Would a man without any fighting expierience but with a weight of 180lb and a height of 6' be able to win a fight against ronda?
Of course, any male with a bodyweight of 160lb + would be able to destroy that weak bitch.
She may have more stamina and better grappling skills but that doesent change the fact that she is a woman.
No. We all know that women are much weaker than men, but come on, she is one the top female MMA fighters in the world. Most men would lose to her and there's no shame in that. It's the same as saying that an average man could run faster than a female 100 meter sprinter, which clearly isn't true. When will this meme about a common man being able to beat one of the top women in MMA die?
I'd fucking love for you to meet Ronda one day. I'd put everything down on her getting you in an armbar within 30 seconds, and I don't even like her.
Have you ever been in a fight? Studied any type of martial arts? Used your brain for anything other than looking for fap material?
Also she is walking around at like 160lbs when shes not fighting.
But her striking sucks and she cant shoot takedowns cause of her knees, so i think most people with good striking expirience, good clinchcontrol and a signifikant weight advantage would win a figt against her.
Impossible. 6 feet 180 Lb is basically twink mode, not enough core strength to stay stable and fortified to stop the take down and throw/trip attempts. Add 30lb of mostly muscle and at least the capability of pulling 5 plates for reps, then... Slight chance of succeeding. Still would likely lose, but if you can keep it standing and don't get caught, you might last long enough to land a lucky uppercut or elbow while she's close and subsequently knock her out.
Sorry, i disagree. I'm 6'1 / 180 and completely untrained and can completely dominate my bf and brother (both manlets) in wrestling. Both of them wrestled in HS and undergrad.
Imagine a 145 lb woman. You could literally kill her with a punch.
If he got a lucky hit in she'd fold like a deck of fucking cards. Even in a clinch an average dude might be able to retard-strength his way out.
I almost wish mixed sex mma fights were permitted just to underline exactly how weak women are. A lot of feisty women would go very quiet very quickly.
>man being able to beat a woman
I would literaly pick that weak cunt up and break her back by throwing her on my resting knee, then rape the shit out of here to show those feminists.
this is what closeted neets who know nothing and do nothing but lift weights actually believe. You guys seriously think you're turned into some invincible Hercules just by lifting some weights. Its like believing in Santa clause ffs
Skill doesn't matter if you don't have necessary power output to make it effective. Greatest driver in a world won't do shit in a race with a terrible car.
Why do you think fighters are divided by weight categories?
An average man fighting and average woman is like an average man fighting a chimpanzee.
Sure, a top fighter might get lucky and knock out a chimp in one punch, and a top female fighter might get a lock on a man, but I'm still putting my money on the chimp or the man.
>people on /fit/ are this delusional.
She's fuck the vast majority of /fit/ up, if you think that sheer muscle will compensate for endurance and professional experience you have no fucking idea, women are a lot weaker than men but you're talking the 0.1 percent of women here.
They're divided by weight categories because they're all on the same fighting skill professional level. You guys are not professional athletes, she doesnt need to be your size to kick your average ass and your extra 20 lbs doesn't mean Jack shit when Shes trained and you're not. She's like 150-160 when not fighting, she's not a small woman. Comparatively that's probably more muscle per square inch than a Guy who's 6 ft 180lbs
I did that with no experience whatsoever
I was able to toss him around, grab him and roll, and get him into a rear naked choke in the course of about 30 seconds.
I had about 20lbs on him.
Next go I managed to get a full mount and he just couldn't do anything.
Congratulations, you used the dumbest example. One of the greatest things you can have when it comes to rasslin is weight. Weight and muscle.
The amount of butthurt in this thread is astounding. The average normal man who has seen the occasional fight will be more capable than her. The difference in strength between men and women is actually massive. A gril who I used to know was a boxer for many years and I was joking with her one time, she threw a shit right in my face and it barely hurt. I quite easily grabbed her arms and told her to stop struggling until she cried. Women are pathetic when it comes to fighting. No amount of feminist action films will change that.
Considering how weak her striking is, a couple of good hits to her face should do it.
If she gets you down though, it's probably game over unless you can get an arm free and continue striking.
>told somebody to go rassle a kid that rassled for a team
>I did and got the advantage every time through weight, leverage and muscle
>I was also the exact same age as him
Seriously. He was 18, I was 19. I had 20lbs on him, and was slightly more muscular.
Your example is retarded. Now if you're talking sprawling/groundwork like BJJ or Judo, you have a point. But that point stops when the guy with 20 extra pounds lands a hook on Ronda's exposed jaw and sends her to the fucking mat.
Seriously, she got wrecked by a girl that's at least 40lbs lighter than I am, and got rekt by pretty soft hits, compared to same weight range for male fighting.
I ain't no fighter, but I'm pretty confident that if it went to the ground, I could sprawl and maintain and not give her the arm bar, or I could just walk around with a guard and smack her in the face a bit, as she seems to have a habit of blocking punches with her face,.
