ThinkPad General

>>43082440
Max your RAM and battery

>>43082685
Isn't the ram on the T4 series expensive?

>>43082440
i think you out bid me for that t420

T420 has one of the worst screens I've ever used.

>>43082725
It's just normal laptop RAM...

also, ultrabay hard drive caddy

What was the name of the seller you bought it from?

>>43082852
Oh, nevermind, it's just the T410 that has PC3-8500
;_;

>>43082867
not op but shop-arrow-direct was selling a bunch today at that price point

>>43082908
I was looking at them and there's another seller called arrow-direct-store. Are they the same?

>>43082440
>T420
>420
Something you want to tell us, anon?

>>43082789
It was a Buy It Now.

>>43082804
Have you used a W520? I am thinking of picking one up with a FHD screen. Wondering if it is decent for my animu.

>>43082867
pcparts2u

>>43082904
Actually it's most of the T4 series except the T420 that use that

>>43082953
I had a T520 which has the same screen a W520 would. It's a TN panel with shitty contrast and a wide gamut.
Yeah, re-read that a few times.
>TN
>Low contrast
>Wide gamut

ThinkPads have some of the worst fucking screens in a laptop outside of the IPS models, which are sadly limited to old hardware and/or 1366x768.

>>43082440

> with dedicated graphics

Hmm cool

> 1600x900

WTF /g/? Are we back to 2004?

>>43082971
Is there an IPS screen for the T420 that I can upgrade to?

>>43082986
No. The T4xx series is limited to awful 6-bit, extremely low contrast panels with awful colors and STATIC dithering.
They're business laptops, so I guess Lenovo figured businessmen don't give a shit about screen quality.

>>43082982
That's really the highest resolution they made the T420 in.

Oh well. It was cheap and it has a Sandy Bridge i5 so I'm not upset

>>43082440
Wow, that's a hell of a deal you got right there, nice.

I'm using a Dell Latitude E5430 I bought for like $600, it was the only decent laptop available in that moment so it was fine.

>>43083001

> $250
> for an old crap
> with a shitty screen
> ever

That's the real /g/!

>>43083100
>sandy bridge
>old

>>43083121

> not old

We are already in the 14nm era dude, welcome to the future!

>>43083156
no we aren't

>>43083100
>buying a new thinkpad

lwl

drawfag here, anyone with experiences when it comes to x series tablets' compatibility and utility with photoshop/sai/etc.?
was intending to get a non-tablet x series and just get a small wacom to go with it, but realized i might as well ask you guys first. youtubers' opinion is all over the place.

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>>43084318
I own an X220 Tablet, but I didn't really get a good experience with the digitizer yet because I had to send it in under warranty shortly after acquiring to get the display replaced because pressure sensitivity was fucked (also affected touch greatly, would jump around everywhere), see pic.

I couldn't find anyone online that had similar problems so I don't think it's something that should worry you.

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>>43084656
quick attempt at drawing Tomoko before I sent it off and I had turned pressure sensitivity entirely off, but it annoyed the shit out of me so I just gave up (. _.)

>>43084318

My x200t works fine for drawing

>>43082440
$250? Damn

That's a good deal.

How come T430 still goes for nearly 700

whats the difference between x220 and x230, which one should i get?

>>43085578
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X220

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X230

>>43085578
just the keyboard and one having slightly better processor graphics

>>43085578

x220 is slightly less shit than the x230

>which one should i get?

Neither, the x201 was the last good X series

>>43085629
>x201
Does those come with an i7?

>>43086013

Some do some don't

>>43082982

> Complaining about 1600x900

My daily use X60s is 1024x768

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>>43085629
>x201
pic related
>>43085606
yes, that and the x230 can only use proprietary batteries.

i can get a x220 - 8GB, 160GB SSD for $450...should i? or lurkmoar for x230 for muh hd4000 grafix?

>>43082804
>>43082986
>>43082999
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Replacing_T430_screen_with_a_better_one

>buying a thinkpad with greater specs than a T60

all you do is browse 4chan

>>43086096
Try to go for under $400. It's been done. Also X230s are far more expensive.

HD 3000 graphics are good enough for most uses anyway. Can play Source games pretty well if you get dual-channel RAM.

>>43086144
hey, an SXGA+ X61T is great for n00ds

>>43082440
Why get an mSATA SSD I don't understand? How big, how fast are they?

>>43086447
>Why get an mSATA SSD
so you can put a regular hd in the sata port for data storage.

>>43086096
Is there more to why the x201 is better?

I want to upgrade to an x220 from my T61 for the size and battery life. In what regard would an older x series model be better than the x220?

>>43086557
In a sense that the SSD speed is limited at 3 gigabytes per second with the x201, that could be better, depending on the way you think.
Also for an actual better thing, the x220 lost its awesome=looking screen bezel.

>>43083202
t420 isnt new
its 2 generations old

>>43086557
The x201 is better because:
>more blinky LEDs
>can use x200's palmrest
>smaller
>/g/ says so

I sold my x201 to get an x220. Apparently I'm not a 'thinkpad masterrace' fag anymore.

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>>43086557
>>Is there more to why the x201 is better?

not really. it's only 100-150 cheaper for inferior hardware. if you are a dedicated neckbeard than stop at x220 because muh keyboard and freer battery options.

>>43086664
I hate my x201. I use my old 1 GB ram t60p more than my 8gig ssd x201. You did gj selling this shit.

>>43082440
DO WANT! How do you think, shipment to Russia will strip me off or no?

>>43086939
I liked my x201, but yeah I prefer my x220.

>>43086557

>Is there more to why the x201 is better?

