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Is there any up-to-date phone similar to this? I really want a phone which is as open source and with a physical qwerty keyboard.

I'd buy one but the price is way too high

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NOKIA-N950-Developer-Device-RARE-/221487903735
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>>42984187

Not that I know of, sorry.

Hardware keyboards died, sadly. Don't let the neo900 convince you, it's got meh-tier specs (whereas you could just get an N97, N97 Mini or N900) and costs the same as a flagship.
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>>42984187
have you looked into jolla
>tfw no ubuntu edge
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Why the fuck are there no phones with physical keyboards anymore?
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>>42984240
N97 (mini) phones are not really open source. The Neo900 is the best around

>>42984187
This phone was never intended to be out in the public. There were only a few hundred of these phones that were made and they were given to developers who wrote software for the N9 phone.
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>>42984505

The N900 can be, I think. Except you have to deal with temperamental batteries (hurr turn phone on to charge), weak MicroUSB ports (can be fixed), and just deprecation in general.

>>42984301

Jolla doesn't have a hardware keyboard, does it?
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>>42984474
Because the iPhones don't have them.
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>>42984187
Ugh that hone makes me had.
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only this
http://neo900.org/
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>>42984187
Physical keyboard?
You won't find anything modern with this.

As far as open source goes, just find a model that is supported by cyanogenmod, which is FOSS.
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>>42984740
I think it's ultimately this. Everybody's feeling the pressure to compete with Apple these days in slimness.
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>>42984843
>Everybody's feeling the pressure to compete with Apple these days in slimness.
The market has spoken and we have decided that we wanted thin phones that don't have bulky keyboards. If you want to speak to the marketplace, put your money where your mouth is and starting paying premium prices for phones with keyboards.
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I'm more bummed about the fact that you can't get clam-shell phones anymore.
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just get a black berry q20 when its out or the q10 if you can't wait
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Somebody make a startup for a new smartphone with a physical keyboard running something that respects your freedom pls.
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>>42985362
Dem razors sure were cool.
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>>42985126
>starting paying premium prices for phones with keyboards.

I would, but they don't exist. If I could have gotten a Nexus 5 with a keyboard I would have, but they never made one.
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>>42985416
see >>42984751
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droid 3 or 4 ?
or wait like a year for a pyra (look up openpandora)
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>>42985396
I had that phone, the screen and audio quality was fucking HORRIBLE. But the keyboard was nice. It was also surprisngly powerful I could play tony hawk proskater in a psx emulator at 60fps comfortably with the keyboard.
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>want phsyical kb
>not buying a blackberry
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>>42985418
Holy shit that looks so cool.
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>>42984474
Because touchscreens are better now and keyboards apps like swype make typing faster on the touchscreen.

Also have you owned a phone with a physical keyboard? On the G1 (HTC Dream) it was kind of a pain to pull out and use, so I really only did it when typing long paragraphs.

For example this post would have just been made on the (crappy) touchscreen.
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>>42985362

Wasn't there a candybar Razr-like model? The SLVR, or something.

If only I could get a modern smartphone camera and SD slot in a Razr, that'd be my 10/10 phone. Dem aesthetics.
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>>42985536
They were neat for their time.
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I always hated touch screens, but phones are large enough now that thumb typing on a touch screen is fast and accurate, especially with Android's autocorrection.
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>>42985564
Not that guy, but I've had blackberries, and my favorite phone was a Nokia E71. That thing was god tier, candybar layout so no dicking aorund with sliding some bullshit out, and best of all I could fucking touchtype on the thing. Fuck having to look at a screen while typing.
Touch screen a shit.
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>>42985418
Damn, I remember a time when that design of phone was fucking everywhere.
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bb q10

shit is god tier

small ish screen but no onscreen kb taking up space, only thiong its shit for is videos because of the square screen

but its amazing to quick reply to messages and shit with that kb
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>>42985680
Seriously fucking GOT phone right here.
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Has anyone here tried the Nokia 515? $175 is a lot for a dumbphone but it looks amazing and I'd like to expierence dat month long battery life. Black or white color?
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>>42985430
Buy old phones with outdated hardware at premium prices. That's the only way you can send a strong message to the manufacturers. However, your individual act might not be strong enough for them, it's up to us to continue making these purchases over the long run.
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I'm about to put one of my n950's up for auction on eBay.. No reserve etc. Hoping to pull a decent amount for it.. Even if I don't, I have 2 of them in pristine condition. Its a great phone just lacking the apps
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>>42985794
If you're going to pay that much for a dumbphone you may as well get one of those ultra-durable waterproof/fireproof/crushproof/cumproof phones
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>>42985859

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. The 515 looks damn sleek, though.
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>>42984605
Jolla has TOHs, and someone's made a hardware keyboard one since forever ago. I absolutely love the community that's formed.
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>>42985794

black for sure
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I always wanted a Motorola sidekick, they look cool as fuck
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>>42986069

>sidekick

Mah nigga.

