What's more important to you? strength or Aesthetics?

>>35594235
Aesthetics, by far. I personally don't care at all about strength. I have barely any applications for that in my life anyway.

>>35594235
definitely aesthetics

Strength. Cant look good if you don't lift heavy

>>35594235

Strength. I'm dying alone, so I only have to impress myself. Liting heavy does that.

Strength of course.

>lifting more than most people with better form
>I look DYEL skinnyfat while they're shredded and twice my size

AAAAAH FUCK ME I HATE EVERYTHING

>>35594235
Strength. Helps having it when you work a blue collar job.

>>35594235
I'm personally a fan of strength, but I'm not going to gain 200 lbs and trade in aesthetics for it. That said, I'm not about to focus on hypertrophy and stay a weak shit just to look good.

>>35594235
Aesthetics via bodyweight exercise I guess.

Strength in solitude means gut, shit cardio, and a narrow minded vision on fitness

Aesthetic means you have to round yourself in strength, cardio, and low bodyfat. Aesthetic is much more athletic and worthwhile.

Aesthetics, obviously.

>>35594292
>he fell for the natty lifting meme

You can't get muscle if you're not doing steroids.

P-priapus?

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Both, to be strong and aesthetic. I don't know why people think you can only have one... are they unaware?

>>35594276
zyzz only benched 100 kg.

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>>35594529
When I first started SS 3 weeks ago with no prior gym/lifting experience I started out benching 110kg, I'm at 125 now.

>>35594546
Found the fatass

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>>35594292

You're probably deluded. Whats your 1rm on your squat and deadlift?

>>35594235

Overall for strength, but i'll do a hypertrophy cycle in a few months, then back on to strength training

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>>35594529

>>35594516
Of course you can have both, that's why he asked what's more important.

>>35594529
there's a vid on youtube of him benching 130kg and he had a horrible form in terms of performance

>>35594546
no you didn't, stop lying

>>35594292
How long you been lifting? Unless you've been blessed with godlike genetics, you're gonna have to wait at least two years, maybe a little less if you're getting enough sleep and eating right, before you start looking like the dudes in inspiration threads. Or you can juice, up to you.

>>35594529
That's still a lot senpai.

Step one, get to 1/2/3/4
Step two, cut
Step three, get to the 1000lbs club
Step four, cut

Definitely strength, because it's the only thing I was naturally talented in

>>35594556
You know that most advanced Powerlifting cycles have hypertrophy blocks right? No need to switch programs m8

>>35594613
>100kg bench
>A lot
Why is /fit/ so fucking dyel?

>>35594683
It's a fair amount even for people who look decent if you're only 140-150lbs and normal height.

>>35594613
Not...really
It's okay for <180

>>35594709
It's not ok for any male lifter at any weight unless they've been lifting less than a year.

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Literally nothing more /fit/ that JJBA. Everyone wishes that they had amazing Joestar Jenetics.

>>35594722
>http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/BenchStandards.html

I think actual kinesologists know more than some roiding fuckhead like you.

>>35594669
What routines are you referng to? I'm genuinely curious

I'm running jim's Beyond 5/3/1. I know there are better routines out there, but i'll stick with this one for now

>>35594709
Normal height is like 5'10, 140-150lb at that is skelly

>>35594512
Mah nigga

>>35594785
It's low bodyfat aesthetic without roids mode.

Keep in mind everybody who thinks they're 5'10 is probably more like 5'7.

>>35594512
Not Pirapus. Same artist though. Mentaiko. Has some stuff fit would like.

>>35594823
no, 150lb is fucking small unless you're like 5'2

>>35594859
Let me guess, you've been 'bulking' for the past few years, right?

>>35594747
>claims I'm roiding because I bench more than 100kg
Fucking hell /fit/, you get worse every time I venture here.

>>35594871
Let me guess, you're a skelly who thinks he's "aesthetic"

I was Skelly at 6'1 140lbs but
150 was just sorta skinny. and
160 was otter mode.
170 was a beer belly,
180 was omg i need to cut.
190 is fuck Christmas.

>>35594747
In what world do these standards hold up?
Since when is a 425lb bench at 320lbs+ an "elite" bench?

>>35594235
Strength, easily. I mean looking good is great and all, but there's just something about being strong. Makes me feel like more of a man.

>>35595034
This. Makes me feel better that I'm stronger than models who only dehydrate themselves.

