You have 10 seconds to explain why your next build won't

But it will

Because cooling

Why do you think mITX is quiet? You need to use 90mm fans (loud), there's little airflow (loud), and you can't use a big HSF (loud)

Aand most people aren't concerned about an extra square foot used by an ATX case and don't move their desktops often

>>42957226
Not enough drive bays
No space for multiple video cards
I have space on my desk so I don't need muh smallness

>>42957226
>Portable
towers have shit portability anyway
>quiet
housefires incoming
>hurr no rice
ricers will find a way to put 9001 xXpR0g4m3rZXx leds anyway

Oh but it will. Caselabs mercury S3 has room for two double thick 240mm rads and an optional pedestal that will fit another two. Double thick rads = low speed fans = quiet as fuck.

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Leave the portability to the company who actually knows how to do it, k?

I don't really give a fuck as long as it stays out of sight

>portable

Buy a laptop poorfag. Actually, if your desktop is that small and you have no cooling or space concerns, you could probably get by with just a laptop.

>portability
if you need that get a laptop

But my own next build probably will be a micro ITX, because htpc. I've already almost got my ideal desktop.

Price? Cooling? Expandability? Sausage-like Fingers?

I have a Silverstone RVZ01 and it's fairly quiet, and in person it's actually quite reserved in terms of design, not too GAMER at least in my opinion.

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>>42957226
>>portable
Irrelevant. It sits under my receiver.
>>quiet
So? An ATX system should generate more noise.
>>inherently mature (no room for rice)
>posts case with window
That's dumb.

Also, the Node 605 is sexy as fuck.
>dat 8mm aluminium

If this was meant as a jab to Corsair 900D owners and other such spergs, then do continue.

>>42957343
Two workstation cards that can't into 10 bit. Three devices attached to a single heat sink. This shit is the funniest fucking thing I've ever seen.

>>42957226
>>42957226
You have 10 seconds to explain why your next build won't be a Macbook.

>portable
>quiet
>inherently mature (no room for rice)

>>42957343
The concept of a portable workstation still kind of baffles me. I mean, it's cool, and I'm sure there are a few instances where it might make sense... But it's called a work station for a reason....

>>42957365
>So? An ATX system should generate more noise.
There was supposed to be a "not" somewhere with all that.

>>42957382
Macbooks are actually very riceable as far as laptops go

Metal is easier to shape than plastic.

mine is micro itx

it sits next to my tv

>>42957387
>The concept of a portable workstation still kind of baffles me
Probably because there is no such thing.

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>>42957226
>not going nano-ITX

Mature people don't play games.

>>42957382
Because I use unreal and vs on the daily.

>inhernetly mature

if you are worried about being "mature" you are not mature

>>42957423
Are VIA systems worth a damn or used at all now?

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>>42957434
superiority implying statement on the internet

dibs furdera

>>42957226
Its going to be, I like the babby tower.

But no one wants to buy my current rig :(

>>42957322
>having any optical drives at all
>buying into the scam that is sli
Pathetic

>>42957226
My current build is Micro-ATX.

My next build will not be.

What bothers me the most is that all the cables are designed for a full ATX, and the build ends up being extremely cluttered.

>>42957226
There's no point in building a mini ITX. NUC or prefab solutions will be better for low-power builds and ATX will be better for high-power builds.

>>42957457
Sell the parts from it.

>>42957462
>drive bays
I'm sure anon wants more hard drives.

>>42957462
I use my multiple cards to drive six monitors. If you have more than one slot you can do that easily and cheaply, you can't if you have at most one slot and strict size/thermal constraints.

I use my optical drive to make regular backups.

My next build will probably be something smaller than what I have now.
I've got a full ATX in my Antec 302, and it's so large it doesn't fit on my desk.

>>42957505
too much aggrivation.

Besides I have a good pc, no reason to upgrade for a while.

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Mini ITX Master race.
Current setup, i7 3770, 8gb Ram, r9 270x, 128gb SSD, 2+1+.25 TB HDD.

>>42957445
I think you just proved his point.

>>42957226
Because I'm gonna use 2 grafics cards

>>42957537
Please tell me that you don't use your build for gaming only.

>>42957537
Same case as my build. How did you find cable management? Can you post some more photos from other angles?

I fucking hated this case because it just ended up being big cables stuffed into a tiny space.

>>42957226
I'd only build one if I could guarantee that it would be silent AND capable of playing the majority of emulators such as PCSX2 and Dolphin comfortably without making a fucking sound.
Not a peep.

