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>>35599161
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>>35599216
fatties might as well just cover their ears and scream 'lalala'
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>>35599236
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>>35599111
>battle scars
yeah im sure it took a whole lot of struggling to finish that entire turkey
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>>35599216
well this is actually almost true.

only 10% of people that undergo lifestyle changes can actually stay at a lower body weight longterm. 90% will go back to their original weight or higher. from a medical point of view lifestyle change as a therapy against obesity is quite inefficient.
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>>35600200
how the fuck could that possibly be true
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>>35600200
That's because they quit after the easiest step, which is losing the weight.
The hard part comes after, cause you need to keep up the new lifestyle - forever.
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>>35600200
Yeah, that's impossible. The more likely conclusion is not that the lifestyle change failed, but that the fatty failed to maintain the lifestyle change.
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>>35600322
Which leads to the same thing.
If 90% of the participants fail to lose weight in a study, the conclusion of the study won't be "this way to lose weight is legit and it works, 90% of the people are just too dumb to do it."

Because if something doesn't work for the vast majority, it doesn't work in real life, even if a hypothetical perfect human could do it.

By the way, after several years on /fit/ I've noticed how many threads there are of fatties trying to lose weight and pledging to never fail like all those other fatties, yet you never see a thread of someone who managed to keep the weight off for 2 or 3 years.
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>>35599161
HAHAHAHAHA this has to be some troll post. no one is that delusional.
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>>35600382
You don't understand.
It does work for the vast majority.
Lemme explain it in terms you understand.
As a doctor, you give your patient a prescription.
Your patient does your prescription and gets results.
Then later, your patient decides to stop taking the prescription and goes back to the way they were.
"HURR DURR THE PRESCRIPTION DOESN'T WORK"
You're an idiot.
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>>35600452
I think what he is trying to say, is that if you are fat at an early age, and for a number of years, your TDEE is going to be low. This is because you have permanently fucked up how your body processes food. So you constantly have to eat at a caloric deficit to maintain a healthy weight, and 90% of fatties can't do this.
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>>35600488
If you're maintaining then you're not at a deficit, genius.
Your atp energy efficiency can be increased through exercise. It's not that they can't, it's that they choose not to which is ENTIRELY different than 'can not'.
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>>35600488
If you lose weight it won't be at deficit anymore , am I wrong ?
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>>35600200
But weight is a shit metric. Probably worse than bmi for painting even less of a clear picture. For instance I started at 210, dropped to 170 and now I'm back to 180 and climbing but lean.
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>>35600488
Diet culture in america has taught people that you change your diet to lose weight, then you go back to your old pattern of eating.

It is wrong, and people need to stop thinking so. A diet change is a lifetime change.
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>>35600508
>>35600572

basically the deficit becomes the maintain, but fatties don't understand this. A normal 5'11 person may have a TDEE of 2200 calories, but if they are a recovering fatty, it will be 1900, or something like that.
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>>35599111
Battle scars? From what, stealing candy?
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>>35600200
>only 10% of people that attempt to make a lifestyle change have the discipline to stick with it
Ftfy. 100% of people that actually make a lifestyle change will stay healthy
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>>35600200
Only for psychological reasons, not physical.

If a fatty loses 100 lbs, he won't automatically gain it back if he maintains his diet and exercise. What will actually happen will be the fatty thinks
>alright! I've reached my goal and lost 100 lbs! Now I can treat myself to a bit of junk food and I don't have to go to the gym everyday!
Of course they'll gain the weight back if they fall into old habits.
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>>35600790
I have heard it's easier to put on fat if you've been fat before. I think when you get obese your body creates new fat cells, and those don't go away when you lose weight they just get smaller. So a former fatty will gain fat more easily then someone who was never fat, all else being equal. But, I don't think it's a huge difference and certainly not impossible to maintain with a slightly stricter diet.
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>>35600790
Here's an idea:
When you decide to lose the fat, calculate the TDEE for your goal weight, and just keep eating that forever.
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>>35600669
in adipose people (BMI > 30) it is a good metric.

>>35600452
thats what was said about chemotherapy as well. people stopped taking their medicine and died to the cancer instead. and that was simply because of the severe nausea and vomitting that was induced.

people dont stop taking their therapies because the therapies arent working fast enough, but because of side effects. and beeing hungry all fucking day long for months or years is definetly nothing fun.

so get real and stop the "your mind must be weak" act.
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>>35600912
>what is cancer
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>>35600960
It is very rare for the body to make new fat cells. While it is possible, unlikely outside the extreme obese.

