a set of "approved" wireless chipsets, and mull over the motivation behind locking thinkpad pci ports the fuck down
Thanks.. but if the 9cell battery and 8gb ram is going to cost me 90ish, I might aswell get the entire thing for 450 right?
And right now my canadian dollar is worth only .92 of american dollar so i'm getting screwed online regardless.
Too bad you are too fucking stupid to patch your bios dumb fuck. You picked wrong laptop, should have gone with Macboog Bagina ™
x60 with coreboot is closest you can get to 100% free machine. Other than that there is nothing that makes thinkpads any more free than other laptops.
/g/ is synonymous with pseudo freetards. Free when it suits them, proprietary when they don't care.
>I use free software to avoid backdoors
>oh yeah and closed source games are fine
>also I use skype but don't type any sensitive data into it
>mfw missing out on so many t420 deals for 220$ because I'm 20$ short
being a poorfag sux dix
Sure you don't wanna buy it?
Is there anywhere I can buy these stickers that cover up the screws?
I'm guessing the previous owner lost one and replaced it with this slightly larger, glossy sticker and it bothers the SHIT out of me.
Also I want to try putting W8.1 on it, but no cd/dvd reader and I don't have a flash drive big enough. Is there any way I could do it via sticking the HDD in another machine or remote control?
I upgraded from a Toshiba Satellite L305 to a Thinkpad T60p. Since they're both 15.4 inch, vintage 2008 machines, I feel I can make some very fair comparisons.
The Thinkpad feels more physically solid. The plastic body of the Toshiba flexes perceptibly when it's picked up, and the screen wobbles slightly while typing. The Thinkpad's metal hinges stay just where the screen is adjusted, and the matte black rubberized lid does not attract a litany of fingerprints and smudges like the Toshiba's glossy plastic.
Typing on the Thinkpad is much, much, much better. This is the number one reason I chose the Thinkpad. Laptop keyboards are all terrible, and the Thinkpad is the best of a terrible lot. It's comparable in typing quality to a decent desktop rubber dome keyboard, and the Toshiba keyboard was a mushy nightmare. As a bonus, "mushy nightmare" is becoming the most popular keyboard style in the world because we live in an unjust and perverse universe.
My Thinkpad has a 1680x1050 screen, compared to the 1280x800 Toshiba. A downright frightening number of laptops still come in 1366x768 even today. Apparently I don't even have one of the "good" Thinkpads because I don't have the 1600x1200 IPS screen, but the screen I have suits me just fine - and makes me wonder why the FUCK every laptop in the world is now 16:9 aspect ratio EXCLUSIVELY.
And /g/ will frown on this but the T60p runs League of Legends, Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead 2 and Minecraft quite handily and Skyrim somewhat poorly but still playable. The Intel graphics in the Toshiba couldn't really handle any of those. As far as I can tell those specific games are what most people buy $1000+ gaming laptops for so it's kind of amusing.
Looks like you need to go down to WalMart and buy an 8GB flash drive for $15.
Also pick up some sticker paper while you are there, print black stickers, cut them to fit with x-acto knife, and you're set.
I got one like that for about £75, if you're in America you might be able to go cheaper. To be honest I could have probably got one cheaper but it was a bit of an impulse buy.
Sounds about right to me, thank you. How does the X200 perform? I'm not expecting a lot for it, but I need something for browsing the internet and word processing/spreadsheets on the go. Might try to run inkscape or virtual dj, not expecting anything on that end.
Works fine, the most intensive stuff I've ever done with it is play videos and it can do that fine, has no issues playing high bitrate 1080p bluray rips
Only issue is if you're using linux you may have to hack a bit to get hardware h464 decoding depending on the distro, I run gentoo and had to manually edit the libva-intel-driver ebuild to use the g45-h264 git branch
For web browsing, it's pretty good. You will probably want more ram than 1GB though. I have no experience with inkscape or virtual dj on it. I'm afraid that at the minute the most I've used it for is web browsing and compiling a few short FORTRAN programs. It can handle that ok.
Makes sense, I planned on upgrading the RAM eventually, also investing in a small SSD if I find myself using it a lot. If it can't run those programs it won't kill the deal for me anyway. Thanks.
Maybe I buy a T60 or T60p with a bigger screen (15") and put the T61 mobo inside I did some math and it fits.
Yes I would have to buy 2 thinkpads but could it work?
Getting a matching FRU would be a pain in the ass tho.
Got my X200 in the mail today. To my surprise, it came with activated copies of Windows 7 Ultimate and Office 2013 Professional Plus. I may need them (and Visual Studio) so I kept them on there and set up a dualboot with Xubuntu. This is really an amazing laptop for the price I paid for it.
10/10 would buy and recommend again.
i got the exact same thing, with the original 2 year warranty and an nvidia nvs 4200m for 350$.
You can, and it won't last.
The noise is from the surface in the sleeve bearing no longer being straight or the right inner diameter. It wore the hole out larger. Adding oil temporarily fills up the extra space and dampens the oscillation of it rattling around inside the loose bearing, but that will only last a week to a month.
Get a new fan.
Hello. I can put in any wifi card I want, and I did.