Cheaper
Alloy body
Better screen
Better keyboard
Better build quality

It's objectively better in every way but the processor, but the x201's processor is more than good enough anyway unless you play games or something

x220 is a thinkpad only by name, it has nothing in common with the brand

How well does a T61 handle 720p video?

>>43087124
The X220 also has an alloy body. And coming from someone who has owned both the build quality of both is excellent. Plus the X220 has IPS and still has the 7-row keyboard.

X230 is where it started falling apart. But even that isn't so bad compared to the monstrosity that is the X240.

>>43082440
>1600x900
>Huge upgrade

How does it feel to be so plebeian?

>>43087722
Mine has no problem with it, running W7

>>43086144
>only 3GB
>suddenly sticky
>suddenly guts
out-of-memory.tar.gz

>>43087124
>better screen
What. I can't even imagine a worse screen than what my X201 has.

Just got t430 with broken esc key.
Though that I would probably get new keyboard for it regardless so t430 keyboard or t420 keyboard?
If the only problems with t420 keyboard are that some irrelevant keys won't work (I used chromebook for year and it didn't even have fucking page up/down) I can live with it but does it fit well or do I have to force it or mod/cut some of it's corners?

>>43088082

Imagine the x201 screen but 16:9, that's the x220 screen

It's shit

>>43087124
There are things to pick at, but some of them aren't necessarily on the mark.
The X220 uses a magnesium alloy chassis as per all X series
The X201's panel is better in aspect ratio, however as a TN panel it's mediocre whereas the X220 has an IPS panel, albeit suffering with 1366x768
The keyboard is subject to shitstorm relating to the double height escape and delete keys along with key spacing
Build quality is a thing though. With the whole palmrest cracking and RF window bezel issue.

>>43088239
For a perfect fit, the palmrest from the T420 last I read

If luck serves me right I might be able to pick up a T510i for 185 euro today.

Does the W520 run linux okay? I've heard conflicting reports regarding compatibility issues.

I'm going to buy a T420 off ebay but one has an i5 with 2.5 GHz and another with an i7 with 2.7 GHz. Is there much of a difference where it's worth spending extra money?

What do you guys think about buying a 12 inch thinkpad with turntable screen and using it as a tablet for reading technical literature?

>>43089791
Depends on the content
For the X220t/X230t, in portrait mode the aspect ratio means that it's really skinny, though still somewhat usable.
Otherwise, the X200t/X201t are a bit better in that respect.

Although if you're using them purely for reading, they are kind of chunky in that respect. But for the first 2 models listed, the touchscreen is a bonus as most have it. In the latter 2, some models have touchscreens.

>>43086664
what specs did ur x201 have how much did u sell it for?, how do you like the x220?, is it a lot different from the x201?

>>43086939
why did u hate it?

>>43087111
hows the performance on the x220 much bigger then x201?

>>43090039
4GB Ram
I5 2.54GHz
120GB SSD
Sold it for 300 Australian dollaroos to a friend and got the x220 for 350 AUD (including shipping)
I really like the x220. It feels really nice to type on and no it isn't really different other than having less LEDs, screen on this is gorgeous.

>>43090066
I can play several 1080p webms on the screen with minimal stutter whereas the x201 stutters a bit. I wouldn't worry much about performance difference unless you plan on gaming which is kind of dumb since it's a business laptop.

If I put an msata SSD in my T510, can I still use both it's sata ports for a 2,5" hdd?

>>43091330
nope

>>43082982
you're not going to be a real hardcore haxor if your screen is high resolution

Does any of following TP models have good internal design (well designed HSF for example) and good build quality: T42, T42p, T60, T60p, T61 and T61p?
If you answer yes, then you dont know shit, because last well designed and built ThinkPad sold on consumer/"business" market was made in early 2000s.
Aside from IBM internal testing units of several models, which had much better build quality than the final product, none of T series laptops are well build or even designed. T20 was already crap compared to any 600 series model quality wise.
For shitty design example, every T series laptop has inadequate cooling and the units are literally frying pans. T60/p really takes the cake with shitty HSF design, GPU and and NB are always on fire, not to speak of VRAM, which is not cooled at all.

>>43091330
T510 doesn't support mSATA.

>>43091530
Would you say the Latitude E6400 is a good internal design? It's certainly much easier to work on than any Thinkpad.

>>43091935
>much easier to work on than any ThinkPad
>takes 4 screws to remove keyboard
>my ThinkPads only take 2 screws

What's a good price for a used T420 off ebay with a 1600x900 display. The seller is arrow-direct-store are they any good?

>>43092166
It also has an i7

My buddy needs a laptop for school, and while I've succeeded in keeping him from buying a preplanned obscolecense consumer grade plastibox, he isn't ready to jump ship to the used thibkpad market yet.

Would a e420 be a good purchase? He seems to think so.

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can you put one of those 1080p x230 screens in an x220? I'm finding conflicting reports.

>>43092273
do you mean edge e420?
there is edge e145, it has 11" and it looked really nice, especially the battery life.
Right now is coming out new amd kaveri/beema edges
edge e445 or e545 but generally e series is shit

>>43092330
What's shit about the E series? Can't be as bad as Ls.

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>tfw want x220 but the resolution is so low
life is suffering.

Does anyone know of a good place to buy a replacement x220 9-cell battery without having to shell out $80 on amazon?

>>43092460
It's not THAT bad... you can also upgrade the screen apparently.

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>>43092479
>It's not THAT bad...
it really is, my phone has a 1080p screen.

Anyone here ever try a dell latitude e6320?
How does it compare to the x220/t420?

i want a thinkpad with a serial port, parallel port, and high res screen.

Damn, I paid around 400 for my T410... Though it does have an SSD

>>43092521
So does mine but I still manage to not get my panties in a twist over the sub1080 resolution on my x200.

