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old thread is over 300 replies.

look what just came in the mail, /g/
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pretty good condition for $15
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top cover is kind of scuffed up though.


what have you /g/uys /g/ot?
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>>42992594
Some old as anything Thinkpad. Does it run something like Windows 98 or XP or even Windows 7? Or is it another something like GNU/Linux kind of one.
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If I get a Thinkpad Ultrabay Numeric Keypad, would it fit into a t400?
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ey
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>>42992851
i plan on putting bodhi linux on it. it only has 512Mb ram and an intel centrino, but there are some videos of bodhi linux running very smoothly. i may switch to arch later on as i learn more. im kind of a beginner right now.
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>>42992920
lookin good, man.
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>>42992910
Generally no
The Ultrabay has gone through multiple revisions
The T400 uses the Serial Ultrabay Slim which uses a different connector to previous ones and is less chunky
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>>42993082
Ouch, thanks for your response.

Any idea on how I could get used to the inbuilt numpad?
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>>42992972
shit nigga
i have a 40,41 and 42
i can sell you some ram and an hdd for it if you want
maybe a battery.

I've got several thinkpads I want to sell off. Lemme know if anyone is interested

>t40
1gb ram, regular shitty hdd and shitty screen. comes with a NIB OEM battery

>t41
same as above

>t42
trashed screen, no ram, no hdd, no battery
20 bux shipped


>r32, 2 r52
work fine, shitty specs
each is 20 bux shipped

>x230t
>540m
>320gb
>4g ram
>comes with pen
>minor damage
>600 shipped

i also have a t400 but no one likes those
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>>42993198
What's wrong with the t400?
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>>42993230
I dunno. I like mine but it's a tad large for my tastes
i've been debating turning it into a portable emulator machine
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>>42993244
Oh that's great news, I was worried that it'd be too small. That's also a pretty great idea.
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>>42993269
>small

the x201 is 29.5cm x 21cm
the T400 is 33.5cm x 24cm

It doesn't seem like much but it is
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Where can I get replacement rubber feet for my X220t. The rubber feet that hold the touch screen in place when flipped onto the keyboard came loose.
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>>42993336
Jesus Christ that's large, cheers for that
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>>42993127
If you're doing serious number input, then there's no hope. You'll just have to deal with the one build into the qwerty block, or the number row on the keyboard or get an external.

>>42993352
I'd like to know too. You're far from the first who's had the problem.
And thus is why they should've kept the latch. Fun thought: there's magnets in the bezel of the X220t but they don't really do anything, the spring thingy in the hinge does the work.
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fuck you thinkpad faggots

i fell for the ruse a year ago and got a t430

absolute piece of shit with the worst screen I have ever seen in my life
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I have posted this before but I'll try again:

Approx. 5 days ago I bought an -almost- new ThinkPad x200. The BIOS had a supervisor password on it.

I opened the thing up, shortened out the SDA & SCL pins on the EEPROM chip. It skipped me straight to BIOS, without using a password, but options were still greyed out (couldn't edit them).

I tried another method (from AllService.ro forum). Basically it involves building a small electrical circuit and hooking the EEPROM to a serial port.

I was able to dump my BIOS binary file but the password was not visible on the designated address. (because my bios is TCPA encrypted).

Now this forum called AllService is offering a service to unlock TCPA encrypted BIOSes. They modify your binary file with the password, and you'll have to cook it back.

Because I don't want to spend 40 euros on that shit I want to try to do it myself. It seems quite logical.

I have found the hex address where the password resides. I am thinking about wiping it out and replacing it with 0's, then cooking it back to the BIOS. One of my concerns is the checksum of the binary file, and how the beast is gonna handle it.

Has anyone been through the same situation as me? I'd like some more information about the process because I'll probably end up bricking.
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>>42993425
External it is, thanks.
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>>42992972
Gr8, also you got it in a pretty good condition for a Thinkpad T41.
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>>42993431
Haw haw.

Go back to your glossy screen macbook.
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>>42993431
>i fell for the ruse a year ago and got a t430

Not so great being in the exclusive club when you find out the majority of them are idiots. At least their false sense of superiority keeps them in one thread.
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I was going to buy x201 but I was not happy with outputs on this thing. Thank God, I found Dell E6410 for the same price with better screen and outpout layout.

also
Those red trackpoint from thinkpad will fit Dell keyboard?
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What's so good about think pads compared to other good laptops?
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>>42993431
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Replacing_T430_screen_with_a_better_one

At least you have the option.
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>>42992637
You can buff that out nice :)
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>>42993198
what damage on the x230t and what kind of digitizer?
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>>42993431
If the screen is broken, return it and get a new one.
If any of the other hardware didn't work for you, it's your own fault for not researching it.
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>>42994667
>Those red trackpoint from thinkpad will fit Dell keyboard?
The holes seem to be the same, but ThinkPad nubs are mushroom-shaped while the Dell ones seem to be just cylindrical, so I'm not sure how would that work.
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What's the best budget model for intensive office work? btw i'm a girl :^)
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>>42994542
>if you dont like thinkpads you're a macfag

lol wow
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>>42994862
Not him, but what else do you suggest? Dell?
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Guys, what's the best OS (and distro if GNU/Linux) for an X200?

I'm mainly gonna be using it for a note-taking and textbook-viewing device, with a bit of light web browsing. I'm moderately experienced with GNU/Linux but don't want something that's high maintenance.

It arrives tomorrow, the 1.86GHz version with a 160GB HDD; but I'm unsure of the version of the screen. It's this one in the picture.
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Quick question: is 300$ too much for a used t410?
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>>42993431
You are fucking stupid. No one likes T430 here, If you ever buy anything past T420 series you are dumb sheep and pay for thinkpad brand instead of quality. Thinkpads are susposed to be bought as cheap laptops that will last. That's why you are susposed to fish for good deals and buy cheapest you can. This way no matter what happens you have no regrets, and plenty of those will last for next 10 years. I use X61 myself, dirt cheap, just werks, small and portable.
If you actually want somewhat new machine don't buy thinkpad. Thinkpads are dead, new thinkpads are not worth shit. Go buy Dell latitude.
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>>42994842
Are you going to be using the laptop display or an external monitor? Are you going to be mobile/do you need portability? Budget?