What does happen is the current fat cells become bigger as you become obese. So even when they are empty and deflated, they remain a larger size, and it is easier for them to store large amounts of fat quickly.

The same is true for muscles, this is why people who were formerly big find it easier to gain mass quickly.
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>>35601097

This.
I am so happy me and my sister were always active as kids and teens. Because even when I'm doing sedentary work for long periods of time, I can still regain muscle relatively easy when I go back to working out. Letting kids be obese really does fuck them up for life.
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>>35599216
Fuck those are my initials
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>>35601552
R u Mary Gainz, spidermongs trap gf?
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>>35599216
>most
>none

does not compute
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>>35600945
this
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>>35600941
>Body Terrorism

oh I am laffin
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>>35599209
I was there for that. Fucking great times.
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>>35600912
If I decided to become addicted to meth, that'd be a lifestyle change too, you know.
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>>35599182
God this is bad
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>>35600941
Boomer from Left4Dead is the only thing you could describe as "body terrorism".
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>>35600200
>90% of people dont go through with the lifestyle change, return to their old habits, and get fat again
>DURR CHANGE DONT WORK

moron
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>>35599111
>I've McFallen
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>>35602306
>half of everybody I know showed me this pathetic, unfunny attempt at self deprecative humor.
Holy shit, it's just sad. Not funny at all. I hope she enjoys her McDiabetes too. I bet that video will be fucking hilarious!
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>>35602398
>Not funny at all

Suit yourself m8. I personally find fatasses faceplanting pretty hilarious, staged or not
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>>35602232
thats the scientific consensus right now, dont blame the messager hater.
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>>35599371
welp if there from a pregnacy battle scars seems accurate
I hear those things are tough
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>>35602512
He did something at McDonald's and then said Mc in front of the thing he did!
>FUCKING HILARIOUS
>SO ORIGINAL
>SUCH COMEDY
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>>35600452
no you're an idiot.
people stick to taking pills - that is why it works and is feasible way of fighting disease.
people don't stick to changed habits - that is why it does not work and is not a feasible way of fighting obesity.
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>>35599236
Fatties BTFO using science. Fuck yeah bitch.
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>>35602566
That consensus has nothing to do with change being effective - it demonstrates how many weak-willed people are out there
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>>35602784
>people stick to taking pills
You don't know a lot of mental people.
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>>35599161
>a girl who was NOT pleased that I was taking up a small portion of *her* seat

Fuck you Fatty, you know how annoying that shit is? It is my own seat, and it's annoying to have someone leak over onto it from their own seat.

That girl was completely in the right.
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>>35600945
Biggest reason people regain their weight. They simply hit their goal and think it's fine to eat everything.

>tfw lost a shit ton of weight
>actually have to try and eat more to maintain, still kind of gradually losing some weight
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>>35602398
Everybody shared this shit to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ6-nCLeDsI

I don't know what's worse, the pathetically out of shape people with no idea about fitness or healthy eating screaming about shitty carb food they love, or the godawful mugging for the camera.
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>>35603006
Beyond that, she payed for it, so that seat *is* hers for the duration of the game. That condescending fat fuck can go choke.
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>>35599216
I guess my major weight loss is unscientific.
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>>35603061
But anon.... you just propogated the same thing by sharing it with me...
>ayyyyyy just bustin yer chops
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>>35599330
>that shitty cap
Yep, I capped that. That one is from /k/
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>>35599111
>battle scars
Ah yes, the great Burger-Artery War of '15.
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>>35603345

That tattoo on her back males me think of Pam from Archer
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>>35603516
Thank fuck for capitalism.
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>>35603516
>capitalism

Capitalism is also the reason they're able to be fat
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>>35603345

How much you want to be her profile pic is just a close up of her face?
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>>35600941
Someday I'll make a list of all the words whose meanings tumblr has systematically destroyed.

