Linux Mint 17 KDE was released. Anyone else using it? If not,

>>42642629
mint sucks, kubuntu master race

>>42642629
>>42642637
>using KDE in any distro

>>42642629
Arch with GNOME 3.

>>42642629
Gentoo with KDE4 with C++11 enabled.

>>42642629
>>42642637
ubuntu and ubuntu derivatives suck fags!

>>42642652
arch sucks faggot!

>>42643311
haven't tried gentoo but its probably bad!

debian masterrace here

>>42643359
>deebane
Second shittest distro, right before Fedora.
How do you like a Ubuntu with old software and without PPAs?

What's the point of Mint without Cinnamon?

>>42643359
>debian masterrace

mah nigga!

Debian with Awesome here. Say what you want about ricer shit, Awesome has so much functionality.

>>42643405
works out of box. isn't ubuntu(although it is)

But if you do not like the ubuntu community or the amazon shit. there ya go.

I don't use mint. But I used to. it's actually a good ditro. i'd use it over ubuntu.

but i have fallen to #!

>>42642629
>>42642637
>>42642646
>using any KDE distro but openSUSE

>>42643428
Mint is just Ubuntu with ubuntu-restricted-extras already installed. I don't see why they bother with releases other than Cinnamon and Mate. I guess because a bigger userbase makes them look more important.

>>42643428
Oh hey, that was me last year
Now I hopped on to the Debian bandwagon
Using gnash instead of flash player though, and it's a pain in the ass since a lot of /f/ games are buggy as shit or just simply won't play
Flash videos work fine though

Sorting through youtube videos sucks ass though

Does it respects my freedom?

Running mint xfce with kwin right now. Best of both.

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>>42642637
>kubuntu
lel

My recent experience:

Fedora:
Gnome is laggy
KDE looks like shit
Overall good and stable OS, besides the DEs listed

Ubuntu:
Unity is somewhat laggy and buggy, although fairly usable- better than stock Gnome 3
The overall OS is also pretty good
For some reason, I had a syslog grow to about 400GB, which I don't appreciate

OpenSuse:
The only DE I tried was their KDE, which simply masked how disgusting KDE was
Their package manager broke after updating and won't read updates (searched online and no solutions worked)
Relatively stable if you forget that it wouldn't update it's package manager

Linux Mint:
Loaded Cinnamon on Mint 17 and promptly shut down my computer out of disgust


I've tried Arch but there was a bug that shipped with my iso which prevented systemd from replacing the old display manager with a new one. I tried gdm & kdm with no luck.
I'm still on ubuntu right now but I'm rather discouraged by the whole DE/OS ecosystem for Linux in general.
I'm tempted to give the new eOS a shot but I'm pretty dubious from their last release being based on a .10 ubuntu.

>>42645647
Your opinions are trash.

>>42645676
Elaborate please

strawberry banana

>>42645682
I stopped reading where you said Unity was better than anything.

>>42645695
>What is reading comprehension

>>42645695
I said Unity was better than Gnome 3.

Arch with GNOME 3. I tried KDE which somehow had problems with Firefox and other GTK-based programs (Firefox lagged horribly), then tried XFCE which didn't really feel like a DE and was full of bugs. I'm content with GNOME 3 for now, I'll probably try some minimal Openbox setup in the future though. Can you recommend me a panel application other than tint2?

>>42642629
mint with cinnamon

>>42645700
GNOME 3 is something. I stopped at "better". Sorry if I wasn't clear.

Mint Xfce, the one that feels most like w7.

Arch is literally for the unemployed

>>42645710
I suppose my comment was subjective, but I don't think that's fair.

>>42645712
Do you mean it's skinned to look like Windows or it just feels that way? I use XFCE because my netbook handles it well and I find it (with a few icon/color scheme tweaks) more efficient on a small screen.

>>42645725
No, its fair. Anyone who thinks Unity isn't absolute trash and the very worst of what FOSS has to offer is a massive incorrigible retard.
Have a nice day, bye.

>>42645727
No skin job, just plain out of the box, took a look at it and said to myself "could get used to this". I have, it's good.

Seriously, what's the point of DE-specific releases?

