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Here's the future /g/, in 10 years this is the rig you will be shit posting on.

http://youtu.be/pW5iKF3eQ6Y
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fuck that, i don't like waving my hands and arms everywhere. I like moving my fingers a few inches and controlling the entire interface. I don't even use a mouse.
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>Pet jumps on desk
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why does it look like a shitty and inferior version of what we've already got? what's with this trend of making new shit that doesn't reach feature parity with our current setups? why? I want to move to mars and start a colony with people who aren't fucking retards
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That's the worst video of theirs. Stupid guy presenting stupid (and already ancient) and useless thing. More like future of retard.
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>>43263502
the day computerphile became shit
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>>43263502

Holy fucking shit, my old CS lecturers are on this channel!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFJrHuSXnZM

Both the main guy (Steve Bagley) and the old guy talking about Steve Jobs at the beginning (David Brailsford) taught me for different modules. Crazy shit.

>inb4 gr8 blog post

get rekd
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not remotely exciting
try
http://youtu.be/IERHs7yYsWI?t=3m10s
or
http://vimeo.com/97903574
on for size
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>>43263502
>not having your own personalized OS
>not having virtual waifu assistant
>not falling in love with your computer

If 2025 doesnt have an OS with scarlett johanssons voice im boycotting microsoft and comitting seidoku
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>>43264161
>Scarlet johansson
>Not your waifus voice.
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Yeah I kinda like my computer the way it is, having to move all of my shit around seems awful, I hate anything touchscreen besides my phone.
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>>43263540
I wouldnt mind the ability to add mods for control gui in the desktop* touchscreens.

Like a startrek looking interface to control a space flight sim. that would get my dick hard

Although I dont think I'd want 1 swingarm monitor and 3 built-in desk monitors with fuckhuge bezels.
Probably 2-3 monitors and 1 large desk touch input screen
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>>43264323
See it's people like you who are the problem. We have experts in ergonomics that design incredible systems for interacting with computers but then there's idiotic consumers who watch scifi and think that's what the future should look like and discount it out of hand so instead we have gigantic touch screen running at 1366 by 738 becoming the norm.

Of course they're going to wave their hands around and touch gigantic buttons that are clearly legible on television, the audience couldn't follow along if they were using data hands with a well designed GUI made for productive work. It's a fantasy.
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this is the future i want
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Looks good in a scifi movie but part of me is wondering: Will these touch screen desks or whatever be user serviceable?
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I do not believe so. I think that in 10 years I won't have monitors, I will do all my work and play using a head mounted VR display.
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>>43263502

>Interactive porn that you can control by slapping your dick on the screen

Why is this the first thing I thought of?
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In my opinion I think stuff like this will catch on, but for there to really be any major ux changes I think it has to start with something major at the os or hardware level. Computerphile is badass though.
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>>43264965
Because you are a sick little man
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>>43264852

SOON
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>>43265016

you say that now but when my Cockslap! game finishes you'll still buy it and all the DLC
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>>43265045
The Age of Waifus ended before it could begin.
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>>43264923
>I will do all my work and play using a head mounted VR display.

this

I'm surprised no one has made any kind of desktop environment made for it that is no longer bound by 2 dimensions. Just get your keyboard and mouse on a swivel chair and have infinite workspace
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>>43264632
datahand makes me so hard

I wish I could afford one, or at least the hall sensors to make one.
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>>43265083
>hurrrrrr
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>>43265083

Oh wow.
I can imagine this actually happening all over
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>>43264885
Sure, why not? They probably put the touch sensors on the screens themselves.
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>>43265091
Have you tried the OR DK1? the resolution is too low for real work. 4K VR is when the fun will start, and holy crap will this be fun.
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>>43265107
>actually believing him
>reddit
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>>43265107
wait and see
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>>43265091
It's not ready yet, the resolution is too low. Desktop environments will definitely become popular once the 4K models and beyond start being released though
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>>43264852
How could someone even do that in public?
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>>43265107
Yeah I'm sure that reddit post is legally binding unlike when he said that he wasn't going to sell out Oculus Rift on the MTBS3D forums

He could be fired tomorrow and replaced by someone else, his word is essentially worthless.
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>>43265161
>>43265162
As opposed to what? Your retard speculations?

