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Hey /g/, my parts arrived! I thought I'd share the process of building my Steambox with you guys.
Enjoy the ride.
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>>42199245
how did you choose that particular mobo?
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I chose to go with a low profile cooler because (as you will see later on) the stock cooler from AMD would've been too high.
>dat metal emblem
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The case I'm using is a Jonsbo V6. It looks like a speakerbox and fits very well into your living room environment.
The inside is very tiny so I will be packing things quite tight in there.

>>42199259
I needed a mITX FM2 board with WiFi. There aren't really that many to choose from and Gigabyte has been pretty good for me lately.
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Why no Z87?

Also, what was the budget?
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>>42199245
>APU Board with a dedicated GPU

Why. You should of bought either a lower end fx cpu and board or an intel board with an i3.
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The mainboard in question is a Gigabyte GA-F2A88XN-WIFI. It wasn't very expensive (around 90 bucks).
This is also my first mITX build ever.
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With the cooler mounted, the RAM has barely any room to breathe.

>>42199284
The budget was around 500 Euros to get sort of equivalent results with current gen consoles (XBone, PS4). We'll see about the benchmarks at a later date, since I'm currently downloading SteamOS.
>>42199286
Because I will be using this box from time to time with a windows hdd for LANs and to play BF3/4 so I had to get a rather juicy GPU. I was thinking about getting a APU only machine at first though.
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And into the case it goes.
If you know how small mITX boards are, you can guess how little room there is inside this case.
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>>42199327
fuck I would never build anything that tight
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>>42199340
would a full size graphics card fit in this thing?
I really want to build a minITX but i wan't to put a GTX 780 in it
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Next up is installing a 650W PSU and connecting all the wires.
300W would've probably been enough, but this was available for only 5 Euros more than the 300W, so I thought wtf why not.
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>>42199283
where's the psu?
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And my little princess has pomfed onto the mainboard.
>>42199344
I had (and still have) concerns about that. I'll see in the long run if this was a good idea or not.
>>42199354
No. You'd have to get the mini version of a GPU or a GTX 750 sized card. It does have space for two-slot cards though so thickness shouldn't be a problem.
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Last but not least, SSD goes on top of everything into it's SSD/2.5" bracket.
Now that everything's installed, let's zip-tie the loose cables so they don't get caught in any fan.
>>42199359
See the big black box in >>42199357
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Another view from the backside.

And we're done. Thank you for joining me on this build. Maybe we'll see each other again in one of the countless guts threads.
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so there's no room for any 3.5" hdds?
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But Steam OS is not released yet

what the fuck op
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>>42199418
Beta...
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One more thing.
Just to show you how little room there is between the PSU and the CPU heatsink's fan.

>>42199414
The case has a dedicated bracket for 3.5" HDDs. The bracket would be installed next to the GPU on the side, so it would basically block the airflow for the GPU.
This is the main reason I chose to use a SSD with this build.
>>42199418
Beta software is where it's at, mang: http://store.steampowered.com/steamos/buildyourown
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>>42199418
whats SteamOS got to do with it?

Steam for linux isn't a SteamOS exclusive, you know. There's many other GNU/Linux distributions he could run Steam on.
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Sweet, dude.

I built an Xbox One.
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That's just all too close in my opinion. Makes me nervous.
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>>42199514
Thanks
>>42199517
As stated before, I have concerns as well, but I'm pretty confident in that build to not burn down my whole house while playing Guacamelee.
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Can you only run DRM-fucked Steam games on SteamOS?
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>>42199578
It's Debian, so you can install what you like, but Steam has the sandbox install process down better than most real package managers
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>>42199578
No. In theory you could run the normal Debian desktop, install Desura and even games from the Humble Bundle.
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What is the point of something being a steam box as opposed to being a computer that runs steam games?
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>>42199632
The point is a small case you can place in your living room that will not stand out with it's size or any weird gaymen designs.
You could also just get a NUC, glue it to the back of your TV and stream your games exclusively over LAN.
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>>42199652
That isn't really the question. This would be classified as an htpc and doesn't need to be related to steam at all.

