I need legit replies, not just people suggesting whatever model they bought.
- I need a computer for programming, and 2D + SIMPLE 3D game development.
It will also be my main computer:
-Playing 2D games
Programs I will be using -
-Win7 OS (might dual boot with linux)
-Visual Studio 2013 Ultimate
-Android development software
My Budget is around 250$ including shipping.
What used/ older model thinkpad should I get for this purpose that can handle all of the things listed with ease?
And what specs should I need minimum?
just got the thinkpad yoga 12.5 with the i7, 256ssd 8gb ram and the digitizer screen.
for $999, jelly fag
Just dropped half of a cup of tea in my T420s, luckily all the liquid accumulated in the fan area, and some came out of the keyboard drains. Just had to disassemble it, dry some thing and assemble again. Works perfectly now
>triple the price of an x201t
>thinking anyone will be "jelly"
Also, this is a thinkpad thread so please go somewhere else
>his think pad is so shitty, it can only handle saving google thumbnails
Grade A** 14" HD+ Business Laptop PC ~
Lenovo ThinkPad T420 (4180-FB6) ~ 2nd Generation Intel Core i7 (i7-2640M) @ 2.80GHz ~
320GB HDD!! ~
8GB DDR3 RAM! ~
DVDROM (Multi-Player) ~
Integrated WEBCAM!! ~
GENUINE Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit) Installed + Warranty!
is this overkill for what I need?
hey /g/, i've started to enjoy elementary OS, i have almost no experience with linux, but i like the layout and design decisions they've made. unfortunately, my touchpad sensitivty is too great, and adjusting the slider in the touchpad settings window makes no difference. does anyone know of a terminal command that might help?
depends, how big are your programs and how demanding are your games?
odds are it wil be overpowered, but the hd 3000 from sandy bridge will be a lot nicer than the shitty hd 5700 (or whatever its called ) in the t410
if its a good deal id go for it, otherwise id wait and see if one with an i5 or an i3 shows up for cheaper
x220 reporting in
>6-cell and 9-cell batteries
>usb 3.0 expresscard
I know there's a lot of people here who look down on the x220 for various reasons, but I love this laptop. I mainly use it for on the go coding, and just general usage. It runs virtual machines fine. I don't really have any complaints. A 1080p screen would be cool.
If you're thinking about getting an x220, and the 16:9 screen/slightly modified keyboard aren't deal breakers for you then I suggest going for it if you can find one for a decent price that fits your budget.
Here's what I ended up paying
>x220 i5 4gb ram with warranty (~$260) used/basically mint condition
>another 4gb ram ($38) new
>usb 3.0 expresscard ($8) new
>OEM 6-cell battery ($30) new
>250gb SSD ($140) new
total = ~$475
>that feel when you had to buy a used thinkpad someone had already molested
>installing weird tweaks to solve problems like no native usb 3 support
>realising that im using a 7 year old laptop when computer hardware is rendered obsolete even after a few weeks in todays environment
where does it end
>computer hardware is rendered obsolete even after a few weeks in todays environment
Obsolete to who? I think it depends on what the computer is being used for that determines whether it's obsolete or not.
just got a x230 off ebay. how the fuck do i reset the cmos? tried pulling the battery, only resets clock as far as i can tell, all the other settings stay the same. I'm autistics so i want to reset to as close to factory state as possible.
any x240 owners here? I need a laptop with amazing battery life as I'm commuting to college and won't really have time to charge up as I'll probably be there all day. I also have extra money due to my current financial state so I figured I'd treat myself to a new laptop. any advice, reviews, or anything?
>usb 3.0 expresscard ($8) new
According to the thinkwiki the expresscard reduces battery life. Wouldnt it be better to get one of the i7 x220 that come with usb3.0 as standard?
Having said all this i love my i5 x220 and I use it for on the go coding, with ssd it cant be beat.
im keeping my wwan so I can clone my simcard and internet on the go without having to drain my mobile phones battery
Anyone here have experience with making their ThinkPad a hackintosh? I got Mac OS on my ThinkPad with something called Niresh, but it didn't install WiFi drivers and my resolution is locked at 1024x768. I'm not sure if I need to start the install over or what. I already linked it to my iCloud and all that stuff.
>According to the thinkwiki the expresscard reduces battery life. Wouldnt it be better to get one of the i7 x220 that come with usb3.0 as standard?
