At what age did you realize women aren't worth lifting for because they can never replace the unconditional friendship of the men in your life?
When and why did you stop trying to be Alpha?
>Me, 22, today.
I dreamt about these two characters from Independence Day last night for whatever reason.
I remember thinking "Man, they have the bestest of bromances going on. They love each other, they can talk feelings, they can joke around and they'd take a bullet for each other".
Rest in Peace.
Dude, it's good to create bonds with other men. But it's also good to be around women, not so much looking for a solid relation ship.
You should try to have sex with them, but don't go after them.
I work at a coffee shop and there's these two cops that come in on a regular basis and they have the best bromance Ih have ever even seen. I can't help but mire.
Treat them like they're normal people.
> 2015 + 1
> niggers on the internet still saying JD and Turk didn't have the best bromance in all of fiction.
No joke tho. I'd kill for something like that...
>You realise bromances are just what women want right? It's like slash in real life
fujoshi detected. I have one question, and one question only.
>who's your OTP and why isn't it Sterek?
Don't be 'fabulous', I've got a few good friends who I never considered their sexual preference until they told me that they are actually gay.
Its the flaming Queens that want everyone to know their gay which straight guys will tend to avoid.
>> niggers on the internet still saying JD and Turk didn't have the best bromance in all of fiction.
Scrubs is fucking pleb tier, which is why I don't give it a second thought in discussions like these.
Anyone get the feeling only men can love men in a platonic way, and women will never be more than sex objects?
Wow, I didn't realize so many men feel the same way I do. This is extremely validating. Thanks
Maybe because I'm American and only people who say shit like in the OP are either closeted gays or really bitter towards women. I have women in my life who I'm very good friends with.
Yeah, it's like society pressures men into denying it, but friendship between dog and man > between men > grill and boy friendship.
Because most people are weak ass conformists... or american
most women* but this
They're trolling or stupid. Look pic related for male friendship example.
how to make friends if you're a depressed, socially retarded idiot with resting asshole face?
I don't know about morale but I keep on hearing shit like this not only here but from other people I actually know. Do you think this is because their women or our society does not equip women with the tools to understand these things?
Just to clarify, I am bitter. However, I absolutely don't hate women. I'm just starting to realize that trying to get the approval of woman is relatively pointless compared to having strong male friendships.
I'm actually starting to make it too. However I'm also realizing that [making it] isn't really making it.
>be sad that i dont have many friends and my gf is ugly
>start working out and reading philosophy
>at around 21 realize i dont want women, drop them
>at around 23 realize i dont need friends, drop them
>at around 24 realize i dont care for the respect of my family and relatives, drop them
>at around 25 realize i dont need a successful career, drop it and live frugally in my own apartment, taking odd webdev jobs
Any moment now I should be realizing I dont need to live. I am already starting to rationalize it. Natty, too.
fumi suzuki nana
As soon as "I made it" I realised that while having someone to cum in and be all cutelike with, nothing beats common interests, problems and humor, which are qualities I most often find in male friends, rather than in grills.
This, and I also have a naggin feeling that men are better all around than women.. But I could never say this in public.. obviously.
when i was like 18 or 17
i sent my best friend a message asking if its possible to love a friend in a non sexual way more than possible to love a girl in a sexual relationship
his girlfriend thinks im gay but i think its possiblr
>at around age 30 realize you can't be happy alone, you've cut contact with everyone who cared about you 5 years ago, and people are a lot less reluctant to make new friends at age 30 cause they all didn't tell theirs to fuck off and so have enough friends already.
Buy a cat.
Hey, why not get another one?
My apartment complex doesnt allow pets. And while the companionship is nice from time to time, in 90% of cases the pet will be annoying to you while you are trying to do something.
Age 27-28 (so quite recently). I'd given women a try in my 20s having missed out on them in my teens. Last few years though have proven to me that they're incorrigible cunts though.
Good thread op, I do more and more
>be in a rut in life
>24, new town, shit job, no friends, no life
>feel lonely, hit up online dating
>find women to fuck
>find men to fuck too (no homo)
>now 28, made a few friends, much happier
>meet woman who I would have dated, she broke things off though
>realise that I'm fine without a relationship
>enjoy my life
Nah my dog just watches me when I do stuff and knows to stay out of the way, like a silent companion always pushing you forward. Then when I feel I should give back or want some cardio we play or run. Watch my dog spot for doggy feels.
I feel you, brother. I dated for a couple years until I realized that I was actually happier single. Sex is nice but it's not worth all the baggage. Hanging with my bros and talking philosophy is far more satisfying than listening to my gf bitch about her day. I could barely have an adult conversation with the last gf.
I know this feel
probably why I train so much now, dont have friends to waste my time. they all stopped calling after dating cause they decided pussy was more important than friendship.
fuck them, who needs people like that anyway. im going to keep training and be a better man than those fat fucks.
>tfw no gf to have 2deep conversations with
>trying to be alpha
You either are or you aren't simple as that brah
>have an awesome bro who is as close to my common interests as possible.
>we are able to speak our minds 100% freely
>we're always trying to one up each other, but always on the same wavelength
>I'd take a bullet for him.
Why are there no women like this?
I've searched high and low for a woman who is interesting to talk to, yet the closest I've gotten was a psychologist friend who had an interest in religious paintings. Yet every time I tested her knowledge, for some reason she got offended.
For fuck sake woman, I'm curious to see how much you know, not to embarrass you.
