>havent dated in 6 years >have sex with the idea that I'll be serious about it in university >probably won't have time for relationships >living with the fact that I have trust issues and doubt relationships will last longer than a few months
I'd fug ugly chicks just because I don't have to commit but I'd like to date a qt
Yeah man feels good when you know you're the best dude they've ever been with, but at the same time isn't very fulfilling if you don't really like the girl.
I've been seeing this girl who's really smart and I can actually talk to, but I'm not super attracted to. Feels conflicting because I like her sexy brain but not her body. If you have trust issues and aren't 100% confident that you're a baller it's probably best to date below your level and don't let them forget that you're the best they could get.
I consider myself a 7 due to good build, handsome and yet short. I would date a 6 if she had some distinctive features that made her particularly attractive to me. I prefer southern euro women with large noses and mouths, like sofia coppola.
>thin, ugly, sad, and worthless >turn life around, get /fit/ >Only date people who were the way i use to be >imagine myself helping them reach their potential. >never works out >In every case, my ex's were unable to respond to "coaching" they just take it as criticism and feel like i was magnifying their flaws. >Everything i worked for is pushing loved one away. >Tfw /fit/ is all i have and soon age will strip it away
>>35966363 The really scary thing I noticed on myself that I started to become very critical and judgemental towards other peoples looks even though I only started working out like 2 months ago and Im still basicly a DYEL skinnyfat faggot.
>>35967720 >for the first time my gf worries that I could do better and she the jelly one instead of me being jelly >anon I don't think you're ready to commit >w-what >I just feel that you're still looking for someone and that's okay if that's what you want >n-no >anon why me you could pick anyone why me I don't want to get hurt >anon I'll always love you >y-you too I'm not even 10% bf does this get worse as I drop body fat?
>>35966363 That implies I could get anyone in the first place my man. Being /fit/ does not remove my spaghetti whenever conversation moves beyond friendly topics.
At this point I'm coming to accept loneliness. 24 y/o kv, and it won't change anytime soon since I never see girls my age anyways. I work overnight and go to the gym at 5am, when I am undoubtedly the youngest one there by at least 10 years. I don't even really think about it anymore unless I come to threads like this, and once I jerk off later I'll stop caring again.
That or just be different than what they're used to.
I was a deputy sheriff for six years, and most of the guys I worked with were good ol'boy meathead types. After it became common knowledge that I was studying IT, getting certs, and that I was a geek off-duty, all the female co-workers were real flirty.
Honestly, I think it was because they figured I was a homebody, which I was, and that they wouldn't have to worry about me partying or going out late at night. They'd always know where I was most of the time when they went to work.
I managed to snag a qt nurse out of it, but damn, there was some fine deputy pussy too. Didn't really have much time to explore it since I was on my way out after getting a new job.
I never even try with girls unless they seem like someone I could spend the rest of my life with, so that's like one person per 6 months. I end up putting all of my eggs in one basket and I ALWAYS get turned down this way, even though I'm pretty attractive, and get extremely depressed for a week after.
> tfw fetish for shy qt feminist-looking grills > tfw 90% of them are cripplingly insecure and shocked someone is showing interest > tfw they always want to be dominated in bed > tfw force them to confront how bullshit their ideology
>>35966450 relax breh. Just stop thinking they are worthy of your perfection. They are just normal fucking people. You have nothing to be worried about or to be nervous about. We are all gonna fucking make it breh. all of us.
>date girl way above my aesthetic level >start lifting to get on her level >move in together etc live is good >4 years later and i'm now above her in terms of aesthetics >as we age the difference will only become bigger >see girls on instagram/fb/outside that before i thought looked like models and way outta my league >realize that's my league
>not sure what to do >gf cooks all my high protein food and pins me >obsessed with me even after 4 years and i like it >not at all crazy etc >but look at all those asses on dat dere greener grass
>>35966363 >better looking than ever >more insecure than ever >never had any confidence due to being skinny and ugly >no game. Never learned how to approach girls >will never be attractive enough for girls to just approach me (like zyzz) >on the off chance a girl happens to like me and make a move, they are typically crazy/stupid/have tons of issues >26 is too late in the game to enter the dating world >gonna be alone my whole life >never gonna make it >can't wake up
Try Asian girls. If you are white you'll get fine as fuck Asian chicks way above your aesthetic level. You don't need a job or to be fit. In their eyes you'll be on level or above ground with Asian manlets who are good looking, fit and financially well off as long as you are white.
