I had 3-4 randomized drug tests per week for 2yrs on drug court. I knew guys who would do tons of drugs & then fool the test with products like the whizinator. Or for the unsupervised ones, simpler methods like bringing a small water bottle with piss, or even had a buddy say he put piss in a condom, tied it off and taped it under his ballsack
>>35763566 oh yeah and other methods to fool the test are diluting your piss by drinking many gallons of water right before, and using vitamins & creatine to mask the fact its diluted. There's also lots of PEDs besides whichever steroids they test for.
>>35763873 >>35763880 I'm sure guys slip up at some point. The majority of professional sports players, fighters, and competitors are all on PEDs whether you like it or not. Next thing you're going to think is that WWE wrestling is real and that they are natty too.
Stop wasting your time trying to talk sense to these jealous fat losers. They see someone young, super successful and alpha as fuck and have to try and discredit him because its too painful to acknowledge he's killing it and doing something worthwhile in life while theyre spending hours a day on 4chan shitposting
>>35763945 Bee bee boo boo, this is precisely why Japan blows us fight sports out of the water. This is why many gracie bjj fighters and other brazillian and us fighters are going to Japan to fight.
It's a fight sport, the guys should be in their best shape to compete. This holding people back from peak performance is fucking retarded. If the fighters don't mind then let them fight. Spectators and politicians need to get out of other people's business. Unless your in the ring you have no fucking say faggot.
Maybe we should pull all of Tysons wins. After all he was juicing and a coke head.
>>35762969 Ufc is slowly going down the fucking tubes. They keep regulating it and desu it's taking the thunder away. It's gonna end being some fucking aunt bettys boy club where the top highly skilled in the art of being a pussy wins the competition.
It's a fucking dangerous man sport. Not some fucking drag show. Pull the politics out of this shit and let these fuckers go at it. Jesus christ
"His testosterone levels were to high, we better bring in the estrogen to make this more homosexual than fighting."
Really bud? I'm a bjj fighter so I doubt that. Good try tho faggot.
I'm just not an idiot. We've allowed testosterone suppliments the entire time and it hasn't been an issue. Now all of a sudden a bunch of mom's complained to 60 minutes that little Jimmie tried the potatoes juice and was an asshole to his parents so we better ban it.
Whatever I'll recover in days and you'll recover over the course of months. Your body will break down from high cortisol levels because you keep breaking it down and in the long run will harm your body more then help you.
The guys that go in the ring know they can get hurt to begin with. Preventing them from testosterone isn't going to prevent them from getting hurt. Nor should it, it's a fucking fight sport.
Top athletes can easily beat doping tests. They have access to peds the average person doesn't even know exists. Arod for example was busted during the biogenesis scandal for a drug that he would take right before a game and be out of his audibly the the time the game was over. The point is there are ways to beat the system and too athletes do it. Go see what George st peiere has to say about the matter
>>35765186 If you start allow roids and T then you're putting the sport in a terrible position
All of a sudden in order to compete at a professional level you have to take all of these artificial supplements to even have a chance at competing along with fucking up your body as steroids and T undeniably does
Getting hurt fighting is NOTHING compared to the effects steroid has on you or how once you stop taking T after extended use you'll never be able to reach the same T levels you naturally had before
But congrats on your blue belt from Bubba Jim's BJJ gym
>>35765358 but that's the thing, the more money you have to throw around, the better your results can be with less shit being fucked up
MMA fighters make dogshit. Half of them work full time jobs to support their families
if these were corporate backed literal gladiators, thunderdome two-men-enter-one-man-leaves type shit, I'd be all about jacking them up on every time of gear under the sun, but they're actual human beings, and they need to be able to get up the morning after getting their heads caved in, unfuck their shit, and be ready to do it again 3 months later
>>35765391 >so that means we should let them juice to the gills and be able to inflict 5x the damage
Did you see TRT Vitor? He fucking head kicked the current Champ into next week. He permanently mutalated Bisping and now the dude is going blind because of the detached retina. There has to be some sort of middle ground for recovery, but competing while on the juice is incredibly fucking dangerous.
>>35765474 Armstrong got away with it for as long as he did because LITERALLY EVERYONE in competitive cycling was on steroids. /fit/ likes to be retarded and say all pro sports require steroids but when it comes to cycling it's no fucking joke, they were ALL on something.
To call out one person in particular like Lance would have ruined the entire fucking sport completely.
Take some time to look into the UFC drug testing regimen and how rigerous it is. Go ahead.