I don't notice any unusual battery drainage with the usb 3.0 expresscard mounted. I'm sure there's a reduction in battery life when it's in use lol. The i7 model would actually give you worse battery performance than an i5 model with a usb 3.0 expresscard. The i7 model is also about $80 more than the i5 model, and harder to come by. It's not worth the extra money imo.
IIRC, there's a lot of performance gains in things like startup, solution load, opening large solutions, etc. I don't really remember too much about other fancy features as I didn't use 2012 as much, and I've since moved onto VS14CTP.
Care to share more about your experiences btw? How do you use it? I use it about 70 hours a week so I'm a bit familiar with things.
Looking for a portable Thinkpad
prefer 15inch, settle with 14.
Budget around $500
Going to be used as a semi desktop replacement
Will be looking to upgrade to a SSD
So far I've come up with the T410, can pick one up for $380 AUD cheapest.
My brother has a W520 supplied by his work (Symantec) and he runs VMs all day long. He's got 32GB of RAM in it. I've never used VMs to do any actual work, just to try to play a game, so I'm not sure what sort of hardware is needed. I have a T420 that works pretty well with whatever I throw at it.
With a T410, I guess I'd decide if what you're going to do is GPU-intensive or not. My T420 has switchable graphics, but I believe the T410 can only come with integrated.
I got my T420 for $430 or so off eBay I think.
Ok, so thinkpads are gorgeous, versatile, and modular moreso than other laptops available.
BUT, why do all of you guys foam and drool over computers that are for all intents and purposes really not that impressive as far as specifications are concerned? /g/'s level of obsession with these computers astounds me considering your tendency to spew vitriol at someone who purchases an apple computer. You're the same as the macbook fanboys, if not worse because of your incredibly misguided superiority complex.
Don't even know why I posted this, guess the idiotic echo chamber of bad ideas that is /g/ finally broke me.
I'm not too fussed on GFX, the most I'd be doing is streaming some sports occasionally.
The T410 I'm looking at has a 256mb geforce gfx card lol
The cheapest T420 on ebay atm is $590 including postage. This includes the Intel 3000 card. Too expensive imo,
It was an honest question. Why? Tell me why you spend days scouring eBay for a dirty laptop that's 10 years old. Tell me why you obsessively switch out every single component to squeeze the last drop of performance out of your geriatric machines. But above all of that explain how this makes you superior to anyone.
I fucking own a colorware t60 so it's not like I'm some idiot. I'm just not a foaming freak like all of you.
You seem to almost understand. I guess I'd add on "great GNU/Linux compatibility and documentation" to your reasons.
Because of the cult following ThinkPads have, you can find answers to some pretty obscure problems you urn into.
I think a majority of /g/ is made up of poor NEETs (no offense intended, I'm a NEET myself) and that makes used ThinkPads appealing. Companies by them in bulk because they're business-class laptops. After the company decides they're old and order their employees new ThinkPads, there are suddenly hundreds of ThinkPads on eBay. At this very moment you can get a ThinkPad with a sandy bridge CPU, discrete GPU, and 8GB of RAM for under $500.
I think all this probably also applies to the Dell and HP equivalents of ThinkPads
i can afford a newer laptop, but my T60 really does everything i need from a laptop, the only downside being less battery life, but i've not yet been in a situation where i haven't been able to plug in somewhere
basically, it's cheap and adequate, and the keyboard is SO much better than anything i've tried in recent years
>as far as specifications are concerned
being this pleb
you can't really do a ThinkPad justice by spelling out its specs, nigga. for one thing the keyboard is fucking peerless, the build quality is to this day one of the very best (at least all the models that /g/ recommends), and OS support is just unmatched. What good will a laptop built on the latest platform do you when you can't even utilize it to its full potential because of the shittastic modern OSes available today? Not to mention the rest of the hardware is often shit. Shit keyboard. Shit display. Shit expandability. ThinkPads are old, but they are dependable in a way that nearly all modern computers are not. They look damn good as well.
I got a T60p that disappointed me quite a bit. I didn't really trust that an SSD and more RAM would fix all my issues with it, so I just saved up and got a newer ThinkPad instead. I'm mostly happy with my T420, but I honestly don't like laptops that much in the first place.