>>42642629
I used to use Mint KDE. Now I use Arch with LXDE.

>>42645750
ease of use faggot

>>42645691
I love you

>>42642629
Xubuntu 14.04, Mint 17 xfce would be my second choice.

>>42643405

read article:

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/mint-17-the-perfect-place-for-linux-ers-to-wait-out-ubuntu-uncertainty/

>>42643950
That is Xubuntu, you son of basterd bitch

>>42646999
Trips don't lie

>>42643359
>haven't tried gentoo but its probably bad!
I don't need to put up with autistic devs like Miguel de Icaza and Lennart Poettering. How are you enjoying Gnome3 and systemd?

>>42647056
linux babby here, if you're not using systemd then what do you use?

>>42647069
OpenRC

>>42646999
You must be really, really stupid

arch with openbox and tint2

runs like a dream

>>42647193
wow, the unemployment strikes hard.

What is it? 6 years? 7 years without a job?

opensuse

Soon it will be a true rolling release distro too

http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2014-06/msg00182.html

Gentoo with KDE. I tried Gnome, used it for a few weeks and then returned to KDE. KDE is truly master race.

>>42643377
It's not old, it's stable.
>Debfag here
>Gnome 3
YES, I LIKE GNOME 3

>>42642629
These threads always put me of Linux.
Just what should I use?
Ubuntu/mint/lubuntu/xubuntu/tails/puppy
Can someone help me here?

>>42648194
Depends on what you want. If you want an user interface the average Windows user should get along with well, Mint Cinnamon will suit you best.

It can also be helpful to read a few articles and watch a few youtube distro reviews.

>>42648194
What's your hardware like?

>>42648257
I see, do you have links to these articles?
Well, I browse the Chin mostly, read mango, watch chinese cartoons.
I want to switch so I can use some scripts as well as some terminal commands.

>>42643377
>implying Ubuntu isn't frozen Debian Experimental

>>42648732
>Implying there are any implications

>>42642629
I just installed Ubuntu with the kubuntu-desktop package from the mini.ISO

My DE ranking:
KDE = XFCE > GNOME > UNITY

>>42648825
>This guy
>Knows his shit

>>42648646
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/mint-17-the-perfect-place-for-linux-ers-to-wait-out-ubuntu-uncertainty/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdYF_R6Ulh8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVDQBHcWi-M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp41nT8oDME

>>42648825
Xfce > KDE = GNOME > blood stool > cancer > jehovah's witnesses > Unity

>>42648566
I have HP laptop, AMD processor , 4 gigs of ram.
Running vista. I know.
And it started giving me random bsod .
I checked the error and it was 0x124 which is a hardware problem.
So I took it to the "local tech repair shop" in order to fix it, he wiped the whole drive clean and told me it was a virus issue.
Needless to say the problem remained, so I though to take thing into my own hand starting by fixing it using a live CD of Linux to see which part is giving me the bsod, and with a little help with ifixit I may get things running.
Then double booting a Linux into my system.
>>42648938
Thanks, though YouTube is blocked in my country.

>>42648977
Linux Mint MATE should run fine on that system.

>>42648977
>fixing it using a live CD of Linux to see which part is giving me the bsod
How to do that?

Why would anyone use anything other than KDE? I'm serious about that question.

If you say "it's bloated" you should have your brain checked, since you might be retarded.

>>42648938
Also for comparison Mint 17 xfce:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00gJj2dj2Bg

>>42649050
>Why would anyone use anything other than KDE?

Unless you have a recent computer, KDE is too resource intensive.

>>42648977
>YouTube is blocked in my country

meh

>>42649089
I use anonymous to get passed it though.

Debian Openbox

>>42649005
Guys, how does Linux fix a hardware problem?

>>42649078
>Unless you have a recent computer, KDE is too resource intensive.
What?

I mean, what kind of computer would that be? A Pentium 4 with 512 MB of RAM and onboard video? Why would anyone here use such a thing?

I mean, I get you'd use XFCE to reuse some old shit you have around, that's fine. I was mostly asking about having anything other than KDE as your main desktop manager.

>>42649106
Where are you from ?