Go try one in real life. I guarantee you won't care anymore.

>>43092521
>wants a laptop made in 2011
>uses a phone made in 2014

Upgrade the fucking screen or stop bitching pleb

>>43092576
>Upgrade the fucking screen
there's no replacement 1080p screens for it, and chinkpads made in 2014 are complete garbage.

>>43092586

What's the new Thinkpad then? Are Dell's business laptops worth the money?

>>43092618
probably the dell latitudes, they've always been an okay replacement for thinkpads.

What's the best thinkpad in the 11"-12" size?

>>43092631

None of the hardware is soldered right? Don't think that's a stupid question in 2014 capitalist America.

dont know shit disclaimer:

i was using an old thinkpad t60p as an htpc.

fan error.

want to buy a new one and just throw the old one away but cant find the exact model i used to have (want to use the same peripherals/spot in my house)

productid sticker says 2613hqu

>>43092670
Couldn't tell you.
>>43092661
x-series, x201 or x220 is the most common. I think x230 and newer are chinkpads.

>>43092631

Anyway, just looked at the Dell site and the Precision and Lattitudes are all insanely prices compared to a T540p.

>>43092661
Best bang for your buck? X200
Last "true" thinkpad? X220
Like to draw? X61t w/ x60t's1400x1050 panel

Pretty happy with my T510i, bought it from someone today for 175 euro. Still gonna upgrade to a 250GB SSD and maybe 8GB of ram.

My HP Elitebook 8440p had overheating issues even after cleaning the fan and replacing the cooling paste and remounting the heatsink.It had a first gen i5 as well, but my Thinkpad stays around 35 degrees idle while my HP would have been around 50 degrees. And it's hot as fuck outside too.

>>43092706

anyone?

pls respond.

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e6220, 2560p, or x220?
the x220 is about $100 more expensive than the other two, and the e6220 doesn't come with a trackpoint by default I'd have to buy a replacement keyboard.

Really leaning towards the 2560p.

>>43092706
Replace the fan or it needs a good dusting, or heck it might not even be connected.

>>43092712
I was customizing a Dell M4800 and it came out to be around $2000
On eBay there were a few samples that were $1600 which had the QHD+ and quad core cpu that I really wanted

>>43092851
Get the 2560p

>>43092829
>>43092706

In relation to this --

All thinkpad's use VGA's right? So it actually shouldnt matter and I should just get the cheapest one.

I upgraded the RAM on the t60P as well -- which thinkpads use the same RAM?

>>43084318
I have an x200t from before they accepted multi-touch so it is great because I can rest my hand on the screen easily

>>43092861

thank you sir. going to open it up and give it a shot.

GUYS, where can I find a thinkpad keyboard? So only the bottom part of a thinkpad. I've seen it in some pictures.

>>43092885
ebay

>>43092867
>All thinkpad's use VGA's right?
what

newer ones sure have other connectors, and some older ones support DVI via a dock

using a t60p as a htpc sounds a bit...silly, tho. are those even capable of running high quality video? (10 bit 1080p, for example)

>>43092851
I was considering a 2560p at one point, but then I learned that the dock does not have DVI, while the ThinkPad docks do have DVI.

>>43092942

i had the thinkpad laying around collecting dust, i had no other use for it so i said what the hell. and it changed my life. i know its a bit silly but I dont want to drop $250 on buying the parts to build an actual HTPC.

figure i may try to open it up and fix the fan error myself or spend another $100 bucks or so for a replacement thinkpad.

>>43092721
>x220
>true thinkpad

>>43092945
That's not really a dealbreaker for me as I doubt I'll even use the dock.
Is there anything else that put you off? I can get a 2560p for about $200.

>>43093063
>shitposting

my x200 complains that wifi has been "switched off by hardware switch". The wireless switch is on and bluetooth / usb wifi works though.

I have tried multiple different mpcie wifi cards (i installed BIOS whitelist) but none of them has worked! All return the same error. And since the x200 has 3 different mpcie slots I have tried all of them - but no help, mpcie wifi STILL doesn't work. What gives?

>>43093133
>16:9 768p screen
>decreased build quality
>throttling and overheating
>Intel AMT

>>43093077
Not really, I was just looking for something for my sister and she said she wanted a docked setup like I do with my ThinkPad. But I didn't want to force her into using VGA and DisplayPort monitors are usually expensive... So lack of DVI was kind of the deal breaker.

But there's also no middle mouse button for the trackpoint and there's stupid little nubs on the top of the palm rest just underneath the keyboard that are supposed to be there to protect the screen, but I find them extremely annoying from experience with other EliteBooks.

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>1366x768 resolution still exists

>>43091530
I'm going for an R60 chassis for frankenpadding because it is thicker and it heats less.

>>43093179
I heard a lot of x200 had defective switch, try to find a way to fix it maybe?

>>43093209
>16:9 768p screen
Fair enough, but you can actually replace the screen for a better one. Not ideal, but the option is there.

>decreased build quality
>citation needed

>throttling and overheating
Not if you use an 90W AC adapter and clean/apply thermal paste.

>Intel AMT
Can easily be disabled in the BIOS.

What distro do you recommend for my new(ish) t60 with 1 gig ram?

Ideally I want everything to work as smoothly as possible (hotkeys and all).

Something like Xubuntu / Lubuntu? or Puppy, even?

>>43092972
>>43092883
>>43092867
>>43092861

couldnt fix the fan error on my t60p. opened it up. dusted, checked the connections. re-booted. 2 beeps and shut down. i sad.

>>43092883
Best of luck, my first Thinkpad, the x61T had that error. I was lucky all it took was some dusting. I haven't came across one where the fan doesnt work.

