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I can't rack an empty bar. With weights, I have trouble at the bottom of a squat.
Should I stretch my wrists with (in racking position) or without the bar (against the wall etc.)? Should I also stretch my triceps?
It's $250 per month to train with him familia.
Kanama is apparently a massive dick [also is Scarlem]
Varbanov is apparently pretty damn good
I've heard UofT has really great programming
Several guys from work just left Fortis for Synnergy
holy shit, kanama was 170(150 for me cause student )
I really enjoyed training w/ hani, i liked his training style, wish i could go back
yup ive heard good stuff about varbanov
UofT ive heard can b a shitshow sometimes
Fortis is dece good
if youre in toronto are you planing on going to winterlift @ kanama?
Different dude here, my buddy used to train at Kanama I've been there. You enjoyed the style? My buddy complained about the lack of strength focus and I've met Hani and he's a bit of an arrogant asshole.
This is what I've heard from several people at my gym actually. The only exception was someone's dad who came in whose daughter trained there.
I wanted to, but a friend is competing in Markham for his first [spoiler]powerliftng[/spoiler] meet.
As much as I'd love to, friends have to take priority.
My friend is going for the 59 on the Sunday. What category are you going for?
yeah i liked the training style, especially as a beginner with more pushing the heavier weights on good days (which i have none of rn cause i dont rly trust myself w/ choosing weights)
and oh yeah i completely agree with that, but i kinda just ignored that aspect.
nice nice, gl to ur friend
Felt like smashed asshole today, still did 105/125 from the floor. cleaned 130 from blocks, back squat (160/2)3. Decent I guess. Literally didn't feel warmed up and ready to lift until an hour and a half into lifting.
its amazing how much technique matters
I was stuck snatching 50kg for weeks, fixed one small thing I did wrong in the second pull and suddenly I could snatch 65kg. Obviously I still do many things wrong that dont allow me to reach my full potential but I'll get there
because it is, it looks like jon north's wife's technique but way faster
she gets shits on because she's slow but yarkin is fast so is ok
vyacheslav doesn't hit the bar out though, and you're all talking like he can change that hip action but the whole reason he is the only russian lifter who is doing it is probably because he can't, it looks very ingrained in him
>doesn't hit the bar out though
hitting the bar out is very common for most beginners, there was a time when yarkin did this look up his old videos
>the whole reason
>it looks very ingrained in him
you know them really well huh, you trained him or something
Literally noone talking like he can change it read the fucking posts, everyone agreed its a bit odd but its fine. Hop off his dick, talking like you know him lmao. Some cringey fucks here.
he's lightining brehs.
one day we may tho, 30kg heavier than him and with some roidz.
however, mi hang snatch is getting closer and closer to my clean, since i feel like my main problem is the pull under and early extension, should i just stick to hang cleans until i can hang clean a weight really close to my max clean?
I'm trying to make a program that allows for squatting, pressing, and pulling 3 days a week, on top of snatch and clean & jerks, with a 1:2 press to pull ratio, and 2:1 front to back squat. I want to base this off of the material I've read in Juggernaut Training, with a hypertrophy phase of 2 months, 2 months for development of strengths, and 3-4 weeks of peaking or working to a daily max, with exercises becoming more and more specific to WL as time goes on. Can anyone help me program a full routine or at least some basic stuff with flexible set/rep scheme? Lifts are 70/85. I front squat 120, back squat 150, deadlift 160, push press 80, OHP 50kg, snatch and clean pull 120, muscle snatch 50, clean 90.
you trying to tell me it isn't ingrained? i said it looks so not it definitely is
and him in his younger days still doesn't hit the bar like norths gf, and neither are beginners even his younger days
they imply that clearly it's you who needs to read the posts
for how long am i supposed to use a cookie cutter program also?
i've already read practical programming and i can easily program an intermediate routine for a powerlifter, any reads i can do to learn how to program oly lifts?
I have always wondered, why RDL with a snatch grip over a regular grip?
Does it work the upper back/grip harder? I may do them that way sometime then.
I always thought that deep squats combined with all the (albeit submaximal) pulls from the floor are enough for balanced quads/hamstrings, since afaik weightlifters don't really do that much dedicated hamstring work.
