Anyone here have experience with sarms if so which ones and what results did you get?
also anyone heard of a sarm called yk-11?
I wouldnt trust any "yk11" out there.
1) it has had absolutely no animal testing. It was created and then tested on some cultured cells in a petri dish.
2)Worst case, you get a prohormone. In which case you've just shut yourself down and will need clomid or nokva to restart your hpta.
LGD and Ostarine have some actual clinical research, both in animals and humans. Ostarine actually entered phase 3 human trials this year.
I would stick to istarine or LGD. From my personal experiences, ostarine is better for cutting, and really really good for healing/preventing tendonitis.
LGD will let you significantly increase your workout volume.
Neither one will pack on 20# of mucle, or jump your bench by 25#lbs after a few weeks,but they will let you recover from more volume, and handle greater training loads.
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fucking tards. I've blown through hundreds in sarms and I know now I should have just used steroids.
if you dont abuse the dosage dumbass besides that theres less suppressive ones you could take and not have to worry about it, the estrogen rebound when you come off cycle is the real killer for roiding
where you getting it from and are you sure its not the legal prohormone epiandro? instead of real synthetic steroids
the worst part there asking a natty community which is known for not knowing shit about the endocrine system
ahh i thought you where taking roids
i ill check that out im useing 400mg of DIM 100mg for each meal and 1 before bed and results are great that and i take 5000iu and it helps pretty well
have you ever tried legal prohormones ?
my results are meh from them but i get major back pumps 30min after i take it so i guess it works based off the roid forums
i know more about prohormones, steriods, estrogen blockers than SARM's so unless you wanna dig around for links imma not take sarms
the DHEA metabolite prohormones are safe for your liver and have a low conversion to estrogen so its litteraly a good practice run before you take the real deal, if i take a rather large dose aka 300mg of 1-andro sublingualy i can see around but mostly less than 10lbs of muscle mass added in 8 weeks with no conversion to estrogen and with an estrogen blocker im even safer off when i come off the cycle(HTPA). can i atleast get the same results with any of the sarms for the same price ? have you tried it ?
I'm somewhat interested in SARMS and somewhat reluctant to try roids. Mainly I worry about fertility (>inb4 HCG), hittin a vein when I pin (>inb4 just pin fegit), losing hair (>inb4 take fin) and become a bloated moonface (>inb4 estrogens). Too many variables, too many side effects, so easy to JUST yourself up.
A SARM that would allow me to pack a few pounds of LBM, I don't even need much I'd be happy with 5 pounds or something (No/small increase in fat of course). I'm more interested in extra capacity for recovery, more blood flow for resistance, extra tendon strenght.
There must be some experienced fag in here. Pls respond.
For that, if you want to really gain size(for a sarm cycle) take LGD, you can 4-8 weeks depending on what you want to do. If you take LGD do very high volume to maximize the potential of the drug. You are going to want a PCT because no matter what some people have said they are supressive. Especially LGD. Mini PCT just nolva for 4 weeks would be just fine.
Only take 5mg lgd, more has very diminishing results, and just shuts you down more.
If you want to recomp you can take ostarine with some GW, hell even just ostarine. Now with ostarine I would still take a PCT, or at least have it on hand in case you feel down. 45mg for 8 weeks would have you decently shutdown. Same protocol as LGD. GW is a hell of a drug for endurance and fat loss, there are mized opinions about it causing cancer, im fairly certain it doesn't but that's me.
Yo y'all have heard of xenoestrogens before yeah? plastics leaching into water supplies feminizining animal populations to the point of male congenital hermaphroditism and shit
well xenoandrogens exist as well, I was looking into this earlier and discovered that they're actually used as PEDs touted as undetectable by testing methods. there is not much info out there about this stuff though, i made a thread trying to ask around here when I was first checking this stuff out and literally no one replied. How are SARMS different? they're research chemical imitations of traditional steroids?
anyway if you want some info on xenoandrogens, xenoandrogens dot com is a good place to start. look around a lot though, there's some conflicting info out there.
can someone out there give me a rundown on all this freaky future shit? or point me to somewhere i can read up on it
Well what you trying to do?
Lgd 4mg per day, most do it right before they go to sleep because they it can cause lethargy. 4-8 weeks whatever you wanna do.
Ostarine 45mg per day whenever you want. Optimally 8 weeks, then same nolva procedure.
How does 8 weeks ostarine 45mg/ED followed by one week of nothing then 4 weeks nolva 20mg/ED?
Don't really care about weight loss, since I use DNP for that. However GW sounds based for that purpose.
I don't want you to feel like a spoonfeeding bastard, but some tips on where to buy Ostarine for cheapo?
US based a good company is toppeptides, they just recently got their website back up after getting hacked. Id still be careful and use a credit card, or a prepaid visa or such. BCF is a coupon for % some amount.
For cheaper I also like sarms.ca they have some good shit and have a coupon code prc26 for some % amount as well.
For more details id refer to the facebook group that was posted above. They have a pretty thorough sticky that goes through everything.
Also, if you have DNP for fatloss I would totally run LGD just for straight size and strength gains.
Took it a few months ago after breaking a rib.
It was a 'bad' break. Could feel part of my rib literally sticking out of my skin. Couldn't really move about much because it was extremely painful.
2 weeks after taking ostarine it was fully healed. There is still a lump where the break was. So maybe it healed out of place or something. But all I did was increase calcium intake and take ostarine once a day with breakfast.
After a week I could move about with less pain. After the 2nd week my rib was completely healed and I could lift again.
