Hey /g/, my parts arrived! I thought I'd share the process of building my Steambox with you guys.
Enjoy the ride.
I chose to go with a low profile cooler because (as you will see later on) the stock cooler from AMD would've been too high.
>dat metal emblem
The case I'm using is a Jonsbo V6. It looks like a speakerbox and fits very well into your living room environment.
The inside is very tiny so I will be packing things quite tight in there.
I needed a mITX FM2 board with WiFi. There aren't really that many to choose from and Gigabyte has been pretty good for me lately.
The mainboard in question is a Gigabyte GA-F2A88XN-WIFI. It wasn't very expensive (around 90 bucks).
This is also my first mITX build ever.
With the cooler mounted, the RAM has barely any room to breathe.
The budget was around 500 Euros to get sort of equivalent results with current gen consoles (XBone, PS4). We'll see about the benchmarks at a later date, since I'm currently downloading SteamOS.
Because I will be using this box from time to time with a windows hdd for LANs and to play BF3/4 so I had to get a rather juicy GPU. I was thinking about getting a APU only machine at first though.
And into the case it goes.
If you know how small mITX boards are, you can guess how little room there is inside this case.
Next up is installing a 650W PSU and connecting all the wires.
300W would've probably been enough, but this was available for only 5 Euros more than the 300W, so I thought wtf why not.
And my little princess has pomfed onto the mainboard.
I had (and still have) concerns about that. I'll see in the long run if this was a good idea or not.
No. You'd have to get the mini version of a GPU or a GTX 750 sized card. It does have space for two-slot cards though so thickness shouldn't be a problem.
Last but not least, SSD goes on top of everything into it's SSD/2.5" bracket.
Now that everything's installed, let's zip-tie the loose cables so they don't get caught in any fan.
See the big black box in >>42199357
Another view from the backside.
And we're done. Thank you for joining me on this build. Maybe we'll see each other again in one of the countless guts threads.
One more thing.
Just to show you how little room there is between the PSU and the CPU heatsink's fan.
The case has a dedicated bracket for 3.5" HDDs. The bracket would be installed next to the GPU on the side, so it would basically block the airflow for the GPU.
This is the main reason I chose to use a SSD with this build.
Beta software is where it's at, mang: http://store.steampowered.com/steamos/buildyourown
The point is a small case you can place in your living room that will not stand out with it's size or any weird gaymen designs.
You could also just get a NUC, glue it to the back of your TV and stream your games exclusively over LAN.
Since I can stream every game in my library to this machine, it doesn't matter what OS I put on there as long as you can install Steam on it.
Skyrim for example works wonderfully through LAN streaming.
>300W would've probably been enough, but this was available for only 5 Euros more than the 300W, so I thought wtf why not.
Because it's less efficient. The power consumption will be higher. Unless you plan on upgrading it, it wasn't worth it
I can not provide any statements regarding performance and temperature yet. SteamOS is downloading with crappy speeds right now.
A larger GPU would fit, if it's length is not exceeding the 750 + around 5cm. Regular sized GPUs will not fit in this case which is why you'd probably not want to make this your main gaming rig.
Assembled pics might follow in guts threads. Stay tuned.
As for the weight, it's pretty heavy with the PSU and all so I'd guess somewhere around 2,5 kilograms.
I'm not very good with AMD stuff and this seemed good enough.
What? I thought that using the same load on a higher wattage psu was more efficient?
I certainly hope you aren't trying to say that the psu will always be drawing the amount of power it is rated for.
>EVGA GTX 750
You done goofe, you could at least take a MSi gtx 760 mini, or an Asus 670 mini
>he built a steambox
Might as well put windows on it so you can actually play your games.
>nobody asking the big questions
What are you using to replace pic related, OP?
Kinda defeats the point of "fits very well into your living room", no?
If you're gonna mouse and keyboard it, a desk is way more comfy. And if you have space for a desk, you have space for a proper sized rig. inb4 a million battlestations with microitx boxes.
I finished installing the SteamOS to this box. So far it is working fantastic.