Should I RDL once a week then maybe to keep a good hamstring/quad balance? I'm a noob to weightlifting, am currently do full back squats 5x5 3x a week, as well as snatch/clean+jerk 3x a week as well.
having a wider grip allows you to bend over more and shifts the weight forward putting more of the effort into the glutes/lower back and hamstrings
i do find that it works the grip harder
high bar up right squats don't really use the hamstrings that much, you can see it in oly lifters physiques their quads are far bigger than their hamstrings
it is good to do them it does help imbalances and hamstrings do play a role in the lifts (albeit not a huge one) the exercise also works the lower back very well so why not, if you find they tire you or something just take them out closer to competition
>tfw failed EVERY single rep today, didn't make one lift
>tfw coach said to "just let it be, rest until friday"
>not that big
>5'9 230 in competition, 250 in training
squat frequency census here
What to do when you make reverse progress?
Some things changed in my technique and now I'm missing weights at 85% and I'm getting v frustrated
I felt like things got alot better before I was getting under quicker etc but now I'm bar banging and stuff
Is it normal to take a step back in progress sometimes? I've only been properly wl for 6 months. I feel quite upset about it desu
I honestly thought I'd find it easier. 6months in and not even be snatch, today couldn't even hit 80% well, changed my technique somehow for the worse
Wtf literally makes me want to punch myself in the face. Atleast I pr'd c&j today
I'm ten months in and snatching 70 consistently at 85bw. Managed to get a solid hang snatch triple at 60 this week.
I just do it because I enjoy it, I'm never going to be a 'good' lifter.
I'm massively frustrated more cos 2 weeks ago I finally felt my tekkers had clicked and I was catching deeper, more stable etc, and over the last 2 weeks its been v shakey and shit, I think I've gone to far in trying to get under quick and I'm missing extension and letting the bar get away from me
Do any of you bros suffer from shoulder impingement?
My left shoulder is impinged due to shitty form in my first few lifting years. Now everything I do overhead causes pain. I try to stretch and roll the front of my shoulder with a tennisball but it never fully heals.
hlep me /owg/ i cant stop jumping forward when i clean.
even when i do these light dip cleans i still fucking move forward.
do i need to lean back a bit and push entirely with my heel?
where did plg go? i'll ask you guys instead. do you think this is true?
he says you should train a bodypart, then the next day train it again lighter but higher volume, and do that twice a week for each bodypart
I'm a fairly noobish lifter (6months) and my technique sucks/is inconsistent. I've been doing my first proper program but I've begun to struggle to fit it in after work/recover well as there's quite alot to it. I rush and my technique is suffering.
Would doing catalysts 'simple' routine be a good idea for a few weeks? 3 exercises, I would focus not on %s but on making lifts in the classics so autoregulated. I can focus on the pulls and squats for strength. It might even leave me time for accessories for my back which I need ideally.
Does this sound foolish? Is that a decent simple program for someone with limited time at the moment?
I really just think the issue for you is probably technique and intensity.
I mean, there are days where I miss like full snatch 60kg non stop, and then turn around and power 90kg 4 times in a row.
Posting this in both the OWG and PLG threads because you guys actually help people. I am having a hard time progressing on squats. I hit them 3x5, 2x a week in a PPLPPLx routine (coolcicada). Could anybody help me with my form? I think that this is one of my biggest issues in not seeing the progression. Here is a video link to my most recent squatting session.
Also, stats: 6'7' 230 lbs
Maxlifts : 175/245/275/335
>boasting on 4chan
For all I know maybe you don't even lift let alone snatch 100kg
I realise my progress is slow af but you sound autistic as fuck with that 'oh I did it in x amount of time whh can't you' mentality.
This is something that I've had issues with. I played soccer for 15 years before weightlifting, which caused an imbalance on my dominant leg. I've been doing single les presses and any isolation with single legs but on squats that issue still lingers.
Eh, maybe. I've seen four day schemes, but even then the volume per day was fucking brutal. It's difficult enough as is. If time is a huge constraint it's probably not the best option for you.
My issue is leg strength. I only have a 135kg back squat, so I couldn't snatch 100 even with the best technique in the world. Not even Olympic level lifters can snatch 80% of their BS.
I'm well aware of my limitations and I've tried to fix them: 4k+ cal plus a day and Smolov, every combination of volume and intensity on the squat, still got weak legs.
smolov is meme.
just do texas method or some linear progression like a normal human being and your squat will increase.
fuck, i did novice progression til 180kg squat m8, you need no complicated shit
I get nowhere with linear progression.
I've had all my non-classics lifts to an advanced standard before apart from my squat. Fucking ridiculous that I can DL 190 but can't even squat 140.
