What is the superior chin up position and why is it close grip?

>>35633347
Where is this from?

Just outside of shoulder width is best imo

Always lol when I see people that think super wide grip works lats more

Close grip is nice I guess if you're more focused on arms, but you can always just do regular ass curls and hit them harder anyways so kinda pointless imo

>>35633353
George of The Jungle. Cuck my shit up

>>35633321
The fuck , on the left negro is doing pull ups, on the right whiteboy doing chin ups.

>>35633384
Someone hasn't read Dorian yates back guide

>>35633321
works different muscles you dumbfuck

One is a pullup. The other is s chinup. Chinups are easier.

>>35633321
Cycling through the following is the way to go:

- shoulder width pullup
- wide grip pullup
- neutral grip
- chin up

>>35633321
With the close grip I hardly feel my lats, it's basically mostly my arms. With the regular grip I feel my lats more. I do both on pull days.

>>35636425
he said which "chin up" grip position is better, you faggot.

talking about grip width.

everyone knows pull ups are harder, and everyone knows chin ups are better for targeting lats.

the debate is wide grip vs close grip.

and close grip is objectively better as it increases ROM for the lats.

>>35636464
retract your scapula and curve your spine more.

the lats cannot fully contract with out a slight curve to the spine (extension, not flexion)

>2016
>not doing hammer chins for optimal forearm and bicep gains.

>>35633321
>chin ups work the lats more so they are obviously superior
You guys realize lats arent the only back muscles right?

>men
Muscle-up
>faggots
Pull-up
>subhuman trash
Chin-up

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Doing reverse grip or "chin ups" targets your biceps and is great I guess if you're working back and bi's that day. Wide grip lat pull ups are hella more efficient for lat width. You'd use the same grip as if you were performing a "lat pull down." If you wanna target more of your back just work with a lot of row based exercises and lat exercises lol.

>>35633321
>not moving left right on the bar like you're scaling a cliff in splinter cell

fuck all yall

>>35636618
>wider grip means wider lats
stop spreading this misinformation idiot

>>35633321
Facts are core who don't best you're chinups. Exercise.

>not doing one arm pull ups

Kek, you weak faggots

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which type would you guys say is better for pic related?

>>35636807
Just become a flying squirel and be done with it.

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24662157
>Collectively, a medium grip may have some minor advantages over small and wide grips; however, athletes and others engaged in resistance training can generally expect similar muscle activation which in turn should result in similar hypertrophy gains with a grip width that is 1-2 times the biacromial distance.
/thread

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>>35636673

>Facts are core who don't best you're chinups. Exercise.

what

>>35636807
Pullups judging by his baby biceps (I doubt he ever touched a barbell)

>>35635323
>Someone hasn't read Dorian yates back guide
why would any listen to what that retard has to say

>>35636439
I would agree with this. But I would add whatever is more comfortable for you (as long as it's a pull up)

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>>35636439
>2016
>muscle confusion
Enjoy your noob gains and nothing more

>>35636860
>>35636860
im not saying i want to go to that extreme, but just wondering how he got that lmuch lat development

>>35636874
yeah im trying to research his workouts now, from what i remember reading about him in the past he was only into bodyweight exercises, no weight training

>>35636927
is muscle confusion a real thing or is this a troll? anyone else?

>>35636945
it's a fucking troll you idiot

>>35636945
Have you ever watched Crossfitters do their thing? I could see that term being used to describe it.

That being said, constantly hopping between different exercises or programs is bad mkay, it doesn't work, choose one and get better at that

>>35633321
Neutral grip

>>35636983
Expect doing different pullups works your shoulder in different positions and strengthens your rotor cuff

>>35636940
>Bruce Lee
>only into bodyweight exercises, no weight training

Wut?

>>35636877
>not learning from the king of back
Some people just aren't gonna make it

>>35636863
How dare you post facts?!

Slow pullups vs fast pullups, which is better?
Say I can do 6 slow (3-5 seconds up, 3-5 seconds down) PUs and 15 fast explosive ones, which exercise was more beneficial?

>>35633321
Why should you limit yourself to only doing just chin ups or pull ups? You can get so much variation with pull ups and chin ups just by changing grip width.

supinated grip because it works out more muscle mass and for me it's the only time i really hit biceps

>>35636945
People don't know what the term implies, and so they think it's a troll.
It basically comes down to adjusting your routine after you've adapted to certain exercises and are having a hard time progressing.

>>35636599
>130lb kiddo detected

>>35637642
Dunno, but don't explode as fast as to jeopardize your posture and don't use momentum to aid the movement

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>>35636940
>Bruce Lee
>no weight training

>>35637642
Slow.

Time under tension = gains

>>35633321
Superior chinup position is when your chin is above the bar

Also in your pic one guy is doing a chin up the other a pullup

>>35636501
But the picture is chin ups and pull ups, not wide vs close chin ups. He's mentioning how the picture isn't a representation of what's being asked. Calm your shit

why is it that when i do pull-ups my right shoulder hurts afterwards for like 2 days but if i do only chin-ups my shoulder feels fine?