/PLG/ - powerlifting general
I'm not sure whether the equipped work will make it easier or harder.
Going to replace a block pull with equipped squats. Yeah that's probably going to kill me.
Who here rewatching Macross Frontier in prep for Delta?
Just tried my squat max the other day after 8 weeks of Sheiko, went from 155kg tested (trained with a max of 157.5) to 167.5kg for a hell of a grinder.
Pretty happy with that!
Will report other lifts in a few days.
Taking a quick looksie at the sheets, it actually looks like subbing block pulls for eq squats wouldn't kill you desu
doesn't your club have some geared lifters though? maybe ask them how to not JUST yourself doing this
>that boy is weak, weird, ugly in his exertion and everything he does hurts him further
>he is in pain, every movement a struggle, his body held together by bits of poly and neoprene
>despite this, he soldiers onwards
Due to the fact that when most people start lifting they tend to bench with a narrower grip without pauses. Immediately going into a max grip width would be forcing them into a form which is most likely not optimal for their musculature (tricep strength would be bottlenecked by weak chest).
I would advocate moving the grip out gradually rather than immediately going to max width, this would allow the lifter to use relatively similar weights whilst working towards their optimal form.
Powerlifting can improve stamina or muscle for sex ? or Any powerlifter who do porn ? So curious about relation between PL and Sex.
I... I actually imagine myself as shiro when I walk to training. Like you know that scene in fate route where he casts back and traces avalon? I do that with a barbell. And in HF where shiro imagines archer always a head if him, chasing? I see a stronger version of myself and I'm chasing that tracing my technique.
Internally I am a full turbo autist.
>on every level except physical I am the bone of my sword
>8:38 on a random Thursday afternoon
>The powerlifter lies naked in his bedroom with his qt3.14 gf
>His 28% bodyfat, 280 lb body, is covered in sweat awaiting his first rep
>He stretches for eleven minutes
>Sits back down
>puts beats by Dre headphones in, starts mouthing some indecipherable shit metal music
>Gets up one more time
>Elaborate warm-up body-jerking ensues
>Starts breathing deeply from his diaphram
>Suddenly he bolts up to his bored gf
>With one quick and decisive motion he grabs her hips, pulls out his already erect 4.5 inch cock
>Grunts like a retard getting his dick slammed into a car door as he jams his cock as hard as he can into her pussy
>The sheer force of the impact liquidizes most of her internal organs, vaporizes her skeletal structure, and melts her skin
>Gets up, walks over to his duffel bag, pulls out a roller, and proceeds to warm down before his 15 minute warmup for his next set
Such is the life of a sexually active body builder
>tfw bodybuilder guy at my gym referred to me as someone with huge legs behind my back to someone to make fun of their small legs
>tfw I'm all back and legs and no press strength
Holy fuck you're one big octopus autistic man.
iktf, if you see me from behind you would think im big as fuck, from the front my chest is all fat. Even my abs sticks out further than my chest
I'm doing candito 6 weeks and I am at week 3.
Problem is I got sick. Fever, sneezing, fatigue and loss of appetite. I lost 2 kg in 2 days.
What the fuck do I do if I can't lift? Do I just wait till I get well and resume the week or do I repeat it?
I see, thanks lads.
Also, stupid question, an anon once said in the thread a while back that his total decreased by quite a lot when he stopped taking creatine cold turkey, the fucks up with that?
probably just placebo and blaming extraneous variables for his downfall.
it definitely helps most people so you should have a somewhat noticeable increase in training, but stopping it wont massively cut your total.
You're bending your knees when you're putting the bar down before it passes them. Try to wait longer before you bend your knees? Some really strong people do it your way, but this probably wouldn't hurt to fix.
The reason I so that is because my coach wants me to take as little possible time between reps, because it makes doing more reps easier
Also what do you mean drop it at the top? That would be a bad habit to create because that isn't allowed in competition.
The reason I do that is so I can set up for the next rep as fast as possible, but I do see what you mean
It isn't a concern at all desu, it easily goes around my knees, never once hit my knees deadlifting, and for those I know who have never sustained even a slight injury, it would just feel like a small bump
>DUP is good for beginners?
Getting into the gym and wanting to work hard is good for beginners.