Because you could also just get a dock for the ThinkPad and pretty much use it as a desktop replacement. Wouldn't have to use the laptop keyboard, touchpad, or small screen. Then you can just pop it off whenever you need to take it with you.
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>>42995055
yes it's too much
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>>42995098
Follow up question: 190$ for one without an hdd?
I have plenty of spare HDDs but I would need to buy an installation frame
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>>42994999
There is no such a thing as the best. Xubuntu or Mint with Cinnamon. Debian Sid or Arch if you want rolling release. Crunchbang or Debian stable if you don't mind using 2 years old kernel. Gentoo if you like compiling. That's it.
Also any GNU/linux will work on x200.
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>>42995158
That's pretty good if it doesn't have minimum specs and is it good condition.

The hard drive rails are only like $10, so whatever. Would highly suggest getting an SSD though.
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Anyone from Germany here? Where would I buy a used thinkpad here? Ebay seems way too expensive
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>>42995199
It's got the i5-520M and a 1280x800 glossy screen. I have spare RAM and an SSD which I would put in there but I'd really like one with a matte screen and preferably higher resolution. Can't find anything like that in that price range though
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>>42995204
Thinkpads are inflated. eBay is likely your best bad. Could look on Gumtree or whatever the Deutscher equivalent is.

>>42995160
Thanks, so does everything JUST WORK?
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>>42994899
surface pro 3
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I'm having a problem with my x220's webcam
It's not detected by Ubuntu or Mavericks at all, and there's no option to enable/disable it in the BIOS as far as I can tell.
I think it's there; I ran "lsinput" in Terminal and one of the events includes "video/input0"
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>>42995291
Pretty much. Your wifi may or may not work with Debian or Crunchbang, it's piss easy to make it work anyway. With Ubntoo and Mint everything should work oob. Arch and Gentoo will work if you make it work.
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>>42994789
1/4

chip off near the expresscard slot
both of the rubber lidholders are gone

standard single point wacom digitizer, no finger shit
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2/4
please excuse the mess, in the middle of moving the wife out
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3/4
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>>42994834
thanks slavbro. I love those in my mothers T400 but Im not so sure about cylindrical ones.
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>>42995493
> moving the wife out
wat
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holy fuck that's grubby
brb towel

>>42995527
she's moving overseas for a year for work
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>>42995535
ahhh
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much better
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>>42995535
enjoy your new baby.
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>>42993469
>Has anyone been through the same situation as me?
yep, did all the same shit you did to try to undo the damn password. I ended up just buying a new x200 mobo from ebay for $20 bucks
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Is disabling Quadro graphic cards is even an option in notebooks?
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>>42995243
It shouldn't have a glossy screen unless they replaced it.
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>>42995608
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>>42995634
From certain T410 models to all T and W series lines in subsequent generations yes. It's called nvidia optimus.
Although the T400's ATi graphics solution was switchable through some dark magic.
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>>42995664
it said glossy in the description but maybe they were wrong. the resolution is a bummer though
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>>42995717
Thanks. I hope i can disable it in Dell laptop
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>>42995696
>that handwriting
Love it.
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>>42995818
>>42995818
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I'm looking to buy an x220 but I'm wondering what kind of battery life can one expect?

I'm assuming the battery I'll get with it will be worthless, so how is it with aftermarket 6 or 9 cell ones? For avarage wifi/3g web browsing with medium+ brightness?
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>>42996176
>I'm assuming the battery I'll get with it will be worthless

Why? It's only 2 years old. It shouldn't be in that bad of condition... I own a T420 and X220 and the batteries were in good condition when I got them.

It's safe to assume you can get about 1 hour per cell. Obviously it varies with what you're doing and what your settings are.
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who the fuck offers sim cards for the wan module? i just want a gb or so a month
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>>42996283

Because people tend to not give a shit.
My own father bought his crappy Dell laptop, which in the last 5 years I've never seen him move outside of our house, regardless battery was kept in and I'm pretty sure it has never used up an entire cycle in its life - before dying due to negligence.

Plus the ebay listing saying "good battery 2 hours" is not that promising either.
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>>42996294
just go to the carriers website and get a data plan
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>$170 down the drain
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>>42996735
timestamp that nigga
put you in the bingo
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>>42996735

My god thats one disgusting ass fuck of a thinkpad.
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>>42996757
Me too lazy to bangu.


>A31p, W700ds, T30, X-series optical, Pre-2K, ULV CPU, X6*

Also werent the i suffix thinkpads were shit?
I know the e branded ones are.
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>>42997096
>forget photo
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>>42997096
>>42997112
which one is the ulv? s70?
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>>42997291
Should be...
Its before ultrabooks really took off
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>>42997311
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>>42996735
Why? I think it's a real pretty machine. :3
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>>42997523
no i-series or transnote sadly....
transnotes seem to be sub $200, there was a spectacular model being sold for $180, 100% working but I didn't nab it, now broken/missing parts units are sold for that much on eBay.

I would like to get an i-1124, its basically between the ThinkPad 240X and X20.
There is also a silver I series I would want to get, most other aren't sweet with the exception that some can be used to play CDs without the unit being turned on completly.

Few of them are ugly however, after buying an 280Z, I don't care for the size factor as the tradeoff in keyboard feel isn't great. 770X is a fucking anvil to carry.

I need to be able to get my 365XD in a working order, maybe I can browse 4chan on it one day... I love typing on it.