I tested Streaming (Batman Arkham Origins) as well as a natively installed game (The Swapper). Framerate of Batman was 60fps on ultra settings with a bit of screenjitter here and there. That is caused by my network (wifi, host has around 36MBit/s, Steambox 136MBit/s). Once I get a better wifi nic for my main rig, it should be fine.
There is one major problem however: the audio output is distorted and sounds like it is downsampled. Audio comes through HDMI. I will try analog audio later as well.
I had previously thought to use those, but the price of the 750ti was too tempting. I also wanted to stay inside the price level of XBone and PS4. A 760 would've crashed everything.
So far SteamOS works just fine. Of course it'd be easier to install flash and stuff on a regular debian install.
Streaming, mang. It works flawlessly if your network is up to the task.
Since I'll mainly be using that Box for Indiegames that have excellent controller support (e.g. Guacamelee), I'm using a XBox360 controller as subsitution.
Total price of the built was 553,65 Euro. Temps in BIOS are 36°C for CPU and 34°C for GPU. Pretty tolerable.
I wholeheartedly agree. I have a main rig in a FT02B case that serves me well for things like BF4, but when you just want to play some beat'em'up games with friends a Console is perfect; just get into your comfy couch with a controller and brawl.
Main intake is in the front, GPU pulls from the side. Hot air gets exhausted through the 140mm in the back.
Just ignore them. It's a nice build and you can use whatever OS you want on it anyway. What kind of temps do you get under high loads btw. I can imagine that this little thing might heat up after a while.
I'll try tomorrow when some games have finished downloading and I got some more time for gaymen.
So far I'm really pleased with the results.
The audio hickups that I had are gone after turning my Steambox of for around an hour. Don't know what that was though so I think it's possible it will return sooner or later.
>553.65 Euro equals
>754.79 US Dollar
That's more than a "nextgen" console, but interesting build/thread nonetheless.
Cheers anon, talking about console games with friends makes me wanna try making an arcade machine out of an old pc instead of the traditional home server option, especially since I can use an old crt as well...
Not really, the PS4 costs 400€ in europe and the Xbone is 500€. Of course he has to deal with european prices, so you should compare them and not convert to USD. It's definitely in console territory when it comes to the price.
In Krautland we have to pay 450€ for the PS4 and 550€ for the Xbone, so in my measurements I was well within price specs.
It's so tiny and lovable. Is that a LianLi case?
personally i would of gone with something like this:
Logic Supply MC600 $100
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790S 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($314.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97E-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($143.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Tactical 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($149.99 @ Micro Center)
Storage: Crucial M550 512GB M.2 Solid State Drive ($334.99 @ B&H)
and Galaxy GTX 750 TI Slim + HDPlex 250W psu+dell power brick
Very curious to see temps under light, regular, and intense use OP. My next build will likely be mini-itx (I built a home server in a node 304, so I'm somewhat familiar with mini-itx already), but fuck is your ram close to your cpu cooler and is your cooler close to your PSU. Both would worry me.
This, why on earth did you choose to buy a APU and a Geforce? That makes no sense at all
>760K+Geforce = OK
>760K+Radeon = OK
>A10-7850K = OK
>A10-7850K+Radeon crossfire = OK
>APU+Geforce = get out
>A10-7850K+Radeon crossfire = OK
This is wrong.
Crossfiring with the APU is also bad. In some cases it actually makes the performance worse.
That is if you can even get it to work. You have to have drivers for the exact combination you're using.
And we all know about AMD and drivers. No but jokes aside, the drivers do suck since they can't spend much time on them unlike their headline drivers,
Sorry to disappoint but the weather was too nice today so I actually left my mancave and had [spoiler]fun[/spoiler] outside. Temperatures will be recorded and posted in future guts threads though.
I never implied anything. The implications are all in your head.
It actually is a Aerocool PSU. POS might still be valid tho. Have yet to burn down my house.
The node 304 is xbox hueg compared to this.
If you would just read the thread instead of making assumptions, you would've known that I stream some games to this thing.
The reason it's so 'overpowered' is because I will use it from time to time to attend LAN parties with a Windows partition.