Hey /g/, what Linux distro within this three on picrel meets these requirements the best?
- is not bloated
- works well on most notebooks (and doesn't burn your CPU)
- supports many programming languages, especially new like Go, Rust etc.
- has big repo and doesn't force you to compile every package
- is relatively stable due to freshness of packages
- can be configured nicely and almost everything can be suited for your personal needs
Feel free to add other distros.
>I don't want bloat
>I want pre-installed languages
>I don't want to compile stuff myself
>I want unlimited customization
why cant i find a distro that plays nice with my desktop?
debian is a little too outdated
fedora lacks fglrx support and for some reason refuses to install GRUB to any of my drives
slackware comes with LILO, which causes my system to refuse to even boot for some reason
opensuse installer doesnt even support encrypting your OS partitions
mints repos have gone full retard each time ive used it
same with ubuntu
kubuntu is a broken piece of shit
fuck the BSDs too
also, can arch be used in any way that prevents it from becoming a complete and utter waste of time? its the one distro i havent tried yet
After your initial setup, arch is probably simpler to keep running than any of the others thanks to the huge amount of information out there on its wiki and mailing lists. If you plan on installing a de then the setup shouldn't take more than a few hours following the guides on the wiki. I just installed it for the first time and I went with just a wm and was left with a lot to configure myself as a result (still easy since the wiki walks you through that for just about anything you want to install) it took me a day and a half to make sure I had absolutely everything I wanted on here and get my vim configs set up and everything.
Maybe check out Antergos, I used that briefly and that was pleasant (although somewhat pointless given how easy Arch is to install)
sounds like a bit of a pain, whats it like managing your packages on arch? i like to try new software often, so ease and speed of install is important to me, i just want it to werk on first try
>- is relatively stable due to freshness of packages
Not possible, you cannot have both stability and bleeding edge packages. Otherwise it seems like you want Debian Unstable (Sid) or Arch, pick your poison. Both are pretty unstable.
>debian is a little too outdated
You can use backports and external repos if you need certain software to be up-to-date. Failing either of those, you can make your own backports or compile from source.
It always has for me. Use yaourt and package management is really simple even installing stuff from aur. I haven't gotten around to checking gentoo out and I hear portage is nice but yaourt (which is pretty much a wrapper around pacman) is way better than anything I've used before.
>Only downsides are that you'll have to wait a little bit longer for packages, but once you get them they're usually well tested, and systemd.
Did you hear that the other day they removed the Nvidia drivers from Testing? People are bitching all over the place about how their update broke their system.
Bottom line: Testing and Unstable are unstable, just because someone has used them for a certain amount of time doesn't mean they won't blow up in your face.
>usually well tested
They go from Unstable to Testing if they don't find bugs within 10 days. That's not exactly the most thorough examination.
Also there's the downside to Testing in that it doesn't receive timely security updates.
Why do I have to read 3 1000 page manuals just to understand one Linux distribution?
Why can't I just use Windows now that we know Linux is even less secure than it?
Tell me this, Linuxfags.
Try Arch Linux with the Openbox window manager.
Pretty much everything you described.
>is not bloated
>works well on most notebooks (and doesn't burn your CPU)
>supports many programming languages, especially new like Go, Rust etc.
>has big repo and doesn't force you to compile every package
>is relatively stable due to freshness of packages
>can be configured nicely and almost everything can be suited for your personal needs
>how can anyone learn anything by following simple instructions?
i consulted the arch beginner's guide a few more times after installing it, but soon i had everything memorized
autoremove is horrible, although i admit that this is true for pretty much any package manager. i'd hope that nix and guix might alleviate that problem.
but other than that it's slow and doesn't really offer all that much functionality, so i'll take pacman over yum any day
let's put it this way, i never managed to fuck up x on arch.
that was on fedora 19
on 18 it managed to fuck up wlan
i mean, i was able to solve those problems, but if i have to put up with this stuff, i'd rather use arch or gentoo than fedora
tbh, i don't have a lot of luck with noob-friendly distros, maybe fedora falls under the same curse.
a few weeks ago emerge -uavDN world killed my wifi and i badly needed a working computer so i thought i would quickly install xubuntu on a separate partition. first the installer crashed and when i finally got it to work i saw my first kernel panic in 5 years upon reboot
needless to say i'm back to gentoo
The OS senses your autism and reacts to it.
I have never had any problems with any *buntu, except on my shitty desktop where compositing would fucking crash the whole system. God what a nightmare.
UEFI. Last time I tried fedora was a half year ago, and some dracut shit caused it to not boot at all.
Now I'm on Arch.
This is the most accurate distro guide I've seen to date:
if you still have that wifi problem, the thing that killed it for me on gentoo recently was that the regulatory domain was set to CN instead of my own region. iw reg set <countrycode> fixed it persistently. (and it only killed it on gentoo, I have an ubuntu install as a backup and that kept connecting.)
no idea why, I have the COUNTRY env variable set, but crda seems to have ceased working a while back which is the program that used to be responsible for setting it.
i already got it to work, but thanks anyway
i still find it weird how these fucking country specific regulations managed to find their way into the wireless drivers, but i guess in some places they actually check for this stuff
btw, does anyone know what code to use if you want the most liberal frequency management?