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Is it possible to be fit and be dealing with proteinuria at the same time?

Doctors say i must limit my protein to no more than 1g per kg of bodyweight daily

Just end my life already
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Dialysis bro here. How far along are you?

I've been on dialysis for about a year now. My expectations for lifting are kind of low, because it saps my strenght, but I've may significant progress from day 1. Once your kidneys completely fail (which I hope yours never will) they encourage you to eat a high protien diet, so it's a little bittersweet.
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>>35760943
Actually im just self diagnosing at the moment. My urine is always foamy for about half a year already so i assume i have kidney disease and will fail any moment now
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Probably, as long as you get enough calories, nutrients, and sleep.

Ask your doc. He probably won't know off the top of his head, but can look it up for you.

But, most food, even carby stuff, has some protein in it. You'll need to cut back on high protein foods a little more to balance out eating more food in general.

Just keep it healthy. Whole wheat stuff, fruit, yams, rice. Beans might be a little high protein/calorie. Use olive and canola oil for non protein calories.
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>>35760967
Thats encouraging to hear. But how many months do i have left before im confined to a hospital for the rest of my life? Im gonna blow all my money and enjoy my life before it happens
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>>35760958
Fuck man. Don't do that. If you go to a nephrologist, they can likely slow the progression so you can put off kidney failure for years, maybe even decades. You DON'T want to have to do dialysis,bro. It sucks so bad. You either get to get stabbed by giant needles every other day and sit for 4 hours doing nothing, or (like me) you have to connect to a machine every night for 10 hours and have 2 liters of fluid in your abdomen all day.

See a kidney specialist, anon. You don't want to travel down the path I'm on.
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>>35760967
>whole wheat

This is terrible for chronic kidney disease. Anything high in phosphorous like grains, milk, colas etc can drastically increase kidney function loss. I personally went from 70% function to 30% function in 6 months because I didn't know this.
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>>35760996
Fuck this. I'm not giving you any more advice if this is your attitude. I was in your exact position 5 years ago, I can tell you everything you need to know about it, but if you're just gonna let yourself die, I'm not gonna bother. It's not a death sentence unless you want it to be.
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>>35761051
They can still eat whole grains, they just need to eat them in moderation/small portions according to how high their phos is (usually around 800-1000mg of PHOS daily, with some wiggle room depending on the individual).

Potassium will kill you though.
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>>35761024
Fck that sht fcking scared me i rather be put down with euthanasia than deal with that shit.


So you mean to say that we can not be healed? Just slow down progression? It means when i reach my forties i will just die?
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>>35760958
Foamy urine is the only symptom and this has caused you to self diagnose kidney failure?
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>>35761110
This depends on your kidney function level. I'm on a type of dialysis that elimonates potassium, but doesnt do shit for phosphorous. Hemodialysis is the opposite. But for a kidney disease patient that still has a percentage of their function, you want to limit both. Cut cheese and milk out if possible, only eat a serving of beans every few days, eat low potassium fruit, eat white bread instead of wheat, etc.
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>>35760843
Whats wrong with 1g to 1.5g per kg bodyweight? Do you actually believe the bodybuilder protein meme or are you juicing?
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>>35761084
But the other anon said that my life is choose between sticking big needles for fours hours or connect to a machine for 10 hours?

im losing hope man im just 23 and this is gonna happen to me already
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>>35761224
He has kidney disease.

If hes concerned about his health his protein intake should be extremely low (probably no more than 4oz meat every 2nd day, no shakes, etc)
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>>35761207
Well i searched on google and all of them tell me i probably have kidney disease. And its not as if i had foamy urine one time, its been going on for months
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>>35760943
not OP, how did you wreck your kidneys? roids? accident?asking bc I just have one kindey from birth.
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>>35761260
It could be anything bro.

Kidney disease is extremely unlikely at your age (in your 20s Im guessing).