Remember when phones actually looked different? Candybars, clamshell flips, Boost mobile "where u at" walkie talkie phones, etc. Now we have rectangles and more rectangles and spergs sperg over one rectangle having bezels 1mm smaller than the other rectangle.

>looking at Moto SLVR on Wikipedia
>see this
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Nsa-ant-genesis.jpg
>wut

Can't beat that blue backlight on the RAZRs and SLVRs, though.
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>>42985564
>keyboards apps like swype make typing faster on the touchscreen.

This is what /g/ has told me everytime I've bitched about this.

Holy shit are these apps atrocious. I've been using the Android Keyboard for about two months now and it is the worst piece of shit ever. Scratch that, Swype was. With Swype I'd trace out a word, and it will suggest words that aren't even close to anything I traced. And when I'd manually type them in, it would autocorrect to something absurd. I switched over to Android/Google whatever and that fixed most of my issues with strange words... but I still have to change one or two words a message that make absolutely no sense. Also, if your word has less than five letters, good luck, might as well just type it in because the keyboard will never get the right one.

Worse part is I have to sit there and stare at the screen like a knob to make sure 1) the word I trace is the word I actually want it to put in and 2) because there is 0 tactile response by design, I have to watch to make sure I'm tracing the word properly. It kills my ability to multitask.

Children and hip 20 somethings are ruining the cellphone industry by shifting the focus to aesthetics rather than hardware features.
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>>42986258
those where good times, when some of your friends went with a new phone, and everyone was like: oh look, which games does it have? does it have infrared? can you play music? does it have X thing?
as you say, now the phones are all looking the same, and then is Apple appealing that someone copy the size of their screws, it sucks a lot

how the hell they did those modifications? NSA has interesting technology
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>>42984187
OP I always wanted a Nokia E7. SOO fucking badly
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>>42986462

>those where good times, when some of your friends went with a new phone, and everyone was like: oh look, which games does it have? does it have infrared? can you play music? does it have X thing?

I remember those days. Especially when someone got a Razr after they had been out.

>how did they make it so thin
>I heard the screen is 3D
>I heard the buttons are touch buttons!

Infrared was cool too.

>hey man, can you send X (game, usually) to me?
>sure
>hold devices at the same level and begin the transfer
>what are you guys doing?
>GO AWAY DON'T DISRUPT THE BEAM
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http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Unlocked-Touchscreen-Navigation-Camera-U-S/dp/B0046LTU9G

nokia E7 for like 2hunna dollars.
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>>42986529

If only those phones would drop in price since, you know, they're over half a decade old. In person you could probably get one for $10 but on Ebay it's nothing but "Nokia n86 8mp great smartphone for all of your smartphone needs with industry-leading 8mp camera $125 no charger or battery".
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>>42986425
Swype works for me
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>>42985820
That doesn't register, because they stop selling that shit within 6 months and the only way you can get it is via resellers with old stock.

If the N5 had a keyboard option out of the gate as a first-tier option, _that_ would probably register.
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>>42986532
Holy shit Palm was fucking GOAT for its time. Can't believe they're gone now, they had some amazing shit. I own a Tungsten C and a T|X myself, great little machines
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>>42986462
>>42986532

>does it have infrared?
>Infrared was cool too.

At least with NFC and Bluetooth that feel of file sharing is still alive, but nothing matches irDA. Plus you could install universal remote programs and control TVs.
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>>42986587

It's Handspring, not Palm. Handspring was bought by Palm, eventually. Too bad that the Springboard modules never really took off, oddly though you can fit a PCMCIA card in the Springboard expansion slot since it's the same dimensions and pin count. It won't work, of course. The PalmOne Treo 600 actually still has Handspring markings on the motherboard inside.

