When did you realise PUA was the perfect compliment to lifting, /fit?/

Just now as I read that post

* complement

Immediately after he took my girl when I started acting all defensive and insecure.

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>>35686063
This is now a Based God thread

12 cell phones and I look like Ac Slater

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>>35686879

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lee priest confirmed PUA?

I've been approaching lately and I've been getting rejected.

Approaching hardly works. The most I got out of it was overcoming my approach anxiety and their phone numbers. It never got passed that. If you want to meet women, then it's best to do it through social circles.

>>35686915

Nope, you just have to stop being a faggot that gives up.

>>35687799
Tired of getting rejected breh.

>>35686063
They're both things which are pursued by manchildren who were raised by a TV and thus are incapable of behaving as befits an adult male or any form of normal human social interaction?

>>35687809

How does it feel knowing that you will never get anywhere in life, giving up at every little hiccup?

>>35686915

That's actually a valid exercise that some of those guys preach, believe it or not. Approach, and *intentionally* say stupid shit that will get you rejected, just to dull yourself to it.

>>35686915
how many girls you approach a day?

Hitting on girls just comes naturally to some guys. PUA is basically just the study of that science for those for whom it doesn't.

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> Afraid I might......take yo girl....?

>>35686915

This is normal for PUA.

The actual success rate is fairly poor. Where it works is getting you to roll the dice often enough that sooner or later you're bound to hit on someone receptive to it.

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Holy shit, I can't believe this is actually a thing.

I think I can actually taste the autism.

If you can't get a woman interested in you without cold approaching them constantly and using "this one weird trick" then I feel bad for you desu senpai

>>35688678

Would you still be saying that even when a gang of freshly trained PUAs came and stole your girl from under your nose?

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>>35689022

> a gang of freshly trained PUAs

>>35689022

If that happens I'll tell you all about it bby.

>>35686063
>Mystery
jesus christ.
That shit was good for picking up drunk club sluts in the 90s.

having said that, there are ways to be more social and be better with women through reading and practice just like any other skill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY3rT2N1Ecs
Simple Pickup, Real Social Dynamics, Rational Male, and Puerarchy/Theredpill are all decent sites. torrent it and let it play while you are working on something else.

>>35689290

>theredpill is a decent site

you're a fucking retard

>>35689290
TRP is shit. Stuff works, but their philosophy is wrong. As a girl, you can literally apply the same shit to guys, and it works even better.

People are all the same desu senpai.

>>35689022
>implications
is this place r9k?
PUAs are bullshit, they pretend to get all the girls so you buy their scammy book that just says "just be yourself"
nigga those bald motherfuckers could have all the game in the world and still would not score on anything

>>35689367
> People are all the same
Lol no they aren't

>>35689341
>>35689367
LONDON

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>>35686915
it
is
all
about
the
face

This entire thread belongs on reddit

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PUAs are faggot gigafedoras

>pic related took my girl
>he took her shopping to help pick outfits to please his faggot top boyfriend

>>35689411

/trp/ is just a bunch of neoreactionary neckbeards who suck at life despite being given every advantage who spend their days jacking off to each other's rape fantasies and complaining about ethics in video game journalism.

>>35689425
and by face, you mean body language and subtle cues.
just think how awkward those guys must act!
not even the mighty trenface can save them.

>>35687827
fuck

>>35687827
nice projection

>>35689462
shut up bich. if a girl sees a guy with a good face acting awkward and fidgety, theyll just think he's cute.

>>35689458
>despite being given every advantage

What advantage?

>>35689521

Being a white male from a relatively well off family.

>>35686915
PUA is like sales. Nothing more than a numbers game. You're going to have people that simply won't buy, no matter what you say.

You just have to find the right people. You'll learn what an easy sell looks like eventually.

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>>35689458
dont forget homophobic, xenophobic, nazi fascist Trump supporters who kill babies and own guns!

>>35689528
rich people tend to be SJWs.
there are no working class SJWs, they are mostly trust fund twinks.

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>>35689341
>>35689367
>>35689458

enjoy your suffering fucking feminists

I believe you're hating on something you know nothing about. But the longer you deny the truth, the more butthurt you will be

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>>35689546

>afraid of the SJW boogeyman

Grow up you fucking child

>>35689022
if a bunch of skinny neckbeards saying cringeworthy canned lines and treating social interaction like it's fucking World of Warcraft steal my girl I'll let you know m80

>>35689498
that's what you like to think, because changing your face is out of your control (other than following a proper diet, good hygene, roiding up, and surgery).
in reality, it's all checks and balances, a godlike face would make it easier (duh), but you're simplifying too much, and losing relevant nuance here.
God-face wins on tinder, but a fitizen shouldn't have any trouble there either. In real life, not so much, social cues matter a lot more.
The first social cue you're missing out on: a good face can be enough for some sluts. Find a girl focused on physical appearance and maybe a bit on the trashy side, and a good face, being tall, abs, will be enough.

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>>35689564
afraid? no kek
The majority of the world right now is SJW+feminists. I'd say approx 70% of earths population is on that team. And they're destroying society. Give it 15-20 years, you'll see. There's no stopping it, there are too many beta males following the feminist tune, and it's only growing because of the influence it already has in laws etc.