>>35594622
This desu, boardshorts had that 1000lbs club, he was plg and started test cycling when he was already big.

Most people at plg look big and lift really fucking heavy, even the natty ones. I know a couole of guys irl that are powerlifters and look quite good, there's this guy that is switching to BB and has started juicing to get cut, but he already got the mass.

I prefer strenght, but I'm not retarded. I just add acc lifts for hypertrophy.

>>35594235
>What's more important to you? strength or Aesthetics?
Strength but I'm trying not to look fucking horrible

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>not believing the most important thing is being strong enough to defend any QT while also looking good

>>35594928
my nigga DYEL? you can easily be lean at 6'1 170-190 completely natty

>>35595195
the diff between 2/3/4 and 100lbs is only about 50kg or so

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>>35594546
fat obese cheating piece of shit

Endorphins.

>>35594235
If the pic is meant to be strength vs aesthetics, the dude on the left is stronger and more aesthetic.

>>35595456
Wife had a baby

Aesthetics, show me one time short of a carefully described crisis I need to be wildly strong, being aesthetic you will be stronger than most weebs you see on the street anyway but the reverse is not true for strength as the multitude of fatty "powerlifters" on fit can show you

>>35594529

zyzz wasn't aesthetic

>>35595791
And?

>>35595817
Babies make parents fat.

I was lifting for strength and got bored when I stalled. I recently started lifting for hypertrophy. However, if I could look super dyel and lift monster weights, I would because I think it's funny.

>>35594894
>door
Bye

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>>35594284
are you me?

>>35594235
what anime is this from?
n-no homo.

>>35595841
Don't eat the babies anon they're just empty calories

>>35596301
But Jonathan Swift told me to.

Aesthetics. I want to be proud of my body. Really couldn't give a shit about strength.

>>35595987
Weak faggot

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>>35594284

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One is impressive to old men in a gym, gets you fat and unhealthy.

The other impresses the whole world, keeps you fit and healthy and builds discipline.

Gee, which one would I ever choose?

>>35594495
fuck u don't try and trick people with this shit
kill yourself

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I've pretty much come to that conclusion, that most of the pple here are delusional about aesthetics and strength. I've always done mostly compounds and trained for strength, yet i look better than my friends who do BB stuff. I just have better genetics and i keep my bw between 10-15% all the time.

As long as you have genetically narrow hips and wide shoulders, you'll be aesthetic as long as you add muscle in some way. Its just funny to have a shoulder day, when your OHP is something like 1pl8.

I pretty much only do lateral raises, chin/pull ups and ab work aside squats, diddlys and bench/OHP

>>35597640
You have some good shape but it's obvious that you are not doing much isolation.

>>35594622
This is a lie, I'm DYEL.

>>35594292
A-are you me?


Strength for me, I just make to sure to add in a little accessory work for shoulders, abs and back.

>>35594943
>Elite = An athlete competing in strength sports. Keep in mind, the standards shown in the tables do not represent the highest level of strength performance possible.

>>35597672
Its still not time for that IMO. Adding isolation will just fuck up my progression, and i'd rather add basic muscle mass as long as i can. When i start to read advanced+ lifts, i will need more accessory work to progress, and at that point those lagging muscles will follow up.

People are delusional about this too. Thinking that you really need accessory and isolation before you even reach some serious muscle mass.

>>35594235
Why has the guy on the left pissed his pants?

>>35594235
Strength, but I only value it a certain amount over aesthetics like, I'm not the type who would put on a lot of extra fat just because it meant I would have more muscle underneath like really heavyweight powerlifters do or even just putting on a ton of muscle or anything.

Also I'm going to dump some anime I really enjoyed that I think is /fit/. It's pretty subjective but I'll do my best.

>>35594292
>>35597697
>Doing compounds that involve more technique and leverage abuse than actual strength
>Jerk and explosively lift said weight without focusing on the muscle

Oh why oh why are you not getting swole?
>

I'm super vain so I really want aesthetics, but I really can't give up training HEAVY FUCKING DEADLIFTS
It just feels so goddamn good.

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Kuroko's Basketball/Kuroko no Basuke/Kuroko no Basket

>>35597791
Well I had a 105kg bench, 157.5kg squat and 180kg deadlift at 70kg 5'10.
Not expecting to be swole mang, but I'm literally full on DYEL.

Oh well, bulking at the moment so gonna get strong as fuck.