>triggered
>terrorism
>privilege
>phobia
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fresh
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>finally get my hands on a copy of London Howlin' Wolf Sessions
>have to sit through or manually skip HAES propaganda every time I want to listen to Who's Been Talking
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>>35602784
It is a feasible way of fighting obesity if people stick to it. If a method works, but people don't do it, that's their fault, not a problem with the method.
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>>35600941
So what are they?
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>>35599216
Landwhales and /pol/acks really need to learn what causation and correlation are
Most diets failing doesn't make dieting "scientifically impossible"
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>>35603253
I hope you have a good lawyer, violating the conservation of energy is a serious offense
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>>35599182
>forgetting diet is 80% of losing weight
Woops, your fat is showing
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>>35601008
You have to be a troll. You're comparing hunger to nausea and vomiting from fucking radiation.
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>>35601700
Sometimes
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>>35603486
Ayyy, Bayonetta sassin' it off at even age 4.
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>>35600200
Temporary lifestyle changes.
As in, one month of palio.
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>>35603388
Damn, that's fucked up. Could that be argued as assault, if she wanted to press charges?
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>>35605548
>fresh
>April 2013
>Been posted dozens of times before
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>>35603054
This. I'm having a hard time lean bulking now after cutting for over a year. It's terrible. Especially because I'm incredibly active at work, and it adds another 800-1000 calories to my TDEE.

What I ate today:
>rotisserie chicken breast sandwich
>chips
>granola bar
>whole large Casey's pizza
>ranch
>protein shake

I feel awful.
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>>35607661
You probably feel awful because you're eating garbage. Bulking doesn't mean you need to eat a whole pizza, chips, and dressing... there's high calorie healthy food. You could try eating a fuckin vegetable for once, maybe a fruit, or a source of polyunsaturated fat.
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>>35607705
I know. That's just what I ate today. Normally I eat lots better than that.

I worked both jobs today, and am just shitposting for an hour or so before bed.
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>>35603345
Damn, she could be gorgeous if she was human sized.
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>>35607747
>implying she doesn't have an ugly personality
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>>35607713
>>35607661

No job adds 800 fucking calories to a diet. You are exaggerating by an enormous amount.
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>>35603810
>Gross
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>>35607767
I work on a hog farm. I'm literally walking around or doing something strenuous for 8-10 hours a day.
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>those hands
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>>35607661
You fucked up, but Casey's pizza is fucking GOAT. I grew up in Iowa and when I'm back home I eat that shit like crazy.

>yfw when I just eat the toppings/cheese/sauce and throw the crust away tho
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>>35600488
>if you are fat at an early age, and for a number of years, your TDEE is going to be low. This is because you have permanently fucked up how your body processes food. So you constantly have to eat at a caloric deficit to maintain a healthy weight, and 90% of fatties can't do this.
MAXIMUM
BRO SCIENCE
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>>35603486
>im trying
Every time.
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>>35607767
but that's wrong
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>>35607767
Professional bodybuilder?

Olympic swimmer?

Soccer player?

r u srs anon?
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>>35603345
lol pear-chan, she's really left humanity behind m8y
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>>35603810
Don't forget rape.
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>>35601008

I see what you're saying. Something tells me everybody is looking at obesity from the wrong angle. I think the difference between fatties and naturally lean people is that the former don't understand that you should only eat when you're physically hungry, while the latter don't know that the fatties don't know this. Any fatty who realizes that they don't need to eat unless their stomach is actually growling (i.e physical hunger) will become thin without issue. The problem is we're all inundated with bullshit nutrition myths from every direction
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>go to see Creed
>(the movie)
>two fat bags of elmer's glue in the front row
>one clears her throat every 15 minutes
>can hear it in the back of the theater
>sounds like a 70 year old man trying to shit out a peach pit

Thin privilege is breathing.
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>>35608767
>Captain Star

HOLY SHIT I REMEMBER WATCHING THIS ON TELETOON WHEN I WAS LIKE 6

I remember it being super trippy
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>>35608813

cartoons were the shit back then. god knows the animators were on acid
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>>35599209
what a fucking insufferable cunt, too bad I missed the thread
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>>35599209
Is this the greatest thread ever made?
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Am I the only fatty here who uses these threads for motivation?

>tfw finally quit soda
>tfw went to the gym for the first time two days ago
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>>35600200
>not smoking isn't an effective means of reducing the health consequences of smoking cuz 90% of the people that try to quit start smoking again :^)
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>>35600488
>your TDEE is going to be low. This is because you have permanently fucked up how your body processes food. So you constantly have to eat at a caloric deficit to maintain a healthy weight,
'no', 'No', 'kek'
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>>35601097
No.

