What do you do to ensure maximum gains? if you want maximum and eternal gains you better convert to Islam my friend
> deepest lore, makes normal life more interesting because the truth is revealed
> cleanliness next to Godliness, I'm clean and powerful
>instills discipline, I pray 5 times a day, so going gym once a day is five times easier
>alpha religion, I'm going to secure four wives with my body, which it allows
>women are the opposite of traitorous sluts, they know their role and stay there
>millions of gymbros waiting to help
>allowed to Crusade the shit out of your enemies and naysayers
>wealthy as fuck
Get on my level
>not being a taoist
>never get peace of mind
>always with endless thoughts of violence cluttering your mind
I honestly don't know how you even lift.
Enjoy your never gonna make it islambro
Being a muslim, i think you should read the passage where you allegedly can take up to 4 wives and revise it's context.
Protip: It's about adoption, not marrying multiple wives.
Also to any atheist or christian. If a "muslim" claims he can claim 4 wives, tell him to gtfo. It's ignorant as fuck.
Literally a DYEL pagan
> implying you can get big on Taoism
You'll just become good at being a peaceful vegetable, no strength, but you'll be calm and flexible alone on a mountainside. It's like constant cardio for the soul, no time to reap rewards. Not practical.
>wanting to be big
I thought pig was haram in your culture?
Only war we're having is one of ignorance my brother. Sadly, it's amongst ourselves.
So let me get this straight. You advocate Islam, but have no interest in following any of its tenants?
An infidel of your own religion
You might have more success if you meditate on you misdeeds anon
>implying anything but ottermode gets grills
A good human is one that examines himself before examining others deed.
It's scary how far from islam the arab world is at the moment. Let alone people who claim they are righteous.
Fuck, and no wonder people hate religion. People like you are the one that shout the loudest.
If you have any taoist temples near you then talk to them. Otherwise google is your friend.
Start by reading the classics, Laozi, Zuangzi, the I ching etc.
You can read this I guess http://personaltao.com/teachings/taoism/taoism-101/
Also be an excellent dude and try to keep your emotions in check. By that I don't mean suppressing them, just try and be calm. This will come naturally as you get better at meditation and mindfulness
I'll never convert, lest I betray my ancestors
Apologist? I'm talking about common sense.
It's surprising how many people who claim to be muslim but haven't even read the Quran.
Ofcourse I'm bashing the arab world, we are brothers but we have been fighting amongst ourselves and slaughtering while the rest of the world has been evolving.
No matter the injustice that we have gone through, we shouldn't point fingers at what's wrong, we should DO something.
But ofcourse, if anyone truly cared about religion, we wouldn't have these problems we have today. It's all about fucking money, it's a game.
Saudi don't give a shit about Islam, Iran doesn't, Daesh doesn't. It's a fucking game to keep people silent.
So yes, fuck the arab world. It's shit-tier.
>What do you do to ensure maximum gains? if you want maximum and eternal gains you better convert to Islam my friend
Nice meme faggot
>> deepest lore, makes normal life more interesting because the truth is revealed
Not even atheïsts sound this fedorah, truth is not truth without evidence, religion offers no evidence and instead expects Faith, you cannot objectively call religious beliefs as truth
>> cleanliness next to Godliness, I'm clean and powerful
Muslims tend to smell tho, either of body odor or spices so you being clean makes you an exception. Power full? Again exemption to the rule most muslim youth dont dare do shit without having 10 friends around, its pathetic
>>instills discipline, I pray 5 times a day, so going gym once a day is five times easier
Like that is hard to begin with, if youd have used ramadan as a discipline builder I would agree but you chose to go full retard
>>alpha religion, I'm going to secure four wives with my body, which it allows
You probably lack the social skills to woo a woman and make her soon over you, instead you force brainwashed women who believe pooping out babies is all they can accomplish into marrying you, when faced with women outside becomes apparant, with the lack of value in women in islam the most likely way youll ever see whitegirl pussy is through rape
>>women are the opposite of traitorous sluts, they know their role and stay there
>all women outside islam are traitorous sluts
>women are only good at being womeb
Islam 100% confirmed fedorah
>>millions of gymbros waiting to help
This doesnt even make sence
>>allowed to Crusade the shit out of your enemies and naysayers
Which will lead to the degeneration of the human race and is the exact reason why islam is shit and deserves only ridicule and kebab removal
>>wealthy as fuck
Lol, no, all muslims are welfare pullers #1
>Get on my level
No thanks. i like it up here
Muslim isnt a race
>here are problems
>here are zero solutions on any scale
>fuck the arab world
You're a pig of the CIA. In-fighting around the world is caused by them now. How can you be this dense?
