idk who the fuck he is, nor do I really care. But he has the body of an anorexic teen boy. i mean i guess he's healthy compared to avreage (fat person) but he really needs to hit the weights and gain 20-30lbs of muscle. looks emaciated.
>>35734939 Are you fucking retarded? Not even mentioning the fact you somehow don't know who he is, you are bound to have gathered that he is a ufc fighter from the gloves... so why the he need to gain mass? So he can be slower? That's just as dumb as saying "Bruce Lee really should have hit the weights bro look how skinny he was"
>>35735046 My 125lb friend smashed the shit out of a 200 lb weightlifter in a 1v1. The weightlifter guy tried to take him to the ground, and my friend just choked him unconscious in less than 30 seconds from the start of the fight. Martial arts vs a civilian is like fighting with a deadly weapon vs hands. I don't think your a troll, I think you actually believe you could, I've just seen some ripped fuckers get KOd standing up from a head kick and they couldn't even remember their name when the cops come.
>>35735131 assuming it even happened and you are not simply spouting bullshit here are the problems with your reasoning: 1: was he really 125 lbs or are you rounding down? 2: was he really 200 lb or are you rounding up? 3: define "weightlifter" what were his stats at the time of the fight? 4:even if all of that was accurate and true, which i doubt it is, it is just an anedocte.
i believe you are lying or simply embellishing reality, either way i am sure i could rek the o connor guy in 9 out of 10 fights. the one uncertainty is due to luck.
>>35735145 6'2 skeleton, no one in my entire family on both sides who is male is under 6 foot. My friend is a manlet though, yes, but he can take most guys because he knows that everyone is focused on throwing punches and has no cardio, so their hearts are beating so fast and he just cares about cutting off blood to the brain and dropping someone on their head.
>>35735163 that is only a piece of the picture. >>35735172 emelianenko is not connor mcgregor. even if was 40kg heavier than him and lifted 400 kg i would not fight him. strength does not scale up linearly. fighting styles are also different. >>35735173 i agree with you.
as i said i have never done martial arts but i have done rugby and arm wrestling and other contact sports, there is point after which size becomes too much of a factor.
this connor guys is somply too small.
we are not debating a good fighter vs someone that weights 10kg more. we are talking 40 kg difference. it is too extreme for skill to play a factor. >>35735086 lol,you can tell connor is genuinely scared of the guy.
>>35735219 I won't keep posting in this thread either way, but when you say you could "rek" o connor in 9 out of 10 fights thats a hilarious joke/troll. My friend has been doing MMA,muay thai, kickbox,etc. since he was 13, hes 23 now and has traveled to austria for wrestling and hes done a ton of grecco roman. He's also an amazing street fighter which is why I was using him for the example. The 200lb guy was a gym rat guy who also wasn't a bad fighter. Easily could have whooped my ass without too much effort. I can't possibly know the guys lifting stats at the time, the example happened when we were in high school. All I have to say is, don't underestimate the small guys. Usually they are great grapplers and submitters.
You've never been in a fight that last longer than 2 minutes.
>I would have knocked him out by then
Once you finish your berserk flurry, you get winded, every part of your body gets heavy, you can't keep your arms up and your guard lowers. Your feet drag as you step now. You breath deep but you just can't get enough air in there. Your heart beats so hard you can feel it trying to escape your chest. Now your only focus is keeping the little shit from punching your face.
Cardio and technique are vitally important in a fight. Not knowing that is just being ignorant.
But good luck with the whole; proving your masculinity.
>>35735353 the problem with the way you post is that you assume we believe your story.
either you try to bring logical and or mathematical reasons for what you say or there is very little meaning.
should we just take you on your word?
i will try too: the father of a guy i went to school with was a bouncer, he did not train any kind of martial art, he just weightlifted, he routinely submitted tough guys thinking they were hot shit because they did 2 years of muay thai. (this is true btw)
telling stories and anedocted is an extremely infantile way to debate. you have to tackle the issue straight on not a sngle istance, which may very well be made up.
>>35735439 Fair enough, don't believe it then. I'm not trying to provide any evidence more than anecdotal. If this is a debate, you win. I can't prove you or whoever said that can't beat connor mcgregor 9/10 times in a fight. That much is true. I suppose the burden of proof always lies with me because for all I know, i'm talking to Jose Aldo right now.
>>35735511 Anything that comes out of your mouth is true. You are a 100% logical and scientific being who never uses a story to make a point. Stories are always 100% bullshit and I will prove it with science because anecdotal evidence and eye witness testimony is the worst form of evidence and can never be trusted.