It would also have to be completely fanless and cute. Sadly, nothing out there currently could match my rediculous demands.

>>42957537

got the same case

removed a lot of stuff from it to improve airflow and cable management, replaced the HDD cage with one from a bitfenix prodigy for some extra room

>>42957226
itx mobos are ugly cramped shit and what sort of a faggot uses only 1 pcie slot

>>42957575
That is a google stock photo, let me see if I have some saved around...

>>42957599
>itx mobos are ugly cramped shit
/fa/ pls

>what sort of a faggot uses only 1 pcie slot
A lot of people it seems. What do you have that occupies more than 1 lane?

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>>42957226

People who buy big cases are just compensating.

>>42957441
They're trying to push recently onto the bottom level market currently occupied by AMD Kaveri
Apparently they made a lot of progress on the IPC
It's still probably ARM shit though

>>42957575
I have the smaller version with no 5" bay. Cable management doesn't matter because you can't see anything. If you can put the top and sides on without anything sticking out, you've done well.

>>42957599
>what sort of a faggot uses only 1 pcie slot

Anyone who doesn't do SLI/Crossfire, doesn't use wi-fi on a desktop since it's fucking retarded, and don't use a shitty placebo sound card.

Looks like there are lots of faggots out there.

>>42957647
Hahahahaha, when i first made mine, i had a non-modular PSU in there. It literally took me an hour to manage to stuff the cables into any crevice available and put the case on.

It was the most disgusting shit in history.

>>42957632
Poor AMD. Everyone wants to take their place.

>It's still probably ARM shit though
They do make x86.

>>42957599

>complaining about 1 pcie port

>waaah muh crossfire waaah

fuck off dipshit

>>42957658
Most Micro ITX motherboards these days have a Mini PCIE slot for Wifi.

>>42957624
>What do you have that occupies more than 1 lane?
a single graphics card and a dedicated soundcard at least
various output interface expansions
better itx boards get so fucking cramped they have to put VRM's and mosfets onto a separate vertical pcb and put various connectors in weirdass positions
also keep in mind that not everyone is running a "gayming rig" that only has one shitty gpu
itx is special use and recent mainstream popularity is just a fad

What is a good small case for one?

>>42957658
video capture
multiple NICs
a proper RAID controller
legacy (serial/parallel/IDE/etc) interface cards
additional USB root ports

there are lots of reasons to want more than one slot

ITT: fags that don't use based AMD APU

A single PCI-e slot is a slot too much

>>42957629
i have that antec its fucking shit and a dust magnet

>>42957720
How hot do they run?

>>42957720
>computers are for video games

>>42957703
Almost nobody here uses any of that because this thread is full of /v/irgin faggots that don't know shit about tech
Unless you're building a specialized one time build with almost no room for expansion, you should steer clear of itx
and OP's statement is wrong 2/3
itx cases are cramped as fuck and that sure does not make them quiet or cool
And there's still plenty of space for rice, he's just delusional

>>42957759
>running video games on AMD anything

I need space for six harddrives.

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>>42957226
>implying my current build isn't Micro-ITX
FD CORE 1000 FAGGOTS
i don't even use case fans

>>42957803
I could do that.... with laptop hard drives :^)

>>42957809
>Micro-ITX
That's not a thing.

>>42957809
Info on your build and its capabilities please? Sound levels, temps etc would be nice if you've got time.

>>42957809
>implying that shit can be considered as small

If you use only 1 PCIexpress slot and it's for muh grafx card, you should close this thread and fuck off back to /v/
Or better yet, fuck off to r/games or something, there's enough shit on /v/ as it is

>>42957809
>i don't even use case fans
retardalert.png

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It's MINI-ITX, MICRO-ATX.
There's no such thing as Micro-ITX.

>>42957833
>>42957853
Autism alert.

>>42957886
I admit it's autism, but in this thread people are confusing the two sizes, look at >>42957809.

>>42957849
I haven't actually played any games on my PC since I built it last week, but I use a GTX 470 since the motherboard has no video outputs.

>>42957886
Things would be easier if you stopped being so wrong anon.

ITT butthurt full size atx owners

>>42957940
But my Node 605 has almost the exact same size as most receivers and it looks perfect next to one.

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>>42957836
>pic
CPU or video card don't go hotter than 60? in games, the system is really quiet when doing light work and with HDD turned off.
>>42957840
>>42957913
I picked it up mainly because of its price, but it's also not as huge as other FD cases.
>>42957852
I'm not a fan of fans.