CIA doesn't only operate in the arab world, why is it only we that gets rekt by them?
The leaders are corrupt, and the sheeps are following TV-imams spouting all kinds of bullshit and agitating the poor.
Why are you insulting me? Do you think I'm lying?
The problem with the arab world is islam
Its not iraqies attacking iranians and vice versa, its different streams of islam attacking eachother
Take islam away from that region (literally all big scale violence is done cause someone believes it will make Allah happy) and all they have left is oil, sand and neat cars
>being this /pol/
Jesus fuck why can't you twats just stay in your corner circlejerking
Says the person posting in a religious thread on a fitness board
Stormtrooper of sick spins is more fit related then this entire thread faggot
I bet youre OP tho, in that case;
Disregard my post based on the pic I posted, I dont blame you.
Bet I was right about every word
CIA is fucking with Africa, South America, Middle East. What do you mean by 'only we'? They literally keep the wrong people in power on purpose, bribe who they need to, and then spread disinfo. Arab world is not the 'only' victims at all.
The truth is, it is the nature of people to be feeble. Religion is an attempt at guiding people, but of course, it can be used incorrectly and corrupted. Is it the fault of the religion? No.
It is the nature of the test.
How do you become this way? Were you molested by a nazi as a child?
No. It means;
A) If you get an orphan and the child has a mother that is alive, you must take her under your roof and treat her as your wife. To take "up to 4" of them is only a figure of speech.
B) If there is wartime, men will die. If men die, women wont have husband material.
Sure, it's wartime, but there's plenty of men, so marrying more wives is not legit.
I don't think so, because it's an old seated story.
The ottomans were the ones who made Shia vs Sunni full-scale. MOST common arab people dont give shit about shia-sunni (dad is shia, mom is sunni) but it was used as an excuse for the Ottomans to seize power from the approaching persian forces around the 1400's. Since then, the conflict has been all about power.
Religion is used for power, but it doesn't mean that religion is bad. Just like nuclear power. It can be used as a weapon, but it doesn't mean that it's ontologically bad.
People will kill people even if there's no nuclear bombs.
CIA? It's a longer story than that. Read about imperialism?
To point fingers at CIA is comfortable as it doesn't require any historical knowledge nor any basis.
Islam promotes you to think and seek knowledge. Most of the arab world are fat slobs sitting on their asses doing nothing, and pointing fingers where it's comfortable.
Im not /pol/ tho, I just like using their termology cause fun, Im just a European who has lived in between immigrant kebab long enough to realise that they disregard any form of law which isnt sharia and that the ones in islamic countries hate the western world
Luckily only a few of them only hate us enough to actually physically attack us
Islam is a problem as it clashes with western civilisations in western countries, no amount of political correctness will change that.
Women in Europe are being raped and molested and the established leaders only want to cover shit up cause there wasnt a big enough support for the idea of letting in refugees to begin with
Call me a racist. Call me a hater, I stopped caring about people who bring nothing but namecalling to politics, namecalling is fine but follow up with an actually arguement, but dont you dare say my hate is unfounded
>not being Buddhist
>training the mind with meditation
>able to settle the mind and see cause and effect clearly
>no compulsion to eat junk food cause you arent driven by pleasure and pain
>no need for muh discipline
>it's plain and simple, lifting right gives you gains
>skipping gym gives you no gains
>which do you want?
>achieving the end of suffering
>aka escaping tfwnogf and being happy with yourself
>17 Unique IPs
Nobody cares about your shitty religion, take this shit back to /pol/ and stay there OP, literally nothing you said is /fit/ related
>millions of gymbros waiting to help
What? I mean really, what? This applies to any religion.
> cleanliness next to Godliness, I'm clean and powerful
Muslims smell like absolute shit in the gym, this is how I know you don't lift.