Muscle cells are made mostly of water, fat cells are made mostly of -- fat.

You can't magic-up energy from nowhere, hypertrophy of a fat cell literally can't happen without excess calorie consumption.
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>>35609506
>all those people watching at 0:23
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>>35607856
Lol at all the neets defending your stupid ass.

Everyone in a hard bulk has to eat 800-1000 more than their cut. Your job did nothing idiot
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>>35600200
>tfw 10%er
>tfw gonna be a 5%er
CMON
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>>35603345
Holy fucking high test
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>>35607767
During my military service we at three meals at 1400 calories each a day. Everyone there was lean
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>>35609823
>cleaning swimming pools
>75+ hours per week
>have to eat 3500 calories to gain weight
>get sick around 3000

not gonna make it
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>>35610292
eat ice cream and potato chips at late night, brah
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>>35603402
KEK
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>>35609506
the dude laughing.
DEVILISH
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>>35601097
Almost correct. People who are fat when they're children make more fat cells. So it is harder to stay at a low weight as an adult.

Muscle cells increase the number of nuclei, which synthesize protein, thus it is easier to gain mass back. Of course, the cell itself also increases in size and protein content. With anabolic steroid use, you see a much greater number of new nuclei, which take years to lose, which is why roiding in the off season works so well.
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>>35603486
>Furrikane
Those people actually exist
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>>35603797
Ha she's getting fat.
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>>35600382
If I invent a pull that is 100% effective when taken every day, and in a trial only 10% of people take it every day, were don't say the pill doesn't work. The treatment works for people who actually go through with it, not the people to dumb to make permanent lifestyles changes.
>people who don't make lifestyle changes don't lose weight, therefore making lifestyle changes isn't effective
Didn't make any sense. If 90% of people refuse treatment, then you should only judge the treatment based on the ones that actually did it
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>>35599330
ayy that was me and it happened a few years ago.

Come to find out she had a record for assault, public intox, and domestic disturbances. She wound up getting 6 months of probation as long as she went to AA and anger management. Not sure what happened with her kid (or kids?), as that was unrelated to my case.

Fuck San Antonio, I'm glad I don't live there anymore.
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>>35599330
I want to believe in this green text so much
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>>35600382
You haven't been here for long then, because I've seen many threads of people who have maintained weight loss. Furthermore, I know several people in real life who lost the weight and kept it off. My mother, a woman, which as we all know puts her at a disadvantage, even lost 80 pounds approximately 12 years ago and never gained back more than 15 pounds, and always lost that again. Now she's up and down by about 15, but she's maintaining a healthy weight.
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>>35603345
Would fucking smash, come at me /fit/
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>>35602566
Actually, interestingly enough, I can tell you're either completely uneducated or a first or second year university student with poor powers of critical thinking who never reads beyond the syllabus.
Reading one study, or several studies, which come to a conclusion is nice. Real science, however, does a few things that go beyond that. First of all, you need to read the discussions in these papers, because nearly every single one of them investigates reasons why their results turned out how they did. Most of these discussions include further investigative questions, paramount among them is precision, accuracy and explanation of the results. When it comes to these particular studies, the question comes back to a couple of things: are these people thermodynamic anomalies, changing what we thought we knew about the human body, or are the experiments flawed because self-reported data is unreliable. Thankfully, further study has consistently pointed out that the second option is true. When fatties were monitored closely, they either continued to lie about their caloric intake and activity level, or they were honest and lost weight. That's the truth in every single case I've seen studied. Science relies on continuing to ask questions, not just blindly accepting something that seems to contradict current knowledge without further investigation.
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>>35608947
So you basically have done nothing... nice
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>>35599111
Dubdubtrips check'd nice one
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>>35608947
Turn it up anon, cut the awful foods too. I was you and I'm on my way to getting /fit/, I'm currently 60 lbs down from my heaviest and losing.

Go to the gym every day and do a half hour of cardio, no excuses. Cut the fast food and sugary sweets, no excuses. You can do this.
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>>35608947
I do too lol
These are the only interesting threads on the board as well
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>>35608947
>two days ago
Keep going
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