>>35972446 You still find her attractive? You still love her? Does being with her make you happy?
If not, then you have an actual decision to make if you want to stay with her.
If you say yes to all those questions then both of you need to work harder to maintain desire and excitement in your relationship. You already have a keeper, after all, don't get on that treadmill of trying to find something better than good. The effort never stops no matter how many years you've been together.
>>35968265 Same here mate. Except 20 year old KV. I go to university and study physics. For the next 5 years. And there are not even a handful of girls there. And they don't like very look. So for the next 5 years, there won't be anything changing. Outside of university I never see girls my age, but if I do they are taken and/or stupid drinking sluts and whores.
>>35972516 how is 26 too late? I recently got out of a 6 year relationship and I'm 28 now, not /fit/ at all (skinny but working on it) but I've been bagging girls left and right for 3 months and now I have a new girlfriend, Tinder <3
Thanks for the advice man. I guess the answers to the first two are a yes. But the third no.
I dunno man. There's absolutely no lack of desire and excitement on her end. She acts like it's still the first few months of our relationship. It has only really died down for me. Probably because I don't have the "i can't believe she's with me" thing anymore.
I'm 95% sure I'm just going to stay with her for the rest of my life.. And probably not even cheat (haven't so far). But I'd hate for one day when I'm 50, and my gains have gone... to wonder what caliber of ass I could've been having in my prime.
I sort of missed my prime. I got a fairly good wife material girl because of my personality before I became 'good looking'.
you guys create a weird perception that women can detect everything about you moments before you approach them.
Girls are like guys and guys are like girls, were all after the same thing. Some may have priorities ( finding a rich man) but you wont have to worry about encountering these whores.
Women are genuine if you are genuine.
Iv been with enough girls. What ever you put out, they will put out. You wanna be a dick, so will they. You wanna be sweet? So do they. You wanna be a fat ass? So do they.
Women often mirror their partner. Girls look to men for guidance. Think back to every conversation with a girl. At least once in each encounter ( longer then 5 minutes) they indirectly ask for guidance.
As you get older you'll worry less about the quality of ass and more about the intensity of the passion. If you have someone you consistently can't wait to get on top of, you won't be concerned with what you've missed out on.
And that has less to do with looks than most people think. Pretty, fit girls can be boring and uninspiring after the first go-round. Keep that in mind.
Your gf might act excited and obsessive because she's aware that you have lots of options. It's exciting for her to work to keep you, and she feels good having a person that others want, too.
Perhaps you're not desiring her as much because she is always available and, like you said, she's not surprising you any more. You probably aren't concerned even a little bit about her leaving you, are you? When she makes you feel like she *could* find someone else as good as you, even if you trust that she won't, you'll have the excitement that she has.
I don't know anything about her, but you might encourage her to be a little bit more of her own person. To think of herself less of a girlfriend and to develop her identity more around her own goals and desires. Have her go out with friends and meet new people. Take up hobbies and projects. It's hard to let someone you love make space in their lives for others and other things... but keeping the relationship fresh is worth it.
Of course, if she's not staying fit and healthy around your level, that can be a big factor, too.
And unless you're over 40, you haven't really hit your prime yet. You'll still be fit and attractive for the next few decades... but with more money, power, and wisdom. That's your prime.
I have a thing for 'uglycute' - anyone else know what I mean or am I just crazy? the 5/10s are somehow hotter because you know they'll be shocked a hot guy like us is interested and they'll be working extra hard to keep your attention. There was this girl at the gym today who was skele with glasses, acne scars and weird teeth but for some reason I just wanted to beat dat ass up and would have probably spoken to her if I wasn't a raging autist.
>match with cute girl on Tinder >recently broke up with her bf >"I'm not looking for a relationship but not looking for just dick as well. Lol" >Womanese translation - "We're going to have sex when we meet up" >told me that I'm not her "type" but she essentially wants to try new things (I'm 6'2 200 lb low bf% mixed breed) >date sometime tomorrow or this weekend
She seems cool so far. Been pretty open and non bull shitty which is a plus when it comes to women nowadays.
lol it's weird. As soon as I put my abs on Tinder I have much higher quality matches. I could get hundreds of matches if I continually swiped left but the part of the city I'm in is pretty sparse with attractive women my age (20-24).