>>42997622
Thanks, though the lid and body aren't scuffed that badly, a nice job of carbon fiber wrap sells a ThinkPad very easily.
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Here's what I think of you thinkpad elitists
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So, my T410 doesn't turn on anymore. I was using it yesterday through the battery cause I didn't have a power outlet available and I use it till the battery was at 5% and turn it self off.
Now it does nothing when I press the power button, with or without the battery, the only thing I can see is the battery charging signal, but that's it. I'm guessing the motherboard is dead.
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>>42997679
What kind of carbon fibre are you using, anon?

DiNoc or Scotchprint? I'm curious. I don't like the glossy finnish but you do seem to be using a very high quality vinyl.
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>>42998119
Neither, A31p has a crap clone of what you asked, here's what I bought. It doesn't have texture, just a 2D look of carbon fiber, kinda gay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/400376404940?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

For the X-series on the right I have this, it has a somewhat glossy cover.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/131065531818?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I don't have a for the one on the left, though it doesn't have a top finish, so you feel the texture, slighly better to see.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/181304279490
ahskdjheiuwhdnwoiwj
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Thanks for the info. I'm really digging the way you cover the "Lenovo" badges. Thinking of doing the same to mine and convering it with another IBM sticker in the same orientation the original Lenovo badge is...

My vinyl is a crappy DiNoc clone. But it gets the job done. Nice job on covering the sides. I always get wrinkles on the corners of the top lid. :(
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>>42998371
Nice.
Can you do photos with cuts marked?
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>>42998730
*Could
fuck me
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Obligatory which-one-should-I-get post.
Not doing anything big on it, usual stuff, but current laptop has shit the bed. Need an upgrade. Was looking at the t440
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>>42998850
no
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>>42998850
any thinkpad past the T420 is ass

just get a surface pro 3 or something if you are going to buy new hardware
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>>42998748
T430/T420

Don't listen to the trolls.
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>>42998748
Whoops, quote the wrong post.

What do you mean by "cuts market", anon?
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>>42999103
>the trolls

I own a t430

Absolute worst screen I have ever seen in my life, chiclet keyboard, absolutely not worth it
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>>42998371
No prob.
Yeah the CF vinyl can be a pain, espeically if it bends, it could show a wrinkle when applied.
I just do quite a few cuts on the edges before appling, so that it can wrap around and overlap to a decent finish where it doesn't bubble or have a sharp edge. I'm getting better, gonna wrap a W500 soon because it was scratched up badly.

Shit sells easily.

>>42998850
There's a few refurb'd T440p in the outlets for under 1K, a few X240's under $800, dunno if they let payment plans on those models.
There was maybe one T440 which had a HD+ screen... Don't look at the E-series on there, I saw an L520 but it probably has a shitty WXGA screen and that awful uncentered keyboard.
The L440 seems decent, still has the black color of the ThinkPad line and you don't have to take out the whole bottom end to get to the HDD or RAM, still has a door for it.
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>>42999124
>What do you mean by "cuts market", anon?
Something like this
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What's so bad about the T430?
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>>42999145
The screen is not a huge deal if you're using it as a work machine. And the chiclet keyboard is just as rugged and accurate. It's only a matter of faste.

>>42999171
There are actually no cuts, anon. I cut a big enough sheet and apply it on the surface, then i cut the rest with an hobby knife. I tried my best to even out the corners on the edges of the lid with a blowdrier but a few wrinkles/folds remain. Shit sucks, but i guess i could've done a lot worse. I'll take a picture when i get back home from work.
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>>42999501
It's fucking nothing. It's not my first ThinkPad and let me you that i'm very glad i got this before it was impossible to get them new..

The screen is a not a huge deal. I'm also sure someone will come up with an easier mod to replace it.

Also, sauce on the keyboard being just as good/better: I couldn't agree more:

http://blog.laptopmag.com/thinkpad-type-off-is-lenovos-new-island-style-keyboard-better-or-worse
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>>42993336

Funny, I thought the T410 looked too small to I got the T510. I think the size is perfect.
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Hey after researching a lot I was gonna buy a PC but they are so god damn expensive that I'm going to buy a laptop instead since it's going to be better for me since my electricity isn't very stable and on the weeks I'm not at home.
Are W series a good choice? I want this baby to last me a while and I'm gonna use it mostly to write and browse the web.
The screen must be good, I can always use a external screen but I mostly want it to be customizable (Add RAM, SSD, replace CPU and/or screen if possible).
I was thinking about the T420 or a W510.
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>>42999944
Buy UPS, dont have to deal with shit laptop components
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>>42999944
build a fucking pc you tard
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>>42999986
>>43000022
It's too expensive for me.
I already did the math and it's going to cost me nearly 15000 pesos (that's around 1500 USD). I can't afford that. A UPS would make the price scale at least 300 USD more.
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>>43000067
>pesos
Do you live in some sort of shithole? Why are pc components so expensive?

>which country
>what are limitations to getting stuff shipped over? (eg taxes/customs/etc for gifts)
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>>43000067
Building a desktop of the same power would cost like half the money in most countries, are you saying that its the reverse on your end?
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>>43000120
Argentina.
I need to like pay some taxes in order to get a level 2 status on some government agency that I can't get because I'd need to pay even more taxes and only companies can get it.
And even if I get it, I'd have to pay the item, plus shipping, plus 50% of the product+shipping and 35% of the item+shipping because I'd have to be using USD instead of ARS.
A 100 USD item would cost me 185 USD, assuming shipping is free.
And on top of that, I'd have to wait 1 month to get it and pray to God they don't steal it.
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>>43000410
>plus 50% of the product+shipping and 35% of the item+shipping because I'd have to be using USD instead of ARS.

is this for gifts too? i've got some old thinkpads i can let go for cheap
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>>43000468
no gifts and books don't pay taxes but i dont want it because they are going to steal it at customs or at the mail
i appreciate your kindness but if they do that im going to lose money and you're going to lose a thinkpad
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Found this on local Craiglist: Lenovo Thinkpad T400 laptop - $65

Is this good, Anon? Need to find out the spec and see if it's working... say battery is low and seller don't have a ac adapter. Waiting for his response.
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>>42992851
>Windows 98
>T43
Wow are you 12 or something?
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>>43000536
Don't you have registered mail in Argentina?
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>>42993431
>i fell for the ruse a year ago and got a t430
What ruse? It's pretty well known that chinkpads are just as crappy as everything else.