I'm just lifting and keeping my eyes open.
Makes me harder to kill.

15-20 years son

>>35689546
>SJW strawman
fuck off reddit

>>35689564
>afraid of the cishet white male patriarchy
Grow up you fucking child
[spoiler] and lose weight

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>>35689586
>strawman
>someone literally complaining about antifeminists and their white male privilege
Male privilege is knowing what words mean apparently

>>35689584

You're retarded m8

>>35689610
you're in denial kuk

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The vast majority of "antifeminists" are virgins or near virgins.

>>35689564
>>35689586
>sjw doesn't exist
>what is feminism
I bet you believe the HAES crowd actually works a day job.
breh

>>35689584

Boo hoo, I can't spout racist shit on the internet without people knowing

white man's burden am i right?

>>35689630
did you reply to the wrong post?
Fucking nigger

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>>35689620
because feminists are known for being hot

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so much autism and tinfoil hatting on /fit/ tonight

>>35689620
have you even seen what feminism has become?

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>>35689630
you must be Austrailian
>AGREE WITH OUR POSTMODERN BULLSHIT OR WELL GET YOU FIRED SHITLORD WE ARENT AUTHORITARIAN. IF YOU DONT WANT YOUR DAUGHTERS RAPED BY MUSLIMS, WE'LL HAVE YOU ARRESTED FOR BEING A NAZI
how can you believe this bullshit?

feminism has always been fat ugly cunts with penis envy. They fail as women so they try to act like men. They always fail. That's why after decades of bowing to them they still think society is out to get women.

they're just losers. that's all.

>>35689620
if this isnt bait, i hate feminists because they repeat lies over and over and over until people believe their retarded ideology and it works
>wage gap
>rape culture
>campus sexual assault crisis
none of these are supported by empirical evidence but because they keep putting it all over the media, most people believe them to be real issues

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>>35689647
they haven't m8, it's quite obvious denial.
But it's fine, we don't need to unplug them.
Until they want to be unplugged themselves at least

>>35689647

Yes, because I actually go outside and interact with people in real life rather than experiencing the world through reddit. I know a bunch of feminist women, mostly through an anti sexual assault campaign a girl that I was banging was a big part of on campus. The majority of them were very fun to hang out with and very intelligent.

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>>35689661

Go outside child.

>>35689668

>we don't need to unplug them

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>>35689669

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>>35689680
oh are we playing the hat game?
>I'm a male feminist
>I will defend m'lady's honor from shitlords on the internet

>>35689661
man you're a fucking autist

Internet feminists are fucking stupid but the moment you take your eyes off the internet and letting /pol/ shove its collective cock down your mouth, your life will definitely improve

>>35689290
>>35688678
>>35686915
>>35686063


I don't get it. Why do you guys read this shit? Seriously? It messes up your natural ability. I've never had problems with women, and I've never read that shit either. When you read that garbage that someone is spewing, that could be all lies, you're basically doing as they do instead of doing as you do...

Seriously, be yourself and the women will come. Don't go buying that shit or reading any of that rationalmale shit. I honestly think it ruins bros. You're so insecure and down on yourself you look to anyone who can give you the answers (pua,rationalmale,simplepickup,etc) and all of that is BULLSHIT. Picking up women should be natural because it's literally in your genes to do so. Your grandfather, and his father, and his and his and his got laid without reading a bunch of shit spewed aimed at neckbeards and nerds. So stop being a neckbeard and nerd and get up, go out, and get a fucking woman.

I swear to go it's not that hard. Be yourself.

>>35689688

MRA's are literally the evolved form of the people in your picture.

>>35689698
You're implying that /fit/ isn't 90% bitter losers who took up lifting when they started college because the stacy's in high school weren't attracted to them because they were ugly, unkempt and socially inept

>>35686063

PUA led me to lifting.

>still look like shit
>still have an unaesthetic body from all the strength routine shit

At least I don't care about girls anymore.

>>35689695
do you not read the news? Have you not seen what has been happening on Universities across the US and UK?
feminists dont give a shit about women or they would be speaking out against Cologne and Rotherham and various other sex gangs/mass rapes currently happening instead of bitching about Whey ads with bikinis on them and bouncing asses in video games.
They are an anti-western cult. that's why they hate white men so much.
they are just losers. that's the only way to put it.

>>35689703
I dont disagree
feminists are women who want to act like men
MRAs are men who want to act like women

Gender roles are natural, fuck ideology.

>>35689581
so your not agreeing with me but you are actaully are agreesing with me? make up your mind.

idk if your a girl who's trying to downplay that a good face is really all that matters to women, EVERYTHING else comes seconds. Everything. Or a guy who is just pretty much a faggot.

>>35689584
>The majority of the world right now is SJW+feminists. I'd say approx 70% of earths population is on that team
m8 most of the world doesn't have the fucking internet and are more concerned about having food and shelter.