His word has a lot more validity than yours.
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>>43265169
He doesn't actually fuck it, just dry hump it
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>>43263502
What a load of bullshit
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>>43263768
yeah I don't fault anyone for trying new things with interface, but being so blatantly dismissive of a keyboard is frustrating, it's just SO good for data input
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>>43263502
Hey look it's fucking nothing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_PixelSense

You can buy this shit today, it has been available for some time.
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>>43264161
As soon as i saw that video i was going to post a pic of "HER" that movie was amazing
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>>43263502
wow, its fucking nothing
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>>43263502
>touch based interface
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>>43263502
Microsoft Future did it better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6cNdhOKwi0
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>>43263502
sweeping your arms about the desk compared to keeping your hands relatively still on a precise and intuitive navigation tool
it fucking sucks
unless you can lift those panels out and angle them towards you, have fun reading them with that glare.
I'll stick with monitors + KBM
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>>43265448
This actually looks more realistic.
Keyboard is still there, and integrated into the design. Still mouse capable, probably
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The surface table did this first.
What happened to it?
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>>43263502
>16k resolution workspace
hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng
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>>43265602
Actually only 8k, but still
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>>43265535
They realized it was fucking dumb
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>>43265602
I thought he said it was 8k
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>>43265535

They are real

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmOku92MlQc
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>>43265624
>8k
>anything smaller than 60 inches
completely unreadable
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>>43265667
There is this thing called zoom.
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>>43265667
8K is more for 80 inches, that puts it around 100 dpi
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>>43265535
Renamed, see >>43265292
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Literally the only better option to control a computer than a mouse/keyboard, is mental control. As its instantaious and exactly what you want it to do with no confusion. It elimates misspelling a word for example, because once a mental link is established, it can account for your faillings in real time and correct it.

Also, VR would be better than a monitor. Rather than trying to focus in on just the rectangle and trying to ignore the bezel and the wall behind the computer, you'd just have nothing but your work/applications to look at....

Touch and speech is a dead-end!!!
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>>43265696
I don't get that, why have such high DPI if you need to upscale to use it
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>>43265716
Because silky smooth picture quality that's why
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>>43265696
Then why pay for an 8k monitor and the GPU power needed to run it? Even 4K at the size of a desktop monitor is tiny as fuck.

>>43265701
My guess was a bit off then. 90-100ppi is comfortable from desktop viewing distances, but up to 110 is fine too. Higher than that is not.
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>not using a tiling window manager
All of that wasted screen space... Why?
>look you can zoom and rotate windows and drag them around
Just like Wayland; who gives a fuck?
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>>43265734
but it's like pointless, why not work on getting higher refresh rates and better energy efficiency, do we have pixels that can light themselves yet?
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>>43265770
isnt that what the AMOLED shit does?
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>mfw chiropractors will be in high demand if this thing fully replaced the mouse and keyboard
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>>43265778
[yellow intensifies]
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>>43263502
>"what if we made using a computer like working with paper on a desk"

Nigga I hate working on a desk.
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>>43265778
Does that look promising? I had an idea for nano strands that could be woven together and made into any size
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>>43265782
>quacks
>high demand

only in america :)
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>>43263502
Touch screens aren't the future?
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>>43263502
Great man, I can finally free myself of the cayge of, uhh, uh, the scryean maus and kee-bord.

This buckling spring keyboard really is horrible to write code on yeah man I hate it every day and this beautiful 4k monitor just sucks, I'm going to go throw it out the window right now.
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>>43265381
That movie was shit.

You are shit.
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>>43265448
I never feel happy about the future, all I can think of is how violated muh freedoms will become.
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>Puts monitors at a 90 degree angle from his face
>they're all glossy

Yeah, I totally want to take advice from this retard.
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This is the real future of desktop OS. Every TV will come with an inbuilt PC card. All problems solved.
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>>43265806
Well yeah, obviously it's not perfect yet, but I thought AMOLED could power individual pixels down, etc.
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>>43266054
>desktop PC
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>>43265942
This.
It's already bad and shows no sign of getting better, prolly just gonna get worse until a societal collapse, and I dont look forward to that either.
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>>43263502

I don't think that will be the future strictly talking, but it sketches some interesting ideas.
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>>43266295

These ideas are around at least since 15 years. There is really nothing new to see in OP's video.
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>>43266074
arguably the period inbetween the early 2000's and the invention of smartphones were the most free we've ever been tech-wise
There are enough people motivated by freedom that i'd reasonably expect that barring another platform shift we will have completely free, baseband-included, phones generally available for those interested in a few years and we will be back where we started
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>>43266339

15 years or not, when an idea is a good idea, one must acknowledge it.

There is also another thing, why would you use a gazillion screens, graphics cards, and computers, while you could be projecting 4K video on a wall and capturing movements with embedded sensors in said wall at the same time to move stuff around?
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>>43266375
$K you mean?
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I don't see anything which is physically big, so it takes a lot of space, becoming the norm in computing anytime soon.