They stopped making Thinkpads years ago.
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>>43000555
I think they go for about that much on eBay as a barebones unit.
Depends on its condition if it was abused badly

Sound deal, T400's are a little bit lighter than the T61.
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>>43000592
Yes, but still the possibility exists. I don't want to drag you into this I'm really sorry. I can buy a ThinkPad here we were talking about computer parts, those I can't get here for cheap.
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>>42997759
>T440p

You're the one who failed.
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>>42995061
>using a laptop for 10 years
does it even run flash?
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What kind of SSD should I buy for an x201?

Need >120GB capacity for as cheap as possible.

I'm currently looking at a 128GB Sandisk Ultra Plus for 60$.
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>>43000799
>flash
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>>43000818
>not using a computer for the internet
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My T42's backlight is very dim, it also has a warm hue to the screen.

What do? pls respond Anon.
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>>43000832
What sites do you go on that use flash?
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>>43000875
xvideos and xhamster
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>>43000875
any sites with video
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>>43000832
Flash is fading away, most phones do not support it.
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>>43000889
I can't really argue with that. I wish more websites were like pornhub and jewtube and started with html5 support.
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>>43000915
>>43000910
The only thing that I agree with Stevie Jobs is that Flash needs to die. Fuck Adobe.
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>>43000915
define phones
chrome has flash built in, just pointing this out
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>>43000915
well i doubt these ancient thinkpads could even decode html5/h264 without choking
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>>43000966
Even Chrome for Android phones?
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>>43000999
hehe im sorry i am wrong adobe dropped flash support in 4.1 i see it's been a long time since i used a smartphone im sorry it used to be like that when i had one
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2PF0VA1373&cm_re=lenovo_thinkpad_x220-_-9SIA2PF0VA1373-_-Product

dew it?
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>>42992637
Looks the same. Same brand not its an R52
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>>43001065
No worries, my point is that if it is not available for phones, then it is kinda irrelevant. The age of devices with keyboards is gone.
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>>43000970
>html5/h264
Yes, because h264 and vp8 is so hard to decode.
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>>42992594
>>42992608
>>42993198
I'm gonna get an old nice t40 soon. The frame is broken in two places, left side by the screen and right side by the Cd drive.

Any ideas on repairs/mods? Can I change the Cd drive for something useful? Battery maybe? Any advice greatly appreciated.
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>>43001550
Do you have any reason to buy that model and not one of the newer T4*?
There is not much you can do with 1 of those. Or any of the newer T4*, by the way.
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Has anyone gotten OS X to work on an X61t?

It runs fine on my T420, but i want it on my secondary just to fuck around with and the T420 is my main.
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>>43001657
Well its free. Kinda like the old ones. I've tried it and it's good enough for browsing g and writing things. I it as a fun project too. If I end up studying more I'd probably get something more powerful.
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Ok, so I bought both a T420 and a W520, and that's a pretty long story in itself, but I have a more specific question: When watching an identical video on both laptops, when there is a slow pan in the footage, my W520 will display it as jittery, while my T420 displays it smoothly. Why is this and how can I fix it?
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>>42993230

Slow processor
1300 resolution
Shit display, but that's common for Lenovo's
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Just ordered another 4gb stick for my t420.

Runs almost perfect on the stock 4gb, but I'm having problems when I run a vm + a lot of tabs. It'll also help with imagemagick shizzle.

Ive had this t420 for about a year and jesus fuck, it's the best piece of tech I've handled. Upgrading/taking it apart is the easiest thing in the world. The quality over all is great. Damn, love the 1600x900 screen, I've been using it for work and home stuff. Only wish the viewing angles were slightly better, but fuck that for now. And the keyboard is god tier.
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>>43002537
There could be a billion things, not enough info

Graphics chips? What kind of video? Video player? OS? Internet connection?
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>>43002674
T420 - integrated
W520 - optimus

Video is in an mkv container, not totally sure what the actual file type is

MPC-HC on both

Windows 7 Professional on both

They're both connected to the internet
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>>43002698
Do you have the right drivers? Did you try disabling the Nvidia graphics and just using the integrated?
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>>43002730
I'm fairly certain I have the right drivers, but I'll try just switching to integrated.
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>>42995204

www.lapstore.de

Bought mine there with 1 year guarantee. But best price with similar conditions already is eBay
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>>43002654
That's good to hear, I'm getting a T420 soon. I will probably put the X1 Carbon screen in it. I'm surprised you haven't, already.
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Cost no object, is a brand new Lenovo still the best out there? I am looking mainly for stability, long life and a robust design.
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>>43002919
That is not how the market works now.
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>>43002674
>>43002730
Nevermind, I just switched the renderer in MPC and now it works fine :^)
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>>43002919
No. They've really skimped with everything that make a Thinkpad a Thinkpad except for the screen. (build quality, full voltage CPUs, keyboard)

Now-a-days. your best bet is to get an HP EliteBook or a Dell Latitude. If cost is no object, how about you get a w701ds and shitpost on /g/ about it? It should last you forever, as well.