Too emotional. Are there any non emotional females out there? I'd love to meet one
Women hate it any time men find something other than women that gives us happiness. Whether it's video games, or porn, or bromances, women hate it.
Do you have any idea what it would do to the gender role structure if men valued male companionship as much as female companionship? The entire way our society is structured is based around the fact that men want women more than anything else. If that goes away, men no longer have a reason to give women preferential treatment.
If more men thought like the OP, female privilege would instantly collapse
>Women hate it any time men find something other than women that gives us happiness.
>i've never talked to any women in my life ever
you're so far gone you can only think in memes brah
I've got something to share in this thread
I'm friend with this dude since I'm 11 years old, now I'm 22. Since highschool has ended we see each other on holidays and every 2 weeks at a mutual friend's place, and talk everyday on facebook or text messages.
We went with friends on summer holidays and had to sleep in the same bed, since we were 6 and had to stay in the same small place during 2 weeks.
He has fucked like 20-25 girls already, and I trust him when he talks about it, but something strange happened last summer. One night, after drinking and smoking pot, we went to bed and as I was falling asleep i felt something touching my back and hips, then my hand. Since I wasn't brave enough to confront him about this I just acted like I was asleep and went to take a piss, then came back to bed.
And he asked me if I was asleep before going to the bathroom or not : I lied and said I was. Then he said he hoped it won't ruin our holidays and more.
I never talked to him about this, I still see him every week or so, we are planning to do a roadtrip to germany in march ( I'm frenchfag ).
I really don't know what to do, because he is my bro : I kinda feel the need to clear this out but I also don't want to ruin our friendshit and getting this situation so awkward that I can't even look him in the eyes after confronting him.
Wat do ?
Guys I lost my virginity today and I'm sort of having a crisis. I'm 20 so it's nice to have the virginty thing off my back but it wasn't a pleasant experience.
Like, I got to this grills house, we fugged, then I left. I felt very empty as I finished, and it didn't even feel that good. What's worse is that it was her first time too so she was all weird and clingy about it. Is this common? I could barely look at her after I finished.
Yeah what the fuck is this shit? I swear most females will think a guy is gay at the drop of a hat. When i first started dating my girlfriend she would joke about me being gay with my best guy friend, after that grew tired she now just believes my best guy friend is gay all on his own.
It's as if theyre threatened by male friendships.
No one usually has a positive first time story, hell mine i was half drunk and went limp within seconds.
You spent the better part of a decade thinking about this moment and nothing could have held up to your expectations so you're probably adjusting to it now. It will feel better when it stops being new.
If you like the girl even a little i suggest you ride it out and enjoy yourself, dont overthink things, you're young and its just sex, dont run away from it.
Begin socializing in a group setting.
Don't do anything one on one for a little while. If/when y'all do something (just the two of you) be highly proactive to respect personal space and keep the conservation topics away from gay stuff/sex.
Then they'll mellow out having learned you're not trying to bone em/get boned by em.
>women aren't worth lifting for
This is correct.
>they can never replace the unconditional friendship of the men in your life?
You've clearly never had a platonic grill pal who you can bro it up with.
>As a gay man, how I do I make friendships with other men without them thinking I want to fuck them?
dont act gay you faggot
there's good reasons why most decent gay men stay in the closet - not having your preference for cock interfere with friendships is one of them.
If you're not trying to fuck them, then your sexuality isn't important. If you don't drop it into conversation until after you've known them a while, they won't assume you are expecting them to either tell you you're barking up the wrong tree, or say the same and get down to the buttstuffing.
Also stop flirting with them, homo.
Knew this girl for a long time, identical interests, start friending her. We're good friends for like a year or two, make a move. She finds it too awkward and cuts me out of her life.
In turn because we both share a lot of friends she gets them all and im basically shunned by my social circle because I made a move on a girl.
Few of the friends swing by and hang because we're bro tier, but they're basically like "sorry dude, just she's basically told everyone you were a massive asshole and people went with it"
pretty soon i have to find a new social circle, can't be arsed, two years later i just don't give a fuck anymore
girls are complete cunts, I have no time for them anymore unless they're the type of girl who doesn't do drama/talk shit about people
ex military and basically every job ive ever worked women have been below par or utterly useless, they're basically baby machines as far as im concerned and the small minority are bro tier but they're basically gold dust/unicorns
there's never been a point in history where women have had it better or easier, and yet they still act and behave like complete cunting children
I'm 32. I can't stand the company of women. I hate how all my friends always insist on bringing their girlfriends or wives out to every bloody thing we do. It fucks the dynamics, and most womyn hate me because I treat them like children because they show the intelligence of children. Also, I also don't tolerate fats very well - I try to be civilized but I mouth off a lot.
Jesus Allah. Maybe Islam has some merits. I loved living in Saudi Arabia for a few years for the simple reason I never had to interact with women or my friends' wives/stupid ass girlfriends.
And no I don't even want to sleep with them. I am non-faggot gay
of all the things said in this thread, this is the most true
women crave attention and anything that takes that away from them they hate
majority of gfs/wives i know hate video games
I realized right before I turned 22. I have a lot of female friends and acquaintances and I never could find anyone I would date. Everyone was a little too fat, a little too ugly, a little too dumb. Once I met someone who is perfect for me, but they were too beautiful. That's when I realized I'm not lifting for girls anymore. It was like chains were broken and my life was suddenly much easier.
>tfw going back to college
>tfw moving to a different country after college without worrying about relationships
>tfw never having someone tie me down