>haha wrong on all accounts
>implying a muslims word can be taken at face value
You lot make it hard for others to trust you then complain that no one trusts you
You need to treat them all equally, sounds like more trouble than not tbqh
True, i feel like the religion is run by young horny ignoramuses right now. True islamic jesus+mahdi goldenage when?
You have a point, but i cannot agree fully.
Islam, in my opinion and limited knowledge, is about the individual contact with God. Very little in the scripture is about how to live, that's mostly in the hadiths.
Although, hadiths are legitimate sources of information, the quran came complete. You don't need anything besides it to live.
This is what muslims believe.
Now, the problem i think people do is mix the culture with religion. The arabic culture has alot of misogyny in it, but so does every culture really. It just expresses itself in different ways. What I can see, personally, is that very little from the quran actually strides against the western mentality and mindset.
Other than that, we must not forget that every human is an individual, and everyone thinks differently.
Now imagine if you're an afghan living in the mountains. You've never seen anything else but goats and endless mountains. Now there's war, and wow youre in Europe. There's people, social life, big cities.
You can imagine what happens in those peoples minds.
It's doesn't justify it, far from the majority freaks out like we read in the news. But it explains it.
Taqiyya is that you're permitted to lie about Islam if you're under death threat. For example; if you're under a gun and someone asks if you're a muslim, you're allowed to say no.
I don't know more than that.
>arguing about religion on a fitness board.
Why must you people be like this
Not the anon you're replying to, but thanks for reasonably explaining Islam. I still hate it because of blatant misogyny in the Quran. That and literally all of the Arab countries suck dick.
>the 5 precepts are optional for the lay people
>you take them when you're ready
>you don't have to ordain
>in Thai forest, you can disrobe anytime you want, no biggie
I'm sorry, I can hear you over the sound of my freedoms
>instills discipline, I pray 5 times a day, so going gym once a day is five times easier
yeah cause lifting is exactly as strenuous as adopting the doggy style position on a fucking colorful yoga mat
Nordic paganism beats you there bro
>tfw no 10/10 valkyrie qt3.14
Which is the core of the problem, Islam is xenophobic at its core, everything that is not islam must join islam or be destroyed, not every muslim lives too it thankfully, I have a muslims neighbour, we often cook cultural dishes from our own respective cultures for eachother, but one muslim is not islam
The hadiths are still a part of islam So to write it off as unnecesairy is looking away from the problem, there are still plenty of people who adhere too it
As for mixing culture with religion, religion is culture, but culture is not religion. I am heavily convinced that the misogyny in the arab world comes from islam, it was for example not a problem in old Iran before islam took over when women wore skirts, the fact that youre blaming it on arab culture while that is simply not true has my Taqiyya senses tingling.
Its not the mountaineers coming to europe, 80% is 18-25 y/o men in brand clothing and iphones, Again, Taqiyya senses tingling, the problem is in islam alone
Taqiyya is allowed when you think its when islam is being threatened and is as such open to interpretation meaning any discussion about it being allowed or not is wasted breath, youve already shoved the blame off shit which is globally known as an islam problem onto different sources outside of islam
raping and beating women doesn't mean you're alpha ahmed.
>Not knowing the history of christianity.
>Not realizing that the Bishop of Rome was 1 of 5 major bishops.
>Not knowing the only reason there is a "Catholic" church is because he was a greedy self centered fuckwit
Holy shit my sides
orthodox is called this way for a reason
behold the true master race of christianity
The whole first paragraf; Sources please.
Second paragraf, you said it yourself, one "muslim" is not islam. Also, most hadiths that are written are fabricated afterwards. To say if it's islam or not is to get into semantics. What "true" islam is, in it's essence, is the quran. Not more, not less.
It's funny how people take the concept of Taqiyya and has made it into such a huge thing. I'd really like you to say any single sources that says that Taqiyya is allowed when Islam collectivly is assualted. I've never heard such a concept from a legit muslim.
And please, don't refer to goverment/political muslims. As we all know, politics and religion doesn't go hand in hand.
And about the iphones. Syria isn't as poor as you'd think. The people who are coming to Europe are the ones who could afford it.
To write off anything i write as "taqiyya" makes you really wonder who is ignorant. As i said, this given meaning of taqiyya has no historical background, no backing from the source passage that mentions taqiyya.