>>35686063


When will you realize PUA is a con for beta males. You're either attractive or you're not. Talking like a faggot won't get you anywhere.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx-zYNS15P4

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>>35689698
>be yourself and the women will come
>stop being a neckbeard and nerd

>>35689698
Not everyone is good at talking to women like you are. You see it from that perspective, but look at it from the perspective of people who suck with women. Naturally, they'd want to get better at it, right? Advice like "be yourself" doesn't work because there's no steps involves. You have a destination without a map. PUA is a step towards that destination. It encourages you to take control of your life, and make changes. It helps you to overcome anxiety in social situations. Eventually you score big, then fuck it up because you were acting like a sick cunt, but never actually became one. Then you move on to the next steps.

pol and REEE9k out in force ITT


go back to your containment zones you FA losers

>>35689729
not her, but women respond to tingles you give them. There are shortcuts to tingles:
>being tall
>having a 10/10 face
>being rich
>having a good body
For everyone else, you can give her tingles by being bold and funny and confident and all that shit.

the face can be a shortcut, but you can still compete.

>>35689719
>were ugly, unkempt and socially inept
was actually 2 of the 3 faggot, one of them you cant chancge no matter how much facial cleanser gay shit you use.

>>35689738
LONDON
kik?

>>35689754

Then have sex with ugly women

>>35686915

Where do you live? I think it's situational. In Italy the social cirlce game works best and girls are gigantic bitches. In North America it's easy to approach and date girls you just met.

>>35689698

In my case that's like telling someone to solve differential equations who has never seen a derivative or an integral before. If you don't have any knowledge or experience and have been conditioned all your life to do the opposite it's not "in your genes", you just don't know what to do. The concept of asking a girl out on a date where you have to spend money and resources and pretend you are interested in her was foreign to me (and still kind of is desu - why would I want to hang out with some stupid bitch I just want to put my dick in?).

>Your grandfather, and his father, and his and his and his got laid without reading a bunch of shit spewed aimed at neckbeards and nerds.

They lived in different times bro.

>>35689581
>abs

This always triggers me. How are you supposed to get abs if /fit/ never talks about training abs, and you all endorse SS+GOMAD, Texas, etc.?

>>35689528
Can non-whites 'make it' then Anon?

>>35689751
>>being rich
>>having a good body
are you new here? becuase we've gone over this tired and worn out meme time and time again. girls dont get a fucking 'tingle' because of a nice car or big house. they think "oh i am going to milk the shit out of this ugly faggot" and bam, leech for sex mode initiated.

the good body meme is also redundant, if it wasn't, this thread wouldn't exist and majority of /fit/ wouldn't be as sad and lonley as we are. so, please, normie, do us a favor and leave (save yourself). or better yet, just kill yourself

>>35689775

Yes?

>>35689771

Train your core? It's not hard, don't be a spastic.

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Oh my fuck, this thread lmaooo

>>35689725
I don't disagree with you. Internet feminists on tumblr are fucking losers. But you know who else is a fucking loser? Retards that believe that this shit is 'taking over the world' just like every retarded conspiratard that buys into whatever bullshit Alex Jones is peddling just because it fits into their bigoted/fearful narrative

Go outside. This shit does not matter. It makes the news because idiots on both sides will eat it the fuck up. "The news" is a very good way to make your life shit because they only give a shit about scaremongering and pandering.

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>>35689778

>uses normie unironically

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>>35689763
good idea actually. im mostly attracted to big thick asses rather than cute faces.

>>35689564
>reveals himself as a beta orbiter who probably does icf5x5

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>>35689803
if only it was that easy for women. it always comes back to the face tho

>>35689725
There are loads of febivieys soeakibg out against cologne you tard. Just because you and /pol/ don't like to believe they exist- doesn't mean it ain't true.

I goby know about Rotherham but I imagine it's the same.

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>mfw dad was a chad
>mfw he constantly cheated on mom
>mfw I am him only much less successful financially

>>35689729
I agree that your face matters, but have to disagree on the degree.
On Tinder, it matters a lot, you're judging people by a pic or two, but a shirtless abs pic would have a comparable success.
In real life, it still matters, but reading and leaving the right signals, at least in my experience, is more important, because it doesn't just help you hit on girls scattershot and get better results, but helps you understand the dynamics at hand, and getting shit wrong, or giving the wrong message, IMX is what fucks guys up.

>>35689771
Do SS, learn how to count calories and macros, then do a longish cut. It's actually easy, if you are just a bit organized.

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>>35689698
>as if personality and trait profiling isn't a thing
>as if there's not a huge amount of information on reading body language that even police authorities implement

>>35689832
>only much less successful financially
eh, your dad lived during the bull market.
an invest-and-forget fund indexed to the market would have made bank in those days, it's not really a fair comparison.

>>35689781
Just asking. Don't have too many non-whites up here in Iceland.

>>35689831
* feminists speaking out

Typo.

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Rather take the iron pill

>>35689834
How do I learn social cues then Anon?

>>35689862

By socializing

>>35689834
>On Tinder, it matters a lot, you're judging people by a pic or two, but a shirtless abs pic would have a comparable success.
bull. a guy with a god face can get upward 300 matches ina week. a faggot with abs can get possibly 30 within that week, from some fucking fatties too btw.

>but reading and leaving the right signals, at least in my experience, is more important, because it doesn't just help you hit on girls scattershot and get better results, but helps you understand the dynamics at hand, and getting shit wrong, or giving the wrong message, IMX is what fucks guys up.

im nt exactly sure wht the fuck u are talking about but it sounds like u know u have a good face but u lack confidence so ur trying to convince me that your face didnt really help u in the end. and to that, i say shut the fuck because if u have a good face, u can say probbly anything as long as it isnt far out there, and get laid. ur prbbly ugly too, u faggot. kill yourself.