>>42957940
I'm using a HAF 912 and I'm pretty butt hurt that I don't get to enjoy having a small computer!

>>42957226
because im poor

>>42957277
/thread

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http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/FwJnyc

this case is so fucking baller but it's kinda ricey

>>42957226
because there's no such thing.

>>42957226
Because there is no form factor called micro-itx.

>>42957809
>micro itx
the core 1000 is micro-atx
>that top-mounted psu
disgusting

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>>42957833
>>42957853
>>42958290
>>42958434

>>42958525
Why don't you fly the wafflewaggonn?

That's not a real thing.

>Man you are so autism.

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>>42957886
>>42958525
Oh no they pointed out my mistake! Better call them autistic an hope that nobody notices my samefagging!

>>42958525
>epig mumu breh :DDD

>>42957537
How's it run? Does it throttle much? what sort of a PSU do I need?
I know its just a stock pic, but that looks beautiful to me.

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>>42958581

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>>42958586
>>42958593

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>>42958586
Your luck: outlook bad

>>42957462

>faggy hate on optical drives

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>>42958639
I too know how to use inspect element.

>>42958525
>>42958607
>>42958618
/g/: buzzword central

>>42957508
Just buy hard drives to make back ups, it's probably cheaper.

>>42958654
>faggy hate on zip drives

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>>42958656
Whatever.

Because expansion cards.

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Oh, but it is, OP...

Why do you assume I'd build an entirely new computer instead of upgrading my current one?

Oh, but it will. I'm gonna pick the cheapest case and board, put a 7850K in it and use it as does-the-job-for-now gayman, then either employ as htpc or let my mother inherit as facebook machine.

>>42958950
>670
>Reference cooler
You must be a hardcore masochist to like that jet engine space heater.

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Because only manchildren use pcs.

>>42959011
>he isn't a hardcore masochist
>he doesn't use linux/gnu
>on /g/
get the fuck out

>>42959011
>Blower cooler getting direct air from intake
>Pushing it directly out case rear.

I think it'll be fine.

>fiber nics
>raid card
>video card
>serial port card

maybe if all you do is gaym then itx would be alright, however a real computer needs much more room than that

>>42958978
Because /g/ seems to think shit needs an upgrade when something new comes out. And since /g/ is full of Intel fanboys, a CPU upgrade means a motherboard upgrade.

>>42959087
>Gigabit Ethernet ain't enough?
>pfft RAID's not worth it.
>that's what the PCIe slot's for
>wtf do I need serial for?

>>42959025
Good luck cooking your bollocks.

>>42959128
>fiber is cool
>raid is cool
>games are cool
>embedded projects are cool

I am building an itx as my first desktopthough. Still not sure what case I want to get. The Hadron Air looks nice if it weren't for that ricer tier side window and shitty PSU fan. I'm leaning on the CM Elite 130 in case I ever want to actually use a graphics card later on. Any thoughts?

Will have to drive a minicoop also?

>>42959191
show me a fiber nic, every provider I know shoves the fiber in a box they give you which outputs ethernet.
>RAID, fundamental argument. not gonna bother asking why
>Vidya, you can fit vid cards in mini-ITX builds
>embedded/serial. there are USB converters for that.

>>42959223
Corsair 250D is a great case

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>>42959223
I'm planning to use this micro ATX/miniITX case, the Jonsbo C2. It's around $30 on Aliexpress

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I can't stand those little things.

THIS CRUSHES YOUR PUNY COMPUTER.

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>>42959263
Are you retarded?
>USB converters
Problematic. The only way to guarantee it's correct is to use a real port or an expansion card port.

>>42957226
>You have 10 seconds to explain why your next build won't be a Micro-ITX.
Because I don't like having to take apart 50%+ of the machine (and then put it back together) to install/replace/remove one component.

Yes, I have an ITX machine as well. Yes, it's a pain in the ass to work with.

>>42959312
Rose will has also imported a lot of other Jonsbo cases like the U2/U3 and the V3+/V4

>>42959367
Thats one of the huge problems I have with those types of PCs.

>>42957226
I like to triple SLI

>>42957226
Because my next build will be a tablet.

NO RICE NO LIFE

>>42959312

Wait, you can buy computer components on Aliexpress? Fuck Newegg then.

Do you really need a fan in the front?

Eventually I plan to get a mATX, 1 ssd, 1hdd, setup, with whatever intel midline chip and whatever midline ati/nvidea bang for buck gpu.