And it will also not be cheap. Takes a lot of space + expensive = not the norm, ever.
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>>43266435

"The projecting wall" could be useful in an investigation room, or a class. Tho I don't know about it's expensiveness.
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>>43263502
>that glare
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>>43263502
I think a short throw projector and depth camera would be cheaper, more versatile, and lack bezels.
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>>43266435
When will I get my Million K Hologram monitor where I can enlarge it to any size I want without suffering any quality issues?
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>>43264852

Feminists will get lonely and destroy it.
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Fuck that, I don't want to bend my neck down to look at a horizontal table.

I can see this having specialized applications, but who the fuck would consider this a good everyday computer?
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>>43263502
Thats literally the worst attempt at making a video about a guy that thinks that he's thinking outside of the box.
I thought it was going to be a ripoff of project looking glass a decade later, but it's just some old guy being a show off with more monitors.

I hate you OP
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>>43263502
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No. It's not ergonomic. In even the least. Try craning your head down for hours on end and see how much your neck hurts. You dumb little fuck.
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>>43265448
This gave me an erection
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>>43266640

Interactive laser wall.
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>>43263502
>table computer
looking down all day is bad erogonomics and people know it, that's why people use stands with their tablets or cases that prop them up, also why laptops are angled the way they are (also some other factors like shitty screens have shitty view angles)

and the problem with touch/motion controls on a vertical surface is your hands tire fast if it is a desktop sized screen.
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>>43265709
Mental control would be shit unless we filtered out 90% of what we sent the computer's way.

People aren't always 100% focussed on things. There are usually other thoughts knocking about in our heads that would easily fuck up whatever we were casually directing towards the computer.
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when will people realize that the keyboard/mouse combo is the pinnacle of computer input technology.

why the fuck do people think that touching the fucking screen is somehow going to give you better control than a mouse pointer. first of all you can't even see what's under your finger when touching the screen.

dumb fucks
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>>43266917
It's also why any traditional animators tend to use equipment that is slanted.

For example, I used to date someone who specialized in traditional 2d animation; she used a simple light box, but it was slanted, and all the other people she knew who animated worked in very much the same way.

It's why animator desks are also slanted.
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>>43263502
The wall will probably have more use than the table though the uses for meeting/desk surface is also there
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>>43263502
These have been out for quite some time now and there's a reason why no one uses them. These will never catch on, regardless of how hard you shill for it.
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>>43263502
Frankly, if Intel and AMD don't get their shit together and actually push performance on desktop CPUs, the rig I'll be shitposting on in ten years will be the same one I'm shitposting on today.
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Well, the Gigabyte Brix are a solid option for small form factor, but for the price (they're damn expensive and still don't include storage or memory) you could build a basic mATX rig with more options, easier to replace parts, and much better cooling.

When a desktop i7 (equivalent) can run at full load without overheating and throttling in a small form-factor, along with a fantastic integrated graphics model, that will change things quite a bit.
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>>43265811
>"what if we made using a computer like working with paper on a desk"

Isn't that called the "desktop metaphor" and we've already essentially perfected it?
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>>43263502
>new paradigm of working
>having all your windows and shit spread out on your desk like a bunch of fucking papers
We went to computers to get rid of all these fucking papers stacked on top of each other.
>oh shit, where the fuck did I put that word window?
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>>43265448
why don't they do it then?
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>>43265107
They "trust me"
Dumb fucks.

>Captcha: Welcei it
>Wel cei it
>We'll see it
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>>43265107
>Guarantee you won't have to log in every time
>No statement as to whether there's a one-time log in.
:^) there's a way around everything.
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>>43266054
Is that Jackie Chan?
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>>43263502
This looks so uncomfortable that my harm started to hurt.

Face it, touch is shit.
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>>43265197
Actually it has none, because he works for Zuckerberg, who makes all the final decisions. His word holds about as much weight as any other employee's.
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>>43267087
This. What ever happened to doubling in power every 18 months?
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>>43264095
woah, that reminds me of http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=002725
sorry if you hate homestuck. i don't like it much but i figured this was relevant
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>>43264632
we cant even escape staggered keyboards because a better one looks different and yet was never featured in a movie. FTGE
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I hope that in 10 years we'll be able to use our brain directly to compute.

Or at least that we can use our brain to imput data into the computer.
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>>43264161
What a fucking terrible movie.
I've never seen such garbage in my life.
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>>43264161
>comitting seidoku
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>>43265107
>I guarantee that you won't have to log into your Facebook account every time
>every time

It's over.
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>>43265045
There's a version of this with facebook logos and zuckerberg all over it now isn't there
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>>43268760
His word holds as much weight as was negotiated in the contracts before selling his company.
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>>43271499
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>>43269477
It's a myth. There is no fact about computer power doubling every 18 months. The closest thing is an obsevation that states transistor density had historically doubled every 18 months.
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>>43265850
We know for a fact that human touch promotes healing. We know for a fact that placebo promotes healing. If it works, then why not?
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>>43269477
>>43267087
Why bother improving performance anyway?