>>42649158
I have a pc like this.
What's wrong with it?

>>42649170
The beautiful country of Iraq, where it'll be legal to marry 9 years old girls and 11 years old boys.

>>42649158
What do you even want?

>>42649197
>Iraq
Damn. Stay safe.

>>42649197
I though I'm in fucked up country ( Serbia ), but Iraq is whole new level. I was born during the rule of a dictator ( Milosevic ), but now it's even worse and it's not more free at all.
Sorry for involving politics in this, but was it better during Saddam or during pro-US government ?

>>42649106
I tried to send you some more written reviews but 4chan server software don't let me post them because it thinks it is spam. Just use google or whatever search for "Linux review" and browse through the results, also read wiki articles about xfce, KDE, gnome, cinnamon.

I'd personally stay away from Gnome and KDE in any case.

>>42649158
>durr hurr why is no one as rich as me

>>42649202
I want to understand why some people like to torture themselves.

>>42649177
Is it a PC or your main PC?

>>42649212
Thanks, but it's kinda hard with the ISIS and armed militia around.
>>42649128
It doesn't, it just tells you what hardware is falling, try hardinfo I think it comes with most distro.

>>42648977
This is why I always fix my electronics myself. Holy fuck I hope you didn't pay for it.
>>42642629
I'm on Mint 17 Cinnamon after my SSD died with my Debian install. I'm actually quite happy with it, it's been 6 years since I last tried mint. I put Numix cinnamon theme on it along with Numix for gtk, got rid of window decorations through metacity configs, changed plymouth theme to numix and it's quite good now. Cool thing about mint is my thinkpad x61 volume control buttons work out of box, defaults on debian didn't work for instance, using mute button muted every single channel while pressing it again unmuted only one channel which led to situation where I had to unmute stuff directly in alsa mixer. No problems with mint here. The only thing that I dislike is update manager crashes from time to time, they should work on it.

>>42649306
>armed militia around.
If I may ask (assuming it doesn't endanger you) what town or region are you in?

>>42649253
But you are the masochist using KDE. Nothing you are writing makes any sense.

>>42649237
Honestly, Saddam was far better, true he stole, blocked the whole internet, no cellphones, killed a few hundred people, but if you don't goes near him he won't bother with you.
Now when you go outside your house you're not sure you'll be back.
My cousin went to get some groceries and he just didn't come back, we never found him.
You never know who's after you, and you can be killed for any reason.
Also no water, no electricity - we get it about 4 hours a day- , so I got that going for me.
>>42649240
Ok, thanks anon.
>>42649253
I use it to play RA2
>>42649309
I did pay for it.
>>42649316
Baghdad, I don't think it will endanger me, not many people from Iraq browse 4 Chan.

>>42642629
Xubuntu

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>>42649485
>My cousin went to get some groceries and he just didn't come back, we never found him.

You're shitting me.

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>>42649485
Thank you based America for bringing all that freedums to the oppressed people of the world ;_;

>>42649514
I'm serious, we searched hospitals, morgue, police stations and common body dropping sites.

So what is general consensus - Linux Mint KDE or Kubuntu? Does Mint add anything of value?

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>>42649708
arch + KDE of course

>>42649745
How did you make it look like that?

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>>42649783
like what?

>>42647193
So archbang
Why not crunchbang?

>>42642629
>using rebranded Ubuntu

>>42649796
Black transparent menus, icons, theme

>>42649825
http://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/28y7rm/archkde_i_used_to_think_kde_was_ugly/

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>>42649745
>>42649796
Nice numix dude, the transparent stuff is also really modern!

arch+fvwm here

>>42649745
How did you clean the task bar from all the garbage?

>>42649514
When did that happen? Is it still that dangerous in Baghdad or was it years ago during occupation/civil war? Also my condolences. sorry for your loss.

>>42642629
Wheezy with XFCE
But Mate is now in backports so maybe I will try it

>>42649796
how well does openmw run?

>>42649875
It happened during the 2008 events, it were dark times, and thank you.
It's still dangerous now, but for different reasons.