I'm a little concerned about that desu, but my current program that's had varying volume and intensity at different percentages has become hard to complete... Not in difficulty as in incorrect percentages so much, more just fitting it all in. I have limit training time due to work
I think really I could do with a bit of autoregulation. I've let myself grind for the numbers in my program rather than solid lifts with nice technique. I only see my coach once a week so a program with a flexible approach ( it says you can use the classic or variation to address weaknesses) as and when might be good
Sorry for long posts just feeling a little lost rn everything was going well and I feel like I need to go back to basics
Hah, you sound exactly like me, I have all the same problems.
Autoregulating is working for me, I just make sure I'm making progress from cycle to cycle rather than week to week. Also progress isn't always weight on the bar, if your form improves but the weight stays the same it's still progress.
That's how I felt 2 weeks ago, form felt much better. However I think I've overcorrected catchingnhigh and now I'm cutting my extension and flicking the bar away from me rather than driving with the legs
I think I will solve it fairly quickly, but doing it without the pressure of prescribed %s and reps would make me feel better, I get ocd over it haha. Does that sound like a decent approach for a few weeks atleast?
Interesting. Ideally my coach would regulate all our programs depending on what needs work, but he just doesn't have time with work etc
I think if I do this simple program and build off it, it bridges that gao between strict programmed % based work and just turning up fucking around
I think I'll have a rigid plan for pulls, presses and squats. Classics I'll warm up and see what feels like it needs work eg pause above knee or hang work depending on what's breaking down
Hopefully this will breed some technical consistency so I can attack the weights and add kilos.
One more thing, in plg somebody mentioned that my arch seems to be collapsing during the squat. I normally wear custom orthotics in my everyday shoes but in the past fit told me to take them out because they may be compressible.
What do you guys think about orthotics in lifting shoes?
A bit of compression from a sole isnt going to be a huge concern if the shoes are stable I wouldn't have thought... But arches collapsing sounds quite bad. So I'd use them. But, this is a question for a proper qualified physio or doctor.
>tfw got into weightlifting over winter break
>tfw back at uni
>tfw no bumper plates
>tfw have to lift in shit free uni gym
I really wanted to use the varsity gym, they have platforms and proper kilo plates. The fucking Jews at the athletic center won't let non-athletes use their weight room though. This sucks guys, I really wanted to switch to WL full time
are you guys me
I am the quadlet who posted before on this topic
my squat has not increased in 4 weeks its still at 135, while my deadlift went up to 200 from 190 without training it(I deadlift once every 3 weeks)
what am I doing wrong
I go to hybrid, hyde park and sarnia
yeah same with my snatches
mate, can you actually drop lower? i noticed that my lifts didnt improve until i got a decent degree of flexiblity.
i can touch the floor with my palm with straight legs and that made a huuge difference in bot speed and precision.
its a mental/flexibility thing, my right hip is really tight compared to my left and stretching it makes it feel like its going to dislocate desu.
workin on it tho, anyone have an opinion on romwod? just overpriced/overhyped BS?
snatch double formcheck
also did a big pr on jerk today, i tried some complexes from greg everett books and did
100 105 110 115(which is a 5kg pr) with little to no rest between each one.
i'm getting mad flexiblity gainz by just stretching everyday for at leat 5 minutes each muscle and some pnf stretch with bands.
the only thing i do beside static stretches are hamstring band stretch from moveskill and that barbell thingy for dorsiflexion.
i mean, in 2 month i want from barely touching knee to almost palm to floor.
also pause squats are a god gift for mobility work
Is it normal to have difficulty doing a hook grip on snatch at first? It's the the pain of it I'm still using light weight. But I struggle a lot to even do the hook grip with the wide snatch grip. Anything I can do to be able to get my hands in the position? Thumbs just slip as soon as I lift the bar of the ground
i got used to it with time, at first it hurts like hell, now i can even deadlift with it and i dont really mind.
sometimes my thumb tendons get inflamed tho, and i have to stop hookgripping for a week or two, be careful and take rest if something hurts bad
Hurdler’s Stretch up to 5 minutes x side
pidgeon pose (it's very hard to do a full one, progress gradually)
some active calf stretches
wall side split and horse stance
i also do 2/3 min of ankle work with a barbell on my knee, usually 2 or 3 set of 1 minute with 50/60 kg, but work up to it, i dont really want to see you with a teared tendon.
i also do this before and after i lift 4/5 times a week
just keep in mind this stretch has to feel awkward and somewhat painful, to a reasonable degree obv.
paused front squats also helped quite a lot with mobility.
i'm also getting used to reast in a squat position and is working great.
for upper body i just do 3/4 minutes of passive hang every day , shoulder dislocations and behind the neck presses with lightweight
every passive stretch is between 3 and 5 minutes, sometimes multiple times a day if i'm not too lazy.
always warm up with leg swings.
trying to get in awkward pose during everyday activities is really useful and pretty fucking fun sometimes, if you dont mind looking like a retard
Its been about a month of actual time and my clean isn't even that good and doesn't even feel comfortable and smooth. How can I get rid of this feeling?