>asks for an example
>waaah not enough
Fine. I also threw a guy that weighed 50kg more than me off the mat itself, got him into a naked choke, and an arm submission through some stupid shit I thought of on the fly that kinda worked.
I still got wrecked hard if he managed to get his weight on top of me, though.
And as we discussed, this is inexperienced male fighter with 20+lbs on an experienced fighter. And both of my opponents were highly experienced, having been rasslers for 4 years.
There's a lot of factors, hombre, but I think any guy can connect a few solid jabs and a right hook and put her in the dirt.
>mfw ex gf was about my weight/height and was as strong as I was
>mfw she got angry one time and punched me in the face and I actually laughed because of how pathetic it was
Ight, here's my take on it using my own experiences in hockey;
Here we see Rick Rypien fighting Brad May. Rick is 5'11" 195lbs and Brad is 6'2" 210lbs (and I can tell you from experience he looks way bigger in person). Now, let's get it out of the way that an MMA fight is very much different from a hockey fight, duh, I know they're different. But hear me out. Here we have a smaller guy in Rick, who is in total control of his larger opponent, throws him off balance even. May absolutely clocks him in the start of the fight but Rick keeps going. The key here is that each of them have an arm tied up. Despite Brad being the larger of the 2, Rick evens the scales once Brad can no longer throw punches. At 5'11" if Rick Rypien can do that, I think someone of his caliber could easily take Ronda if he just managed to get a hold of her arms. Any man will have the strength advantage, so once she can't strike with her dominant hand you should be able to beat her senseless. She won't be able to submit you if you keep a firm grasp on her arm.
Here's some more men manhandling men and then tell me a man couldn't manhandle a poof like Ronda;
I'm fairly confident that any man who has had any fighting experience could take her if he had the strength advantage.
I used to train Aikido with a bit of BJJ and Judo mixed in, with a heavy focus on groundwork and sprawling. I know a decent amount, enough to know that the slightest weight/muscle advantage in a proper groundwork scenario is fucking death.
>i have to keep proving myself to this random anon!
>i did all this and that! Also dont forget about this!
>im an expert despite not actually practicing anything!
bahahahaha! A lot of talking, LOL
>mfw I never claimed to be an expert
>mfw I literally just did naked chokes and full mounts with one wonky arm pin
If you know anything about rasslin you'd know the naked choke is only something total fucking scrubs do.
This. Its almost like Gracie vs Shamrock all over again. People never learn technique is more important than strength. Strength important too but it only takes you so far.
Just look at Lesnar vs Velasquez, Johnson vs Cormier, Petruzelli vs Kimbo
a fight with rules, highly unlikely.. a fight without rules might have a chance, but it will be a pretty small chance unless you have fought before. A big part of fight training is having been in fights and getting used to fighting and being hit.
Technique doesn't seem to be as nearly as important as experience in what I have seen. Again though this is for a fight without rules.. a fight to fuck somebody up, not win a match
There is a difference between your average joe throwing a hook and a trained fighter throwing a hook. Technique matters but experience is most important. Basically like any other sport. Learn the technique but it all comes down to experience to apply what you learned.
No. The average (even lower tier) male MMA fighter would destroy her in minutes, as tends to happen when female and male athletes compete against each other. The biggest example of this was the US women's Olympic hockey team losing to high school boy's teams while they were training.
An average man might be able to outlift Ronda, and would have a slight advantage from the weight and reach. But, he'd have no idea how to handle himself in a fight and likely wouldn't stand a chance.
8/10 times probably not. She'd most likely be able to submit him before he could catch her with a punch, although if you ran the fight a bunch of times the guy would probably get lucky and knock her out in a minority of them. She also walks around at ~160, a 20 lb weight difference isn't enough to nullify her skill.
Now, if the guy had enough training to even be a mediocre fighter, Ronda would get destroyed.
Some savage alpha guy maybe. Just like a gorilla would win with a trained human by pure strength. But pussified westerner - I don't think so. Even if he was 6'0, 180 lean, he would be uncoordinated mess with his brain programmed to never touch a woman (which is a good think though).
Fuckin people have no idea what martial arts are what XD
Traditional Jiu-jitsu, from the japs was utilized by the civilians and samurai to fight bigger stronger armored opponents. It encompasses alot if shit including throws, submissions, striking, weapon fighting and weapon defence.
From traditional jiu-jitsu many other martial arts were bred, including judo, which is just throws and transitions into pins/holds.
Brazilian jiu-jitsu was taught from the japs to the Gracie family which was mostly submissions and grappling.
TL;DR- Ronda is an aggressive judo striker that you COULD one shot. This goes for any fighter. But if she closes the gap and throws you into a pin there are few countermeasures.
There was actually a M to F tranny who fought women in the UFC. By all accounts, he was mediocre at best, technically speaking. He went 5 and 1. The five women he beat said they were just ridiculously overpowered, like nothing they had ever faced before. The one woman who did beat him later tested positive for steroids.