>Yeah it's like a PDA but with GSM, phone capabilities AND a VGA camera! Plus SD and Infrared.
>So....I can hotsync using a cell network and don't have to get email manually from docking anymore?
>GLORIOUS
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I miss my 8125
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>>42986069
That keyboard looks like it feels good on the fingers.
I've used the G1, the G1, and this thing (HTC espresso). Of these I think I liked the G1 keyboard the most.
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>>42986712
The G1 and the G2*
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>>42986712
>>42986733
they look comfortable,I like the second one more
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>>42985362
Nokia and Samsung have a clam shell phones coming out but will probably only be in Asian market
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>>42986763
I'm still waiting for something to replace the G1, nothing ever will though. That curve, that keyboard, that spring, that physical trackball. Sex.

I really don't like these digital trackpads, they're shitty to use a lot of the time.
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>>42986529
>>42986563
come on guys, it comes with symbian
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>>42986837

They should be charging less for that.

>>42986793

I wish I could find a G2 somewhere. I think there's still up to date ROMs for it.
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>>42986944

I forgot: I loved that home/menu/back/search arrangement. Why it's now back/home/recent apps I'll never know.
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>>42984187
I feel your pain OP. I can't bear the thought of having to use a phone without a physical QWERTY. It's just so much faster for me.

I use an old cheap samsung, pic related. it was 40 bucks for a refurb & I use AT&T prepaid, cause I'm a poorfag.

If you can deal with the shortcomings, it's not too bad. First, there seems to be no way to root last time I checked. So it's stuck on Gingerbread and only has half a gig of RAM and kinda shit resolution . But if you can deal with that, it's a decent 800Mhz dualcore with microSD slot, HSPDA 3G, wifi, and all the standard smartphone shit. For a poorfag like me it's not too terrible, and as mentioned I really like having a physical keyboard. In my experience, they tend to lag a lot less, for one thing.
I pay 40 bucks a month for 500 minutes, unlimited texts, and a paltry half gig data plan. But I use Opera mobile, which uses their servers to do compression & reduce data use by almost 90%. I've never run out, and often have half of that 500 megs left at the end of the monthy billing. Of course, I can't use youtube or pandora or anything like that unless I'm on wifi, but I can do that at home and at work, so in my case that half gig of data is actually more than enough. I'm happy with my phone & plan anyway, and isn't that what matters? Pretty sure Tmobile couldn't give me a better deal. AT&T's prepaid really is the best, even if they are admittedly a shitty company overall.
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>>42986944
Well... there's amazon, but a with high prices :(
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itt
>massive case of baby duck wahhhh wahhhhh muh physical keyboard wahhhh wahhhhh
grow the fuck up hispterfaggots, i can go 80wpm on a touch screen and so can you with a month of use
thank fucking god half of my screen isn't dedicated to a shitty uncustomizable shit useless keyboard
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Why not get one of those book-style cases for your phone and attach a bluetooth keyboard to the other side of it? Not ideal but it's most of the way there.
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>>42987008
>stop liking what I don't like
>please give me attention
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Still using muh trusted G2(Desire Z) with 4.4.2
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>>42987008
I wonder if it's just one idiot always using the same buzzwords because these posts are starting to look too identical.
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>>42987049
glorious
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I wonder if the sidekick 4g can be upgraded from froyo, 2014 and froyo aren't good friends
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>>42987151
didnt they have ics roms?q
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>>42987332
I don't know, but being stuck in froyo is bad, maybe there are upgrades
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>>42987151
go take a look at xda
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n900 still works for me,it's still usable after 5 years.
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>>42987412
hell yeah! they have a board for that device, I own a galaxy poket neo and there's no activity for it
the bad part:
>tfw no friends to text with that glorious keyboard
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>>42987049
mah nigga
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Motorola Photon Q, you pricks.

It's not a 10/10, but it certainly gets the job done.
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>>42988038
muh negro

yeah the phone is outdated by today's standards but it's still a solid performer


Pros:
>keyboard
>microSD slot
>micro HDMI
>doesn't feel cheep
>decent rom support (msm8960)

Cons:
>battery not easily replaceable
>qHD screen
>back camera could perform better
>I somehow keep unlocking the device in my pocket unlike any other phone I have owned
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>>42988160
>battery not easily replaceable
I hear you there. I didn't feel like dropping 250$ on repairs when my screen shattered, but I learned how to take the phone apart and just bought new parts myself. Was a really fun experience, and saved me a ton of money. I'd probably care more about the camera and whatnot if I actually used it, but I have the phantom unlock problem as well.
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>>42988206
>but I have the phantom unlock problem as well
nice to know I'm not the only one, I have a lock pattern now after pocket-dailing 3 of my contacts
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>>42985794
i was looking at this one but ended up just paying 25 bucks for another phone that works well enough for me.

would have been good if I had the money to get that one though.
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>>42984187
all i want is a bezel less curved slide out w/ physical keys, is that so much to ask
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Get BlackBerry!
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>>42985564
>typing faster on the touchscreen

I don't have to look at keyboard while typing on hardware one and never ever make any mistakes.