>>35689862
G O O U T S I D E

>>35689862
Starting Socialite. It's all about the drive to be hip.

>>35687827
got me fuck

>>35689847
>>35689862
Sleight of Mouth by Dilts

>>35689736
>Not everyone is good at talking to women like you are

There's nothing to be good at bro! Seriously, just go talk to them. Don't overthink, just do what comes naturally.

>>35689766
>They lived in different times bro.

Sorry man, but that's a big fucking pussyfied copout instead of taking personal responsibility. Times change but people are still the same people that were before them. Everyone is exactly the same, we just have different venues of communication. Really, this lifetimes is the EASIEST to find and get a woman because of all the internet and shit. You can literally post a pic of yourself shirtless on tinder and have 10 matches, and be fucking by the end of the week. You can meet chicks on facebook through fucking mutual friends. OKC,POF...the list goes fucking forever. The internet and our connection to it makes it so easy to connect with women it's unreal.

I have a buddy who is all into that whole pua and "trying to run game" thing. I keep telling him to stop reading and getting into it because it'll just ruin him but he won't listen. He tries to hard to "run game" on chicks instead of just getting them and hasn't gotten laid in the longest time because of it. I do my best to help, but he won't listen. He has the crutch of sosuave and pua because he thinks if he does what they are saying right, it'll land him a chick. I keep telling him leave that bullshit alone and just be himself, but he won't listen. I don't know what to do man.

>>35689051
People make fun of "peacocking" but look at the bald guy (Style)'s options.

He's short as shit, he's balding like crazy, he's a nerd.

So he shaves his head, gets a tan, grows a goatee and yes, he's PURPOSEFULLY wearing gaudy flashy clothing.

Now these serves two purposes: gives girls who might want to talk to him a brain dead icebreaker, so every girl in the club interested in him that he might never know about, he has those checked.

Also you have to realize he's *gasp* a legitimately cool and interesting guy, it's just that nobody in a club looks past your outward appearence, so he makes it something funny, gets their guard down, and talks to them. From there it's just the cool nerd inside talking to the (probably insecure) pretty girl. Make fun of them if you want, they have had more success with women than you or I ever will.

The numbers don't lie. Feel free to play sour grapes all you want.

>>35689917
There you go again with useless advice lol. I'm way past that point, don't worry about me. I've learned how to talk to women. It started with PUA, eventually I stopped caring as much and now I'm just good at making friends with anyone. But it takes skills just like everything else.

>>35689886
10/10

>>35689736
Honestly this post pisses me off. I didn't spend the first 26 years of my life as a virgin, unsuccessful with women, to have you guys turn on me as a "normie" because I'm happy now and successful.

YOU CAN DO IT TOO.

Your father, his father, and his father, and every male in your bloodline without a single exception has raised children. Chances are you will, too.

There are people in this world that would have KILLED for your chance at life. People with gross handicaps, legitimate disfigurements. Tell the guy with half a face that "I'm ugly, girls don't like me because of my face."

You just make excuses.

Make it or don't, it's up to you. But it can be done.

>>35689878
I am handsome and won't deny it, but I'm taking in account the experiences of my friends too (that's quite a varied group, from academics to actors).
Even those that consider themselves ugly motherfuckers, usually just aren't working their good sides and minimizing their bad ones, or are trying to impress the wrong girl in the wrong way (btw, bitch please, it's realpolitiks here, fat girls don't count).
Having a good face makes it a lot easier, because it counts AND you don't have to work for it. Everything else, from working out to finding the right way to get the spotlight on you, to the way you dress and the girls you've picked, takes effort, and you're trying to minimize the effect that effort has, to rationalize not bothering about it.
Tough luck, man. A good face isn't manna from heaven, social recognition goes further.

>>35686193
While he probably meant to use that, you could make a case for compliment

For instance, I could use either dickwad or asshole for you and neither would be grammatically or technically incorrect :^)

>>35689603
She is digusted by what he says but wants to fuck his brains out at the same time. Anybody saw vídeos of that guy? Is awesome

>>35689917
>There's nothing to be good at bro! Seriously, just go talk to them
You strike me as one of those guys who tells people with depression to just get over it. Because if I had just done what came naturally I'd still be sitting at home in front of my pc every weekend.

I read a bit of that PUA stuff and at least for the stuff that wasn't garbage, it seems to mostly aim at exactly what you're talking about. If you think about it yourself and don't just follow blindly what some random dude tells you it might open up new possibilities or ways of thinking for you.

>>35689959

> I'm taking in account the experiences of my friends too (that's quite a varied group, from academics to actors).

This is the height of delusion.

You are a high social capital person in a high social capital circle of people

You don't want to admit you just won the genetic lottery as it might mean you're warm fuzzies will leave you, so you conjure up some silliness about everyone being able to do the same shit you do.

People vary in height, this is genetic.
Weight, this is genetic (sorry /fit/ but it's true.)
Intelligence, this is genetic.