People have been building htpcs for awhile now.
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>>42199671
If you want to argue semantics, then yes. This is basically a HTPC that runs a custom Linux distribution that will initialize the Steam Big Picture mode upon system start.
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why don't you install a real OS?
>cant play any good games on linux
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>>42199688
>If you want to argue semantics
Hey now, this is /g/. Get with the program.
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>>42199689
Since I can stream every game in my library to this machine, it doesn't matter what OS I put on there as long as you can install Steam on it.
Skyrim for example works wonderfully through LAN streaming.
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>>42199719
enjoy having to build another rig with a jew-tier graphics card
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>>42199695
Yes, that is true. I'm sorry for the lack of dragondildos in this build. Maybe next time.
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>>42199728
But I already have a jewcy gaymen rig that I can host my gaymes on. I earned good shekels and spent those shekels for more consumerism.
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>>42199732
You also forgot your 1000 poptarts.
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>>42199283
>Jonsbo V6
>US $189.44

I'm out of this thread and you are shit
Anyways
Total cost of your hipster retarded box?
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>>42199391
It looks so cute and adorable.
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>>42199821
508.65 Euro. The Jonsbo cost me 45 Euro.
>>42199862
I know, right?
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>>42199689
no photoshop
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>>42199245
>AMD CPU for gaming
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>>42200352
>parroting things you heard on /g/
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>>42200352
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>a steambox
A PC, faggot, a fucking PC it is named.
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>>42199357
>300W would've probably been enough, but this was available for only 5 Euros more than the 300W, so I thought wtf why not.

Because it's less efficient. The power consumption will be higher. Unless you plan on upgrading it, it wasn't worth it
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>>42200469
I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings.
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>>42199245
that is adorable.

I want one now.
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>>42200481
Well then I can just replace my lousy 500W in my main rig and get a nice fully modular 300W for the Steambox in the near future.
Thanks for clarification.
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>>42200469
I call them "IBM clones" irl.
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>>42200428
>Based 1080p levels the playing field
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Nice build, OP.

What's the performance like? Both gaming and thermal?

Also, could a somewhat larger GPU fit in there? How much space is left in the GPU slot?
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>>42200699
Thanks.
I can not provide any statements regarding performance and temperature yet. SteamOS is downloading with crappy speeds right now.
A larger GPU would fit, if it's length is not exceeding the 750 + around 5cm. Regular sized GPUs will not fit in this case which is why you'd probably not want to make this your main gaming rig.
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waiting to hear about the performance, op.
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Can you post a few pictures of it assembled? Also, any idea how much it weighs?
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>>42200831
500 grams
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>>42199283
Why didn't you get FM2+
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>>42200831
Assembled pics might follow in guts threads. Stay tuned.
As for the weight, it's pretty heavy with the PSU and all so I'd guess somewhere around 2,5 kilograms.
>>42200877
I'm not very good with AMD stuff and this seemed good enough.
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>>42200481
>implying the efficiency doesn't degrade the higher the load
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>>42200481
What? I thought that using the same load on a higher wattage psu was more efficient?
I certainly hope you aren't trying to say that the psu will always be drawing the amount of power it is rated for.
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>EVGA GTX 750
You done goofe, you could at least take a MSi gtx 760 mini, or an Asus 670 mini
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>>42199245
Great Build man, I really love small PCs
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>>42199452

You're better of just getting Debian and installing steam yourself. Or using anything else other than steamos (which is debian)
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>>42199245
>he built a steambox

Might as well put windows on it so you can actually play your games.
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>>42201977
I have the MSI 760 mini, it's bad ass
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>nobody asking the big questions
What are you using to replace pic related, OP?
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Also what was the total price of this build? And what kind of temps are you getting (go into the BIOS if you didn't install an OS yet)
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>>42201977
How the GTX 670 vs the GTX 760 ?
Shall I buy the asus mini gpu(GTX 670) or the msi one(GTX 760).
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>>42202365
A tolerable keyboard and mouse, I would seriously hope.
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>>42202441
Kinda defeats the point of "fits very well into your living room", no?