Continued to take it for the rest of the 4 week cycle. I can't comment on strength or muscle increase as I was taking tren at the time. But it sure as hell works for joints and bone health.
mg per day brah?
You've got exactly the results I want.
Currently on day one of 15mg x 4 weeks
Hoping it'll help with some hamstring tendinitis and an AC issue I've got.
500mg TUDCA per day as well since some raised liver enzymes were noted in the sarcopenia trial.
I was on tren so I was already completely shut down.
Didn't experience any sides. Just the joints in my fingers and elbows felt much more comfortable.
Wasn't taking any liver support or anything either. Didn't have any bad effects in terms of feeling lethargy etc.
The more potent SARMs majorly/entirely suppress your natural hormone axis like steroids, but recovery seems to be quicker.
They generally have other side effects similar to steroids, like fucking with your cholesterol. And sometimes like fucking with your vision (S4).
Generally, you'll want an AI on hand for a SARM cycle in case of itchy nips, and while you'll probably get by on recovery with supps like D-Aspartic Acid you may personally need a SERM as well. Some like Ostarine have dose-dependent suppression so you can try tapering off the dosage as well. Others like LGD are not dose-dependent with regards to suppression.
I'm actually glad we have a thread like this up
I was thinking of doing an MK-2866 (Ostarine) cycle for 30 or so days. I used prohormones before such as Super DMZ 3.0 and gained 12lbs in one month.
I was curious about what kind of routine should I be doing on a cycle such as MK-2866. Would I continue running Texas Method with fuck tons more accessories or run something more hypertrophy oriented?
Just got my LGD in the mail, going to run 5mg for 8 weeks while I finish up my bulk.
I'm trying to decide whether to buy some Nolva for recovery afterward. It seems like the safest bet for keeping gains but it's pretty expensive and has additional side effects I'm worried about.
I would run LGD assuming I had no nagging joint injuries, and was below 15% bodyfat and just bulk hardcore while on it.
If I had some injuries and was trying to cut some fat, while getting a little bit bigger I would do osta
Alright man. Thank you again for that spoon feed
I took ostarine plus an estrogen inhibitor for 2 months into my 4 month bulk.
I can't say for certain that it helps, but I was able to go from a 225 max bench to 265 lbs by the end of it.
>shut you down
Just a minor terminology correction: You mean suppress, not shut down. Shut down = 0 test, suppressed = less than normal.
Didn't happen to me. Only had a weird feeling in joints that made it hard to sleep a single night.
Not OP but I went through a bottle of LGD and did 9mg a day for 30 days and did an OTC aromatase inhibitor and had no issues at all. It worked well but I think I would do it a little different next time. Especially with eating more and doing more reps at lighter weight.
I did 8 week osta run. started on 12.5mg, ended on 31.25mg. only felt a little suppressed last week. ran nolva EOD for 1 week and back to normal. some sarms websites sell serm and AI solutions or powder so get it there. I took osta at 7 am, so the joint feels were gone by the time I would go to sleep. also my body got used to it really quick, hence I kept on increasing dosage. good strength and mass gains that I got to keep.
planning to run lgd+card for 8 weeks. got nolva, but I'll take it depending on how I feel. also it is said to have AI ready; so I guess I'll get aromasin?
did PPLPPLX on osta, will do the same on lgd. will keep on increasing volume with time.
I've bought ostarine from them and it was quality stuff. I'm trying to find out what dis candy ass is trying to say too. they are a little more expensive than others, is that it?
those cheap sites sell you fucken pills. how noob are you to take sarm pills? and then their inventory is very limited, I'm not trying to spread my order over 3 different sources. s m h f a m.
Just wondering if anyone knows any side effects of pic related.
Any other advice on it would be welcomed too I haven't started my cycle yet, I'm waiting to hear from a friend if he's had a positive experience.
I have ran ostraine and am currently taking it right now
I run it during pct and have to say this shit is the real deal. I have maintained all my weight and have actually increased it strength. The only negative side effect I have encountered is gyno flares when I uped the dosage. Other than that I feel great- have a great since of well being and gaining size.
If you have any questions feel free to ask
Yea this is going to sound like complete bullshit but a side effect of lgd is yellow tinting of vision. I've have been told that this is absolutely no way permanent and is due to the compound binding to the cones in your eyes.
If you have any more questions feel free to ask
Not who you replied to but im on my 5th week of anabol, so my second cycle and I haven't experienced that or anything else really
So would I need PCT (and what is that, I'm a newbie to supplements) or anything else to avoid side effects?
Not who you replied to either, but there's plenty of reports of people recovering pretty quickly from SARMS without PCT (after using reasonable doses for a reasonable time period). My personal interpretation is that you should be fine unless you experience symptoms of lowered test, but if you're worried some light PCT won't hurt you either.
How do I know of I feel the need of a pct? Why drugs are used for pct, and how do I avoid shuting down my estrogen? How long do you pct before getting back on?
sarms1 is a fine source you retard. Products work, and owner is a bro.
They're extremely cheap actually if you use the discount codes, but I wouldn't expect a retard who doesn't do research to know them :^)
Since I run it during a pct I can say without a doubt that you will get suppression. I would absolutely get a pct not only to be on the safe side, but also to get your test levels back and running as quick as possible. Something like alpha- male1 from IronClab would be a good option ( its currently what i'm taking) or you can search around for an alternate.
This isn't the best photo but i believe this around week 2 i'm not entirely sure- i could be wrong. Ill try to look for a front facing one too
Several supplements are known to significantly increase T in low-T and infertile men. While that doesn't necessarily mean a male with suppressed T, D-Aspartic Acid is a good place to start.