Changing rep and load ranges is fine. Ideal, even for any lifter.
Don't stress it. Just go lift.
>Your progress *might* be a little slower than it would on SS
Says the fuck who???
"DUP" isn't a routine. It's a method of programming. You can progress however you want.
Tired of this meme shit.
>its just the planned progression.
This is why bitches stay beginner tier for months on end.
Maybe you should think for yourself and try to get stronger?
>If you're doing different set/rep ranges every day, how in fuck are you going to just add 5 lbs each time you go to they gym?
If monday is 5x5, wednesday is 6x2, and friday is 8x1, you would just add 5 lbs to the percentage of load and keep the set/rep scheme week to week.
this is the first time ever someone has critiqued SS for being too slow progression. maybe that says something about your opinion
i bet you make the best programmes and have awesome gains with your 1 year of lifting, huh
who the fuck are you anyway
>adding 5% to a load once a week is faster than increasing load 5lbs 3x/week
>adding 5% to a load once a week is faster than increasing load 5lbs 3x/week
You're stuck in the numbers, flappy.
Progression is not always linear.
Whatever, though. I hope you get off SS soon.
>You're stuck in the numbers
>said in a thread about a sport that's all about the numbers
>Progression is not always linear.
>said in an argument about linear progression programmes
Lol. Let me guess, you only do canned programs because you're scared to take risks?
>said in an argument about linear progression programmes
Linear progression programs is not the same as rate of progression.
>hey guys i did TM with memeburn bench, Im a risk taker and programme creator!
>Linear progression programs is not the same as rate of progression
not relevant to the argument. you're mad cause you think DUP is faster then SS, then got mad cause "it was all about the numbers", and now you're strawmanning acting like someone claimed progression was always linear.
such an idiot.
why even trip
>Effort/Consistency and a willingness to learn are the only things that really matter.
>you think DUP is faster then SS,
It can be. Unless you're afraid of the progression police coming to confiscate your gainz.
Progress can be optimized by so many factors. Diet/sleep/supplements etc. I think people put way too much focus on programming and far too little on cultivating a mindset to train hard and frequently.
>people put way too much focus on programming
Your body doesn't know the difference between SS and DUP. It just knows stress and fatigue.
If you work hard most days of the week, you get stronger for a looooong time.
>approximately six months total time lifting
Closer to 6 years.
The longer I lift, the more I see that stressing the little shit is pointless. Going to the gym and lifting hard is the trick. You gotta care about it enough to make progress.
>you're not saying anything revolutionary.
And you're not saying anything at all.
>cultivate the mindset
>Did you find a chair that doesn't wrinkle up your cape when you're posting on 4chan?
Look at norse. Shit mindset, failed to make progress on a great program.
Fuck off, PanzerBitch.
I mean if you're going to drop the weight instead of putting it down, then you might aswell just drop the bar after lockout. I mean you obviously are fucking up the rest of the reps by dropping while holding onto the bar. If you dont wanna do either of those then just get into the starting position again before pulling instead of pulling right away.
Or I can continue to drop it while holding onto the bar, and focus on not fucking up my positioning during my descent.
And it's definitely doable, there are a few people in my gym capable of this, it just takes months/years of practice desu
>Norse is a terrible example
He's a great example. Realistically, he's probably the second most talented lifter here in terms of progression and potential.
But he hated training. And expected to fail. And he did, despite his programming being on point.
Caring about lifting is important. If you don't care, then it doesn't matter what programming you're doing.
m8 I'm gonna total 1000kg by december desu
Seriously though, I've made tons faster progress than Norse ever did at least, (not to bring him down) so why would I go from fast progress to no progress at all?
Nah I want to control my descent purely just so I don't screw my setup for the next rep
You're right senpai
Shit if you think you wont hit a wall then you must really think you're different from everybody. Even juicing monsters hit walls and barely makes progress after a year. You'll just be another norse, you'll burn out and never get back on tracks.
>hes fucking up his 5 reps because he is dropping the weight far from his shins.
The fuck are you on about?
It doesn't matter. He's controlling the weight in a near free fall. Don't tell the turtle how to turtle when you're just a tiny turtle.