>>35765494 Roided up fighters can take FAR more punishment and dish out way more strength in later rounds. If they're skilled enough to prevent you from submitting them and their massive test-chin takes everything you can dish out, your skill can only do so much
Like a third of Russian Olympic athletes have been cheating for the last decade. Like we believe any of the anti-doping agencies anymore. Maybe some of the agents, but the higher ups only let the truth out if they cannot contain it any longer.
It's stupid to ban performance enhancing drugs in sport, if some cunt can run 100m in 8.5secs who the fuck are you to stop him? Imagine how fasts bolt would be were he allowed to take all the gear hear wanted.
>>35763613 >Keep your filthy nose out of other people's medicine cabinets >pls let me cheat >pls I have a lot less problems with strongmen roiding in untested events, because they are not breaking any rules. this guy on the other hand is breaking rules.
The simple solution if people think taking testosterone equates to cheating. Which I don't personally. Just because you take testosterone or any steroid for that matter does not equate winning. We have seen guys not on steroids beat the piss out of guys on steroids. Is to either let the guys just say "I'm on" and the other guy say "okay" or "deny". Or have two completely separate tournaments. One that allows aND one for the children.
Steroids in fighting are not really worthwhile anyway. Sure you might have slight strength at vantage and faster healing abilities but the high amounts of red blood in the system taxes you. When grabbing for instance you grip gets tired a hell of alot faster. Also your cardio goes to shit on most of these drugs. Putting on too much mass can hinder your performance. It's not some wonder drug that automatically makes you win.
>>35766717 Not sure how I know nothing about the subject. I take steroids and I'm a fighter. Pretty sure I know exactly what I'm talking about. I know lots of guys that can kick my ass and don't take steroids. Not sure how anyone equates steroids with winning.
Maybe we should equate eating meat with winning and ban that too. How about we ban water. The strength gains water gives you is increadible. Without it the sport would be much safer. Think about the children. I don't want ny kid to have to drink water and eat meat slabs in order to compete.
>>35767661 hi biochemist checking in. i dunno shit about steroids. we learn about proteins and gene expression and shit relevant to careers in labs, pharma, etc. i'm like 1 out of 1028472 who actually lift.
>Thinking "testing" in professional, high-stakes sports has anything to do with anything on Earth other than money and the internal politics of the governing league.
Kek of the highest order. I'm not even necessarily anti-roids as such. It just makes sense to have professional fighters on gear, really no good reason not to. But you are absolutely delusional if you believe this "testing" is legit. There is way too much at stake for all parties involved (including league officials) for people to leave gains from tools like roids on the table, and to take chances on things like counting on opponents to be natty.
Making a big show of "testing" appeases the clueless normie demographic, and gives league officers a huge stick to threaten their fighters with behind the scenes if they ever feel the need to control their behavior. Nothing more. And even in a fantasy-land where we pretend that palms aren't being greased at all times, designer drugs will *always* be two to three steps ahead of the testing protocols anyway, and beating tests by being natty will be the exception, not the rule.
>>35764387 High level sports, where only winning matters, you gotta be naive not to think these top guys don't do anything to win. Do it wisely, designer drugs under supervision and it'll lower your chances to be caught.
Sage's father dealt steroids and cocaine, his father pretty much controls his career.
>>35765588 >why would Dana protect this kid of all people Because he's gonna be the new highest selling pay per view fighter of all time. He's just entering the weight class the McGregor is moving up to. Mcgregor is gonna be the champ, dominate the class, and then eventually get knocked off by this kid. I should charge for this prediction
>be me, massive alcohol 22 yo >dad works for big oil company >he is going to hook me up with a good job, yeah right whatever dad >get call, job interview that afternoon >either forgot or was sprung on me too drunk to remember >just drank like 8 colors lights for breakfast >massive tolerance from years of drinking >fuck it, go to interview >nail it, they offer me job on the spot >proceed directly to drug test >fuck fuck fuck >. 14% BAC >nice try faggot, no job
Dad has pretty much disowned me after that one. Can confirm that the tests do work for alcohol
>>35773107 >not saying that you had a hard night with some buddies before and you drank a lot >not offering to redo those tests regularly yeah you deserved that, not because you are an alcoholic, but because you are retarded
>>35762969 who says sports have to be natural? if mother fuckers want to take drugs to enhance shit, let em. it's not like they are having mother fucking cyborg ninja tactics implanted in their brains or shit. skill is still needed. fuck the police nigga.
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