Im practising pretty often with a coach, he's making me stay with 30kg until my form is absolutely perfect and its killing me. He knows I'm capable of more because I can just throw 30kg around easily.
We did partials for a while so my positions are good but I keep having mental pauses now so I can't do it all smooth in one motion. Any ideas?
I'll have to try this. I know the uni became much more strict about shit since they hired actual athletic trainers, so I don't know how that will fly with them. But I'm gonna ask
Have you tried this yourself?
I'm currently just doing stretches from GMB(GoldMedalBodies). I've gone from not touching toes to palms on floor cold after a few weeks and a comfortable squat position.
I'd really like to reach splits.
never finished it and never got full splits, but got pretty close to them. it gets pretty hgard tho, you wont be able to do much other training besides it, at least not too heavy
Do you know of any other ones that dont require weight? I'd plan on doing this at home and I only have about 15kg I can use in a backpack.
Would I be pretty close by the time I reached 15kg?
for this is full like back leg up and everything?
>wall side split
is that where you lay on your back w/ ass against wall and legs out?
surprisingly my FS bottom Pos. isnt half bad
>dont ever pay for any guru bullshit,
romwod is not guru bullshit, you're paying for a set routine and instruction on how long to stretch. it forces you to actually stretch properly i like it, i'm gonna cancel after my month is up though since you pretty much learn all the poses by that point and how long to hold each and all that shit
$14 something a month isn't bad, they have 7 day free trial too see for yourself if you like it
>be in gym
>6 power racks/platforms
>guy wants to bench
>just using the platform to do snatches
>give the rack to the guy to bench
>no idea where the fuck to do snatches now
i dunno if the dumbell area has enough overhead
i dont want to hurt anyone or get in trouble
a lot of people get fixated on this after some beginner progression and maybe winning competitions in the US & canada
I did this for 5 years, even went down the roid route for the last little while, then finally quit when reality hit me. this is not a career. nobody cares about it. you're never going to earn a cent from it. nor are you ever going to be champion. it doesnt give you better aesthetics or athletic abilities either. it can only be purely for your own entertainment. as long as you understand that, thats fine. but if you're thinking of anything else, stop now.
I've seen many kids and young adults around me who grew up with this shit, made it a lifestyle with encouragement from their stupid parents, friends, and coaches. only to get injured, lose all interest, or get busted from roids and casted away from everyone in the end.
countless number of hours and insane amount of effort over years, only to get nothing or get scarred in the end
People are exposed to top athletes performances with the internet and tend to develop insane expectations about their own capabilities, so it's easy to forget how different the conditions of pros are from normal people. For anyone who isn't in the sport since young age and has top tier genetics, oly lifting is bound to be just entertainment. this is perfectly fine and healthy, but if you have average genetics and a low chance to get very far in the sport, it's going to be hard to build a stable income and a career around it. Sure if you plan to be a PT or a coach in the sport, that's different. but if you're sacrificing a lot of things that will grant you a living for it, and set priorities with it first, then i understand and side with this anon
pretty much. at my first ever comp i snatched 70kg and c&j 90kg as a lanky 69kg lifter. the last time i ever maxed out was 125/160 a 85kg. i was loaded on gear too, training 6 times a week. obviously i wasn't built for it. i knew people who were meant for it too but inevitably failed. there was a kid in toronto who just got banned for roids last summer and he had numbers like 140 / 180 as an underweight 85kg. was clearly going to be national champ if he kept it up. he deleted his facebook and everything. so depressing.
thats why i'm telling people to not take it seriously, just treat it as a past time.
I really don't see why people get like this.