But if you're really set on a thinkpad, get a pre-2012 X, T or W without the s or i suffix. (x220, t420 and w520). If you're not sure, here's a pretty good guide:

https://yttrium-tyclief.github.io/guides/Thinkpads/wseries.html
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>>43001084
God no. They're much cheaper on Ebay.
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Holy shit, /g/. I've come up with the best idea ever. When I go through with it, I'll greentext it for you. So anyway, here's my idea. Get a Thinkpad older than a T60, and take it to the apple store.
Once there, I'm going to talk to one of the sales associates and say
"Hey, I have this old beater laptop that I'm looking to replace. The thing is, I love the build quality. Can you do this with Macs?" and as I say that, drop it on the ground.
I want to see the look of terror on his face, and what he says in response to that.
As stated earlier, I'll greentext when I go through with it. Maybe take pics of his face, also.
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>>43003052
I'm not set on a Thinkpad, but it has to be brand new, not second hand. And a reliable, robust and long life design. I don't need top performance, any i5 with 4-6 gigs will do.

Will take a look at HP EliteBook or a Dell Latitude, thanks anon

>>43003016
Then enlighten me.
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>>43003360
Are you paying for it yourself or is your employer?
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>dead pixel
Should I send it back?
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>>43003400
It's for my father, who's an engineer. Not heavy CAD or anything, but reliability is a must.
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>>43003709
What I am saying with that is that he doesn't need nor want a 3k$ workstation. Just build quality.
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>>43003754
But the Dell M4800 is a great machine still.
After hearing complaints about the W540, and knowing that there are heating and throttling issues since the ThinkPad W510, I'd get the Dell, espeically since they have an excellent warranty plan.

To be honest, I am thinking about getting it to replace my W700ds
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/g/, I just picked up an x220t off Ebay for $316 with an i5 and 4GB of ram. Did I do good?
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My employer hadn't had an IT guy in their 15+ years of business. I came in about 6 months ago and purchased several dozen thinkpad t410's. Boss flips his shit on me now a couple months later because every single one doesn't have HDMI-out for his garbage Sharper Image pocket projector.

Any recommendations on cheap models with HDMI out? Anything I've seen with HDMI is still 500-600+ off lease.
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>>43003946
DisplayPort adapter
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>>43003896
No, that's a lot for an x220 with only 4 gb of RAM.
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>>42995061
>Dell latitude.
Are those good? I haven't heard much about them.
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>>42995061
X61 was shit. Screen was shit, heated up like a grill, keyboard felt like shit. You are a goddamn sheep who bought it just for the hipster credz.
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>>42992594
>VGA port
Did you get that retro laptop from Etsy?
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>>43003994
He refuses to use any kind of adapter. Complains about having one more thing to worry about and how they never work for him..
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>>43004002
Its the tablet version which usually sells for a lot more than the base model.
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>>43000910
i only browse sites that use html5
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>>43004086
>what is legacy support
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>>43004606
>what is legacy support
The hardware version of bloat?
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>>42994667
>comparing 12 and 14 inch
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>>43004644
VGA is really important for businesses with ancient as fuck projectors. Not so handy for home use, but this is a business laptop after all.
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>>43004685
If Lenovo is really trying to be practical, why don't they just put an HDMI port in?
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>>43002654
ive had a t420 for about a week, upgrade from an X61
Holy shit i love it. It looks good, it feels good, and got it for $240.
fucking great laptop
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>>43005755
>looks good
compare the screen to other screens and you'll start to hate it pretty quick.
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>>43004685
Most schools and colleges have VGA projectors, too.
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>>43005733
>and then you realized nearly every laptop manufacturer still puts VGA on their laptops

Also, DisplayPort is better than HDMI in every way.
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>>43005801
>compare the screen to other screens and you'll start to hate it pretty quick.
id love a 1080 screen, but compared to my x61 it's incredible
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>>43005801
Let them like it, I don't know how bad the displays are on the T410 and above but the X61 was a pain if it was the standard screen.
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Should i get an x61 tablet with no HDD for 80 bucks? I've always wanted one of those.
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I have an X60 with #! on it, but the screen rotation isn't working. I've looked it up and have only found information for what to do on Arch. Any advice?
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Sup /g/? Ive been waiting to buy a thinkpad for awhile now and will soon have the cash. I was wondering what models have a built in webcam? Preferably one with a c2d and 2gigs of ram.
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It's pretty much a behemoth, but I love my w520. The only drawback is that it has a dead pixel, but I suppose I can always replace the screen.
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>>43006125
I got two W500's im about to sell that seem to come with them, which means the T500 can have them.
X200 (non tablet) has them as well.

A few Z-Series had them also, but they needed the motherboard to come with the camera, can't just add it on.

My X300 has one as well, so did the X301
T400 may have one, unsure, I doubt any of the 14" or 15" 4:3 had enough space for them
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A couple I am refurbishing just arrived, and both are a surprise - I never knew the X201t came with an IPS screen, perhaps it's after market but it is pen enabled so I'm not sure, and the T410s is even more of a surprise. It's actually lighter than the X201t, has a SSD, and the screen is gorgeous, with that heavenly 16:10 aspect ratio - it might just become my "on the road" machine of choice. Good stuff.
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>>43004002
No, it's not a lot for an x220t (the tablet version), those go for much more than the standard 220's
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>>43003352
Or the look on yours when you realize that the old Thinkpads were durable and not invulnerable, and you just unwittingly made an ass of yourself.
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>>43006429
Yeah that's not a bad price. I paid 300 for my 220 non tablet and the stupid lid sensor doesn't even work.
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>>43006464
Of course I'm going to test it out beforehand, but it's just an idea that I had. Fuck you, I would laugh.
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>>43001084
Holy fuck no- way overpriced for a standard 220 (not a 220t) but also, the refurbisher threw a 32 bit OS on a system with 4GB of RAM. Fucking retards.
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>>42994834
They aren't the same. I've owned a latitude E5400 and am typing this on an X220, the dell holes are a lot smaller
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>>43003352
>mfw MacBooks are more durable than Thinkpads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyJmcVh0E94
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>>43006543
Never seen an actual ThinkPad torture test, have we?
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>>43006543
What kind of reddit-teired shit did I just watch?
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What kind of battery life y'all getting on linux? I can squeeze out 4 hours normally, 5 if I try hard enough.
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>>43006682
On what model and which battery and what condition is the battery in?
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>>43006543
I only went to the scratch test, cant deal with that music.