>>43093209
I havent heard of overheating issue but holy fuck the palmrest on a X61 says otherwise.

>>43093345
I thought this would of been great too, but the R61 has a different heatsink, you'll have to remove fins from a T60/61 for it to fit, it is smaller on one part. It does look durable still, the standard fan on an R60 seems like shit as well. Oh and sadly R60's didn't come with IPS panels, so I have a 15" Non-IPS SXGA+ screen heuheu

>>43093427
I use Linux Mint on my A31p, mostly the bottleneck is the CPU, ram doesn't go above 700mb I think, but the CPU i got is a 1.7GHz.
ElementaryOS on the T43p, works well and seems to have good battery life, almost 3 hours. Yeah I paid $80 for it and its UXGA display has yellowing on the corners but it is solid.

>>43093561
Thats balls man.

real reason to get x-series tablets is for they IPS screens yo

>>43093561
try putting1~2 drops of motor oil in the bearings and see if that helps

Guys I'm thinking about buying a T400 with the Intel Core2Duo P8600( 3M Cache, 2.40GHz, 1066Mhz FSB) with 1440 x 900 res and 4 gigs of ram for about 200$, does it work well with linux?

>>43093799
Too expensive. Get t410 for this cash.
But to yours question: gpu doesn't work well with anything. Flash kills your browsing experience, even when blocked html5 does.
Didn't check on 3.16 tho

>>43093628
Sucks that the X60 had the best IPS display, X61T suffers from the screen bubbles and it has "speckles" for the glue that they used.

I've had an X200T with multitouch and at wide angles it would get blurry a bit, somewhat disapointed. My XGA X61T was great other then the 'bad' screen res. Fuck I need a pen and battery for my unit.

>>43093799
I sold a T400 for $140 or $120 I think with a P8400 CPU, integrated graphics and a WXGA+ screen from a T61. I want to say it is a bit much, not knowing what country you are buying from.

I'm not sure how linux works with switchable graphics, I heard its not good.

>>43093799
If you're going to be doing any CAD work make sure you get something with discrete graphics. Even with RoyalBNA I can't get much horsepower out of the 4500MHD graphics. I guess they're sort of fine for office work and whatnot, but I wish I had the Mobility Radeon 3470 instead.

Will a t440s in practice have a shorter battery life in general use if it has a dedicated graphics card?

Which ThinkPad for gaming?

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>>43094249
Get something supporting the ultrabay. Get an ultrabay with it and some GPU.

Yes integrated graphics are more power efficient.

>>43094408
Well i can turn it off at least, right?

>>43094458
Sometimes, you would have to make sure that it has Nvidia Optimus, which automatically switches to integrated. But if there is no integrated graphics, then you would be stuck with the Nvidia.

I don't know anything about Thinkpads, I need something small.
It'll might be used for note taking, typing, and other shit. I want to try my hand at Ubuntu and maybe another OS.
Any recs ?

>>43094769
Get a MBA

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>>43094769
X201t like the one I have.

>>43094867
x201t are so much sexier than x220t, I'm jelly

>>43094885
What's wrong with x220t?

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>>43094900
Well, it doesn't have a latch and its screen buttons look different, oh and while I don't use the trackpad I would've still preferred a non clickpad design
(pic related isn't mine, I'm not at home right now)

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>>43094769
http://www.ktgee.net/post/49423737148/thinkpad-guide

http://yttrium-tyclief.github.io/guides/Thinkpads/

Look at X-series, they are "ultraportables" and are the smallest and lightest of the recommended ThinkPads.

Probably an X201 would suite you just fine for a few years easily. Maybe consider the convertible tablets too if you need to hand-write the notes.

>>43094975
Looks fine to me.
>clickpad design
Can you elaborate on that? The touchpad looks fine.

>>43094867
why x201t over just a x201?

>>43095039
Note taking, drawing.

>>43082971
The FHD panel on the W520 isnt that bad...

>>43095032
Notice there is no dedicated trackpad buttons like there is on the X201, because they are embedded into the bottom part of the trackpad, you push down on the trackpad, it clicks, left and right click.

>>43095032
Yeah it still looks good, I don't regret buying it at all.
Well, it doesn't have separated buttons like yours, you push the trackpad to left/right click. (I'd say half to 3/4 of the trackpad is clickable)
But it doesn't seem to be nowhere near as bad as the newest generation's clickpad, this one is still quite good.

>>43095107
>>43095119
Wouldn't bother me I think.

>>43082982
normal laptops have way smaller than that dude. 1360x768 is the moist common laptop res. its kinda sad phones now have higher res screen than laptops because most of the consumer base doesn't give a fuck.

I found X220 Tablet with i7 and multitouch for 700 ameribucks. Should I get it?

>>43095286
Mine have a i5 and I paid it 470€, I think you could get it cheaper than that it america

>>43095328
In USA sure, but I'm in eastern Europe.

>>43095286
I got mine for $350, except had an i5-2520m. Getting an mSATA SSD for it soon...

I wanna get the X1 Carbon 2014 ultrabook but its expensive as fuck

>>43095451
poorfag

>>43095344
Buying thinkpad from america involve high shipping and tax rates, mine came from Great Britain and I saw a lot of other units from there or from germany

>>43094867
>>43094996
I'm on there website right now, a lot of them seem to use Windows 8.

>>43095710
Don't buy from lenovo, search on ebay and stick to X W and T series

>>43095793
>ebay
bout newegg ?
I'm looking at the X and S series. Pros/cons of the S series ?

>>43095846
>buying from resellers

it's like you hate your money

>>43095846
newegg will most likely have higher prices
I don't know a lot about the S series, but straying from the X/W/T series usually condemn you to shittier build quality

>>43095868
>resellers
I don't know anything about /biz/
Why only ebay though ?