>mfw I just remembered it's Valentine's Day weekend
>>35966363 You're assuming that there are more guys who are "juicy" than women. While this may be true in some places, and at certain points throughout your life, I've mainly seen women be the weak link in staying fit. This is either because it's "hard" to do, for a long time period, or because they've already caught their fish in the vast ocean of men. So they don't see a point anymore. That's not just hear-say, or being hateful, but my experience in 30 years of living life on planet earth. I don't keep in shape to attract women, although I'm sure people here will call bullshit even though it's true. I just enjoy feeling strong, looking good, and not having to ask people to help me open a pickle jar.
Also, you may want to remember this. When a woman dates a guy, she doesn't have to worry about what we really look like underneath make-up. Nor will they have to worry about how much "work" we've gotten done to make ourselves look better. People forget that women can mask/hide their flaws with compounds, girdles, push-up bras, breast augmentation, tanning beds, and the many-many-many other things women do to make themselves "appear" more attractive than they really are.
>why do men love cute little obedient brunettes with tight asses, flat stomachs, youthful faces, way above average intelligence, dogged dedication to their family's happiness, and the ability to cook sweet & spicy food
>>35976575 Asian women are short and stubby beta (muh submissive gf) moonfaces with the least curvaceous bodies out of any race. Your average asian-american girl is 4/5ths as attractive as a white woman yet much more willing to throw her inferior genes at you (which she herself hates) and isn't traditional in the slightest.
>>35966363 >live in a suburban area >three years fit >get laid all the time >no more gfs >want gf >realize ive already banged most of the attractive girls in my town, and theyre all whores >what do /fit/
>>35966363 I tried this and it backfired in my face wonderfully
>4 months into getting /fit/ >5/10 chick at gym takes interest in me >Figure I'll let her take my virginity >Ignore the fact that she's kind of chubby and crazy >Start dating, she makes it official on facebook after three days of us hanging out >tfw gf(?) >Get laid on 20 birthday, shit was alright >Brag about it on /fit/ later, because I'm autistic >Notice she tries to get me to come inside, says she's on the pill >Also notice self harm marks everywhere >Days go by, she becomes clingy as fuck, saying how I'm the best thing that ever happened to her >imonlyinitforsex.jpg >Talk her out of suicide every few days >Find out she's not really on the pill >All she wants to do is binge eat carbs or nap >Her friend says she thinks she's pregnant >Meanwhile, one of my Chad friends starts getting involved >She's into him, I want it to end, everything is fucking ruined >Break up with her, have it out with friend, entire circle of friends is fucked beyond belief >All I have now is weights and feels and a big box of unused condoms
Don't rush into shit guys, take your time and let things happen, otherwise you'll get burned beyond belief
>>35978188 This anon gets it. You're gonna make it.
>>35978211 My gf is probably a 5 or 6 and I've been rated 8-10, but that shits so subjective. But really how many women have you been with? I've been with 37 but have only been in 7 relationships, and anecdotally the most attractive ones were the most vapid, broken, and wastes of my time.
>>35968663 you should be dating people who are about as together as yourself, not intervening in lives like the saviour complex wants you to. i hope you defeat it, because you won't be happy in love until you're in a relationship of mutual respect and support, rather than super-anon helping some chubby no-hoper because he's so darn good.
It doesn't matter that you're 'nice,' that's the absolute fucking baseline. all you're doing with this interventionist shit is trying to prove to yourself that you're nice and selfless and out to help people, and that's not a framework that will make you happy in the long run.
>>35978517 Actually, thanks to deathgip and awful positioning (tallfag, hard to bone missionary while standing), I would last so long that she would eventually just call a quits and not even bother sucking me off or anything.
I spent as much time jacking off while I was with her than when I was a loner faggot on 4chan.
>>35972311 This is some delusional level bait man.
At any rate, the dating game is pretty much over for me. Lost virginity amd first kiss bassically by accident at 25. Once deeply religious now atheist in bible belt, undiagnosed(until recently) aspie actor, pro musician shut in, major depression since adolescence, then got red pilled after being king of white knights, gave up on music for career, wasted youth on dream I no longer care about, suicidal the past two years, cannot function as normal, balanced, well adjusted human being. I am shocked I made ot through the holidays, but valentines is kicking me hard. So I am fucked the fuck up. Sucks too, lost 100lbs and am a solid 7. But I am damaged. Dunno if I'll make it to 30. As fucked as this place is, I give /fit/ quite a bit of credit.