also
>one type of test
>its more durable
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>>43006543
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCwwDacNk1U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO5LGICeOuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqGpxlErY38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oV-LvQtLwk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rg7tKJWk2w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBcW90ngh4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7cvi00OZDM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAYQGp45EM0
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>Dad asks me to do an e-waste run of old computer shit
>Asks me to take an 'old' laptop of a sales associated he fired from his previous job
>Lo and behold, it's a T410 with an i5 520M in it
>Right off the bat, upgraded the ram and put a SSD in it
>Cleaned the fan and re-applied thermal paste when it started shutting off on me (how the fuck did the salesperson use this?)
>Nearly all divers can be downloaded through Windows Update

Wow, this thing rocks.....
If only it had an mSATA in it, it would be perfect
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>>43006805
they probably couldn't use it, that's why it was in for the bin
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>>43006682
7.5 hours of regular work (80-90% brightness, wifi, "on-demand" cpu, no keyboard backlight or thinklight) i can get up to 10 hours if i turn off the wifi switch and underclock to 1.20 ghz. Thinkpad T430 with 9 cell battery.
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>>43006805
You lucky fuck.

But, hey, i thought the T410 did have a Msata slot. Does the t420/430 have one? What is the advatange over using a regular ssd?
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>>43006864
I don't think so--it has a (useless) fullsize mPCIe slot, on top of having a half-size one, but no mSATA that I know of.
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>>43006900
woah woah woah, it's not useless

some people have uses for WLAN/WWAN modules

But that's correct, T410 does not support mSATA. >>43006864 The Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge lines do support mSATA.
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>>43006864
The t410 has the mSata slot, but it will only support a WWAN card, not a storage device. The advantage is it's form factor.
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>>43006977
But it has a port for half-size modules
>Implying I would shell out money for WWAN card and plan when mobile hotspots are more convenient
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>>42994714
what would be the recomend way to "buff that out"
im not op but my thinkpad has a scuff that isnt too big
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>>43006977
are there any good fairly cheap lte wwan cards that work with the t410?
and im too scared to put my sim card into my laptop since the only way to get it out is a shitty plastic tab
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What are the main differences between the X220 and T420?
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>>43007432
forgot to mention that im using T-mobile and im running mint 17
also would a pcie ssd be more useful? because i can easily make a hotspot on my phone
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>>43006543
>never corner dropping it
>carefully setting the boulder on it slow as fuck
>wood pallet
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>>43007480
They have pretty much the same keyboard, but the form factor is very different. The x220 doesn't have an ultrabay, and that's the major difference.
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>>43007480
X220 is a 12.5" laptop and the T420 is a 14".

The X220 only came with integrated graphics, the T420 had optional Nvidia graphics. X220 has no ultrabay which means no cd/dvd reader. X220 was stuck with 1366x768, T420 could go up to 1600x900.

The X220 Tablet only came with up to a 6-cell battery, the regular X220 and T420 could go up to 9-cell batteries.
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I got myself a new T420 about year ago. My only complaints are about the substandard plastic casing ThinkPads seem to have these days, especially the screen bezel flex, the looseness around the palmrest and on the sides. Other than these "aesthetic issues", as far as computing is concerned, it serves me fine.
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>>43007968
>substandard plastic

You're either very stupid or very troll.

8/10, made me reply and do a quick google search: http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=104688
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A-a-are the trackpads supposed to be this abrasive?
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>>42992608
That is amazing for $15, I think I'm gonna get one.

>A+++++ GREAT CONDITION!!!
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So glad I bought my thinkpad :3
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>>43010257
>pad printed keys
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>>43007968
>screen bezel flex
yeah when i pinch it at the top to pick it up i notice it bad. the body feels solid tho
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>>42992608
I see that old linksys WUSB54GC wireless g adapter in that dell. Don't you just love having to use proprietary drivers?
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anybody got multiple monitors hooked to an X series?
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>>42994842
>btw i"m a girl :^)
So what? Do you want special treatment? That's asking for condescension and/or sexism, mainly because you implied you think it makes a difference what answer you'll get for that question, if you point out that you had a vagina at birth.
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>>42997759
>awkwardly sized photo
>failed to give a proper middle finger
>"elitists" dislike the model
>lighting could use some work, as there's a blurry red outlining your hand, and the flash reflection is bothersome, jack
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>>43010500
>vagina
Let's all go to the lobby!
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>>42997759
Fuck off Jack
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Buying an edge e545
Am I stupid?

http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/laptops/thinkpad/edge-series/e545/
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Is this too hot for a w520?

(I'm only installing linux after I make sure there's no hardware problem so the seller can't shaft me if I need to return it).
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>>43010710
fuck, I forgot my pic.
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Where are you people buying all these thinkpads?
eBay, Amazon rain forest???
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>>43010644
Hah, are they really charging a hundred extra bongs for 4 gigs of ram? The operating system is irrelevant.
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What OS ya'll running on your Thinkpads?
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>>43010782
Windows 9
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>>43010782
Windows 7 Professional.
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So I just got my first Thinkpad an X220 and I can't decide between Linux Mint and Ubuntu.

[spoiler]I've never used Linux before.[/spoiler]
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>>43010755
The best thing is, for an extra £27 the 545 can have 8GB instead of 4GB...