But you won't accept that social skills are innate? That attractiveness is innate?

Look, social skills are something we all practice every single day, every one of us. It's integral to social status, which is essentially what 99.9 percent of us aim for in life. From this practise, a clear divison between people occurs. What's so hard to understand, if we had people do sprints or maths tests we wouldn't' be surprised if there were some winners and some losers?

>>35690127
I think you're missing my point, which is much simpler.
It all started with the face, not with genetics taken as a single entity (then, I'd have to say that intelligence and mental health, which are strongly genetic, trump everything, as they touch your social skills, finances, behaviour, physical aspect, all your person really), that I don't consider as important as a number of other factors, and since it's a lot harder to work on, almost impossibly so compared to just hard as fuck, than most of those factors too it's often used as a battlecry for quitters.

>>35690195

Oh okay, I see now. I apologise I'm just ready to REEE reading this thread.

Can you tell me what it's like to be a genetic lottery winner? Like a story from your life, and how pimping it is? Consider this an excuse to brag.

>>35689786
>Train your core?

How?

>>35689834
>le abs made in kitchen meme

If you don't train your core you'll have the same result as if you run and starve yourself without lifting. You'll be skinny.

>>35690234
I think I mentioned SS somewhere.
Between squats, deads, press, and power cleans, not to mention the optional direct abs work that does very little anyway, you'll have abs.
If you want more, add in front squats.

>>35688132
5-7

>>35689917
>We're more connected than ever!!!1

Bro do you actually believe that bullshit? Do you honestly believe the cock carousel society we live in now is the same as the one our grandparents lived in where decent, demure women were dying to get married before they hit 25 or they'd be too old for it and they didn't just see you as a free meal while they browse Tinder? Past success through past generations means nothing in the present.

>>35686063

I bought into PUA bullshit when I was 17 and I've never forgiven myself.

It's bullshit. Just get out and talk to people.

>>35690258

> train abs with deads, sqauts
> direct ab does very little

I think we've reached peak /fit/ special snowflake delusion

If you want abs train abs yo. direct exercies are better than indirect ones.

>>35690258
>Between squats, deads, press, and power cleans, not to mention the optional direct abs work that does very little anyway, you'll have abs.

How long have you been lifting? 1.5 months?

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>>35689603
That cunt is supposed to be Gaston? She's clearly disgusted because some DYEL is posing as a man who's roughly the size of a barge. I bet he don't even eat five dozen eggs a day.

>>35689733

Cringe video

Can't even get a drunk chick to like him

>>35689698
>I swear to go it's not that hard. Be yourself.

If you were next to me I'd literally stomp your face until you swallowed your teeth.

>>35689733
the Fuck is this shit?

>>35690203
It could be better. I didn't win it all (that would have been awesome tho), didn't have much support from my family, and wasn't used to working hard at anything (now we know we should praise kids for hard work, it would have made quite a difference, I was reprimanded for hard work since talent was supposed to be enough).
The main difference is that while logistics, specifically finances and transportation, were still life-changing, I could still get girls when I was crashing on some friend's couch (but they'll leave for better prospects, fast), and eventually found a way to support myself.

The friends that didn't leave are now a big part of my social network, and I'm still with the one girl that didn't leave, even tho she's not as hot as some of the others. I guess once you can choose, and aren't just waiting for a girl to choose you (it's a strange mindset, but pretty common), hotness isn't everything.

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>>35686063
Mystery is a retarded faggot though and people should not aspire to be him

Good PUAs are
>Julien Blanc
>RSDTyler
>Neil Strauss

Those are the only good ones I know about. However, remember that PUA is fucking dangerous. It might sound ridiculous, but you have to be mentally strong to be able to learn about PUA, otherwise it will fuck your head up

>>35689051
Americans never cease to amaze me with their constant desire to humiliate themselves.

>>35689722
We're all going to make it, brehs.

>>35689584
This isn't even close to being true.
The most populous continents on earth don't even know what feminism is, let alone 3rd wave feminism and other sjw bullshit.

Quit spouting bullshit feelings as if its fact, because that's an sjw tactic

>go out an just be yourself

for people who are terrible with women and have been throughout their entire lives, what you're telling them is to continue being the same. it should not be difficult why "just be yourself" is taken as an insult.

>>35690871
difficult to see*

>>35689771
Cut+leg raises.
Fit talks about abs all the time. If you were here before NYE, you would know that

>>35689919
>you can get the girl by being the guy in the club that everyone makes fun of!
Yeah, because everyone wants to hook up with their weird uncle who is trapped in the 70s.
He could get a pity fuck at best, and not from anyone attractive

>>35686063
How do you guys get numbers.post routine?
How much do you squat?

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>>35690916

>>35690871
no, you fucking retard.

You have to be yourself as in, talk about the things you like and have fun as you like, but HAVE CONFIDENCE. You need confidence in what you are. Just drop the fucking baby whiner show and have fun.

How come the PUA community is composed almost entirely of Whites, Indians and Asians? How come Latinos and Blacks don't need PUA?

>>35690724
This is just as retarded advice as mystery.

>go to the bar, tell the girl you had cottage cheese for lunch
>she asks why does that matter
>because its coming from me!