Still use prototype xpera pro as my daily but phone is really dated now, biggest drawback is 512mb ram.
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>>42984474
>Why the fuck are there no phones with physical keyboards anymore?

Because the NSA/Verizon/Sprint/AT&T/T-Mobile/Apple/Motorola/Google are blazing f&$#ing idiots with almost zero desire to innovate & allow a broad range of consumer choices.
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>>42984187
>http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NOKIA-N950-Developer-Device-RARE-/221487903735

Also

$1,022.53 USD for a piece of f$&#ing shit baby computer

WHAT. THE. FUCK.

Shit should cost $50 bucks with NO additional cost per month beyond $30

Class warfare, social inequality mother fuckers EH O_O

And they want you to PAY to get SPIED ON by the NSA & DoD!

LOL.

What happened to simply STRIVING TO INCREASE individual productivity, convenience, & relatively minor "power"?

The economy is fucked because corporations have gone SO LONG INCREASING PROFITS & PRICES without increasing wages.

The Labor Force Participation Rate is so low because nobody wants to deal with smug, arrogant managers for bottom dollar slave wages that can't give you independence & the capacity to have a hobby or 3.

Drugs. Sex. Technology. Property. Skills. Relief. Friends. Power.

I mean, what else can a human chase?

And what does a smartphone even do for you that makes you give 2 fucks about jumping through so many hoops?

Can help you:

< network more effectively

< develop / sell apps

< be a high-risk taxi driver

< price-check competitors

< haggling

< record all sundry of things (lecture, crime, emo events)

< MP3 player, song-radar

< constellation view on the fly

< compass

< pay bills on the fly

< read anywhere & anything on the fly

< ready data storage / transmission

Psh.

Psh indeed.

ferkn smiurt phernz
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>>42984187

>1320 mAh battery
>kek
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>>42984187
looks like a E7 redesigned
>nokia e7 master race
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>>42989889
>>1320 mAh battery
>>kek

What are some up to these days?

3500 mAh or ??

Battery rechargers have great longevity & capacity.

15,000++ mAh if I recall

Yeah an inconvenience

But again

WHOSE FAULT IS IT?

>>42989730
>Because the NSA/Verizon/Sprint/AT&T/T-Mobile/Apple/Motorola/Google are blazing f&$#ing idiots with almost zero desire to innovate & allow a broad range of consumer choices.
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>>42989914
>looks like a E7 redesigned
>>nokia e7 master race

pls die

no removable battery

no SD card slot

no

pls go
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>>42989997
>you can remove the battery.... if you open the case.
>16 GB of internal memory why you need more?
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>>42990016
>>16 GB of internal memory why you need more?

wow well I guess you clearly dont work at Lockheed like I do I must regularly carry 40 jiggabits of sensitive code on my smartphone to my home PC to collab through encrypted cloud IDEs

[email protected] millennial noobshit
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>>42985725
Album art works wonders with a screen like that.
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>>42990044
>hurrr durr what is a personal server
>what is a cloud service
>hurrr durr mu freedums
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>>42984474
Because bigger screens allow for more advertisements.
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I've been using this phone for years and have zero desire to upgrade to a smart phone
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>>42986966
You can get 200 minutes, 500 texts and 500MB every month for free from freedompop. They run on the sprint network and you can probably pick up a compatible used sprint phone off ebay for $40.
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Photon Q is the best QWERTY smartphone you can buy, but has no sim slot and is CDMA

Droid 4 is the second best, has a sim slot, slightly weaker, but far easier to use. CM11 / Android 4.4.4 works perfectly fine on them.
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>>42988160