The grass is mostly an illusion you dipshit. The grass is mostly dead brown and scorced on the other side. Some people gatta make thier own mistakes to learn from them, but damn man, why do you wanna fuck shit up. Yeah, fine, tag some ass. Have fun. Just know what you have and might loose.
[on the partner] Aesthetic level matters so fucking little in absolute terms - as a reflection that a person has their shit together and can look after themselves in a sustained way being fit is a useful filter for who to enter relationships with.
It is, however, mostly useful as a heuristic for the rest of their shit. Do they take responsibility for their actions? Are they capable of long-term planning and hard work? Patience. Humility. Ambition.
These are the things you want in a life partner, and they're not traits you can impose on someone else.
[on you and your neuroses] of course you're a good person. you rarely act in a way that will hurt someone and when you do it's with good reason. it is very boring that you are a good person because so is every other motherfucker out there.
If you want a project then take one up, but don't confuse the (relatively virtuous) power trip of attempting to shape someone anew with the (equally virtuous) entirely separate idea of loving them.
If, at the beginning of a relationship you set out to change someone then you're not in love with them. it's ok to look out for your partner, and it's great to try and make people's lives better. Equally, it's ok to not be in love either with a specific person or at all. But confusing these is dumb as shit, intellectually dishonest and emotionally toxic for both you and them.
I know you are tryna help man. I dunno if you have actually considered suicide as a viable option because you have been that hopeless. It's a different level of feels. It's so easy to give up when the pain is tememdous enough. Everyone has thier breaking point, no matter how strong they think they are. I wish no one ever found thiers.
>Meet girl. >She is into lifting. >Get super excited jump into relationship with her two weeks after meeting. >Everything is wonderful. >Both of us are fairly successful, >Have careers, make money, in shape, not in debt, all our income is disposable. >Get engaged like 4 months in. >I start cheating on her. >Get married anyway. >She starts cheating on me. >She loses her job. >I have to pay for EVERYTHING for like 6 months. >She wouldn't change her spending habits, >I was okay with paying for shit, but that means we can't keep going out every weekend or only buying 100% organic free range imported Japanese beef that costs 30 lbs a pound. >Fucking fit bitches and their ridiculous diets. >Get divorced 7 months later. >Heart broken. >Realize I jumped into it without being ready and so did she. >Neither of us knew what to do with ourselves or had any friends so we got married. >Realize now we are both lonely people because we don't understand middle class white america. >Her mom was a meth head, >My dad cooked meth in the kitchen growing up. >Her dad would leave for months at a time >Her mom would fuck her male high school classmates and get high with them. >My mother was a raging alcoholic.
We are both so mentally fucked when it comes to intimate relationships, I realize this now. I miss having a /fit/ wife to lift with though.
Now I just fuck old flabby married women while their husbands watch. Sucks.
>>35977987 >>35977987 >start fucking so fat bitch that has head problems >want it to end >friend likes her and she likes him >easy out if you just step the fuck out of the way >dumbass fucks everything up and ruins all the shit
You dumb bitch all you had to do was be "unavailable," For a few days and she'd have clung onto your friend and your problems would have been solved for you
I started dating a fat girl as a skinny skellington, then got juicy and suddenly have options. The dilemma: she's rich as fuck and can give me an easy life but there are multiple other girls way finer after my dick. What do?
I know that with luck, I can make her something better, but then again, I just went to a bar and had a hotter girl ask me to feel her tits, which I did. And the constant temptations like this are killing me and making me feel like shit.
>>35978971 >then got juicy and suddenly have options Im...sorry for hijacking but i need to ask you something How juicy are you? i mean i concider myself pretty juicy but i got zero options and id love to change that shit
Quid pro quo, dont date her because she is rich. It will backfire and you will end up feeling like she owns you in the best of cases. In the worst of cases she will guilt you into staying claiming she did shit for you and so on Do what YOU want to do, but dont choose a path because its easier right now
>>35979055 Millionaire parents, politically connected (i.e. state governors and federal judges) grandparents. She has a six figure "budget" (not her money, obviously) to buy a house with when we graduate in the spring. Honestly considering marrying her, waiting a year, then breaking it off for the property alone. In the meantime however, I'm going crazy looking at extra-relational pussy.