I've played a couple of sports all my life, and now at 28 years old, the one that I was most "serious" about I play socially. Sports is recreation
it is over here. weightlifters form a very small community. when all your friends, family, and coaches looks up at you and you're lying the whole time about being drug free then getting busted, it seriously effects your life.
what kind of coaches believes his athlete is drug free
do you know the guy personally, you're just projecting how you feel about this onto him, you don't know maybe he's training harder than ever
i bet his coach had something to do with it too since his coach was once a foreign top level lifter back in the days
he can't possibly still be training since i know other people from his gym too and never heard a word about him after he got banned. its a shame. even though i was competing against him, i still loved to see him lift. dude had amazing technique and explosiveness. he looked lanky too. had tons of room for development even though he was already hitting big numbers.
yes, but they're 10lb bumpers with like 40lbs loaded on the bar, and they're the only ones my gym has. do not want to break them.
I didn't, i just waited like an autust for the guy to be done with the rack using my phone leaning against a wall, then u brought my bar back over and attempted my 85lb snatch (most i've ever done before) and failed since i had lost my groove from waiting like 5 or 10 minutes. i just went forward and hit the bar/plates into the rack and some women stared at me and i laughed but they looged deebly gonzerned. i damn well could have gotten it, but i had been doing snatches for an hour pretty much so i did clean + jerk, worked up to 105lbs for a single and then i had to leave since i was being picked up, i didn't even get a chance to squat, fuck.
i'll be post the video of my clean + jerk for advice later.
i really need more time to train.. or i have to be faster, i dunno. i guess it"s better to spend the majority of my time doing snatch and clean + jerk than a bunch of accesories
wtf why did it took him like 5 years to add 10kg on his snatch, i looked him up on youtube there's a video of him hitting 103 in 2010 as 69 then 5 years later he hits the record at 113
because i lift with some of them, yesterday a new strong guy came in and just asked the coach how to take drugs properly and they just had a semi long conversation
i was kinda surprised, i've only been going here for a few months
this is a national level athlete pretty new though but he won AO's last year with close totals to most medalists at nationals
his squat numbers are all similar/close to guys training at the otc
he was natural up until the time span between this past years provincial/national comp. at which point he managed to put like 5kg on his cj in two months
wouldnt be surprised by either
also you following royce rabanal, outa no where he's starting to hit Ontario record numbers/ hitting 5,10kg PRs outa nowhere
no i quit 2 years ago. i only look at the people i added before on my facebook once in a while, so ive never heard of him until now. props to royce for having decent technique. its wouldn't come as a surprise to me if he was on roids.
then again, it wouldn't be surprising to see people who can barely snatch their bodyweights on roids. you can be on roids and still make no progress, or just useless progress (increasing too much bodyweight for little strength) just like your ex coach, and me in the past. keep training and you'll eventually hit a plateau where roids can't even save you. the key to progress is to do consistent, pushing your limits - yet safe workouts. see clarence0.
is my back squat bottom position shit?
i feel pretty good sitting in it but when i look at the video it looks like im leaning way too far forward
pls help i wanna be good at this sport
vid(dot) me (slash) UEFK
how do I fix jump forward in the 2nd pull? i was doing it pretty badly on snatches but I made it less dramatic by pulling the bar back more once it comes up past the knee
how come i recover my jerks so retardedly? any tips on splitting deeper? just do lots and lots of explosive splits?
should i put my dominant leg (right) forward or back? i intuitively out my right forward, but i feel as if maybe putting my right back will let me lunge deeper more explosively (faster). pls respond
really? what do I do?
Lock my shoulders back and up harder?
look at my pic, fucking absolutely shit tier jerk technique. i just did a push press with a slight split them pressed it out. kek, those were some of my lighter ones.
here's my snatch: I guess my shit lock OH is a major issue here too?
vid (dot) me (slash) u6cT
Just moved to a new army post. Only gym they have with barbells and platforms is their recently opened crossfit gym. Wasn't expecting much when I got there, but holy shit it's pretty awesome. Barbells, bumper plates, platforms, power racks everywhere. It's also free for soldiers so I don't have to pay that absurd crossfit membership.
But holy fuck dude... Crossfit = shit form isn't just a meme. One day there, and it's a bunch of DYELs trying to push themselves to the max on every technical lift. None of them even knew how to squat properly and they were trying to snatch.
honestly i fall into that category. you cant get coaches around here which sucks
that said pls form check my front squatos
had a shit session today lads. even missing a 60 for triple.
Occassionally when I perform overhead squats, I feel my upper body sort of shake at the bottom. I can generally hold and get out of the hole, but I am clearly unstable.
I want to hop on 70s big transition, but I do not want to skip out on practicing snatches, and I do not feel I should snatch until I fix my OHS.