>>35686063
I've never had a problem with women because I'm reasonably handsome and interesting. PUA seems a little weird and tryhard but I guess if you're using that shit then you need to try hard, but success is success. I'm just glad I don't need that shit.

>>35690970
That's not bad advice though
Mystery gave alot of good advice but he's still a retarded faggot that only seeked validation from picking up grills
Hell, he even tried to kill himself

>>35686063

First of all, you mean "complement", not "compliment".

Second, the PUA broscience offers some good insights, but 90% of it is utter autism.

>>35689669
You're an idiot, or blinded by the pussy. I too have banged a feminist who does social justice shit. She's hot, and a good lay, but she is so dumb when it comes to issues. When she talks about it she brick walls whenever I ask a hard question. I'm not even being a big dick when it comes out, I just ask her questions and point out inconsistencies in her politics, and it always stumps her, because the ideology is literally evil.

>>35689731
Most of the world does have the Internet. You're objectively wrong.

>>35686063
posted a torrent on /t/ for some PUA stuff that gets you started.

On a diffrent note lifting, loving and learning are kind of the 3 L's of my life so yea Pick Up can be pretty awesome

>>35689990
im interested but lazy, got a link?

I don't like the old school PUA where they teach you lines and routines and shit, they never really sticked to me, but I like the RSD or Simple Pickup stuff where they just say whatever they feel like it, I don't know if it works better but it's definitely much more fun. I've had a natural friend who was not really good looking but fucking girls right and left and he didn't know anything about any pua stuff, he just went up to girls and be fun and social, that's the best game imo.

>>35690890
>Fit talks about abs all the time.

/fit/ mostly says shit like this >>35690258

>>35691516

What about "shit tests"? I guess you just crush them with humor?

>>356909371

dumbass being yourself means being what you currently are without any shit added. betas walking around with confidence isnt them being themselves.

expecting neckbeards who cant read social cues to just have fun and be confident because you told them to isnt going to fucking happen because they literally dont know how and have zero positive experiences to take reference from. good pickup focuses on teaching people how to calibrate in situations and not sperg out with practice. "be yourself" is terrible awful fucking advice and is only repeated by people who never had issues being social and just assume it comes easy and naturally for everyone else.

>>35691643
meant for
>>35690937

>>35691558
yes you do

>>35691516
Yeah but that's not really anything new.
Basically all PUA does is it pretends to be this system, the system it's self is bullshit but it just gives guys who have no confidence to have some confidence and actually talk to women.

The success rate of PUA style shit is exceedingly low, but if you approach enough women and say pretty much anything, eventually youll get lucky.

>>35689778
>a shortcut
>just have one thing on the list and you can act like a sperg
there's a difference

>>35689947
Lol woah, yep. That's exactly what I said. It can be done, if you want it bad enough. The means to that end is pretty much of no concern to you. You're pretty angry over something.

>>35687827
Sadly this. I myself am guilty of that

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>>35689022
>a gang of freshly trained PUAs

>>35689917
>lol just be urself xD
if that would work none of us would have ended up on 4chan in the first place

moron

>>35689637
you still did not rebute his point by bashing the other side of barricade. Even if they all are -1/10 tumblriwhales it doesnt make MRAutists any less neckbeardy

>>35690937
>You have to be yourself as in, talk about the things you like and have fun as you like, but HAVE CONFIDENCE

yeah, girls will totally be all over you if you tell them about the latest optimisation that you used to speed up your custom linux distro by approximately 2.4% - but WITH CONFIDENCE :^)

>>35693416
>his point

>lol u r virgin nerd xD
>point
kek
why people even reply to this kind of shitposting is beyond me

>>35693456
Try finding a girl with an interest in linux then.

If you were a weeb who loved anime and cosplaying I'd tell you to find a girl who likes anime and cosplaying too.

But your gf doesn't have to have the same hobbies as you. Sometimes it's better that you don't. If they're gonna bash your hobbies they aren't worth dating.

"Being yourself" means not pretending to be something you aren't. Don't pretend that you like rock climbing because you think girls will be interested in it. Like or dislike rock climbing because you enjoy it or don't enjoy it.

"Fake it 'till you make it" is not a good strategy in dating.

>>35693456
Actually yes. But it helps to have other hobbies as well. Of course you cannot get every girl. People in general come in milion and one flavors so you won´t get along with every single one. thats completely OK. This is the reason why people usually create relationships within social circles - they interests overlap. PUAs and other kind want to sell their shitbooks so they have to monetize idea of being uberalpha who can have all the chicks. Just like Fat acceptance or HAES try to cash out on selling sweet lies. Its not about girls being all over you. That is meme from the movies and tv. Girls are shy and need to be approached.

>>35693545
>Try finding a girl with an interest in linux then

>you want money? just dig a hole in your back yard and try finding some gold :^)

>>35693545
This so much

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>recently found out I'm actually handsome
>6'5'' tall but not muscular, just average skinny body
>when out drinking girls almost always approach me
>have literally no game at all
>scare away those who approach me lol
>whyaretheywalkingaway.jpeg

So I read "The Game", thinking back to all different situations I've been in. It all makes sense now. Of course I won't walk around peacocked and ugly, but the "social value" system he's talking about is really gold. Like if a girl sees you with another girl it makes her want you more. Yes, girls are fucked up.