>>42649966
I see. Stay safe, m8.

i installed in on the 22nd to replace ubuntu with unity, it's very nice, i especially like the mint update manager

After almost 3 years without using Linux, this were my impressions so far in these last two monts that I am using again:

Ubuntu 14.04:
- Many issues I had were fixed, most of the things just work.
- While it works, Unity still feels like a shit version of Windows 7 bar/OSX dock.
- Nautilus/Files a shit, it looks nice. But it is sure fucking slow for a file manager.

Mint 17 Cinnamon:
- Oh this looks nice.
- Everything work fine.
- Two hours later, Cinnamon crashed two times and one of those times, it froze the whole X server.

Kubuntu 14.04:
- Tons of notifications on the tray, jesus crist, after I disabled everything was okay
- Rock solid, blazing fast, tons of features
- Fucking ugly and I can't rice it for shit.

After all that I went back to Ubuntu, using PCManFM instead of Nautilus and dealing with Unity so far.

KDE5 however looks so damn nice, so I might switch to that once it goes stable (hopefully at the end of the year).

>>42650014
Thanks, I know I derailed the thread and I apologize for that.
But can we go back to my question and the thread?
So about my BSOD laptop which distro will help me figure the issue?
I've tested the ram with windows memory diagnostic tool and it found no issue.
Crystal disk info gave cautious message but I've had the HDD nearly full.
So that leaves the CPU and the fan, I also noticed if I put it in power saving mode I get less BSOD per day.

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>hating other people's distro choices

Just use what works and what will do the job. The reason Linux is superior to Windows is because we have choice. Winbros cannot pick and choose the benefits of XP, Win7, Win8, and Win2000, and put them into one OS. They're stuck with what MS gives them.

>>42650133

There are special live distros for system diagnostics and data recovery and such stuff that can be booted from CD or USB stick, you might want to look into one of them?

http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd

https://www.runtime.org/data-recovery-live-cd.htm


They are also much smaller, mostly. So it's less to download.

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This thread is relevant to my interests

I want something that "just werks" out of the box, but is still customizable


So far I've tried

>Arch
Was kinda fun, learned a lot, but I need to be productive. I can't even estimate how long it'd take me to get everything up and running and making it look nice

>Ubuntu
Meh. One of those distros that just work on my machine, but I don't like Unity and that Amazon stuff makes this a no-go for me

>Mint
Probably my favorite, works fine, Desktop seems usable

But I'm worried about all the non-free stuff it comes with

>OpenSuse
Didn't work. At all. Installer failed on me (pic related), then the nvidia driver failed on me, network didn't work properly


Should I just go with Arch? How long does it take to set everything up after installation / network config? Maybe Debian?

>>42650712
Hmm, about the hiren boot CD do install these, or there is an ISO of it somewhere in the page?
Thanks by the way.

>>42651603
>I don't like Unity

K/Xubuntu comes without it and without Amazon stuff

>>42651847
Ah, sorry, didn't know it can't be dl'ded there:

http://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/

>>42651981
Thanks, I think I'll run a S&M stress test, to see what's up with my laptop.

>>42651603
Ubuntu just works out of the box. And you can install other desktops.
I use ubuntu with gnome shell. For a while I used to use openbox when I gave a shit about system resource consumption.

Since this is a Linux thread
I'm thinking of making a live USB of mint with this
www.linuxliveusb.com
Is this ok?

>>42651866
>>42652201

Huh, Kubuntu might be an option

Does it come with less closedsource / proprietary stuff than mint?

>>42652322
I would think so, but I never tried to use Linux from Windows, so I can't say for sure.

>>42652472
Ubuntu always comes with the same amount.

Nothing in Ubuntu with Unity is really proprietary. The optional drivers are not installed by default as far as I remember. You don't have to check the box to install the restricted extras like MP3 playback. But I have never configured a system like that and if I have it was because I hate myself.

You never have to install anything proprietary if you don't want to.

>>42652479
Is there an alternative then?
For making live USB with persistence preferred, from windows or using the live CD

>>42652548
I'm just going to add to my own statement by saying that all of unity's source code gets posted online. It's under GPLV3.

It also has canonical's weird license attached to it, but it's not proprietary software.