What's the user gonna do, move over to PowerPC? HA!

The death of multiple-architectures (Symbolized by PowerPC mac) competing on the desktop was the death of this industry.

Coincidentally apple dropped PowerPC just one year before the iPhone decided to finish the industry off by giving normalfags easy-to-use smartphones, leading into the iPad and the death of the netbook.
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>>43271563
The death of the netbook started long before the ipad. Microsoft's damage control for the netbooks did really well to hinder the proliferation of Linux on the netbook.
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>>43271544
go take your sugar pill bullshit elsewhere. you can't placebo your way out of a shitty workspace environment.
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>>43271591
Oh yeah, but now there's cheap android netbooks providing a viable alternative for normalfags who want to cheap out on a net-viewing device.

I miss when they were forced to buy Windows XP netbooks. (Linux would have been more ideal, but still.)

I'm too lazy to even try and tidy up this phrasing to make me sound less anti-consumer. I just don't like tablets, and I do like netbooks. I accept my preference has lost, but nothing stops me wishing otherwise.
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>>43271608
Did you know Dilbert strips help bluepill staff into complaining about shit work environments less?
>"Xerox management had recognized what more gullible Dilbert readers did not: Dilbert is an offbeat sugary substance that helps the corporate medicine go down. The Dilbert phenomenon accepts—and perversely eggs on—many negative aspects of corporate existence as unchangeable facets of human nature...As Xerox managers grasped, Dilbert speaks to some very real work experiences while simultaneously eroding inclinations to fight for better working conditions."

You can placebo your way out of anything.
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>>43263502
>http://youtu.be/pW5iKF3eQ6Y
>5:32
fucking kikes
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>>43265709
but I do speeling mistakes in my mind as well??
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>>43271544
The why not is because you're paying for it.
You can get both placebo AND real medicine from real medicine
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>>43271696
Results matter more than a bit of money that's easily earned back. That's why people buy placebos knowing full well that they are placebo.
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>>43265535
It's literally the shape of iPad. Before iPad.
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>>43263502
>in 10 years.
Nigger the first one I could setup right now in 20 minutes with 3 easily obtainable touch monitors and a table saw.
The second one looks like the TV wall setup bestbuys used to have until they realized it was stupid technology and everyone hated the black lines(shit must of been 10 years ago)
I also dont understand the "problems" he is running into. Couldnt he just connect 4 tvs or so into one 4k display, then just hook up the four clusters to the computer as 4, 4k displays via Display port or some shit. The fuck is he going on about ethernet? I dont understand..

also keeps talking about "like working with paper" AS if the whole reason we dont do that know isnt because current computers are better.
it's equivalant to saying, we got rid of the backspace key and threw you a tube of white out, to make it more like working with a type writer.
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>>43271733
>It's literally the shape of iPad. Before iPad.
... and it's the size of a table. 4:3 aspect ratio. How novel. No prior art for that.
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>>43271966
I mean the bezels (smaller on sides, larger on top and bottom), rounded corners, color scheme (front panel is black and the back is light-colored). It looks like a hueg iPad. Not just any tablet, but like iPad.
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Too lazy to read what's been posted. So I'll just post videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MnQ8EkwXJ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRH8eimU_20
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>>43263502
>the future of desktop computing is a huge smartphone screen embedded into your desk
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>>43265448

>50 years in the future
>white and asian people still trying to get clean drinking water for africans

you would think somebody would teach those fuckers how to dig a well for themselves...in the glorious future.
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>>43272774
>Learn a nigger
lel
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>>43268343
It`s Genghis Khan you silly boy.
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>>43263502
>still cant rest on touch screen

until you make a touch screen that can differentiate between input touch and rest touch this is useless
you need to be able to just put your hands on it because its a fuggen desk
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>>43265197
He was staunchly against the very thing that he did, which was sell out.

The man has no convictions and no honor. Everything he says should be taken with a grain of salt. The servers for Occulus more than likely will be hosted at Facebook headquarters. There is no independence. He's trash.

But he would have sold anyway. They needed the money.
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>>43265091
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dgtba_GpG-U
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>>43275018
>The servers for Occulus
What exactly are they needed for?

Like processing that everyone's use goes through, or just specialized applications?
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>>43275018
they should have sold to a hardware company, because that is what THEY ARE.
Samsung, Sony, Toshiba, hell, even Microsoft and Apple would have been better choices, but they sold to a social network, which just goes to show that they dont care about the future of media.
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