See the video if you don't want to read the entire book, and try to apply it to how you behave and your personality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ssPJTt4xh8

>>35693545
>>35693592

>a bunch of hardcore internet nerds whose personality is as attractive to women as a synagogue is to muslims
>lol just be yourself and everything will magically turn out fine :^)

>>35693574
It really helps if you're in uni. Join clubs in the things you're interested in and you'll meet like-minded people.

Odds are you'll find some girls there. I'm not even in comp sci and I know two cute introverted girls that are into programming and linux. And my uni isn't even known for its comp sci program.

>>35693609
If I recommended any book, I'd tell you to read Models by Mark Manson. It's "Just Be Yourself: the guide" and the key is honesty.

>>35693648
>Join clubs in the things you're interested in and you'll meet like-minded people.

nigger have you ever been to any nerd club
you'll find about as many girls there as on a battlefield in the syrian desert

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Threadly reminder that PUA is juvenile babby shit, and its practitioners only think it's good because they're completely ignorant philistines who seriously believe that they have a monopoly on social dynamics.

Learning how to get what you want out of people by reading PUA material is like clipping your workout routines out of the most recent Men's Health magazine. It technically gets you better results than just doing nothing like a chump, but any person who actually takes learning the broader subject of persuasion seriously will always be operating on an entirely different level. While you're circle-jerking about "sarge reports" they'll beat you out for the job you want, get the broad circle of friends you wish you had, and then in the end take the bitch you want practically as an afterthought.

>>35693641
Actually yes. lol this is like preaching calories in calories out to HAES. You´ve given up before even trying. This is why you repulse women. They don´t want whining pussy

>>35693726
>you repulse women
>but just keep being yourself and dont try to be something you aren't, that will surely help! :^)

>>35693786
>All my vices are my personality and cannot be changed. Its in muh genetics I cannot lose weig... ehm cannot stop whining :^)
Do you have tumblr account by any chance?

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Reminder that Simple Pickup (and most PUAs) are commercial snake-oil salesman.
They literally have stuff like "The ultimate secret to confidence" with a link to a 37$ subscription in their descriptions.
They make a living out of making you feel insecure. Don't fall for it.

>>35693902
nigger you're the one deriding those who work on themselves and try overcoming their flaws
you're the one telling people to not change their ways and 'just be urself, works evrytime xD'

you're a literal social gains goblin

>>35693966
Simple pickup is goat though, of course it's a business so they are trying to make money

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>>35693985
Quote me on that sweetheart, would you be so kind? Specifically highlight where I recomend not improving? :)))

Look I tried to help you. But I think you will be happier in eeerm... better place. >>>/r9k/
This board is specificaly designed for YOU and likeminded people! It caters to YOUR very special needs! Yay friends! You sure are very special and deserve very special safespace :^)
I hope you get lucky in your future endavours in that wonderful place free of ambition. Please don´t come back!

>>35694074
This is basic psychology.
They get money for making you feel insecure.
They don't make you feel better.
They don't want to improve you.
The videos are structured in a way that makes the viewer feel like they have a problem, to which they have the solution. This is marketing 101.
It's like a doctor shooting you in the leg so he can fix you. And the worst: you are grateful for them shooting you in the leg.

>>35689698
Just be yourself isn't redeemable advice when you're where some of these lads are. What really is the best is a good male mentor that is comfortable approaching and closing, but PUA/TRP is probably a workable alternative for those really struggling for decent advice on what works.

>>35694217
Medic here can confirm. 22LR is waifu caliber for them financial gains. But seriously this. They are jewing you

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>>35686063
PUA is bullshit. They openly admit they're in it for the money they get from insecure men.

That said, I did see one of them on a podcast, and he brought up a really fucking good point.

What we think of as physical beauty is not actually rare. It's quite common. It can be bought and sold. Exercise, nutrition, clothes, makeup, cosmetic surgery, with enough time and money, almost anyone can become physically attractive.

With that in mind, it really IS what's on the inside that counts, given how malleable the outside has become in this day and age.

>>35689719
T H I S
H
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>>35689719
I'm a bitter loser who took up lifting because my first and only gf was incredibly emotionally abusive and cheating on me.

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>poor confidence
>stutter a lot
>have difficulty hearing people speak
>shy
>kv
>say FUCK IT and mass approach for a week
>6-10 approaches a day
>campus has stray piles of spaghetti lying around and trails of sauce throughout hallways
>one of my favorite jackets is ruined

I got flat out rejected over 10 times, 1 number (she never responded to texts after she remembered who i was), and ended up even buying lunch for some of these sluts for nothing. I ended up crying for the first time in over 8 years by the end of the week and I had to change the path I walk to class out of shame and embarrassment. GUYS HELP PLEASE HOW THE FUCK DO YOU DO THIS

>>35694821
become more attractive

>>35694853
define attractive, please, please i must know

is it clothes?? what do i wear?

>>35693416
you're right, MRAs are neckbeards
antifeminists arent just MRAs.
neckbeards and legbeards are all gross.

>>35693966
>>35694217
Project GO stuff is up on the pirate bay
so is RSD

>>35694907
>define attractive

dont be manlet
have nice face
be confident
have social skills

judjung from your greentext your confidence is nonexistant and your social skills are abysmal. enjoy being unattractive and lonely forever.

