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x264 where do we go from here? ive seen bluray rips as small

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where do we go from here?

ive seen bluray rips as small as just 2-300mb with no compression artefacts (sure they look a bit blurry based on fitting it to a 1080p resolution screen)
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Stop being blind.
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>>42831824
2 GB 1080p rips look like horse shit.

As for the future Daala looks like it might be interesting. Unlike H265 which is mostly incremental

https://xiph.org/daala/
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>>42831824
Your eyes are shit OP
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>>42831824

>with no compression artefacts

lol are you blind?

Also

>2.0 96kbps AAC audio
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>>42831946

>caring about audio
>muh 7.1 headphones
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An actual bluray looks really good compared to any encode from it, even really huge anime encodes.

Pic related, it's Lain BDMV.
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>>42832478
Point is, we need to either just release bluray remuxes, or have good lossless encoding. That's the next step.
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>>42831824
>ive seen bluray rips as small as just 2-300mb with no compression artefacts
ITT: OP talks out of his ass
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>>42832344
>not caring about audio
Surround sound headphones are a gimmick 100%

96kbps audio..... what the fuck I wouldn't even listen to anything less than 320kbps mp3's
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>>42832518
MP3s are shit though.
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>>42831873
>Unlike H265 which is mostly incremental
HEVC cuts filesizes in half, that's no small feat. Daala looks great but it's not meant to compete with HEVC it's meant to compete with codecs that come after HEVC and it probably wont be coming out anytime soon it's still very much in development.
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>>42832548
I know, even 16bit FLACs don't do it for me anymore...
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>>42832344
You know a lot of people have multi-channel home theater set ups right?
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>>42832478
Anime blurays especially have a lot of problems like banding and aliasing. Any encoder who knows what he's doing will fix those and thus the encode has a good chance of looking better than the original BD.
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>>42832478
Here's a better example. BDMVs look better with remastered old animes that have a lot of grain.
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>>42831824
>ive seen bluray rips as small as just 2-300mb with no compression artefacts
You should probably go see a doctor.
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Is this a convoluted YIFI shill thread?
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>>42832638
>Anime blurays especially have a lot of problems like banding and aliasing

Many do, that's just a fact of life. What encoders do is not "fixing it". There's no possible way to fix it, it's masking over it with filters. The process of encoding, especially with debanding or denoising filters, kills a lot of detail. Having that detail in there looks a fuck load better than the finished encode.

If you've ever watched BDs, and had a good monitor/video-player, and weren't blind, you would see the huge difference in quality. Everything looks sharper, less flat, it's so much more detailed. Still screenshots don't do it that much justice, it's really during playback the difference becomes the most noticeable.

> the encode has a good chance of looking better than the original BD.

This gets more every time I hear it. It's just so stupid. Stop drinking the kool-aid.
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>>42832478
One of the main things I like about BMDVs for anime is that the resolution is kept to 1920x1080p. Why do anime encoders always downscale the episodes to 1440x1080p?

>>42832795
YIFI has better quality than this.
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>>42832868
>Why do anime encoders always downscale the episodes to 1440x1080p?
What? Are you confusing cropping with downscaling? If the original video is 4:3 then there's no reason to keep the black bars on the sides.
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>>42832868
What the fuck are you talking about you retarded piece of shit? Old 4:3 anime is natively 1440x1080 when it's on bluray. Sometimes they encode the letterboxing directly in to the stream and there is no reason not to crop that out.
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>>42832868
They're cropping there. That's a good thing they do that, the only reason it's like that on Blurays is because of standards they have to adhere to.

Why the hell would you want hard-coded black bars? It's going to bloat the file-size for nothing and take more to decode, and there's people who watch anime on 4:3 or any non-16:9 monitors/tv too, and then that looks seriously retarded with hard-coded black bars in there.
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>>42832915
>Sometimes they encode the letterboxing directly in to the stream

No, they do it all of the time.

The video has to be 1920x1080 or at least 16:9 on the bluray, so that's why any 4:3 anime you ever see on bluray will have those black bars hardcoded into the sides.
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>>42832945
>has to be
why
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>>42832951
When they were creating bluray they thought it would be a good idea I guess.
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>>42832945
>The video has to be 1920x1080 or at least 16:9 on the bluray
This is incorrect. The spec specifically allows 1440x1080 among several other resolutions.
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>>42832992
If it did, well then I've never once seen it done without black bars hardcoded into the side, and why the hell would they do that if they didn't have to?

According to wikipedia, it says it supports 1440x1080 (4:3), but then it says the aspect ratio is 16:9, perhaps meaning it doesn't actually support 1440x1080, only 1440x1080 with the hardcoded black bars making it 16:9, or actually 1920x1080.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc#Video
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>>42832992
>>42833077
1440x1080 is only supported for anamorphic widescreen which makes it completely pointless.
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>>42831824

Jesus christ you are a philistine.

Real BRrips start around 8GB/8000kbps bitrate
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When will x265 be fast enough to use?
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Flawless Hi10p playback on modern android phones yet?
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>>42832550
>HEVC cuts filesizes in half
No.
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>>42831824

http://www.eoshd.com/content/9585/pixels-to-be-superseded-by-vector-technology-in-new-video-codec

It's all up from here on, small file size and awesome scaling

vector is the way to go, even if it's more processor intensive
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>>42833987
>Using vectors for content like live-action footage
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Good fucking luck with that.
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>>42833987
oh God
fuck
yes
my dream is finally coming true
thank you Jesus
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>>42832852
Placebo is a lovely thing, isn't it?
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>>42833987
Seems inconvenient and needlessly resource intensive. But someone screenshot my post to show me how dumb I am when it becomes the new major thing.
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>>42832852
>> the encode has a good chance of looking better than the original BD.
>This gets more every time I hear it. It's just so stupid. Stop drinking the kool-aid.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=134078

never doubt anime encoders
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>>42834113

It's convenient in the sense that google and every streaming site would save a bunch of money on bandwidth costs
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>>42834127
that first picture is pretty fucking impressive
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Anyone know anything about the conf file for mpv? I just installed mpv on Windows/NT 8.1 and I want to know what's the optimum settings for it, have an i5 4200U with HD 4400

Though I heard anything other than basic openGL/VDPAU are just placebo
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>>42834327
pls respond.
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