>outturtle /plg/ by 2017
I'm done for
I know I'll hit a wall eventually, but what I'm saying is you don't go from fast progress to none, you go to fast to ok progress for a while, then you hit a wall, you don't just go from fast progress on your lifts to none instantly lad.
Nah I've only got 730kg total at 142, which is like a 407 wilks after 2 years lifting, I need to get over 770 to outturtle /plg/
B-but I'm gonna hit 260 at this comp in march as my minimum goal, and wilks agrees, I'll finally have a semi respectable squat
Lol even george has faster progress than that, sorry if that's your personal experience
What are we training next familia?
I'm bumping tomorrow's squat day to today. Call the fucking cops I don't care.
>5th day in a row benching 270/122 3x3 before isolation and accessories
Harder than I expected t b h
Mmmm I love me some sldl. Going for 4pl8x8 tomorrow.
>tfw stronger than wank at ohp
Had to be better than you at something ®:^)
What are you doing for rear delts?
What you ohp senpai?
I've been trying to being up my ohp for the last month since it sucked due to mot ever training it, and already hitting bench PR's early into my training cycle :D
Now 'ill do some serious predictions
Bodorio will burn out at the start of the second semester
Isley will actually progress this year
Norsefat will stick to a program this year and make squat gains
Wank will not make any significant progress after the start of the second semester
Im going to deadlift 300kg by the end of november.
I only press 100 but I'm using manlet relative strength privilege. I've banged out 97x2 though.
Haven't pushed for a pr in over a year now though
I do face pulls for rotator cuff though? Maybe we're doing it differently. Rows have been my go-to for rear delts
Not trying to shit on you Isley, i just meant that after you get to a certain level powerlifting-wise, you wont progress much, maybe a few kgs on all the lifts. Which Wank claims wont happen to him and he'll increase his lifts by 100 or 50kg every year
>using manlet sub 30% bf twink shit bw ratios
My goals for this year is 280/195/340, which is already slower progress than I've had, I get it'll get even slower after that.
Even if I don't hit those goals, I'm gonna train my ass off and eat like a 700lb bedridden hamplanet, to be the best Powerlifter I can be
247.5/172.5/310 @142, 2 years liftan
Training is going very well right now, have set 260/180/320 as goals for my meet in 5 weeks
>get the fuck up
Mirin grind desu
That was the vid that got you your trip right?
>all this doubt in me
I'll show you all ;_;
Just dont get your hopes up, you're not the first one in here to come and say you'll outlift everyone by the end of x time. Hell, i still remember Bryce going on and on about how he would outlift everyone and by the end of the second year lifting he burnd out so hard he almost quit lifting.
Breh you know I believe in you to the point where it ends up being self loathing for me
Thanks m8. I know a lot of people snap their shit up on ohp. I've been pretty lucky
I'd rather get my hopes up lad, it won't stop me from lifting if I don't hit those goals, I'll just continue lifting, I just like setting hard goals, because it has me motivated to perform at my best, so even if I don't hit it, I'll at least be getting the best possible progress I can get.
Thx bby <33
Going to attempt new PR on bench monday 15.2 (1,5 weeks from now)
Last bench workout I did was this monday (and today some speed bench)
How should I train next week? Haven't done a light week in ages, so should I just do normal weekly routine with 60%?
Making some decent OHP PR:s
>all these people thinking X is going to get stronger or not get stronger
>Be honest with yourself – when you squat, do you feel your quads working? Or are you feeling an all-around hip/back discomfort and not much strain on the legs? If it’s the latter, then your weak legs aren’t getting any stronger, while your overdeveloped hips and back are continuing to overwork.
I feel like that article is highly disingenuous. Especially the fact that the "perfect" squats they show at the end are all people with good proportions squatting loads quite low compared to their max, while hitting barely IPF legal depth
You missed the important first sentence to that quote "If you want to increase the olympic lifts, leg strength is mandatory". That article is all about the squat as an accessory for olympic weightlifting, which isn't necessarily relevant for powerlifters. Do the main movement and if you're worried about your quads throw in some front squats.
Look up articles on squatting for powerlifters to help you if you want to powerlift. Perfecting your high-bar technique for maximal quad strength won't do as much for your max squat potential as perfecting your powerlifting squat technique with max weight in mind. Perfect your form according to your goals.