I put CrunchBang on there. It's a lightwight distro so I didn't think there'd be any issues. When pressing keyboard shortcuts like Super-F for file manager or Super-W for web browser, it just took way too long to open, and it couldn't handle many tabs being open in the browser.
I have a WD Velociraptor as my CrunchBang HDD in my desktop and most likely a 5400rpm HDD in the T60p, so that alone was likely the cause for the difference in loading times. Aside from the crummy drive, it only has 1GB of RAM instead of 3GB of RAM.
I don't have an income, but if I ever do I plan on upgrading the T60p to its max potential to see what could've been. I like the look and feel a bit better than my T420's, I wish I could just shove the specs of the T420 into the T60p.
That's true, but it was still pretty frustrating how I could count multiple second after pressing a shortcut before the thing would appear. I had only really experienced that issue on Windows before.
Next time I play with my T60p I'll probably try to put Arch on it. I haven't spent much time with Arch, but I believe if I really apply myself I can get an autistic setup like Arch and a tiling WM to run pretty smoothly.
Looking for a laptop under $800 to do some midlevel gaming on. Not trying to run crysis or anything, but I also want to be able to play some recentish games without a problem? Should I go for Lenovo's gaming laptop line or can cheaper laptops run games without a problem? Sorry for the noobish question but I've never bought a laptop before. I'm running old ass hardware on my desktop (pretty much upgraded Pentium 4 lol) and a chromebook.
I've got a cheapish laptop that is looking like it's in its final few years of service, but I'm not in a hurry. Something with a little more than integrated would be nice too. Hard drive isn't an issue as I keep all my media on an external anyway, and if speed was bothering me I would buy an SSD.
I don't have too much Thinkpad related knowledge as I just recently decided to start looking for a new laptop.
I also can't rice for shit so I'm using stock mint with just a different gtk theme
If you manage to find one with switchable graphics, I'd say it's worth a lot more than a normal one. Not even because of the difference in performance, but because of most of the T420 ThinkPads having only integrated from what I've seen.
Every single T420 has Intel integrated graphics, some T420 models also have an Nvidia GPU inside. Nvidia Optimus GPUs allow you to switch between integrated to use less power and discrete to increase performance. It's common in laptops.
No. You're probably thinking of one single very old ThinkPad. The T61p had some thermal issues that caused part of the motherboard to melt over time or something. Not even every T61p was affected by the issue.
I can't wait for my X220 to arrive. I ordered it on Wednesday night, but the eBay seller hasn't dispatched it yet. If he hasn't done it by Monday I reckon I'll get back in contact with him. Still, it's all very exciting.
I don't know, but please post again when you think of something. I was getting bored of my T420 and tried to turn it into a hacktinosh, but the WiFi drivers didn't install correctly and the resolution is locked at 1024x768 so I just kinda set it on the floor and decided to watch some anime.
The DVD drive of the ultrabase of my X201 doesn't work. I installed all drivers. The strange this is that it lights up for a second when I start the computer. I am even able to open the drive then.
i'm considering buying the equipment to do a hard bios mod on my x230 since the cocksuckers at lenovo have a wireless card whitelist and it's the only way to install an 802.11ac minipcie card in my laptop and have it function.
just curious if anyone here has done this before.
>thw perfectly working 8gb ram t430 for under 300 euros
Thank god for job-hopping tech illiterates.
When fully charged although it says I should get 1 hour 40, with no wifi etc. I get about an hour. I plan on getting a new battery soon, maybe you might want to do the same.
I tried an X1 Carbon at the Microsoft Store last night for shits and giggles. I don't think the clickpad is as bad as everybody on /g/ makes it seem like, but I definitely don't like the keyboard over my T420's.
Speaking of, I upgraded to a T420 from a T61 and I was a little disappointed with the build quality difference. I was bothered at first by the 16:9 screen, but it's not a hard adjustment to get used to. I still prefer 16:10 for laptops, though. I also miss all my activity LED's. Going from a lot of activity LED's to only two of them is depressing. And finally, KEYBOARD FLEX. My T61 had no keyboard flex whatsoever but I was really put off by seeing the T420 has a slightly flexible keyboard. It's not a deal breaker, but it is a little unfortunate seeing the build quality of these great laptops slowly decline
They do actually vote for members of a parliament.