I know it is tough without a video, but might it be a lack of lockout in the upper back? Any good cue to think about when attempting to fix this?
Anyone think cj is still natty?
> hitting world class numbers in youth group despite being 2 years younger
> adds 20 kilos to lifts in a span of 3 months
> big shoulders and traps
> we have beast in America too they just go to football. American footballers power clean 400 lbs bro.
>They also weigh 400 lbs
this desu >>35689441
after coach got popped he basically told me, at the world class >90% of men are going to be using, and the highest you should expect to go as a natural is competetive at the national (canada) level
was replying to a guy saying there were people at his crossfit doing oly lifts with shit form m8 and going too heavy
what are you getting at?
is it my feet going forward?
What are decent numbers to impress the Normies at my commercial gym and how long to get there from 0? I can power clean 50kg buy that's it.
I've got 6 months left here and then am probably going to look for a gym where I can start doing it seriously.
Idk, just like the idea of being the only guy at my gym not on a split, which I currently am anyway. But oly lifts are so impressive looking.
Lowbar - 97.5kg
Had to switch to Highbar and work my way up again a month or so ago
Highbar - 80kg
Bench - 70kg
OHP - 40kg
DL - 132.5kg
6 month SS victim, slow bulking and keeping an eye on aestethics so stats probably nowhere near as good as they could be, but I don't look like shit.
with that back squat rn you're looking at 62/77 if you have really good efficiency.
if you can perform a 1plate snatch and a 2plate cj people will probably be impressed.
you can probably hit the 1plate snatch soonish, the 2pl8 cj maybe near the end, probably not tho
am i supposed to accelerate off the floor in a clean
i think i am but a coach says not to and that i should pull slowly off the floor and then accelerate when i am above knees
he said i should only accelerate from the floor when i can do 100kg with that method
but i can do 100kg when i accelerate. i can only do 60kg when i dont
hey guys, im very busy outside of training atm. had to cut back on the routine, simplify big time. how does this look? thanks
planning on ABCxDxx
Purposefully slow pull isnt right as far as I've been taught but being told to slow down the first pull is common.
40kg difference suggests your doing somthibg wrong desu, how much can you do from blocks or hang? They should be close to or sometimes even more, and there's no first pull with them
what sort of mobility work do u guys do? personally i foam roll thoracic spine, lats, it band and glutes the day of training, and do hip and shoulder stretches on off days. im not super bendy, but i can get into all the positions no problem. i find that becoming as flexible as some of the pros we see creates a loss of power. dae find that too?
60kg is typo i meant 70kg
ive never done them from blocks and only did hang cleans when i first learned to full clean
part of it is me yes. i just get tired when i have to start the lift slowly with any significant amount of weight
Still shouldnt be 30kgs different, maybe 5 or 10 tops from hang or pause.
It shouldnt be slow as fuck. Just slower. Push with legs, feel the tension, knees back, then accelerate into your extension. I'm no expert but this is what I've been taught.
Maybe you're hitting different incorrect positions when your lifting slow?
found one of u retards
guess what too? he snatches less than 100kg lmao
i guess i might. i do know that i hit the right spot when i clean fast
i just dont see the point in pulling slower than possible
every successful lifter ive looked at cleans like this. fast from the floor and slightly faster as a result of the knee rebend
im being told to start the first pull slow like this girl and it seems awkward and pointless
>i do know that i hit the right spot when i clean fast
no you don't
you clean 100kg ffs
you don't know shit listen to your coach and stop being a shithead know it all, ask him to explain it properly to you and stop being socially awkward and you might learn something
besides promoting highly technical lifts with moderate weight for time, why is crossfit so bad? i do oly wl myself, but im considering to do some cf to lose some fat for summer. isnt it just fancy hiit training?
You are not an elite level lifter. They don't 'pull fast' they pull smoothly and consitantly
I'd wager your just ripping it from the floor, that isnt the same. You say you hit proper positions but it really doesn't sound like it, do you have a video of your 100kg and your slower pull?
There's no way a proper first pull done slow can cut 30kg off a lift... All it does is set up the rest of the lift the speed here is pretty irrelevant as things like paused cleans show, they're not done 30kg lower usually
Yeah nah, you're just not seeing it, stop being a hothead and just do what your coach says.
Liao isn't pulling fast from the floor, it moves pretty slowly, then it speeds up once it's past the knees
You're probably just gripping and ripping from the floor and not really hitting the correct positions at all when you pull fast, where is video