>>42647069
>Lennart Poettering
OpenRC and i always will

>>42652662

A virtual machine under virtualbox or vmware would give you the same options.
Install it to hd and set up a dual boot system is probably the best in the technical sense, like full hartdware access for the OS. But for testing purposes a VM or that www.linuxliveusb.com thing will do it, too.

>>42652662
unetbootin

>>42642629
bout to give siduction lxqt a whirl

>>42652662
unetbootin
rufus
yumi
lilo

>>42652662
Try this
www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/

>>42642629
Long time LXDE fan turned Xubuntu 14.04 here.
Still waiting to see a complete LXQT soon.

>>42653071
Which one of these leaves some storage space in the USB drive to store some files?
I'm thinking of using a 32 GB USB drive.

>>42652322
I use that all the time in Windows, it's fine

>>42653230
I believe they all do, but persistenc is usually only available for ubuntu and its derivatives

>>42653272
I see, so it's xubuntu or lubuntu for me.

>>42653299
or kubuntu and I think mint also supports persistence

>>42652104
Hiren's is good stuff. LOTS of diagnostic tools. Hope all goes well.

How long before we see a stable Mint 17 XFCE release?

>>42652104
It might just be getting hot. Heat/bad airflow can wreak havoc on the accuracy of RAM and CPU. It might just need to be opened and cleaned.

>>42648194
I'd say start of with Ubuntu most people start off with that distro and then try mint, fedora and any other distro from there on and chooses one you like
its like choosing a sexuality

>>42653327
So which one of these three should I put?
I need something that's have a wide range of preinstalled programs, and can run smoothly.

>>42642629
CrunchBang.

>>42653537
I'd say start with stock ubuntu. then go from there

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>>42642629
Any notable differences between Kubuntu and Mint KDE?

>>42643453
KDE has disgusting font rendering.

>>42653667
*openSUSE has disgusting font rendering, my bad.

>>42653444
I did that, using vacuum cleaner.
I stopped the fan from spinning in order not to damage the bearings, and a lot of dirt came out, but it didn't solve it.
>>42653444
I'm reading the list as I waiting for the download to finish hopefully by tomorrow afternoon, and there are a lot of useful things in there.

>>42653743
>opensuse
never forget
http://youtu.be/VNkDJk5_9eU

>>42653630
>kubuntu
>chromium by default

>>42643428
The original ubuntu is the only one with Amazon shit

>>42643601
Yeah, kinda. It's essentially shaven down Ubuntu with their own material mixed in with it. They also have a Debian based linux mint now.

>>42653553
Is it good for beginners?

Does Mint still lag behimd Ubuntu for updates, and do you still have to reinstall to upgrade to a new version?

>>42653907
for the ubuntu derived version yes, for the debian version, it's rolling release

>>42653630
Mint is less ugly by default

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>>42653907
can you not just do apt-get dist upgrade on mint?

>>42649158
I have a fairly recent laptop and while it runs perfectly fine, KDE absolutely rapes my battery.

>>42653907
All new Mint version will be built up on Ubuntu LTS. Mint 17 will be supported until 2019 for instance.

I'm new to Linux can you help me with wget command?
I'm trying to download an "index of" page how I do that?
Also is there a way to generate thumbnails from the links to see what I'm downloading before I do that?

>>42653764
>I waiting for the download to finish hopefully by tomorrow afternoon

Damn, now I feel really bad ;_;

>>42654875
It's the norm here, I get about 30-60 KB/s for about 50$ per month, I can get 100kb/s for 80$.
There's no data caps which is nice, although I suspect that my ISP throttles me sometimes.

>>42653775
holy fuck this is amazing

>>42654761
Hmm, I think like this

wget -0 "location where you want to download" -c -k -np "the URL"

I use Fedora 20. I've never had a problem

>>42655124
>30-60 KB/s for about 50$ per month

That's more expensive then what I'm paying over here (Croatia) for 4/0,5 Mbps speed. Yeah and I know that is pretty bad, too.

>>42655684
Well, that's what's torrents and download mangers are for.

>>42653806
I changed browser myself though.
>>42653984
In which way?