The voting is about as free as you'd expect, but shockingly there are more than one party. (all subservient to the Korean Workers Party)
any britbongs here? people seem to be getting x220 for bargain prices in murica, but what would be a decent price for an ex-business machine in excellent cosmetic condition and with a warranty until 9/15?
How much better are newest Thinkpads than T420?
I don't want shitty keyboard but I also don't want a deprecated laptop
Is the keyboard properly set and both screws actually tightened down?
I've missed one or both screws a couple times when putting back together my T420 and that makes a huge difference if they aren't tightened down, especially the one underneath the trackpoint buttons.
Yesterday I finally got my first thinkpad, an x200. It was a pain to get one in my country, going to every used computer shop and browsing e-stores for months (I'm from Chile, South America), but I got one for 135 USD approx without charger (the charger costed me about 28 USD). I'm using it since last night, uninstalled windows 7 and now I'm running LXLE 14.04 (everything worked out of the box). I'm fucking in love with this machine.
I'll begin saving for an 8-cell battery, and maybe an SSD.
Thanks for all the advice you gave me on choosing and buying this. You /g/uys are awesome!
I know, some anons have told me that. However, getting one with decent size is expensive as fuck. I think I will be getting one around 60-90 GB when I get the money for it. Thanks for the advice, anon.
Can I upgrade the screen on the x200? Is it difficult/dangerous to do?
>Bought a T60p
>Screen res is nice but there's much dust in the screen so it looks like shit
>CPU and GPU run really hot
>battery lasts 1h even though it is a 9 cell one
>HDD seems slow as fuck
>It might be clogged with dust.
Will check later.
>Did you reinstall the OS?
Not yet, but it being slow is not one of the main problems. Biggest problem is that the screen is fucked up. Is there a way to clean the backlight layer of an LCD? I cant fin anything on that topic.
Thanks. Picture related, shit in my screen.
...new from Lenovo?
Or from some guy who flipped the machine after he fucked up a DIY job and decided the buyer wouldn't notice until it was too late? Looks like there's crap between multiple layers.
OK. A few tips for once you open it up.
The silvery polarizer on the back of the LCD-proper scratches if you touch it with practically anything. If canned air can't take any stuck-on dirt off of it, cut a Q-tip in half, stick some double-stick tape on the stick (not the cotton) and try to pull it off carefully under a magnifying glass without touching the polarizer. Obviously, don't get fingerprints on it! Wear unpowdered latex gloves.
The layer right under the LCD is either a prism or a diffuser depending on the screen model. The diffusers are coated polyester; don't use the q-tip trick because if you do accidentally touch it with tape, you'll probably rip the coating off. canned air only.
The prisms are polyester. No coating. But they scratch easy.
Dirt under the prism layer won't show unless it's huge or is sticking layers together.
Hopefully canned air alone will fix you up. Unless you scratch the hell out of something or fuck up a diffuser, nothing is overly fragile. Don't use chemicals! Use clean air and be careful.
I've had a used T61 for a year and a half, and I bought a WXGA+ T400 a few days ago for just $46 plus shipping. It appears to boot to BIOS, and the seller has been left positive feedback for selling others at the same price. All it needs is more RAM and a boot drive, but I've already got those covered.
No. Unless everything is intact and in excellent condition, has 4+GB RAM (remember, it's DDR2) and a newer hard drive, stay away. I think the T400 is beginning to supplant the T61 as the budget 14.4" Core2 Duo workhorse at that price range. You may not be able to get as good a deal as I did on the T400, but just don't pay more than $100 for a T61 at this point, if that.
[under the prism is another diffuser, then the clear acrylic waveguide, then the rear lambertian reflector behind that. Dirt there isn't going to be visible unless it's like full of boogers or something]
Thanks! It is the UXGA Flexview screen if this helps. I'm not sure if I should open it, it seems to be dieing already: when I close or open the screen sometimes black and white lines appear in a part of it. Any way of fixing that?
I bought a used Thinkpad x201 Tablet. Got Debian installed with BSPWM and I'm pretty satisfied.
Only problems are:
1) Battery i got was kinda old, so doesn't hold charge that long. Looked online and official batteries go for over $100, and third party ones get shit reviews.
2) Tablet portion worked right away, except I can't get programs to recognize the eraser button on the stylus.
Does anyone here have experience doing an eGPU setup with their Thinkpad's micro/mini ExpressCard slot?