Could I get away with it since I keep things at stock? I want to make it quiet without going water.

I have too many hard drives to fit in a MATX case.

It would be sweet otherwise.

>>42959128
>Gigabit Ethernet ain't enough?
Not at all
>pfft RAID's not worth it.
How so?
>that's what the PCIe slot's for
Yeah, and what about the other cards?
>wtf do I need serial for?
Projects, a terminal.

>>42959617
I hope so, shipping could be a problem. It's even cheaper on other Taobao agents.

>>42959324
MY EYES

>>42959636
Bottom/side intakes should be fine for that

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>>42957508

>Backing up to DVD's

>>42959774
Would there be fans at those intakes?

A single 120 in the back be insufficient for the whole setup?

>>42959944
What case?

>>42959978
A future case undetermined.

>>42960046
mATX cases usually don't have a rear fan, PSU fan acts as exhaust. Your components shouldnt have problems with cooling anyway. Perhaps find a good low profile CPU cooler like the Thermalright AXP-100

It was going to be, until a friend sold me an 8350 and a Gigabyte 990fx ud5 for $100.

>>42960113
I see good to know.

not enough room for more than like 2 hard drives, and good fucking luck messing around with anything inside once it is put together with full sized gpu

they are fine for building a setup for your parents or something that doesnt need beefy hardware, but i am going full sized on my next build, i am through dealing with mid sized atx cases

>>42957226
because I use a normal atx case for space, easy to work with and great airflow...

>>42958667
Not to mention safer

>>42957382
Macbooks are actually the most riced out laptops that I see. I always see people who have shitty stickers on them, or even plastic cases.

Too little room unless you use smaller components. Cable management a shit

Micro atx is still king

>>42960622
There need to be more mATX sli boards.

>>42959223
Get the elite 110. Everything good about the 120/130 and none of the bad (optical drive, massive space waster, etc). MSI makes a decent GPU specifically for itx so you're fine there.

>>42957226
It's going to be.

>>42957462
Optical drives make installing shit (mainly windows shit) much easier.

>>42957423
>real people don't need graphics cards

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>>42957441
I have a VIA micro ITX board with some VIA processor I can't recall the name of. Does fine to pay movies and junk on my living room TV. The built in fan for the cpu is tiny but loud as fuck.

>having to sacrafice workspace in a case as well as deal with potential air flow issues just so I can waive my dick around in these threads
no thanks. I prefer a fromfactor that gives me room for neat cable management and radiator space

>>42957886
>confusing two words
>autism

Bitch, the only reason we can communicate right now is because there is a relatively agreed meaning to each word we are using. Is that autism, you dumb fucking /g/ fuckwit?

If only you tards knew that there were so many better places than /g/. Peel a few of the good ones away from /g/ every now and then and you end up with a spicy kind of secret society.

>>42958654
Makes sense if space is a concern, or if there is literally zero use for any.

>>42958683
>2014
>unrelated posts
shiggy

>>42957322
i haven't had a optical drive on my computer for years now. I seriously have never needed it.

>mITX quiet
I have a midtower with a x79 MOBO, an I7-3820 and 32G Quad-channel RAM so i can run plenty of VMs and do heavy duty editing.
And it's completely silent!

On the other hand a friend needed a PC for gaming only.
I build him a mITX rig that he has had no complaints about.
I think maybe you'd fit in better on /vg/

>>42957322
Check out the 250d

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>>42957226

Because my last one was and it was still the same old noisy hot ricer shit without any of the advantages of a big ass ricer box, like room for expansion and room to put your hands when routing cables.

I came to my senses finally and got a NUC. Fuck your lego toys, I'm done with that. My computer was built with the tiny, tiny hands of Chinese factory children.

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I´d need a good horizontal micro case with at least 500w
Something along the size of an xbone that can hold my 660ti.

Anyone got an idea? A neat design would be cool too but not really too important.

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>>42957226
because I already own some shiny chineses.

Muh capture card
My HDDs full of chinese cartoons
Muh 6300

It is going to be. I am mega-stoked. Waiting for skylake to jump from my 2500k.

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because the fractal design define xl r2 can have 100800 square milimeters of radiator with 14 noctua nf-f12 industrials in a nice, minimalistic design

Not enough drive bays, absolutely no expandability, usually bad temps.

MicroATX with a MiniTX footprint is where it's at, that's why I love my SG09B.