Thank if I contact them directly I can save dolla on the OS by having none pre-installed?
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>>43010804
Then install Trisquel or Fedora.
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>>43010829
I'll try out Trisquel thanks anon.
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>>43010829
Fedora was my first or second (I think second?) and I have yet to understand it. It feels like it doesn't quite work for anyone, and when it doesn't work, the support community calls you stupid and tells you to use ubuntu instead (at least on irc, after your google-fu fails)
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>>43010904
Lol. This is the fun with GNU/Linux - I never had problems using it. I just didn't feel I held enough control.
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>>43010853
Trisquel uses Linux-libre, which means it's missing some binary blobs in the Linux kernel, that you may need to use all the hardware on your computer. There are IBM Thinkpads with core 2 duos resold with Linux-libre distros on them, but that doesn't mean every Thinkpad will work. You might end up just wanting to use Ubuntu, Mint, or Arch, as Trisquel is based off Arch.
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>>43010804
If you're coming from Windows, try Linux Mint Cinnamon
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>>43010932
Trisquel is based off Ubuntu. You're thinking of Parabola.
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>>43010932
>>43010940
Alright I've got a lot more to think about.
I won't install it just yet.
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>>43010917
I mean it felt like it when I used it, random chunks of OS were just missing, because they half-held on to a policy of free licenses and all, requiring most users to use rpmfusion. It didn't feel like it was made for the user, but rather just as a testing environment for software to be put in Red Hat later on. Don't get me wrong; I like the idea of testing bleeding-edge software for Red Hat, but it didn't feel like I could do much more than use firefox and mumble, without needing some kind of fix. I did use LXDE spin instead of default for a while, and my graphics chips were always too new for the drivers, I suppose, so obviously YMMV.
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>>43010954
Honestly, you can just install it, check if your hardware works, and then install a new one on top of it if it fails. You would only not want to do this if you have an SSD, or limited time/patience. The installs aren't even that long, and if you're coming from windows, IMO going through multiple different install processes could be a helpful Linux experience.
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>>43010973
>most users to use RPMfusion

you use nonfree software?
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>>43011024
I don't even use fedora right now; I'm just using ubuntu (yes I know, pleb) with a few proprietary pieces added.
When I had fedora, I still played nonfree games, (I still do) and to make them work at all, I needed the AMD nonfree driver to my A10 4600M APU to make anything really work. Beside that and S3 texture compression, the rpmfusion things I remember using were free software, but still not included with the normal repo. RPMFusion is split into free and nonfree, with free being things like audacity-freeworld, with its mp3 codecs etc. OGG and FLAC master races, but sometimes you have to download an MP3.
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>>43008409
If you ever handled a T4x or T6x, then you'd agree that Tx10 and Tx20 have flimsy plastic for the screen bezel and the palmrest.
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>>43011209
get out weeaboo
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>>43011228
>not being able to read that says "Japanese sucks" in simplified Chinese :^)
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>>43011257
????? ??????

I learned Mandarin for 3 years and didn't recongnise that
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>>43011291
????????

Here it is neater (next post)
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>>43011291
>>43011409
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>>43011475
???????, ?????? ??????~
Your writing is not bad, I'm not very clever. You're a beautiful person~
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On another note, you'll notice it's running Vista. Is Debian + Xfce the best setup?
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I'd like to buy an SSD for my x201, but I haven't done that before. Is it complicated?

Also, what's a caddy bay? Do I need one?
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>>43011594
>Is it complicated?
It's the same as replacing any hard drive.

>Also, what's a caddy bay? Do I need one?
Yes, you need the hard drive caddy if the laptop you bought doesn't have one. Unless you like to have a woobly hard drive hanging only by the sata connector.

You might also need the door for the hard drive bay.

People like to throw everything in the trash when they sell those corp laptops.
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>>43011209
>>43011257
>>43011291
>>43011409
>>43011533
Native chink speaker here, your grammar is as wrong as "I am regret, I am not a smart", "My handwritten work is naughty/not working/badly behaved."

Please don't use it ever again.
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>>43010986
Yeah I'm just working at the moment will install it once I'm done.
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>>43011257
Also, simplified is communist shit tier. Traditional is the only chinese. Then again you're probably a fucking Amerikkkan who spells honour without u.
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>>43011760
?????????

Better? I've only been at it for like 3 months so yeah.
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>>43012009
Pal, I'm British. I'm learning both slowly but focussing on simplified because it's the most common.
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>>43012036
>>43012009
Or maybe I should say ?????????????

(It's proabably grammatically incorrect but I've been learning for 3 months, give me some slack)
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Are there some SSD brands to avoid or are they all okay?
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But can they run TF2?
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>>43012103
Some say OCZ is a bad brand.
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>>43012009
>speaking subhuman
>any year
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>>43012009
"Honor" is the original spelling, somewhere along the way the British decided to make things more Frenchy.
The original spelling remained in some colonies. Also, UK English is irrelevant now, even if we hate it.
You sound like my mother with her "true English" tirades. I got this habit of saying "zed" from her.
Huelander here, just for reference.
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>>43012695
British English isn't irrelevant. We have some of the greatest literature which could only be truly experienced in their original language and spelling, just as if you were reading Indian or Asian literature.
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>>42992608
>$15
Holy shit, I knew these were cheap but not THAT cheap.

Specs? I don't know my model numbers.
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>>43009941
oh that's just a sticker, you can take it off

it's worth it
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So what happens when the current group of thinkpads that /g/ is jizzing over becomes outdated?

Will /g/ just move up a few years and use the laptops they hate on currently?
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>>43013382
Why is it there?
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>>43012110
TF2 can run well on the T60p, T61p, T400 and T500 with Radeon graphics, X201 and of course anything newer than those.

TF2 can be run, somewhat poorly, on the regular T60, T61, T400 and T500 with Intel Graphics, X60, X61 and X200.