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Hajime no Ippo

>>35597791
Also

>jerk and explosively lift

That's how you get injured.

>>35597832
You would be dyel and weak if you'd done "aesthetics" program. And thats because you didnt EAT. There's no muscle gains if you dont fucking eat.

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Free! (Normally I wouldn't include this since it's not so much focused on the sport, training, and intensity as it is drama but it's one of my favorites, everyone is super cut, and it's really gay which I think is /fit/ appropriate.)

>>35597848
Just got a stupid maintenance calories, and fucked up twice by bulking too hard.

>2800 maintenance at my weight and height

The fuck

Yowa Pedal is /fit/

TTGL is top tier /fit/ anime

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Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann (Not about sports or muscles but my favorite anime of all time and it's inspirational and hot-blooded so I think that's good enough.)

>>35594894
He claims you're roiding because you're being a stubborn retard who thinks everyone to be decent should lift at least as much as you do.

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best one coming through

>>35594897
skellies are more aesthetic than fatties. and i'm 5'9" 182 lbs.

>>35594235
fuck. this made me break my noporn streak. had to look up like 3 doujins. mentaiko pls.

a-at least no-fap is still going

>>35596382
Why no one laugh at this joke?

>>35594235

If you're natty strength = aesthetics.

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6'2", 185 lbs

I'm DYEL to /fit/ standards, but normies and grills find me good looking either way. All compounds by the way

pic related

>>35594276
Confirmed for fat

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>>35594235
Grappler baki it's ridiculous but in a good way

>>35595034
You have daddy issues
"More of a man"
Fucking kek>>35595034

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>>35600219

>>35600235
Fuck you
Get your T levels checked you low test fuck
Go eat some fucking red meat
Fuck you fucking betas
When will they learn???

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>>35600258
lol this lowtest 60 year old deadbeat flexing so hard after his resistance band pump
srs

>>35600289
You with me or against me brah??
If you're against, you probably won't make it brah

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>>35600346
go back to the misc scoundrel

>>35594284
This might be me. When I break a PR i get more happy when I get mired or see some aesthetic gains...

>>356003>>35600351
Inb4 you have a Idc account and are also red
Redders gonna red

>>35600033
you look pretty strong

but i agree, fit standards are high and you are shit here

It's taken me almost 2+ years but I can manage 1pl8 OHP, 3pl8 squat, 4pl8 deadlift moved off the ground but I couldn't clear the knees. I still need a little more for 2pl8 bench.

Anyways, i've been on SL, ICF, Madcow, C6W for my for these 2+ years and I didn't start seeing real aesthetic gains until Madcow/C6W.

I'm thinking of switching to PPL after I hit a 2pl8 bench/4pl8 dead.

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>>35594235
>Berserk
Read it first, watch old anime second, movies third/last
And why not both strength and aesthetics

>>35594529
Incline bench, yeah

There's a video of him doing 50kg/hand dumbbell flat bench so it's safe to assume his flat bench would be 110kg+

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Sy6YxhZZSk
1:10 for dumbbell

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>>35594235
Upper body strength, lower body aeatherics.

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>>35596382
Seriously, look at >>35600033

I have no goddamn idea how your average man can NOT weigh 190+, and all these idiots who go "omigod like I need to cut because I'm a little girl" are just...

I'm 6' and just a hair under 200. Yeah, I don't have the best definition in the world, but on the other hand I hardly look thick. I've got some vasc going on in the arms and legs. Mostly though? I'd say I look only a bit more built than what I'd consider "normal". So guys my age and size who weigh something like 150-170, and can't bench >200 for reps... I'm sorry, are your muscles made out of marshmallows or what?

>>35600371
lol faggot

fit is much better than misc

>>35595433
>lifting != fighting

Get a load of this retard an his shit tier cardio

>>35594235

currently lifting 325lbs on squats and diddlies ( I know deadlifts are supposed to be higher but I fucked up an progressed too fast.) 200lb bench. This is from about 2 months of SL. I run in the mornings on workout days and I'm looking juicy. holla at that, isolations are for mexicans and punjabi pajeets

>>35600410
Are they still in the boat? ;_;

>>35600517
That's simply a falsehood

>>35600684
How the fuck do people progress so fast on SL? I started last Feb and switched to madcow in July and have been stuck at 180 bench, 220 squat, and 230 diddles for months. Do I have low test or something?