If you're gonna mouse and keyboard it, a desk is way more comfy. And if you have space for a desk, you have space for a proper sized rig. inb4 a million battlestations with microitx boxes.
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>>42202441
Just use a 360 controller.
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>>42202495
I entirely agree without a doubt. Then again, I see no point in having or using a ``living room'' setup of any kind whatsoever. Couches are comparably terrible.
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>>42202530
*brofist*
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I finished installing the SteamOS to this box. So far it is working fantastic.
I tested Streaming (Batman Arkham Origins) as well as a natively installed game (The Swapper). Framerate of Batman was 60fps on ultra settings with a bit of screenjitter here and there. That is caused by my network (wifi, host has around 36MBit/s, Steambox 136MBit/s). Once I get a better wifi nic for my main rig, it should be fine.
There is one major problem however: the audio output is distorted and sounds like it is downsampled. Audio comes through HDMI. I will try analog audio later as well.

>>42201977
I had previously thought to use those, but the price of the 750ti was too tempting. I also wanted to stay inside the price level of XBone and PS4. A 760 would've crashed everything.
>>42202228
Thanks.
>>42202288
So far SteamOS works just fine. Of course it'd be easier to install flash and stuff on a regular debian install.
>>42202340
Streaming, mang. It works flawlessly if your network is up to the task.
>>42202365
Since I'll mainly be using that Box for Indiegames that have excellent controller support (e.g. Guacamelee), I'm using a XBox360 controller as subsitution.
>>42202394
Total price of the built was 553,65 Euro. Temps in BIOS are 36°C for CPU and 34°C for GPU. Pretty tolerable.
>>42202495
>>42202530
>>42202549
I wholeheartedly agree. I have a main rig in a FT02B case that serves me well for things like BF4, but when you just want to play some beat'em'up games with friends a Console is perfect; just get into your comfy couch with a controller and brawl.
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>>42203449
Can you take a pic of the assembled case (or a stock photo) and draw air intake/exhaust arrows on it?
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>>42204548
Main intake is in the front, GPU pulls from the side. Hot air gets exhausted through the 140mm in the back.
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>>42203449
God shit mang
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>>42204623
Place an egg behind it and try to cook it.
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>>42199245
>sucking valves dick
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>>42205596
Wow. You really convinced me with your hot arguments. I'm going to install a real man's OS on this thing now. Plan9! Fuck gaymes, amirite gais?
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>>42205817
>Plan9
I just got hyped because of one comment. It is unix-like right? So it would not be hard. I am going to try it out. How is it different from Linux?
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>Steambox

So a small-case PC then

Because thats all it is. Plus, why not just use Steam's own streaming service now?
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>>42206055
Did you even bother to read the thread?
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>>42206429
Just ignore them. It's a nice build and you can use whatever OS you want on it anyway. What kind of temps do you get under high loads btw. I can imagine that this little thing might heat up after a while.
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>>42206524
I'll try tomorrow when some games have finished downloading and I got some more time for gaymen.
So far I'm really pleased with the results.
The audio hickups that I had are gone after turning my Steambox of for around an hour. Don't know what that was though so I think it's possible it will return sooner or later.
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>>42203449
>553.65 Euro equals
>754.79 US Dollar
That's more than a "nextgen" console, but interesting build/thread nonetheless.

Cheers anon, talking about console games with friends makes me wanna try making an arcade machine out of an old pc instead of the traditional home server option, especially since I can use an old crt as well...
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>>42207471
>That's more than a "nextgen" console
He could probably have gone with a cheaper CPU and ditched the GPU if he wanted to compete with a console.
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git gud OP
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>>42207523

>>42203449
>I also wanted to stay inside the price level of XBone and PS4.

