I have been wondering for the longest why is it that lets see you lift starting from 18-20 you always look small but a dude who is around 25-30 who lifted for less time than you look bigger is it because there is a second stage of purberty around the time?
Does this mean that no matter how much i lift i will never escape dyel mode? Until i hit my 25's ...
Td ; Lr no matter how much i lift my age is relative to my gains until i hit 25 i will never escape dyel mode
But arent your gains related to your body size/age like the fathers forearm no matter how much i train my forearms it would never get that size unless i am that age
no its mostly because older people are more serious about it and do their research, homework on everything
when you are 18,19,20 you follow bro science and what your friends doing in the gym and maybe dont even do it cause you are intrinsically motivated but just because you think its cool or whatever
older guys who tend to go from 0 usually have more income and are more serious about everything + have true motivation to make it
ofc thats just a generalization and not true for everyone but im sure theres some trend and truth to it
but the same theory could apply to a 15 year old lifting the gains of a 15 year old would be way different from a 25 year old if they lifted and had pretty much the same diet
isnt there the golden rule that u cannot get more than 1lbs - 1.5 lbs of muscle a week?
I feel like there is a corraletion between body age and size / definition
>isnt there the golden rule that u cannot get more than 1lbs - 1.5 lbs of muscle a week?
no its not a golden rule its simple physics/anatomy
well 15 is damn young .. not even an adult and fully developed in growth etc .. im sure he will have less gains than a fully developed 25 year old
i thought we are talking adults here 20 vs 30 ish type of stuff
a beginner gains like 5-7 kg LEAN BODY MASS aka MUSCLES in his first year lifting (incl noob gains)
cut that numberi n half for the 2nd year and cut it in half again for the 3rd year
building muscle is a time intensive process thats why people use steroids in their 2nd, 3rd year
i'm 19 but my brother started lifting at 24 and he looks wayy better then i ever did and he never counted calories and and eats anything while i do and he looks better and we do the same program the same amount of reps
Puberty is like free sterons. The problem is that s lot of young people don't eat or train right if they've never had a good coach. Does you local high school football team look DYEL? No, they're fucking jacked because they have loads of free test, train hard and eat big. You will never recover from training as well as you did at 17.
that would mean 11.75kg over 3 years.
so starting to lift now at 58kg 182cm would mean it would take 3 years to reach 69.75kg, which I'm thinking I'll reach in one year and based on progress I've seen in CBTs that seems more realistic.
Even if you are 19-20, you still don't know shit and are just as bad as the underage 15 year olds posting
I didn't start wising up about life until I was 22+. The reason you look small is because you are young and stupid and don't know what you're doing. Probably drinking protein shakes still and reading bodybuilding.com for workout splits.
People in western nations tend to get bigger over time regardless of lifting weights
9 times outta 10, you will be heavier at 30 than 20
>when you are 18,19,20 you follow bro science and what your friends doing in the gym and maybe dont even do it cause you are intrinsically motivated but just because you think its cool or whatever
True for me. I tried making gains from ages 17-27 without much success because I believed the mens' fitness bullshit about working out 6x/week on curlbro routines. This was largely before /fit/ existed, but after I tried less volume and sticking with barbell compounds I finally got gains.
>older guys who tend to go from 0 usually have more income and are more serious about everything + have true motivation to make it
Yep. My motivation was having a son, I didn't want him to suffer through 10 years of no gains bullshit like I did. He'll work out correctly right from the start.
>no matter how much i lift my age is relative to my gains until i hit 25 i will never escape dyel mode
No OP, I am an oldfag (35) who made some youthful friends (21 and 23) in the gym. When we met I lifted more than them, but they overtook me pretty quickly. I wish so much that /fit/ was around when I was 19.
>35-year old not seeing the results he'd like - "It must be because I'm old."
Actually I'm perfectly happy with my results, I just wish they could have come when I was 20 instead of 35.