Plenty. Most fights go to the ground. The YouTube knockout highlights reel would suggest otherwise so I can see why you would think that but if you've hung out in seedy places, bar fights, will more often than not go to the ground.
i provided a story, which is true, that directly contradicts yours. i did so only because i wanted to point out why debating using tales is stupid. the ones that tell the tale cannot be trusted to report the actual reality devoid of embellishment.
the burden of proof for a blank statement lies on you. my point is : making a blank statement such as: training trumps a difference in strenght and size regardless of the vastity of that difference is not true.
we could however argue numbers: how much does experience weight against pure force?
that would be more fruitful. for exemple: i think i would be mc gregor, what would happned if i fought someone in the 80kg category? i think i would lose, maybe even 75 but i do not know.
>>35735661 i have been in fights when i was young. i won all of them only because when i was young i was really heavy(fat mainly of course but also muscles) a bit like this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ouht2Gslfqo not relevant, i know i am not skilled as a fighter. but as i said i played contact sports, i know how the body reacts to simple physics. i would not go in berserk fury fighting a man 30 kg less than me, i would approach laughing and see how it goes. if it hurts me maybe i get a little pissed but its not like i am fighting for my life right?
also i have good cardio, why assume otherwise?
it seems to me like it is you guy that are trying to prove a point that skill is something magical that always trump sheer force. as i said this case it is too extreme to defend. maybe pick a fighter that is a little bit more intimidating.
Size matters in a fight no matter what anyone tells you. Trading blows with someone that has 20+ lbs on you is going to end badly if you don't get a quick KO. With that being said Connor could and would smash 99% of UNTRAINED larger fighter. Throw him in the cage with Jones or Overeem and watch a Silverback tear apart a chihuahua, completely different scenario. Can't believe I bit on this.
>>35735769 There's a lot of factors that determine the outcome of a fight yes, so It can't be proven for sure. It's just extremely probable that a professional fighter with years of experience would beat the brakes off of the DYELs that inhabit /fit/.
I agree with you, but for some reason people think that just because they can squat LMAO 3PLAET and are bigger that they can win in a fight.
Here's examples of more smaller, trained fighters beating bigger, less experienced fighters. I realize that it's in an MMA setting, but there's not much footage of trained fighters fighting in live environments. Also, I'm not saying that the smaller fighter wins everytime but saying you would crush them simply by grabbing them is idiotic.
>>35734631 No one on this board could beat McGregor in a fight. Some of the people saying they can are trolls, others simply don't understand fighting, all are incorrect. It truly does not matter how much you weigh when you get kicked in the head hard enough to bruise your brain.
>>35734631 >>35734631 >>35734631 >he doesnt realize mcgregor is an unstoppable force. The dudes the kanye west of mma, hes his own tier. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNPp7pyQ7k4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQw9o4iJRhs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S04Cr3m1Cps
conor is a cocky fucker but the fight was over 20 seconds in.
you seen a killer whale thrash a seal to death? that was it. the mountain had the death grip and could have ended him there. it was fucking over from that point if he wanted but this is a friendly internet spar.
I think that you have to believe you can take anyone on your best day, because otherwise what motivation have you got to defend yourself?
I'm no fighter, but I was jumped by a group of guys because I was fucking one of their exes. I bit a chunk out of one of their ears, he ran off, and I fought the other two on an equal footing because they were terrified I'd mark them. I still lost, but they left with black eyes and bloody noses and I walked away from it.
He'd waste me in a ring, but there is no way I'd LET him kick the shit out of me in a street fight. I'd walk away with a bit of him, and he'd remember my fucking name.
>>35745609 Smaller guys can suck mi dick. I said athletic dude, meaning someone who can move around and knows the theory from watching fights. Dodge the strikes keeping him at distance or go to the clinch and slam that motherfucker on the ground or fuck him up with some knees while holding his head.
>>35745704 Listen you fucking retard, till you start training boxing/mma you will be shit at fighting, complete fucking garbage. You're not gonna dodge shit without training, you'll likely turtle up and get the living shit pounded out of you
>>35745653 No one ever said that. You're corrupting what he said and basically calling him some weeb faggot who tries to do naruto moves. He never did. There's a reason these guys are fucking pros and not you.
>>35745848 there's a difference between not being some hothead fucktard and being some delusional pro manlet faggot, I know ANY UFC fighter, 90 pounds or 400 would fuck me up, why? Because they get paid, train ,and live for fucking fighting. Meanwhile half of /fit/ is neet/ living with parents/ going to college for cancer job and just lifts and BROWSES /fit/. You faggots do nothing to help your argument other than showing your own insecurities. 6'1 btw
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