I was just pointing that out, but yes.
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>>42207471
Not really, the PS4 costs 400€ in europe and the Xbone is 500€. Of course he has to deal with european prices, so you should compare them and not convert to USD. It's definitely in console territory when it comes to the price.
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>>42207471
In Krautland we have to pay 450€ for the PS4 and 550€ for the Xbone, so in my measurements I was well within price specs.
>>42207624
It's so tiny and lovable. Is that a LianLi case?
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personally i would of gone with something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYqA7FvOzhk

Logic Supply MC600 $100
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790S 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($314.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97E-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($143.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Tactical 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($149.99 @ Micro Center)
Storage: Crucial M550 512GB M.2 Solid State Drive ($334.99 @ B&H)

and Galaxy GTX 750 TI Slim + HDPlex 250W psu+dell power brick
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>>42207624
>tplink oversized antenna

confirmed clueless.
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why not just use that steam streaming feature to a cheap steam box? i can't justify building an expensive computer that basically only plays game in my living room.
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Very curious to see temps under light, regular, and intense use OP. My next build will likely be mini-itx (I built a home server in a node 304, so I'm somewhat familiar with mini-itx already), but fuck is your ram close to your cpu cooler and is your cooler close to your PSU. Both would worry me.
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You shoulda waited for a custom motherboard with 45 degree RAM slots.
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>>42208402
Read the thread, OP plans to stream the heavier games and install a bunch of indie games locally.
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But that's just building a cheap PC and installing SteamOS on it. What's the point?
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>AMD
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>>42212407

intel shill detected
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>>42200428
>medium quality
Also that game was complete shit.
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no
>A-Series
>GTX 750
>2 GB 750
>Not hybrid crossfirex for more performance
leave
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>>42212661
This, why on earth did you choose to buy a APU and a Geforce? That makes no sense at all
>760K+Geforce = OK
>760K+Radeon = OK
>A10-7850K = OK
>A10-7850K+Radeon crossfire = OK
>APU+Geforce = get out
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>>42212741
This.
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>>42212741
>Implying you can't slifire with a driver hack
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>>42210459
Me too. If the thread still exists in around 10 hours, I will post results.
>>42212759
>>42212741
>>42212661
>>42212407
>>42212402
Yes. YES! Let the hurt flow through your butt.
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>>42212741
>A10-7850K+Radeon crossfire = OK
This is wrong.
Crossfiring with the APU is also bad. In some cases it actually makes the performance worse.
That is if you can even get it to work. You have to have drivers for the exact combination you're using.
And we all know about AMD and drivers. No but jokes aside, the drivers do suck since they can't spend much time on them unlike their headline drivers,
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>>42200428
Yeah, try to play something CPU intensive like MMO's with hundreds of players.
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>>42207624
>Random build thread on /g/
>Not making literally the smallest gaymer pc ever built
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>>42208263
well the personally you're a fuckwit.

Anyone can say what they would build but the thing is can you afford it
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>>42199354
There are some extremely long mini ITX cases that can fit full sized GPUs
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> Implying my mini-ITX build running Windows 7 and Mint isn't a shitton more versatile than some dedicated shit gaming-OS
>1998+(4^2)
Shiggy fucking diggy OP
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>>42212407
>basing your purchase of processors by brand
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>inb4 the 650W PSU is a POS Codegen or something
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>>42216882
Even shitty PSU's work fine if you don't push them.
Don't go over 50% of the maximum "rated" is my personal rule.
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shiiit I thought my node 304 was small.
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Sorry to disappoint but the weather was too nice today so I actually left my mancave and had [spoiler]fun[/spoiler] outside. Temperatures will be recorded and posted in future guts threads though.
>>42216046
I never implied anything. The implications are all in your head.
>>42216882
It actually is a Aerocool PSU. POS might still be valid tho. Have yet to burn down my house.
>>42218048
The node 304 is xbox hueg compared to this.
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op never heard of steam streaming? LOL

could have done the same thing with an even smaller+prebuilt piece of shit atom for <$100
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>>42220428
If you would just read the thread instead of making assumptions, you would've known that I stream some games to this thing.
The reason it's so 'overpowered' is because I will use it from time to time to attend LAN parties with a Windows partition.
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