Go to a doctor and get blood and urine tests, can pretty much guarantee you that you dont have kidney disease.
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>>35761182
You will never get back any kidney function you have lost. How much you lose from here out is up to you, your doctor, and your body. The better you follow a nephrologist's recommendations, the slower it will go.

Even complete kidney failure is not a death sentence. My kidneys have been functioning at 1% for over a year. I just do peritoneal dialysis every day as a treatment until I can get a transplant. They say I should get the transplant within the next 2 years. Yeah, it's a major setback in my life, but the doctors say after the transplant I will be good as new. I'm young and healthy other than the kidney failure, so I can expect to live a full life after tranplant.

But yeah, if you ignore it like a shithead, and just hope it goes away, you're digging yourself an early grave. If you see a doctor now and actually listen, then your kidneys may never fail completely. Knowing 4chan though, I'm sure this advice is falling on deaf ears, and you're looking for any way you can to end your life.
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>>35761288
You give me hope man but if its not kidney disease then why does every damn website tell me it is?
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>>35761225
Fucking grow up. I got kidney disease at 22, and I'm still living a full fucking life, even on dialysis. Modern medicine has no cure, but it has super effective treatments, and a transplant can mean never letting it affect you again. But you're not here asking for advice, are you? Just just want to bitch and winge and cry on a Cambodian casava farmer forum and rake in the pity.
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Doing my dialysis exchange right now. Ask me anything, faggots
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>>35761307
How did your kidneys fail, bro?
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>>35761403
Why are all your stuff in boxes?
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>>35761307
No man you definitely helped cause ive decided to have a urine test this weekend to check. I wont be getting any blood tests though i dont want them poking me with needles

I have a question for you, how did you get your kidney failure and whats your age?
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>>35761403
I'm gonna have to do dialysis at some point in my life (PKD) so I have a few.

>does it hurt
>do you feel sick
>are you eligible for pain medication such as morphine
>my dads armed turned to shit on dialysis because of the constant needling. Can you still lift?
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>>35761343
Because webmd. Now get to the doctor.
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>>35761416
I had a kidney infection when I was about 20. My urine turned brown for a few days. Went to the doctor and they refered me to a nephrologist. The nephrologist told me that the infection caused my immune system to build up a protien marker called IgA. This made my immune system think my kidneys were foreign, so it attacked them and created scar tissue, basically removing all function but water removal. I still piss, but it they dont remove toxins. I went overseas for a couple of years, thinking everything would be fine, but when I came back I felt super shitty, and that's when I found out that they were completely gone. I've been on dialysis since. Got on the tranplant list a year ago, and should have 2 years more to wait. It can't come soon enough.
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>>35761423
Two of those boxes are range gear I havent taken out to the car. The rest are my monthly dialysis supplies
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>>35761439
I outlined the failure here>>35761479

I'm 30 now. No other medical conditions, I lift 5 days a week. The dialysis solution itself is 550 calories every day, so before I was working out I put on a ton of weight. Trying to lose it now.
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>>35761403

Op here
1. Is it painful? Describe the pain
2. How old are you
3.how did u get kidney failure
4. Is there hope for me or should i just blow all my money and die once its over?
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>>35760958
Jesus man see a doctor. Free clinics exist for poor people like you.
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>>35761343
Probably an infection.

Less than .1% of people your age have kidney disease.
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>>35761457
I don't do the dialysis with needles and blood. I do the type with fluid and a tube going into my abdomen. I put fluid in and take it out throughout the day so essentially my whole abdomen is a fake kidney.

No, it doesnt hurt at all. Just a little time consuming. No need for pain meds. If you are young or relatively healthy, this type of dialysis is so much better, because it really doesnt affect my life. The only thing I miss is not being able to take a bath, just showers.
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>>35761374
No man im legitimately asking for advice cause im scared terrified frightened and afraid. I dont want it to happen to me.