"no sudden movement" - Five finger death punch
i haven't heard an angry metal/metalcore song that clicked with me like this in fucking AGES
i guess i'm going to deadlift today
>feel super fucking lazy squatting 4x per week instead of 7
>feel like a child again because none of my body hurts
>no stress over daily maxes, focusing on volume accumulation (hit x or more reps at y or more weight, improving x and y over time)
>able to fit in prowler work with my buddies now
>3 hour class just let out after 45 minutes because professor had research deadlines to meet and didn't prepare anything other than student presentations and a quiz
How are you lads holding up?
I'm high-strung from doing asstons of homework for the past few weeks (why the fuck does my freshman chemistry class have more homework than any of my upper level classes like combustion engines?), and I went full retard and deadlifted two days in a row, so I'm taking the afternoon off to just dick around.
Where do I find this song? Not on the youtubes.
It's a bizarre feeling. I want to do more but I don't want to relapse into the "I hate squats" mentality I was getting. Maybe I'll go for long walks on off days to help be less fat.
Sometimes dick around sessions are the best. Everyone likes biceps.
Lower level courses as an upperclassmen are infuriating. I was taking a freshman class last semester and wanted to fucking slap everyone every time they asked any question because I had already learned everything in another class in way more detail. All of the work feels like busywork bullshit.
Yeah, if you can call it that.
M: squat, GHR, heavy bench variant, push bodybuilding
T: squat, GHR, pull bodybuilding, beat up a tire with a hammer
R: squat, GHR, heavy overhead variant, push bodybuilding
F: squat, GHR, pull bodybuilding, prowler
BW: no change
Squat: 415 to 455 in 2 months of 4x per week, 455 to 520 in 114 days of every day
Deadlift: injured (like 405 probably) to 545
Off to bed early so I can wake early af for a comfy empty gym deadlift PR.
Goodnight and wish me luck /plg/
VOLUME BASED, INTELLIGENT TRAINING WORKS FOR EVERYONE. ARE YOU SOME TWINK SCARED OF TWELVE SETS OF TRIPLES?
I wasn't having fun. I lift heavy stuff to have fun.
had to stop todays squat and yesterdays deadlift sessions short because of really bad glute ache
comes on once i get heavy, feels like pulling at the bottom of my squat and a punch in the glutes on deads, really deep ache in the middle of my glutes
First time deadlifting again and i experience the same problem i ever had and the reason i stoped deadlifting at all.
Pic related, how the fuck do i fix it? I have tried so much shit and i just cant.
I had the exact same issue (pic related), but then I started pulling sumo like a man, and now I don't have that problem.
Spent like 1 year trying all kinds of setups, mental cues, hip hinging, stretching to get rid off it, but failed, so stoped deadlifting all together.
This shit usually makes my back feel bad the day after so something is horrible wrong.
No idea what to do, i guess i just cant deadlift.
Hmm, looks like yours is higher up and not really compareable, dont you think?
I guess, yea.
B-but muh conventional :E
I just don't get what is going wrong.
Actually, guy I know he's the exact same thing, but he deadlifts 200kg and progresses fine, no pain nothing.
I don't get it
>how the fuck do i fix it?
your reps got worse through out the set, form was fine to begin with.
>do more good reps
>dont train shit reps
>dont max out
>doing sumo to not round back
the quitters way out.
Been lifting for about 1.5 years or so, exhausted most of the linear novice gains from SL5x5, switched to TM and didn't like it not get much strength gains from it, disliked low bench frequency. Looking to do a slow bulk over the next year as I just completed my first cut on a PPL and was looking for a high frequency, high intensity program for strength, any recommendations?
Lifts are 0.75/1.5/2/3 for 5 reps, if that matters.
Oh wow, I recognise you guys. I probably speak with you every day on here, but the last time I spoke with you for definite was like 6 months ago.
Nice to know you guys are still here.
but he didn't care about getting good at conventional deadlifting specifically, he cared about getting good at deadlifting. and sumo is still a deadlift, and he's better at sumo than conventional
go to /stg/ if you're going to be a muh conventional faggot
eating pizza rolls after doing hook grip deads, the edges on pizza rolls are hurting my fingers
But this occurs independent of weight I chose, it always looks like this - that's exactly my problem.