>>43095915
Reseller is someone that buys secondhand ThinkPads from either private sellers or businesses, wipes the lid clean, blows the dust out, and reinstalls the OS and then sells it for +$100 profit.

Better to skip the middle man in the first place and get it for cheaper.

Also, craigslist if you live in a fairly populated area.

>>43094249
W500 does gud enough for LoL
An anon had a T420 with the best graphics card available for it and reported better results for newer games
I game on a W700ds, haven't played Skyrim but it looks like it may do OK with either medium or in high.

>>43095846
Regarding build quality and serviceability, I think S series is the sencond lowest tier right next to the Edge/E series.
An L series is better I think, not sure about LCD replacing on those, so don't ask.
>had an SL400c
>absoulutely the worst Thinkpad I had opened up
>twas like an consumer HP or acer laptop inside with its ribbon cables and had to take out alot more bezels for the damn LCD hinges

>>43095963
>be a reseller
I normally resell via auction, sold a W500 for $240 when they go for that without a garantee on a battery or OS.
Craigslist is just as expensive, given those people are selling their own laptop they paid good money for.
Also
>laptop is broken, bad screen, dead battery, gum chew on it
>some POS Pentium 4 lappy
>selling it for parts someone knows how to fix this
>$60

>>43092330
I have the E540, which is an E545 but with an Intel processor instead of an AMD one. Aside from the questionable design of the trackpad (which. if I recall correctly, the E545 has a classic style trackpad) the edge series is fine.

>>43092552
I would recommend a T61 with Intel video. Look for one with the 1920x1200 panel. To have serial and parallel ports you will need this accessory:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Ultrabay_Slim_Serial/Parallel_Port_Adapter

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>>43082440
OP I bought a T420 on ebay. I would recommend maxing it out with 8gb ram, getting an ssd, and getting an ultrabay hard drive caddy. I did these things, this computer is unstoppable. I only have integrated graphics, but with dedicated it should be even better!

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>>43097130
>8gb RAM
>max

>>43097328
Wait, it can take more? Lenovo said that max 8gb was supported.

>>43097910
whats the max ram you can put in a x201 , right now i got 8GB

>>43097910
At the time you could only order them from Lenovo with 8gb max, but it supports 16gb.

>>43098061
First gen Core-i max is 8gb.

How much should I spend on a used T420?

>>43098708
Depends on the specs and how much you want it as soon as possible.

>>43098802
i5 2.5 GHz
320GB HDD
8GB Ram
1600x900 Display

>>43098844
<$300

>>43087124
>Better screen
Mine is pretty awful, I'm going to get a 1080p one soon.
>Unless you play games
I can actually run Killing Floor on lowest settings at about 40 FPS so it isn't that bad.

When buying on ebay is there really a difference between used and refurbished or will it all be the same quality? I just bought on used and not sure if I should have looked for a refurbished one

>>43099241
really depends on how lucky you are. I once bought a refurbished T410 that was nearly new as well as the battery. On the other hand, I also bought a "refurbished" X200 tablet that was probably saddest piece of tech I've ever seen. Covered in dust and many broken components which wasn't mentioned in the listing

>>43099241
"refurbished" is just a buzzword

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>>43082951
that the T430s mark the beginning of the end of the thinkpad brand

So I know T series is going to shit, but what about the X series? Is that still safe?

>>43100653
>Is that still safe?
nope, shit also. they made the x240 weaker then the x230 and the i7 x220 because of muh thinness

>>43100722
Welp, I have no idea what I'm going to do in a few years when the last non-shit T and X series are ancient.

>tfw I paid like $430 for a T420 with the dual core i7, 8GB of RAM, Nvidia GPU and 1600x900.

I don't really regret it. You just got a really good deal I think.

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Question: Buy this, or a mechanical?

>>43100994
Not sure if troll or retarded....

>>43100994
Six months ago I would've said to get that over a mechanical. My best typing speed of 146wpm was on a chiclet keyboard, but about a month ago at a LAN party I finally passed it on my mechanical and got 147wpm. 1wpm might sound stupid, but when the speeds are that high it's a pretty big deal. It restore my faith in mechanicals.

On the other hand, a mechanical is just another keyboard that will feel better. That keyboard has mouse function, something not common in keyboards. It might be more worthwhile to get that. I don't know if I'd specifically recommend the Bluetooth or wired version, but I've been meaning to get one of those myself.

>>43100994
That layout kinda bugs me. I don't like the function key on the left, it just fucks up. I would put Fn where Print Screen is. I basically want one of these keyboards with the CM Quickfire Rapid layout.

>>43100994
that looks like it has really shitty key travel for being just a keyboard, like it's just a laptop keyboard

>>43101155
That's the point. It's supposed to be like the new ThinkPad keyboards. I think it's mostly for HTPCs.

>>43092283
x230 didn't come with a fhd option. If you mean the x240, it won't work unless you steal the eDP line from the docking port and mod the BIOS, which has only really been performed by leokim and is much too involved for most anons.

>>43092670
No, but the good Latitudes (read: E series) all have shit screens.
Dell did some brand melding and killed off the Vostro line of laptops and integrated them in the Latitude line. But while they have higher res screens they're still shit build quality wise and a lot of them have ULV, so they should be avoided.

Hey guys, what's a good guide to replace the mobo on a nonwidescreen t60?

>>43101589
The Good Latitudes are the E6000 series.
The E7000 series are Ultrabooks.
The E5000 and others are budget shit.

>>43082440
What thinkpad would be good for using aircrack-ng ?
I recently took a class and now I'm interested in playing around with Aircrack-ng.

>>43097328

>that temp

hahahahahahah enjoy your laptop for another 3 months.