How could you say u live a normal life when you go to hospital lots of times a week? Here in my country u cant do that its not that easy and it will consume all the time in your life
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>>35761523
Fuck yeah, there's hope. After transplant my life will go back to normal, the only difference is I will have to take a certain type of meds for the rest of my life. I'm 30, and the outlook is at least another 40 years of life, god willing. All the other questions I answered in prior posts. See a goddamn doctor, moron.
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>>35761534
Im not poor at all, we have a construction company and im upper middle class here in my country. Its just that im afraid of the confimation. The confirmation that my normal life is over
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>>35761590
I don't go to the hospital at all. I do all my treatments myself at home. I connect to a machine when I go to bed, then disconnect when I wake up. Everything else in my life is normal. I see a doctor once a month for bloodwork, but other than that, no needles, no blood, no pain, no discomfort.
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>>35761625
>The confirmation that my normal life is over
dramaqueen much?
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>>35761543
I dont think so man, look at the posters in this thread they are 22,23,30 so its definitely in my time to be hit with this disease
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>>35761238
Yeah obviously, but I dont see where the problem is. Like if all his gains would disappear over night.
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>>35761629
Where did you buy that machine and how can you say its not painful? Of course to connect to that machine you have to stick a needle in you body right?
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>>35761625
Shit man, I was scared when I first found out, but as long as you arent a faggot about it, things are pretty easy. The only thing smaking your life any shorter are your ignorance and your attitude.
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>>35761691
The 22 and 30 are me. Diagnosed at 22, living on dialysis now at 30.
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>>35761574
Is that the thing where you have a pouch attached to your stomach all the time? How the fuck will you be able to be aesthetic with that shit? Or should i just give up my dreams of looking good and become a fatty instead?
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>>35761722
My type of dialysis is called peritoneal dialysis. No blood or needles. Look it up. I use the tube that was surgically implanted into my abdomen to pump in a clear fluid and pump out the dirty fluid after a few hours. No pain whatsoever. The machine just does it automatically while I sleep. A distributor delivers all my supplies every month and services the machine when necessary. I'm sure they have the same thing in europe.

>yes I'm a fatass right now, mainly because the fluid has a ton of dextrose in it, and before I wasnt doing any exercise to keep the weight off.
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>>35761748
Nah, it connects and disconnects with the tube I showed. I wear a belt around my waist to hold it when I'm not connected. If you account for the calories in the treatment and don't live a sedentary lifestyle for 8 months like I did, you can easily maintain or lose weight. My lifts are a bit low, because one of side effects of kidney disease and dialysis is anemia and weakness, but I've made some good gains and lost nearly 30 lbs over the past 4 months.
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Alright guys i think thats it ive decided to see a doctor and see how it goes from there. Thank you to everyone who contributed to this thread ill update you guys again this weekend after my urine test
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>>35761691
No its less than .1%
Th OVERWHELMING majority of people who get it are over 65.

You have an infection, stopw orryng

http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/Pages/kidney-disease-statistics-united-states.aspx#3
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>>35762037
Everyone at my dialysis clinic and everyone at my transplant orientation was old as fuck. Doesn't mean it isn't possible for him to have it. I got it at 22. Started out with foamy urine just like his.
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>28
>Appointment with an oncologist tomorrow.

Am scared.
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>>35762138
Why?
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>>35762166
being sent to a cancer doctor has me worried.
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>>35762179
What kind of cancer are they suspecting you have?
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>>35762187
Don't know, have had an enlarged spleen for months. Leukemia or lymphoma would be the most likely if it is cancer.
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>>35762216
Fug bro :(
Hang in there. You can fight whatever it is. Just stay strong, k.
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I don't have kidney disease. How do I prevent it? Does high protein intake cause it? I'm scared.
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>>35762280
>Does high protein intake cause it? I'm scared.
No it doesn't. It's very unlikely that you'll get a kidney disease. Stop worrying.
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>>35762216
Have you had bloodwork done yet?
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>>35762376
Just enough to know i don't have an infection (the most common cause of an enlarged spleen).

First appointment with the oncologist/hematologist tomorrow.
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