Has anyone had any trouble with the ribbon cable coming loose in the back of an x201 tablets screen? I keep having to open up my screen and push it back in. I'm going to go and buy some better tape tomorrow but it has really been getting to me. Is there no clip to hold that thing in?
It's supposed to be secured in place with kapton tape, and the connection is really tight anyway. Are you sure you've actually got it in all the way flush? And that the cable lower down is properly taped to the screen with cloth pressure tape like it should be?
Maybe post a pic?
Sorry I have it all back together for the 3rd time. The adhesive on the tape was old so I
reapplied some craft glue tape until I can pick up something better later one. The plug pops
out pretty easily but I don't have the money to replace it at the moment.
>good screen options
>still lots of parts available for customization from ebay
They're good for budget non-gaymer purposes.
There are some older Dell Latitudes you can get for good prices, they have good screens/build. For the average person who makes a 'Pick a laptop for me /g/' thread there would be no reason to pick a Thinkpad other stuff.
But you can't stop the Thinkpad maymay.
Just bought this /g/, a 1600x1200 T60, IBM logos
With a FireGL
Yeah, I guess it's a Frankenpad
Roughly 90 USD
But there's a catch, the seller says it freezes after some time, I guess it's because of overheating, could it be something more serious?
It said $50 on the CL ad, but the guy gave it to me for $40 because it seemed to him like I would actually use it. It's been a pinball machine for the most part, but I'm thinking of installing DSL, along with a USB PCMIA card.
$1000? Just buy used dude. You can return it on eBay and if you're buying it in person, test it out thoroughly. You can get any other decent laptop brand new for $1000 that blows that chinkpad out of the water
because an old thinkpad is pretty much the anti-macbook. cheap, utilitarian, good keyboard, easily fixable and upgradeable yourself, looks better, people will think you are a hacker
Congrats the 701C is a cute machine. Dislike the feel of the keyboard but well, I love everything else heh
$40 is a great deal, were you the San Diego guy I lost to?
Get the M4800 with its QHD display and K2100m CPU
Oh yes, and next is that it wasn't produced in the correct IBM factory either.
The WSXGA+ screens I have seen are not that bad at all, I played LoL on my 14" T60p, but since I'm spoiled with the W700ds, I've stopped.
Never tried Skyrim, but thanks for letting me know it can be played, may just get a few more games just so I can install them on my old systems to sell.
They aren't telling you everything about it.
15" T60p laptops came standard with an IPS UXGA or SXGA+ screen, which were known for their wide viewing angles.
Here is a comparision of a W500 and a 'Frankenpad' T60/1 (15" T60p with the mobo chassis modified to fit a 14" T61 mobo)
You can see the difference between TFT and IPS technology.
Its /g/ hype, like mechanical keyboards
About as fucked as getting pulled over by the cops after ripping a sick bong
Try out a 15" T60p ThinkPad first, and then think about getting the slight performance boost from a T61, all in all, the 140M GPU from the T61 vs the V5200 on the T60p didn't seem to have that much of a difference when I played LoL.
But I did like it more, yet I think its because I was quite happy that I was able to do such a "hack" job.
Yes, no need to switch cables or whatnot, just make sure you have a spudger or some sort of long flat object that isn't a normal flat head screwdriver to take off the LCD bezel.
Decent price too, but its because it has some deadspots.
no its just a T60p, unless it has a W500 mobo inside it.
>buying it and still needing a battery because it degraded overtime
Not going to lie I eventually would like one. I hear that Macbooks have a decent student discount, plus the refurb ones are decently priced.
No, make one.
>that CPU, GPU, Screen guide I've been too lazy to finish
Kinda, if it's one with one of the fastest CPU's and a decent GPU (aka not a Intel iGPU like those fucking GMA's)
I never had a thinkpad, so I'm talking out of my ass
But I do have the same iGPU that the T60 haves, and a pretty low end C2D at 1.8 ghz, and it's able to do jack shit when it's about heavy stuff, it could barely emulate PS1 so I guess it would have problems with N64 stuff, and it couldn't do NDS
Best bet go with a later thinkpad
I ran a Sega Saturn emulator decently on an X61T (SSD, L7500 1.6GHz CPU, integrated gfx, SXGA+)
I played Rayearth, Radiant Silvergun, Panzer Dragoon with decent FPS, light lag here and there.
I know the N64 is a stronger system, but it should do OK, it will be playable.
>Bought a replacement screen cable for my x200t
>Has the wrong connector, is 45N4369 instead of the 43Y9826 that I needed
A used one could have been owned by a /a/-tier pedo and a refurbished one could be mangled beyond repair (or will just need some configurations changed) if its some shitty supplier
Something like this? I honestly am not sure what to look for. I plan on putting a 120GB SSD inside, using it for notes at school and such.
>4channing and web-browsing
>posts link of a tablet with an i7
Well, the IPS screens are better than the TN of the other standard X201 units. (picture wont look like shit at angles.)
But it is limited to WXGA
A special few X201s and X300/1 come with WXGA+ screen, I recommend those for web surfing, espeically since you could only see 1/3 of your word document if its WXGA crap
It'll probably end somehwere around $270, the i7 would drain the battery faster than you'd think but it will def last you a good while
An i5 is sufficient for an ultraportable, especially at what you will be doing.
Get a T400 maybe if a T60 is too old of you.