>>43101881
I'm guessing you would be better off with 3 wireless antennas rather than 2, so you should look for something with an Intel Ultimate-N 6300 card, which would be 1st and 2nd gen Core-i.

>>43102026
not everyone does nothing on their computers

Found a L530i for $500, could probably negotiate lower cuz craigslist. How come I don't see a lot of W series love? That seemed like my preference, though I don't see many cheap.

Anyone have that picture of the X200/X201 being held by the screen?

>>43102046
>Intel Ultimate-N 6300 card
finally someone helps me.

I'll look into it, any other suggestions ?

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>>43102165
I've deducted that it is an X200 because of the Core 2 Duo sticker.

>>43102225
Well Lenovo has wifi cards whitelisted, so it's difficult to swap them out, don't assume you can gimp out on it and just upgrade it later, because it's complicated. Also I'm unsure if they provided a third antenna for the 2 antenna models.

I don't know if WLAN/WWAN cards would be useful to you at all, but those are also whitelisted, I think. But even if the slot is empty, it does come with the antennas.

apart from that much, see >>43094996

>>43102393
>whitelisted
Jews

>>43102235
As well as the 'X200' printed on the lid.

>>43102393
I'm really only interested in buying a thinkpad or netbook for Aircrack-ng and learning how to linux.
Everything else is secondary.

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I was a long time looking for thinkpads on my country (Chile, South America), and I finally found some. Tomorrow monday I will get my first Thinkpad (x200) for 130 USD approximately (I couldn't buy it from outside my country, shipping costs from ebay are too high)

Was it a good deal? Is there any good upgrade I can make to it? Pic unrelated

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>>43102798
are you trying to tell me that this is legible to you?

>>43102837
that's pretty good

also, SSD is the best upgrade you could ever do

>>43102937
I read at the Thinkwiki that it can support up to 128GB SDD. That's pretty cool, thanks anon!

>>43103008
That's just what options were available at the time.

You can put any size SSD in it.

>>43103008
Waaaaait. Not him, but I'm positive that they will accept larger ones. It's great you did your research, by the way. But the Wiki means that that's the largest Lenovo shipped them with. You can fit in a larger one.

>>43103106
>>43103116
Thanks /g/uys. You have been a great help on this months of researching.

>>43082440
get an elgato and play xbone at native res

>>43094867
Yo, what flavor mountain dew is that? That doesn't look like an American release.

>>43102235
>no trackpad
no shit its a x200

>>43103225
The trackpad was optional on X201's.

>>43102235
that's a x200s nigga

I've got a X201

HDD: 1TB Samsung EVO SSD (Someone thought it would be a good birthday gift)
RAM: 4GB
CPU: 560M
Battery: 6 Cell
Screen: Default one

How can I upgrade this or should I just sell it and get something better. I just need something that will last long for College.

>>43094812
What, I'm not in college.

>>43103521
well at least you won't need to buy a new SSD for the next 15 years as long as you don't abuse it heavily

>>43103521
it should be obvious based on your major whether or not you need something better for college.

On my t60, I replaced the mobo, and while it boots, and works with an external monitor...
The internal monitor seems fucked.
I plugged it in to test it, and everything was completely garbled.
Pressing on the cable heavily changes the image, so is it safe to say the problem is the cable, and to replace that?

I keep seeing "no hdd caddy" mentioned on ebay auctions for thinkpads without a hdd. Do I need a hdd caddy to install my own ssd?

Replaced the fan in my thinkpad x61t and it is running great now.
I am trying to restore it to blank windows 7 but also want to put a linux distro on here what is the best one that I will have easy setup support for the touch pen?

>>43103627
They're like 5 bucks and will accept any harddrive the thinkpad will accept. Considering the connector, I think you *can* just kind of slide it in there, but there won't be anything holding it in.

>>43103615
I'm doing Computer Science

>>43103627
No, You can put it in there but it'll be loose so if you move the laptop around, the ssd can disconnect. But you can make a makeshift one by sticking a card to make it stay in place whilst you wait for your hdd caddy

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>>43103658
>>43103681
thanks

>>43103665
you don't need something better for college

>>43082440
See another one on ebay like that?

>>43103734
Hmm, I see. How about getting a bigger screen like 15". Is there a T series equalivent to the X201 or X220

>>43103822
bigger screens are overrated. 12 to 13 inches is the best combination of size and portability imo. plug your computer into a large screen on your desk at home and or use it as a dual monitor setup.

>>43103891
Ok, thank you very much, man.

>>43082440
Should I keep using the ThinkPad Windows 7 version or get a clean version? Just got my ThinkPad and I see a lot of people do not take off the modified version of 7. Is there a reason for this. By modified I mean SimpleTap and the other programs that come preinstalled.

>>43082440
Damn, only $250? Is that a great price, or is that normal? I have an x220 and the IPS panel is getting these horrible white spots all over it, and the ethernet port is broken... shit is completely whack. I'd also like a larger screen. Is the T420 a good choice in that case? I'm surprised it's so damn cheap.

>>43104088
install an OS that respects your freedom

>>43104098
according to this that was a very good price

http://www.ktgee.net/post/49423737148/thinkpad-guide

anyone got multiple monitors hooked to an x-series, or pics of such?

Added the first half of the 'building a LED backlight driver onto an existing Thinkpad inverter board' page:
https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/thinkpad/led-inverter.shtml

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I need a laptop for school.

Which ThinkPad will let me process word documents in background while I play games?

Also I might be programming.

>>43103616
Bad connection probably. Open it up and reseat the cable.

>>43104088
Lenovo sometimes includes battery-saving tweaks you won't be able to get in the stock install. Installed clean Windows 7 on my X220 and battery life plunged from 10-11 hours to 6-7.