If you stretch you might be able to run TF2 on the T43p or even the T42p.
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>>43013407
1: Work is underway to make new Sandy Bridge boards for the T40 and T60 series

2: It seems like the Core 2 Duo is never going to become truly "outdated". I get that there's i series processors that are more powerful than it now, but holy shit, the thing is 8 years old. It really shows how much we've stagnated - if this were the Pentium 4 era, an 8 year old CPU would be a 486.
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>>43013422
To prevent the shining effect.
Those things look quite disgusting when they are worn off.
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>>43013407
Jump on the Dell Precision bandwagon so long as they don't cave in.
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>>43013407
There's always a decent laptop out there for the price; Thinkpad brand was just a good line of them, that fit most of the specific desires of these kinds of people.
Who knows? Maybe System76 will have good build quality, or maybe we'll all just start making our own laptops from barebones kits. Maybe we'll just 3d print the body and put the parts together on a laptop motherboard.
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>>43010500
>falling for such obvious bait
C'mon, bro.
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>>42995375
Webcams are botnet anyway; your benevolent thinkpad is trying to save you.
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>>43013407
people will move onto other business notebooks, but they'll also start hacking more. we already got atleadt one project working on custom mobos for old thinkpads.
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Give me tech support, g (i-if you feel like it)

Bought R51 for cheap (I know), but can't remove the boot password.
Went through standard process to remove the boot pass (remove cmos battery etc), but boot password still remains. This is not the supervisor password AFAIK and I have never been asked for one. It has both the icon and behavior of the boot pass.
Am I screwed?
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>>42992594
T410 backlight ded, how fix?
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>>43014743
not posseeeble. you bin scammed.
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>>43011475
>>43011209
>i thought that said ?????
That's what I get for learning japanese.
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>>43014743
thinkpads store the password on a chip with non-volatile memory, but there is a tool for removing it somewhere.
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>>43015283
That's only for supervisor passwords. The boot pass should be able to be reset easily. Not in my case though.
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Why is it that a Raspberry Pi can supposedly run 1080p video with little or no problem, but my T60 chokes at anything above 480p? Does it all come down to the OS? The Pi runs RaspBMC which I'm guessing is pretty light
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Oh guys..
anyone need the lenovo restore disks?
I have 2 versions for the x201.
Windows 7 pro 64bit and 32bit
(lenovo/ibm fucked up and sent me the 32 bit by accident)

I'm thinking about making a torrent for each.
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>>43016413
>I'm thinking about making a torrent for each.
Please do. Is that like a full install? I've had a bitch of a time trying to get 32bit Win7 for my T60.
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>>43016413
Yes, you should do that.

Wish I had the restore disks for my ThinkPads, but I don't.

Not like it's that hard to just install the Lenovo bloatware and wallpapers afterwards anyways, but it would be nice.
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>>43016403
I think the RPi has a relatively beefy GPU
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>>43016413
This is what I have
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>>43016728
Pls torrent, I'll have my T60 seed it for awhile afterwards.
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>>43015644
Desolder the bios chip and resolder
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>>43016413
if you upload it i will mirror it

it so happens that i need a 64 bit on for my 201
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>>43016759
Upload it to mega.co.nz, anon. It'd last a lot longer since Lenovo probably doesn't care anymore.

Just don't name it anything stupid like ZOMGWINDOWZSEVENPIRATEDISKFORFREE.rar
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>>43016981
What this guy says, except upload to mediafire if possible. If not, I'll do it.
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>>43007251
water and a towel always works for my t60
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>>43016981
>>43016961
>>43016759
>>43016533
>>43016517
I will upload to Mega as soon as I get home

Also Just a side note.
These restore disks are also for the following thinkpads as well.
X200,x301,x200s,x200 tablet type
2774,2776,2777,2778,2779,4057,
4182,4184,7448,7449,7450,7453,
7454,7455,7457,7458,7459
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>>43017033
AFAIK, mega allows bigger files and is a lot less likely to delete anything (Thank you, based kimDotCom)

Also, it's a lot faster.
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>>43017382
IIRC mediafire puts you through less bullshit to download and you can max out your DL speed. Maybe I'll DL it from mega, and encrypt it or whatever, then do mediafire
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I just got an x200, but it runs win xp at the moment, so I want to switch to linux.

What distro can you guys recommend?
I'm not too experienced with linux, and want to use the ThinkPad mainly for surfing and watching some movies.

I was thinking MINT, maybe Manjaro?
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>>43010644
Nope. I have the sister model, the E540.
If you're looking for ThinkPad-tier build quality, stay away. If you want a cheap laptop that performs decently, then I would recommend it.
Pic related, me and my bitch.
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>>43011679
I don't have a caddy. Shit will work just fine.
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>>43017939
Why not just download a billion .iso's and try them all on VM's first?

Mint, Manjaro, xubuntu, kubuntu, Ubuntu GNOME, Ubuntu MATE...

Also don't forget to install TLP in Linux. Power management and you can set the charge thresholds for the battery.
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>>43010644
Not really, it's a good laptop, but a bad thinkpad. As long as you get it for a good price, it's not stupid.

source:I have an e531.
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>>42998199
Where do I get those stickers.
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>>43018290
3m carbon fiber wrap
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>>43018000
How's the clickpad?
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>>43017939
>>43018212
Xubuntu and Mint are pretty good choices.

>>43018212
Is there anything specific to look out for when configuring TLP? I've got it running on my X60s but I feel like it's not configured properly, I'm only getting 5-6 hours of battery life on my 9-cell and I guess I just expected more. It could just be showing it's age.
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>>43018447
If that's the original battery, then that should be about right.

Generally speaking you should be able to get about 1 hour per cell on a good battery.
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>>43018447
i get the same with my x201,
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>>43018359
Very hard to get used to, that's for sure.
Otherwise, it's alright. It's just different.
Although if I remember correctly, the E545 has a classic styled trackpad with separate buttons, whereas mine is a shitty clickpad design.
Sorry for late reply btw.
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