Gosh, but i don't blame you. As said, most people who claim they are muslims haven't read the quran.
Personal experience with western muslims, especially the youth. The apathy of the adults not correcting the youth is them being just as guilty, maybe even more. For the rest, mostly the news and some very very basic knowledge of a handfull if verses in islam. Also islams history, a desert sect from a time where surviving called for violence we see terrorists commit today
I'll rest my case on the tenants then, I know how the average muslim feels about people changing/adding/removing from islam, but that is the reason why terrorists still act like the world is a desert with limited resources which they have to kill for to establish their own lives
>religion and government dont go hand in hand
Which makes Sharia completely absolute. I dont care if you agree or disagree with it but thats what youre implying because laws are made and upheld by governments. That is literally the governments only right of existance. As for the syrians, we were talking about afghan Mountain dwellers
Its not anything you write, it is specifically when you write something which is globally recognized as an islam problem and place it at anothers feet
Like misoginy having more to do with arab culture then it has to do with islam
But again, with tenants like Taqiyya and not a single muslim ever speaking out AGAINST Taqiyya the muslim community forces everyone who knows anything about Taqiyya to take nothing a muslim says to promote or discuss islam at face value. Religion is a choice, with choices come consequences.
If youd tell me its raining where you are right now I wouldnt immediately assume Taqiyya, Im not by the way, but it is in the back of my head and I feel that Id be a naïve idiot to ignore that instinct
I did some research about Taqiya, as im genuinly interested, and most of the sources seem to point to sura 3.28.
Now, arabic is a very complex language so translations vary ALOT, but my understanding and what i saw was the most accurate translation was this;
"Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. Whoso doeth that hath no connection with Allah unless (it be) that ye but guard yourselves against them, taking (as it were) security. Allah biddeth you beware (only) of Himself. Unto Allah is the journeying."
In previous verses, the quran is commenting about the other religions of the scripture in;
"Hast thou not seen how those who have received a portion of the Scripture invoke the Scripture of Allah (in their disputes) that it may judge between them; then a faction of them turn away, being opposed (to it)?"
Probably talking about the jews and the christians. I think that 3.28 is refering to the struggles early muslims had with mostly jewsish people. 3.23 (and 3.24) is talking about how the original old and new testemants and teachings of the previous prophets is an integral part of Islam, but that it had been corrupted and/or changed. One of the main principles in Islam is the belief that the quran is uncorrupted and unchanged, which in itself is a strong contrast to the rest of the abrahamitic books.
The quran were recieved in parts by hearing, and not as a complete book. It's a belief that the quran were whispered in the prophets ear and he recited it for others to write.
Now, what i can understand from 3.28 is that it came down in a context that melting in was crucial, in a society that was dangerous to muslims (whereas, "taking security"). It says nothing about being offensive and/or attacking or deceiving, and nothing about Islam being threatened?
What i think taqiyya (meaning "caution" in arabic, not "lying") means is basically that if you happen to live in a society that (cont..)
>In 2004, Muslims had the highest male unemployment rate in Great Britain, at 13 per cent. This was about three times the rate for Christian men (4 per cent).
>In Denmark, Muslims make up 5% of the population but receive 40% of social-welfare outlays
>The Middle East is the region with the highest rate of unemployment in the world, confirmed the International Labour Organisation (ILO)
>More than half the adult population is illiterate in some countries, and the proportion is as high as 70% among women.
>The 57-member countries of the Organisation of Islamic Conference (OIC) have around 500 universities compared with more than 5,000 universities in the US and more than 8,000 in India.
>The whole Arab world translates about three hundred books annually–one fifth the number that Greece alone translates; investment in research and development is less than one seventh the world average; and Internet connectivity is worse than in sub-Saharan Africa
>[According to a Gallup Institute study involving 300,000 people] American Muslims for the most part have lower incomes, less education and fewer jobs than the population as a whole
>As many as 2,000 women and girls from various minority sects were forcibly converted to Islam through rape, torture and kidnappings, according to a report by the Society for the Protection of the Rights of the Child (SPARC)
To everyone in the thread, listen to this anon >>35612128 as nearly all "Muslims" haven't even read the Quran. Not surprising with these illiteracy rates.
is hostile to muslims (which historically, jewish and christians societies where), then you were to be cautious. I don't know where the concept of taqiyya being a offensive "stratergy" of conquest comes from, and from a religious standpoint i see none.