>>micro HDMI

Why did that dissapear again? Shit was cool.
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Is this a good price?
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>>42984187
I still have and use the Samsung Transform Ultra. Sure it's not great, but I like having the physical keyboard and the fact that it doesn't have GPS always on,
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This phone had a keyboard that felt amazing to type on all the time. It's too bad everything else on the phone was severely outdated, including the network.
If I could have a more modern version of one of these, with removable battery, expandable storage, no buttons on front, open source, and at least a 10MP camera with a big lens, I'd be happy.
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>>42990281
>physical smiley button
...
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OG Droid was the best
good form factor, felt sturdy

too bad the successors had shit support and custom ROMs were broken because Motorola had some propietary shit in there that they never could get working properly
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>>42990267
yes it is i would recommend you to buy a protection case.. i have the same phone broke after a fall but easy to repiar.. and shit its cool like solid ice in the morning.
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>>42986564
underage b& detected
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>>42990296
tbh, i never really noticed that.
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>>42990296
Give the people what they want. It's obvious that there are many people who would make use of it.
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Good for SNES games. Sucks that the SD cart slot is located behind the battery.


I'll probably start using a 'passed-down' iPhone 5 later in the year if a new QWERTY doesn't pop up
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>>42990296
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>>42990220
mhl partly to blame
plus low demand
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>good fucking music hardware
>music buttons on the side
>Ngage buttons to play ngage games
>Ngage.. resident evil, brothers in arms
man.. dem games
>SNES smulators..
any of you guys remember Ngage?

fuck i'm sad now gonna buy one from ebay
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>>42984187
Nokia communicators?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_E7-00
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>>42985362
Go through all the Japanese phone sites. Loads of these, really awesome ones too.
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Still waiting for this
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>>42986069
In Australia that was called the HipTop, the only Sidekick to make it to this country.
It didn't get here until people started importing the older Sidekicks though.

>those system cheat codes to play a game
>system codes to play a game
>codes
>to
>play
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>>42990443
>unofficial fan art
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>>42989859

> Can help you:

< troubleshoot on the fly

< troubleshoot your crashed PC / internet if you only have 1 PC
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>>42985564
dont EVEN give me that shit, swype fucking retarded
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>>42990456
prototype
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>>42990173
I'm jelly.
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>>42989859
You forgot:

< Mobile tracking device
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>>42986767
>>42990396
It's already hard for me to get an old ThinkPad, getting phones from Nihon is out of the question.
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>>42990608
Docomo and Samsung have some pretty sweet stuff do'
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Maybe because every phone that tried was a piece of shit.
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>>42984751
>http://neo900.org/

This is glorious, I'm in.
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Sidekick 4G

Nice keyboard, shit everything else.
Personally I love it.
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All integrated physical keyboards on handheld devices are inadequate. That Hacker Keyboard app is the best Android solution I've found for being able to do terminal shit on a phone.
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>>42991128
>hacker keyboard
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>>42990986
Don't get your hopes up too high. They're still not sure if the Wi-Fi is completely free and there is definitely no free GPU driver.
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>>42985794
seems retarded to pay that much for a dumbphone when you have phones like the moto g for marginally more

I'd rather just pay $20 for some cheap burn phone that'll work just as fast with the same battery life

the advantage of smartphones is that you can do a lot more than just text and call with them

getting an expensive dumbphone just screams hipster to me
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>>42991166
I didn't write the damn thing.
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For iPhones you can get keyboard cases that slide out
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OP here, and I just found the Samsung i927, looks pretty good.
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>>42984474
While all the answers you've received are valid to a point, I'm still surprised that there's nothing. Kinda seems to me like the big businesses are "leaving customers on the table", if you know what I mean.
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>>42984187
Fuck I'd love a slide out qwerty on my note 3
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>>42990538
>systemd
;_;
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>>42984751
So basically.... It's a fucking tinker toy.
I want it.
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o hai guys

>Superior build quality
>Awesome square screen: Because, you know, some of us have jobs and don't fucking watch movies on a tiny cellphone screen
>Fucking expensive
>mfw it's pretty much as close as we'll get to a Thinkpad phone.
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>>42987008
>I can go 80wpm on a touchscreen
As someone who can go 147wpm on my mechanical keyboard, and uses a Galaxy S3 on a daily basis, I highly doubt you can actually type anywhere near that fast on a touchscreen.
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>>42990485
Retarded, but it has the world record for mobile typing speeds. It is objectively the best/fastest way to type on a phone.
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>>42993809
Yeah he's bullshitting. The world record for mobile typing is about 50WPM and was done with Swype.
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>>42985859
But they are already ultra durable due form factor.
They are technically humidity proof due form factor.
Same with crush.
Cum needs zalo or real dishing solutions.

At worst you might want to buy a film to put over the screen to avoid scratching, and cleaning it properly between films.

>>42985794
Sounds neat.
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