>threw a shit right in your face
Damn that's fighting dirty
11 years total of martial arts training,
I've seen her fight and she hasn't seen me. In a match I'd win. In a streetfight I'd win.
Could an untrained male beat her?
Honestly they might, I've seen girls get uppity and try to take on a lesser trained man to prove some bullshit point and then just get shit all the fuck over. As long as the guy takes it seriously and doesn't fuck about or go all "ehhhhhh I can't do this, never hit a woman hurrrrdurrrr" he at least stands a chance.
>would an untrained women stand a chance against a pro male fighter?
Ask the fighters gfs.
Are you dumb? I'm 6 foot 190 lbs but would probably get my shit reked by her with in a few seconds.
I'm 6'3, 212 lbs., pretty strong and athletic (can bench 380, sprint fast, coordinated, etc.)
I've had a longstanding debate with my friends that if given 1 year of concentrated training with a good coach, I could beat her.
Should be the case, right? That is a damn big reach and weight advantage and it'd basically be a matter of training the best way to exploit that, look at how she fared against Holm the boxer, her striking skills are laughable.
What martial arts did you train in? I trained in Martial arts as well and I was pretty dam good but even then at my peak I wouldn't be able to fight her and win. MMA is hands down a better fighting style
adding on to this, consider the incredibly tiny talent pool of competition she's had to face, compared to the masses of men who fill up the different levels of male MMA leagues, she isn't a "pro" in the same sense as Jon Bones or Silva
She's 5'7" 135lbs. I'm 6ft 181lbs, and I could probably beat her with one arm tied behind my back. Most men have at least a small amount of fighting experience from their childhood and adolescence.
I don't even watch MMA, but come on. An almost 50lb difference in weight class is hard to overcome even for a man to man fight.
You retarded ? All it takes is one well connected punch to knock someone out twice the size as you. Ya size and weight give you a advantage but I have seen a lot of big guys get there shit kicked in by smaller less heavy dudes.
Dude, what? You could beat her right now while wearing a blindfold. I don't watch MMA, but I think you overestimate her.
Show me a video where a man beats another man 50lbs heavier than him. Both of them have to be lean.
Most guys with no fighting experience would get shook the first time she punched them square in the face and maybe broke their nose. That said 55 lbs gap, huge range advantage, and being a man are all big advantages, some would probably get the better of her.
I certainly wouldn't fight someone with a 55 lbs advantage on me unless they were just fat.
It's called real life anon, I have dazed a dude that probably had at least 30 to 40 pounds on me with a good punch. Basically you have to control the fight in a way where they can't use there weight to there advantage.
are you serious? I started doing bjj a couple months ago and I can mop the floor with all of the women in my gym easily. they're so weak it's not even a challenge. I can brute force pretty much any guard pass or submission on them I want. I'm 6'0 187lbs
Fighting isn't just about strength, there's also a lot of other skill involved. Precision, reflex, durability etc. Rhonda has many experience and practiced those skills for years so it's a tough answer.
She is such an awful striker I hate her current coach for even suggesting she work that shit.
Also, it's unfair to compare anyone to Tyson, arguably he is the greatest boxer of all time. Only Ali, Foreman, and maaaaaybe Frazier.
Alright, fine, I admit it, I'm biased to Heavyweights, and Tyson fell apart like a bitch at the end of his career. I'm also biased to boxers after the sixties. My entire opinions on boxing really were formed by my grandfather, who used to box amateur up here in Canada. He used to sneak me into the living room to watch bouts. When I was six he let me Watch Tyson's first bout with Holyfield and boy did he hate the way Holyfield fought...
He's passed away now; I miss him.
I'd just easily over power her, pinn her to the floor then spend the next couple of hours raping the cute little fuckslut into submission.
She might break my arm while trying to escape, but to feel that tight little gash spasming around my dick when she has a whoregasm is worth it.
I think everyone in this thread is seriously underestimating how utterly shit an untrained person is at fighting. As a martial artist I've seen way too many guys sprain their wrists trying to punch a heavy bag or fall over trying to kick a static target to believe an untrained average man can beat a pro female fighter outside of being incredibly lucky.
i was just about to post something like this. i really dont think most of you guys know what an ACTUAL punch to the head can do to you. im completely untrained and got in a fight with someone back when i was 18, he didnt know what he was doing either. after a lot of shoving and yelling i managed to get a lucky shot into his jaw, which knocked him out completely, as well as breaking most of the bones in my hand. not only can an untrained fighter not take a punch, they cant land one without fucking shit up nine ways from sunday.
even if you managed to connect a flimsy punch to the side of rouseys head, chances are you're going to lose use of that hand for the rest of the fight, and you've probably mildly pissed her off with your shitty blow. thats if she doesnt manage to nail you in the chin right away, which will put you on your ass in an instant.