To further comment your post;
>The apathy of the adults not correcting the youth is them being just as guilty, maybe even more. For the rest, mostly the news and some very very basic knowledge of a handfull if verses in islam. Also islams history, a desert sect from a time where surviving called for violence we see terrorists commit today
This is TRUE. Adults don't give a fuck and are shrouded in probably a natural hatred that stems from harsh war conditions. It doesn't excuse the apathy, but the aggression that comes from it is wild and knows no limits.
It's a "war" to them, and to brain wash or just pick and mix several verses to make their own point is hypocritical, wrong and just pure ignorant.
Sadly, it's a huge part of people who are imigrating to Europe that has that view.
About Sharia law;
In the quran i know there's a verse that states that you must obey the law of the country you're residing, be it muslim nor non-muslim, as long as it doesn't directly go against the quran.
And speaking of laws that go against the Quran...
2.256: "No compulsion is there in religion."
Guess Saudi and Iran didn't know that one.
I'll say as my grandpa always said;
Europe is more islamic and just in its laws then any arab country will ever be.
baka senpai. As i said. Arab countries are
S H I T
Again, like anything religion Taqiyya is open to interpretation and as such discussing when it should and shouldnt be used it is wasted breath but the last thing you said I find ironic, there are enough muslims who believe in both our versions of what Taqiyya means, but with the amount of islamic apologists in western media and the countless cases of failed imigration (represented in hard facts by this poster:
>>35612338) leads me to believe my Taqiyya is the one I face more often then yours
Here's some fun "le goatfucker meme is just a meme!" facts
>Pakistan ranked No. 1 in searches for "child sex," "animal sex," "rape sex," "camel sex," "dog sex," "rape video" and more.
The Muslim country, which has banned content on at least 17 websites to block offensive and blasphemous material, is the world's leader in online searches for pornographic material
. . .
>Google ranks Pakistan No. 1 in the world in searches for pornographic terms, outranking every other country in the world in searches per person for certain sex-related content.
>Pakistan is top dog in searches per-person for "horse sex" since 2004, "donkey sex" since 2007, "rape pictures" between 2004 and 2009, "rape sex" since 2004, "child sex" between 2004 and 2007 and since 2009, "animal sex" since 2004 and "dog sex" since 2005, according to Google Trends and Google Insights, features of Google that generate data based on popular search terms.
Statistically, Arab countries are LITERALLY the worst places to live on Earth.
Glad we agree on the responsability adults hold towards their childrens behaviour regardless of culture
As for sharia law, you stated it yourself, unless it goes against sharia, meaning that the only reason they follow regional law is not cause of respect for the regional community, bit because sharia said so, which sort of confirms my opinion for me that muslims have no respect for regional law outside sharia
>no compulsion is there in religion
This ia false for literally all religions
There is a big BIG difference between preaching and acting, wether someone is a good or bad muslim is however also not the problem
The problem is Islam being cryptic in how to treat outsiders, which leads to cases like my neighbour who I often cook for (and he for me) but also to cases like IS
Needless to say, until muslims as a whole instigate change in islam so that there can never be a question of the value of life compared to non believers (like christianity and judaïsm did, these two know terrorist cells in their own communities but far from as numerous as islam because they went through this 'golden era') the rest of the world will fear, hate and be waery of islam and rightfully so.
>Alriyadyh Arabic language daily said nearly 12 per cent of Saudi Arabia’s 20 million national men are suffering from impotence and that 80 per cent of the cases are associated with psychological problems.
>“Saudis are the sixth largest consumers of sex drugs in the world…their consumption is as much as 10 times that of Russia although the population in that country is more than 10 times the Saudis,” it said.
>“Besides psychological factors, diabetes is the main cause of impotence in Saudi Arabia as nearly 15 per cent of the Saudis suffer from that disease against only 3-5 per cent in other countries…other factors include the high rate of high blood pressure cases, obesity and lack of exercise.”
>According to the study, Arab countries spend more than $10 billion on Viagra and other anti-impotence medicines every year and that Saudi Arabia alone spends over $1.5 billion.
How can you not laugh?