Even when I do one plate and take a screenshot at the same position in the lift the whole thing will look the same.
>how do i fix my lowbar problem
>do high bar
they're both squats, but you're avoiding the problem by telling him to do something else completely different.
you're still an easy way out faggot with awful deadlift form. don't try convince anyone you're not.
its really not rounded enough to clearly cause you any trouble. as long as your contracting your lower back and holding position through out/dont let it getting more rounded, you're good
Dumbbell bench press was the worst thing I dropped.
>do dumbbell bench
>don't do it
Nobody gives a shit about highbar squat in here
this is PLG
where we do LOWBAR squat, MASSIVELY ARCHED bench press, and STRONGEST deadlift (sumo for a lot of people) :)
so kindly fuck off
It must be non visible problem though.
I guess it's very possible that I have rounding in my back that can't be seen from outside?
For example because of bad bracing?
My back feels shit after deadlift, like someone kicked me in the lower back.
I hate this fucking shit, can you believe that someone is just unable to fucking deadlift?
I bench more than I can deadlift, i swear.
>"no sudden movement" - Five finger death punch
>i haven't heard an angry metal/metalcore song that clicked with me like this in fucking AGES
>implying your failure to keep a neutral spine is down to 'genetics' or anything out of your control
you're just a pussy and run at any sign of struggle :(
gonna focus on "muh aesthetics" after you bomb your first meet?
It looks better sumo but it doesn't feel better, it's literally the same fucked up feeling a few hours after.
Start at 2:58 for some sumo I did a while ago.
Looks better, doesn't it?
>preferring girls who have dicks
I'm very progressive, anon. You're the one who can't accept the spectrum of sexualities and has to apply the same label to everyone who isn't like you.
Quite a few trips in here with a really strong deadlift that also are surrounded by people that lift seriously and yet none of them has anything to add.
Literally, every time someone asks an interesting questions it's always anons that give advice and share experience.
In all honesty, it's quite disappointing and I must miss understand the reason behind tripping.
shits and giggles, like everything else in here.
shits like you are the problem
i get help from them all the time
but if I were a strong trip and saw a shitty pissy passive aggressive post like yours, id leave this thankless place for the day
>ive been here A WHOLE WEEK and they dont even want to reiterate things they have said 5000times the last 2 years for me personally
>how dare they interact with eachother
I lurk here and have never posted an actual question, but I always look out for interesting questions - whenever one gets asked, it's literally 99.9% anons that reply and discuss.
Whenever a trip answers to a question its usually strong generalization - like "everyone should bench with max legal grip" or shit along the lines.
This excludes Marcel, Avon, captain and to some extent wank.
Nah I have been here around 2 years.
Especially you are probably one of the least helpful trip, hands down.
I understand that you are here to do whatever, it's just kind of disappointing and I literally don't get what you trip for.
>I lurk here and have never posted an actual question, but I always look out for interesting questions - whenever one gets asked, it's literally 99.9% anons that reply and discuss.
this makes me think you are very very new
>"everyone should bench with max legal grip"
Tbh tripping in a general is logical considering that 90% of the population is the same from thread to thread.
Not a good day. Wanted to do five signles with this, but I deadlifted yday and should haven trained friday instead.
Usain Bolt - 9.58 (TOTALLY CLEAN)
Tyson Gay - 9.69 (suspended for drug test failure)
Yohan Blake - 9.69 (suspended for drug test failure)
Asafa Powell - 9.72 (suspended for drug test failure)
Justin Gatlin - 9.74 (served 6 years of bans for drug test failures)
>tfw have 66gb of me lifting
>don't want to delete it because there could be PR's in there
>running out of space on my drives
You will regret that.
I mean, yeah that's pretty good.
So you want to tell me that you are convinced of being a valuable contributer to various lifting related questions around this general?
You share experiences of your progress, problems you have / had and how you eventually fixed them, etc?
Max legal grip is 32". Measured my grip at 20". Inadvertently been doing narrow grip for years lads. Going to move out an inch a side every few weeks so my chest can actually get some work. It just felt natural man.