>>42958586
Everybody who saw "micro itx" knew what he meant. No need to point it out.

If I wanted a small, quiet PC I would get a Mac Mini or an NUC.
If I wanted something with a powerful CPU and a dedicated graphics, I would get a real case.
Mini-ITX is too big to be a small computer, and too small to be a normal computer. It has no niche.

What's the point of a desktop if there's no room for expandability? What's the point when cooling issues limit your choices?

>Compact!

Do you live in your bedroom? Most of us have large desks we hide our boxes under.

>portable!

Are you too poor for a laptop?

>Quiet!

Does your OS have shit fan control? Do you not suspend to RAM at night?

>Inherently mature

Oh yeah, you're some kid trying to be mature and minimalist. I'll keep my giant black box.

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>>42964649
I am gonna be working on a ship soon and I can´t go 5 months without my gaymens.

And a laptop would be too expensive so I can get a neat micro case and have that with me.

>>42964604
The niche is smallest form-factor that supports full-performance CPU and GPU.

>>42964743
Yeah and it's really bad at it. That's not called a niche. That's called bad design.

Because I don't take my computer outside and want room for videocards and fans.

>>42961666
>what is bootable usb

>>42957343
>Trashcan pro
Macs have always had terrible cooling, but the old Mac Pros were ok, so they couldn't let that continue. These things will explode the instant you try to use them at their full potential like any other Mac.

>>42957343
>knows how to do it
>desktop computer that cannot handle full load because it has to throttle to prevent overheating
Always remember, no matte what the marketing tells you, Apple is not magic.

>>42957290
confirmed for never building a mITX before. The thing about mITX isn't sound, cause most components nowadays are quiet as fuck. The thing you should be worrying about is heat.

>>42967128
And heat causes fans to run constantly which make sound. Do you understand this?

>>42967148
And your fans don't run constantly in an ATX build, sounds about right. Fucking retard.

>>42967199
What the fuck are you doing that your fans run constantly in an ATX build? And why the fuck would you want to do that same thing in a mini-ITX build?

>>42967211
So you don't run fans on your heatsink?

So you don't run fans on your rads?

The thing is fans, even 90mm fans are pretty much silent.

>> 42967247
Fuck 90mm, I can fit a 140mm fan even in this obscenely small case:
>> 42959312
Plenty of low profile HSFs are also relatively quiet too.

>>42967308
who u quot?

>>42967339
Sorry.
>>42959312

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This is my current ITX LAN build.
The case itself has awful cooling and isn't space efficient, however I plan to fix this by converting it into mATX.

>>42957537
>i7
>r9 270x
Unbalanced as fuck.
>stock amd fan
What are you doing? I know that mini-itx doesn't cope well with aftermarket fans due to size, but why not just get a nvidia card and the reference cooler rather than having to deal with a jet engine fan?

Okay, someone show me a Micro ITX build that can hold one full speed infiniband card and one double height GPU.

>>42957226
But I already have an ITX box and it's my one and only desktop.

Are fanless power supplies worth it if I don't game or do intensive graphic stuff?

>>42957226
Why would I want to torture myself while installing my parts to a micro-itx?

If you were "inherently mature" you would actually understand what real maturity is, and that is being able to understand be ok with other people's differences.

Not like 4chan where everyone else's way is wrong.

>>42959087
>serial port card
Why? Your motherboard probably has that built in already. More new has the serial and parallel port headers next to the bottom pcie slot. Just need the correct ribbon cable to use it.

Most likely will be matx.

Bit more room, more options, still small and portable if need be though

>>42967705
>More new
Most new motherboards

>>42966199
PowerMac G5 and the old Mac Pro both had god tier cooling

>>42967690
But you're wrong

>>42964071
how is it?
I was thinking about it but I felt it was a bit underpowered

>>42967827
But no dust filters.

Fuck, some of those I opened up were just wrecked by dust.

>>42968367
I've got a PowerMac G5 that strangely remains dust free

>>42957226
because there is no such thing as Micro-ITX

>>42968546
Oh shit

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>>42957226
I had a Micro-ATX I was able to get for free.

I am absolutely not a fan of how cramped they are. Most graphics cards won't even fit.

Bigger is better.

>>42957226
Because I use a Micro-BTX master race
>Form factor literally designed for perfect airflow of modern components
CPU doesn't even require a fan, the whole case just needs one intake fan and one exhause fan and it runs in the 50s at most

>Inherently mature
>A fucking computer case
Jesus Christ, just buy a cheap case