But I enjoyed our discussion but Im going to stop posting now, back to work and then go home cause bro tier neighbour came back from visiting iranian family and he brought me a pound bag of saffron (which is literally 50* more expensive then gold per weight in my country, Im just gonna use it to Cook tho cause selling it would be ungrateful considering his family trades in it and he gave it to me for free) and hes using it to make couscous so I have shit to look forward too
Unless it goes against the word of God, now there's a difference there. The word of God is the quran, and most of the sharia laws is hadiths, aka. Not the word of God but fabrications, scholary explainations and so fort. The laws that are in the quran are mostly about how to handle adoptions, taxes, how to legally wed and so on.
What i see; i haven't had any problems personally to abide these laws as they easily coexist with my regional laws.
Also, i have a hard time believing that sharia-laws promotes rape, murder and theft honestly, i haven't read it and dont mind to do so.
Sure it's a false for many religions, but it's the religion and idea that we are talking about, not the humans that claim to carry it out.
I don't think islam is cryptic in any way. What is right greatly differs from what is wrong. If you are a sound person, you know what is right.
As i previously stated; IS doesnt give a shit about islam. You should never under any circumstances kill a muslim or disgrace mosques, yet they still do it. You should never be the aggressor in physical combat, that is written clearly in the quran.
But as you said. Islam needs to unite, but there's so many sects, small town folks that are being deluded so forth.. its a mess in the arabic world.
Because I've been in Iraq and several "muslim" countries. It's degeneracy at it's finest, i'm glad /pol/ haven't seen what i have seen.
the same to you. I can understand your thoughts 10000%. I just hope that someday, people would understand that islam is so much more than what we see. Raised in a sufi family, concepts like "holy war" and the militant of "islamism" , it's just sooo far away from what i have been raised on...
iranian rice with saffron is the best.
Did somebody say Stoicism?
>free of passions
>pure sage mode
>can devote yourself to anything 100%
I'm atheist and there a fuck load of idiotic atheists
The part of religion that's like mindfullness is ok, the praying, the believing in something bigger, being in contact with the all is good for the self.
The stories tho are complete lies and believing that the angels lifted the mountain of Sinai reaps no merit.
Same goes for the stories in the Old and the New Testament taking them literally makes no sense, so if it makes no sense, then we shouldn't use them, because it'd be waisting our time with something fabricated while we could've been educating ourself about the real world (The West is white-washing history, but the Middle-East was the first by falsifying history trough religion).
Which is why Mindfullness > Buddhism > Jainism > The Rest
muslims are and always will be stone-age illiterate subhuman creatures. They will never amount to anything other than rabid animals and their belief system hasn't left 1400 a.d.
if you want to get big just focus on diet and exercise not the proper goat fucking form
>Go to Google, type in "Did Muslims invent"
Continuing on the theme of what Muslims did - or more likely did not do - for the world, there is a widespread misconception that they "invented algebra". Maybe this fallacy is due to the fact that "algebra" is a word of Arabic origin, but historical questions are not solved by etymological answers.
Yes, the English word "algebra" derives from the Arabic. So does "sugar" (from the Arabic "sukkar") but that doesn't mean that Muslims invented sugar.
The word "algebra" stems from the Arabic word "al-jabr", from the name of the treatise Book on Addition and Subtraction after the Method of the Indians written by the 9th-century Persian mathematician Muhammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī, who translated, formalized and commented on ancient Indian and Greek works.
It is even doubtful whether al-Khwārizmī was really a Muslim. The Wikipedia entry on him says:
Regarding al-Khwārizmī's religion, Toomer writes:
"Another epithet given to him by al-Ṭabarī, "al-Majūsī," would seem to indicate that he was an adherent of the old Zoroastrian religion. This would still have been possible at that time for a man of Iranian origin, but the pious preface to al-Khwārizmī's Algebra shows that he was an orthodox Muslim, so al-Ṭabarī's epithet could mean no more than that his forebears, and perhaps he in his youth, had been Zoroastrians."
In all likelihood he was a Zoroastrian who was forced to convert (or die) by Muslim rulers because Persia had been conquered by the Islamic armies and that was what Muslims did (and still do wherever they can). That could easily explain the "pious preface to al-Khwārizmī's Algebra".