>>43104619
Trying with it open, no amount of pushing around or shit gets it normal, bad cable?

I've been here before, when I was having issues with my T60p's GPU overheating.

I used the copper penny trick with AS5.

Anyways, it was running pretty hot recently, so I cleaned it with alcohol and applied new thermal gel, still AS5.

I've also done something I can't remember that allows me to set the fan at full speed with

echo level disengaged | sudo tee /proc/acpi/ibm/fan

.

Still,

cat /proc/acpi/ibm/thermal

gives:

temperatures:    74 44 42 88 50 -128 33 -128 51 63 63 -128 -128 -128 -128 -128

Apparently, the 4th is the GPU, which shuts itself off at 100. It's better than the 95 I had earlier today, but what's wrong?

Did I possibly wear my already probably tired fan out? Should I invest in a new one? How much should I expect to pay for one if I should? Could someone recommend a seller if I should?

My R50's good at not overheating, but it's slow as molasses.

>>43088254
>Imagine the x201 screen but 16:9, that's the x220 screen
>It's shit
except it's objectively better because it's higher resolution.
1280x800 is crap and only good for watching 720p video letterboxed with zero scaling in fullscreen. I would rather use the old 1024x768 screen, they don't feel as miniscule as 1280x800.

>>43104649
Most of it should presumably in the lenovo power manager and the power management driver

Why everyone likes Lenovo and Thinkpads?

>>43104926
Hey latios, think replacing the monitor cable will fix a screen that is completely garbled, and what it displays changed heavily when I move it.
I think the lcd setup was working prior to replacing the mobo, and the mobo vga works.
It was diffidently working prior to my gpu breaking.

>>43104808
>higher resolution
>objectively better

at a certain DPI higher resolutions become a negative

1280x800 at 12 inches is great

>>43104979
I'd rather 2600 by 1700

>>43104941
because they are (were) the anti-apple

>>43104991
really just were now.

>>43104976
Well there aren't many other places that could cause that besides dodgy connections

>>43104990
1920 x 1080 is basically my reasonable limit for a laptop of a reasonable size

>>43105009
Alright.
It's cheap, so I'll give it a shot.
I just hope somthing like the panel or the inverter didn't fry.

I think I can sorta make some stuff out if I position it just right, but it's still really messed up, and when it shifts, it oftens slides like a film reel through the screen.
Can't really think of a better way to describe it.

>>43105036
The inverter wouldn't do it. It's most likely a slightly mis-seated connection at the mobo or behind the LCD. The cables are actually really tough.

>>43105013
With scaling, everything looks just as big as a lower res screen, and text looks beautiful.
Only thing that doesn't scale properly for me, (using ubuntu unity) so far has been steam, and the firefox menu bar, which I rarely touch.
Everything else scales perfectly.

>>43105062
Huh.
So should I keep trying to get it in, and hope it works?
It also came loose while powered up, I hope that wouldn't cause a problem.

Picking up a new t440s soon.
What should i watch out for?

>>43105087
Naw, popping loose when powered shouldn't hurt it.

>>43105095
Alright.

Tomorrow I'll try seating it a bunch more.
Any tips for this?

>>43105091
everything

>>43105107
Don't force anything. So long as you don't force anything, or like, drop a static charged cat into the open machine, you should be fine.

>>43105134
Yeah, just lightly pressing it in, no SMASH.

>>43105156
Right. Even when it feels like it clicked in OK, sometimes it's not seated properly, or maybe some dirt is in a contact. The screen rolling like you described is definitely just a connection problem though.

>>43105176
Even if it's completely garbled?
Either way, it'll be great if it works.
Would spraying some canned air be a good idea?

Thanks for all the help, I was about to order a new cable and try replacing it, and I know that's a bitch.

What's the best true ThinkPad

>>43105222
T430

>>43105189
could still be the cable... but it makes sense to check the connections first.

>>43082440
I've always wondered, what's with the blue key next to the volume keys?

>>43105423
Dedicated button to enter bios, and in windows, bound to bring up the shitty thinkpad software center by default.
Can of course bind it to whatever.

>>43105222
W520 is best combination of modern power without gay apple feel (chiclet keyboard, muh thinness over function etc).

I have a 1400 x 1050 T60 I love this 4:3 screen.
A shame most common laptops use 1366 x 768 16:9.
It still has some juice though. I think one more year of use and then I will buy another laptop.

>>43105475
I'm gonna put this out here.
Chromebook Pixel.
They go used for fairly cheap.
(I got mine for 600), and it's pretty much the only modern square (5:4) laptop out there.

Main problem is giving up the clit, and moving to a worse keyboard.
You can install full ubuntu or whatever distro on it as well.

What's the next logical upgrade from a x200's screen?

>>43105498
>Chromebook Pixel
Looks compact, I like it. Thanks Anon will definitely look for one when ditching the T60.

>>43105528
No problem.
I just recently upgraded from my t60 to it.
Main concern is the battery life is still just 6-7 hours if that, but whatever, it wasn't a big deal with the t60, still isn't a major problem.
The other main concern is the clit.
A touchpad just isn't the same.
Other than that, it's one of the few laptops that puts the t60s screen to shame.
It's just a beautiful, full, screen.

>>43105431
Oh sweet, my mother used to have one as her work laptop. If i remember right it was the X60, i loved that thing a lot.

Then my college got one (X201i), but it took 1 week for them to fuck it up completely. Of course the manufacturer was blamed

>>43099631
I think the reply he wanted was to #blazeit

>>43105498
Seriously, the 32gb ssd is non replaceable and is soldered on the mobo? Fucking google. The Pixel would have been perfect if the storage is changeable.