>>35978993 I'm >>35966474 And I gotta say I've been in the same boat, and my gf had a pretty nice body, but 2 years in I was completely numb to it and was constantly thinking about the other girls I was missing out on.
So we broke up and I've fucked 5 girls since with no stopping in sight, and am glad I did, but I still think of my ex every day. The grass is always greener I guess, but I think I would've been a lot more unhappy if I had stayed with her always wondering about other girls.
I don't know how deep in you are, but if I was you I'd break it off. It will still feel like a piece of you is gone forever and when you think of her you'll only remember the nice little things, and for a while everything will remind you of her.
>>35979125 I'm juicy enough. 6'4, 197lbs pure muscle no fat. Not that juicy, but I have a good face and good prospects/education/"class" (for want of a better word, I'm fucking drunk, fuck you). I'm just terrified that I'll never find another girl who isn't a huge slut. I can see myself raising kids with this girl, and despite wanting to fuck other women constantly, I do know that she is a plane above them in terms of marriage material, if not pure physical chemistry...because right now, it's a struggle to get it up to fuck her if I'm not drunk. I haven't had an orgasm without closing my eyes to imagine something else in over a year.
>>35979181 >I haven't had an orgasm without closing my eyes to imagine something else in over a year. Alrght, im guessing having options depends on other factors so lets table that shit This isnt holding up mate, if the sex doesnt work and you have options why would you stay? im sure there are other girls who fit the bill so to speak and can turn you on My advice is to think hard about this, you might not be able to find all that youre looking for in life so you will have to choose but personally id never pick a girl i couldnt have sex with just for a relationship
>>35979203 Well then it just depends on how much you can suppress you conscience! If you couldn't live with being a shitty person, break up with her and go on a spree. But if you're feeling extra machiavellian milk those rich people connections as much as possible while fucking other girls on the side!
>>35979219 It boils down to money and stability vs sex...the Match Point dilemma.
I'm able to land a great girl from a good family who will ensure my financial stability and ease of passage through life, or making it my own way with some girl (who I haven't met yet and have no idea of) who I would find physically attractive but who might be a gold digger and not loyal/have a sexual history that would be uncomfortable as well as not being from a family that has solid economic means.
It's a true brain-tickler. My entire life lays ahead of me, in a way that any other choice I've made to date would.
>>35966363 I will date anyone who is not on the trees at three
I just dont give a shit lol
Im young, good looking (or at least the best looking i will ever be), going to university (that means all people of my peer group are equally poor as me) and i will never again have to chance to slay as much pussy
gimme jo ugly ass girlfriend and i will fuck her, give me that 9/10 thats in love with me and i will fuck her, but fuck commitment, fuck that man
>>35972567 same concept for getting a job in asia, the white face is a good substitute for credentials You still gotta have some qualifications in place that aren't China, but you can get away with having significantly less experience or education than locals. And, well, you'll get laid every day.
Lol, finding Asian women attractive (not ALL Asian women, but I'm sure you know what I mean) doesn't have to be some weaboo fetish. And what's with this eugenics-like BS? If she's attractive and smart and has a good sense of humor, doesn't matter what race she is senpai.
>>35972446 The best advice i ever gotten was, and im paraphrasing; "Don't settle with a girl you can live with, settle with a girl that you can't live without."
I broke up with 2 GFs because of that, and i realize now it was the right choice since i was just kinda comfortable with being in a relationship and i was afraid of being alone.
Now 6 years later i've found the girl of my dreams, a girl that i've been together with for 5 years and lived with for 3 without a single major fight, i've never doubted her loyalty, and she's highly educated and has the same hobbies as me. So now i don't have to pretend to be someone else when im with her.
You can be 4/10 and get 10/10 qts if you are smart enough and not a tool. Maybe not for hookups, but definitely for relationships. Your journey to get /fit/ should also include study of art, philosophy, math, etc.
>tfw finally getting a nice body >girls start to mire, people expect me to be some Chad pussy destroyer >I am actually a small dick nerd who likes to read, play tabletop and watch stuff I honestly just enjoy lifting heavy weights and putting it back down. I should just give up aesthetics and go full powerlifter.
>>35966363 >Be cynical as fuck >Have negative self opinion >Because of various interests, girls assume I am intelligent, but I haven't said anything particularly smart >See them building an ideal version of me >Lose respect and interest
Repeat until infinity. Love yourself bros, self-hate can only lead to gains and self-caused lonliness.
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