>>35694821
rule of thumb is if conversation is unpleasant for one party then its for both parties involved. Try to approach when it doesnt seem rigid/ unnatural. I would be creeped out too if someone came out of the blue to me

>>35694821
desu you'll have to keep doing this until you become immune to the fear of rejection, only then will your social gainz arrise

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>>35694821
Just relax and take it easy, try going out to small pub/bars and start chatting to people. Just don't chat shit.

>>35695075
noted ill try harder to focus on their facial movements and emotions
>>35695080
oh god this was the hardest thing ive ever done and im going to have to experience the crushing failure again and again. Is the reward really worth it?
>>35695117
okay, ill try going to one. Should i lower my standards and just find an ugly cunt, just for the experience of taking a girl home?

>>35695355
Up to you really, all gotta start somewhere.

>>35695355
looks like you need to read up on some basics in conversation. Trust me I sucked ass in conversation before. I interupted people, chose wierd topics, did´nt care what they were tellling me. I once creeped out a girl so much she had to go to another traincar and then my friend told it to my ex and they made fun of me for it. yay fun times. But back to the point read How to win friends and Influence people by Dale Carnegie for them social gains. For relationship gains read Mark mansons´ Models. Approaching is not inherently bad, it definitely isnt something you should stress about. It shows when you feel incomfortable in that situation. Mark Manson explains the theory behind keeping things natural but you have to get feel for it yourself. Good Luck man, you have the fire in you. Keep on keeping on

>>35689051
>>35690750
>>35689620

These images and comments made my evening. Thanks anons.

ITT: The reasons for the rise in males having sexual and/or romantic encounters with other men.

It's so much easier.

>>35693609
bruh are you me
heres to us making it

>>35695720
are you that guy from yesterday?
doing this for a couple of years lol?

>>35695739
>tfw you're not here in Norway to be the perfect wingman n-no homo

Maybe one day our paths will cross, and I would look across the tables and I'd see you there, with a wife and maybe a couple of kids. You wouldn't say anything to me, nor me to you. But we'd both know that you'd made it, that you were happy. I never wanted you to come back to /fit/. I always knew there was nothing here for you, except pain and tragedy. And I wanted something more for you than that. I still do.

>>35695775

I don't know what you're talking about bro, sorry. It looks like I'm not the only who seems to have cracked the mystery behind homosexuality.

>>35686879
Hoes on my dick cuz I look like Jesus.

Niggas getting mad cuz I dress like Jesus Christ.

I'm a little fucked up, so bare with me here.

Consider yourself to be a key, created from a sum of parts. Your social skills, your interests, your looks, personality, work ethic, morals, everything. All the things you can change and all the things you can't. All these different things make up what is you. And for this purpose that you is out for some romantic reason. Now, you want to talk to or fuck or date some girl, so you need to apply yourself to open a social or romantic "lock" of sorts. Now, being rejected in any form degrades your key, makes it's use painful. So, you ask, "How do I make my key better? What can I do to make my key work for any lock I want?" PUA's rejection exersises see to make using one's key painless through numbness, which I think is only half right. To me, that stems from some acceptance of rejection, which while correct to some healthy degree, still isn't enough. Because it's believing your key, for better or worse, will eventually work based on numb numbers. This doesn't teach one to love one's key, or to "just be yourself".

When people say just being yourself is sufficient, that stems from implicitly knowing that one's "key" is perfectly sufficient to open any number of locks, regardless of what specific form the key is. The ones who mean it know rejection's part of the game, put they also know that's not the fault of their key, just that some locks aren't going to be opened by some specific keys. It can seem counter-intuitive when we are based in self-improvement through constant change, but there is an extreme importance in the simple concept of loving and accepting yourself. If you love and accept yourself, or key, as you are, what fear is there in knowing some random girl who's brain you have no control over, just isn't interested in you? It's not an excuse not to improve things you can could or should change, but to -know- that you, as you are, are perfectly fine. Loveable, in fact.

That's my take on it, at least.

>>35691558

That's precisely how. The trap is to try to justfy yourself or qualify.

>>35693648
> Models by Mark Manson

Good for lifestyle building and awareness, but rants too much about the other methods being "dishonest".

For me, lifestyle is good to attract girls, PUA theory helps to be aware of social/shit test traps.

>>35696514

What's good for PUA theory? What's a good PUA guide?

>>35696514
you dont need to play mindgames with shit tests if you have a spine

>>35696894
See video linked here.
>>35693609
Just basic how you should act around women, helped me a lot.

>>35690719

What jawb do you have now?

Can you post a picture of yourself?

What do you see as the main difference between yourself and someone who can't get women (break it down, not just like 'charisma' but what is the behavioral difference as far as you can see?)

>>35693545

this attitude yo

STOP POST-HOC RATIONALISING YOUR LUCK

NOT MANY GIRLS LIKE LINUX
NOT EVERYONE HAS A GOOD PERSONALITY

I'm an actual autist, and when I take mdma, I feel like some african kid who's walked into McDonalds for the first time. People have an obviously variable ability to be read and be interested in other people, which is what makes up the majority of social skills