>>43105763
Ah, I suppose that is something worth mentioning.
It's actually 32 or 64 gigs.
I got a 64 gig model.
Combine that with an sd card slot, which can add a nice 128 gigs of media storage, and I hadn't even considered that a problem.

But yeah, if you need lots and lots of space, it could absolutely be a problem.

>>43105837
Ram is another thing, but 4 gigs is enough for me.
It'd be nice if more modern computers had a screen like that, but sadly, the pixel is pretty unique in that regard.

>>43105837
how the battery life holding up? Still good?

>>43105890
I got is used, (It's a launch model also), and the battery is still at some 97% original charge.
I doubt it'll be a problem for quite a while, and it is possible to replace the battery, and there are some on ebay.
Wouldn’t be nearly as easy as a t60.

Another pro, it has a sim card slot, so I can pop my phones sim card in and not have to tether for data.
This only works with shitty verizon sadly.

>>43104362
Only one 22"

>>43104362
I've done it before, works fine.
Why?
Any particular concerns?

>>43103219
It tasted kind off lemony. I didn't know there are other flavors. I'm in Poland.

>>43106250
What material is this?

>>43106276
Thinkpad.

>>43106102
Thinkpadowy bracie - fajny stol : )

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>>43106276
google carbon fiber vinyl on ebay

>>43104770
futile bump

>>43106464
To enable fan control, set fan=1 in thinkpad_acpi module options. Is that what you want?

>>43106512
Well, no. I've already done that. It's just that my GPU's been running a hot after just replacing the thermal paste.

I was wondering how common high temperatures are, even after replacing the thermal pad with the copper penny and other settings.

>>43106552
Um.. pennies are made of zinc, which is a crappy thermal conductor. And they're bumpy and make poor contact. Why would you think that would work??

>>43106552
hard to say, like, if you have the correct heatsink and the HSF isn't bent in any way, yeah there is something we are missing, probabaly OS dependant bt even then its hard to know.


what model do you havwe and what CPU and GPU model you got>?

>>43100732
Put a cellphone faster than any older ThinkPad inside a gutted shell of one, and make it work with the panel, keyboard, ThinkLight and UltraNav.

>>43106863
...you think the ARMs in cellphones are even as powerful as a Pentium M?

>>43107221
In the future Anon, when they should be faster.
If they are not then, your ThinkPad will not be obsolete.
For now, go grab a T61 Intel motherboard and mod it to accept a quadcore CPU. Install 8GB and you are set for a while.

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>>43086096
found a x230 for 500 - 160 ssd, 9cell. 4gb,

did i do good? though i think panel is tn though because contract bleed at angels.

>>43107299
>For now, go grab a T61 Intel motherboard and mod it to accept a quadcore CPU.
The chipset is unable to boot any quadcore.

>>43107381
From what I know aside from the keyboard you should be good
The price seems pretty good too

Can an X200s handle my 1080p Chinese cartoons?

>>43101803
In principle, the Hardware Maintenance Manual for your model, unless you want to perform some kind of modding with parts from other ThinkPads.

>>43102837
Yes, because if this was the best price for you then it's alright. Besides, it is a great model, you won't regret it.

>>43107697
>1080p
>on a 1280x800 screen
But anyway, yes.

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>>43104520
hey man I done fucked up. The top of the IC broke off and I can't get the guts off the board. If I heat it any more I'll damage the board, it's looks pretty crispy already. Can I leave it there?

>>43104523
A W series with discrete graphics.

>>43104770
How far are you willing to go?
Short version, you can use a fan assembly from an nVidia T61 with a T500 fan. Start reading here and follow the links:
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=101788

>>43107871
All the leads are off? Yeah, just leave it there.

>>43107871
You take some really nice pics, BTW. Is it a point and shoot with a good macro, or do you have something bigger with Serious Glass?

>>43108041
yeah, the legs are off (see >>43107871
)
Also thanks and sorry if I come off a bit short right now, soldering these tiny ass things get frustrating.

>>43107402
Crazy German and Chinese people managed to mod the planar, extract the BIOS section and reflash the RAM SPD so that installing a 1066MHz FSB CPU is possible.
ACHTUNG, read the whole thing thrice before even thinking of trying it.
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=110620

>>43108233
I find it easiest after one Red Bull and two beers.

>>43108180
lel, it's an old canon point and shoot A630 and yeah, macros tend to come out pretty fine. I bet if I knew anything about photography I'd be able to do even better. There are even some custom firmwares for this thing.
The auto settings suck tho, so custom shutter, aperture, focus, ISO etc.
Also, this thing is unusable in shit lighting.

>>43106685
Before 1982 they were made of copper.

>>43108298
Interesting! But it looks like it quickly hits the same limitations I did when overclocking the X61s and X61T-- the machine runs out of both VRM and especially thermal headroom pretty much the instant you exceed the original spec.
So you can do it, but there's no point because it starts throttling hard as soon as you do.

>>43108299
well tough luck since I don't drink either.

>>43108298
Extract the BIOS section from a more re ent model

>>43108371
Oh, they can be fantastic for macro. My wife is seriously into photographing beetles, and she carries a point and shoot instead of a DSLR.

>>43108383
You have 100W of CPU consumption to play before the thing shuts down. Yhat is way more than standard.

>>43108450
I doubt you have anywhere near 100W of TDP.

>>43108458
(or do you? It looks to have about twice the HS area as the X61s, and the Xs can only maintain about 30W total dissipation split between GPU and CPU)

>>43108376
It's a bronze (95% copper, 5% zinc) with about 1/5th the thermal conductivity of pure copper. That's still pretty good, but it leaves three questions...
Did Anon use such a penny, did he lap it, and did he remember to use thermal compound on both sides?