It seems like these guys are the only ones that sell these things... http://www.hwtools.net/eGPU.html and they aren't exactly cheap.
Why do some fags say that a GNU/Leenucks distro is better than Windows for Programming.
I've been reading Java/Python lately, so I will start programming some day, and in my T60 I have W7. I don't really play games. So are there any benefits for programming or it's just /g/?
bought this earlier. also got a brand new 8 cell battery and a 120 GB SSD. I got some random laptop sticks laying around that I'm gonna test.
Anything else I can upgrade on it?
/g/ doesn't do programming. I've worked with some really smart people, and the only ones who ever said "I use X, it's better for programming" are the ones who couldn't actually program.
If you're buying used, you may have to spend time getting a better battery. Some used ones come with batteries that only last 1/3 of what they originally did.
Almost every auction had listed, "battery holds charge but amount untested." Expect to pay more for whatever laptop your buying calculating a new battery in.
bought a t510 on fleabay on the 21st, still haven't received it or a tracking number. I'm a bit rustled.
>be the first in my office to get brand new W540
>feels flimsy, laptop isn't even heavy
>power brick weighs a metric asston somehow
>having to carry this heavy POS through airports and all over creation
The specs are awesome and it was exciting to unbox, but doesn't have a thinkpad feel to it.
As in whether you got TN or IPS?
Tilt your screen forward so you look at it from the top at a very steep angle. If the colors distort, you have a TN. If they stay roughly the same, it's an IPS.
It's easier to create an ideal, personalized environment because Linux is open source and more conducive to customization and choice.
>/g/ doesn't do programming
I do. You obviously do. We are /g/.
- Intel Core i5-2540M Processor
- 12.5" (1366 x 768)
- 256GB Solid State Drive (SSD)
- 6GB DDR3
- ExpressCard/54, SD Card Reader, Fingerprint Reader
- Classic "Think Lamp" & 7-Row Keyboard
- 9 Cell Battery (Upto 12hrs!)
It has an SSD and 9 cell so is the extra money justified? (guide says high 300)
I'm looking at getting T410. What's the maximum memory it can support? Most of what I've found says every version supports 8GB (2x4GB) but a few say the later versions also support 16GB (2x8GB).
9-cell battery is pretty standard, from what I've seen, majority of ThinkPads have the extended batteries.
250gb SSD is not worth $150. Even the good brand new ones aren't that much.
so I was supposed to be getting a t510 i7 8gb ram 500gb hdd for 260 off ebay, then today I get this, mind you I won auction and paid on the 21st
What should I do?
The B key has come off of my X200s and to reattach it you're supposed to hook it on the small hooks in pic related but they're bent down. Is it safe to bend them back?
T520 - ran without problems after updating the BIOS. The eGPU basically replaced the integrated nVidia and all functionality was present
T540p - not enough address space to allocate the eGPU. Had to kick the integrated Intel GPU from the address space for the eGPU to work in Windows. No picture on internal screen, but the external one works OK.
I'm looking into selling my T400. It has the 1440x900 display an switchable graphics. It comes with a Ultraby HDD adaptor and the docking station. It's in good condition, but has a small crack in the palm rest. Pretty standard hardware, 2.4 GHz C2D, 4GB RAM, 320GB HDD.
How much should I get for this?
x61t owner here
Is there anyway I can get the cursor on the screen to change from the arrow to a dot or something similar when I move the pen digitizer near the screen? Like how it works on windows.
Why the fuck would I pick some chinkpad over this business-class beauty
X201 because you can get an 8-cell battery for it (X220 and X230 only go up to 6-cell) and it has a 1280x800 (16:10) display as opposed to 1366x768 (16:9) which is super skinny in portrait mode.
Downsides is that most of them have low-voltage CPU's and it can't take mSATA SSD's.
Need some advice,bros. Last night I received "Fan Error" on my x220. Warranty expired earlier this year. What would be the best course of action? Some said replacing the fan works. Other say its a motherboard issue. The fan spins on power up then stops. Any recommendations if I chuck this one? I quiet enjoyed by x220 up until recently. Thanks.
Only the X61 tablet had the problem. The x60 did not use the problematic adhesive.
The problem always shows up after a given period of time. There is no way to repair the damage that's worth the time, I'm unaware of any way to prevent it.