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>>35600840

I'm 6'0 ,are you tall? do you skip workouts? Form check?
maybe your mental game is weak.

I have a tiny bit of high school background in strength training so that might help a little.

>>35600840
>>35601017
It's none of these, the missing component is food. Guaranteed. Eat if you want to get strong, and by that I mean be in a caloric surplus every single day, 500 over maintenance

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I just want to be BIG, I don't care if I have ripped up abs

I mean big and strong, want to get up to 275lbs at 6'5

>>35601039
It's not food because I've gotten fat twice over the year, I weigh and track everything I eat with very few cheats and have missed maybe 5 days of lifting total (injury/sickness/finals)

>>35601017
5'11 turbo manlet, don't skip and I record and watch every set. I like 50 gigs of me lifting

Why is no one laughing at my modest proposal joke?

>>35594235
Endurance is most important to me, aethetics second, strength third.

>>35594235
Strength

>>35602089
you're terrified of the weight

>>35602816
Wait actually? I thought that was a good /normal thing

>>35602973

your fear is holding you back from being an explosive dude. Probably also causing you to lose tension.

>>35596295
it''s from gay Japanese cartoon porn

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>>35594235
I just KNOW from the artstyle that the img is from some gay manga or something like that so, spit it anon, source?

>>35594235
Which is more important to you?
Aniki or MASTER?

>>35594722
found the manlet

Why do stubarms think that bench is the end all of strength. it's a meme exercise that ruins your shoulders

>>35594546

sure mate

>>35597640

this
mother
fucking
this
delusional motherfuckers

aesthetics because you still acquire strength while lifting for aesthetics

sure I might never deadlift 6 plate, but I'm still by far the strongest person among my group of friends.

>>35600730

No they got off the boat last month or so.

>>35594622
1/2/3/4 is the 1000lbs club unless google is adding it wrong for me or maybe I'm just retarded

>>35604218
DEEP
DARK
FANTASIES

strength.

only betas list for muh zyzz aesthetics

>>35597871
Yes. It's even pretty homo.

>>35604614
225+215+405=945, 1000 lb club doesnt count ohp

>>35594546
>3 weeks
>benching 110kg
>no prior gym/lifting
sound like one fatass in my gym, came there to lose weight, after 1 week of doing cardio he stopped and start weight training, withing 3 week of benching 4 times week he benched 100kg easily for reps. still weight 150kg and look like shit.

>>35594235
Tried to go for aesthetics for a while, until I found out that my chest insertions were shit.

>tfw you'll never be a sick cunt

>>35594471
This.

>>35594235

Physical fitness. I started lifting to lose weight and look better, but also because I wanted to be able to DO more. I want to take up rock climbing as a hobby, and I won't be capable of doing much but diddling my dick if I don't keep working on myself.

>>35597640
your friends do not know how to lift and are not making gains

>>35600033
well you have darker skin, pretty much easy mode to show off muscle def, thats why it not really impressive

>>35594546
This could be believable. I think powerlifter Brett Gibbs said when he first stepped into a gym at 16 or something he benched like 120kgs (it was that, 100 or 140). Benches like 200 now

Personally, about 6 months of pushups and home shit, first time I stepped into the gym my max was 30 and now I'm still struggling to hit 100. Stuck on about 95kgs for a 1rm :(

>>35594471
Is this what /fit/ actually believes? I stopped lurking the misc years ago because of this bullshit and now it seems like /fit/ hasn't evolved much beyond this bro mentality either

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>Mentaiko, well-known yaoi bara artist, as the OP image

I'm dying, /fit/ continues being the gayest board. Thank God.

>>35594722

> less than 2% of male population can bench 100 kg
>hurr do you even lift faggot

>>35594235
I try to do both.
I do my compounds 5x5 and my isolations with higher reps and sets.

Strength is just useless, no matter what you fat squat pigs say. Its just for ugly fatasses that can't train hard but sit on their ass for +5 minutes after every set. You're just jealous because pple who train for aesthetics look better, get all the girls and can eat like normal people

You guys just dont have what it takes, you can never be part of our legacy fuaaark, keep forever mirin' haha

>>35600684
>not doing isolations after heavy compounds

enjoy being strong yet dyel at the same time

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>>35609301
>mfw tempura sushi

>>35594785
>5'7'' manlet
>friends are 5'9''-5'10''
>i've got (small) tits and gut while they are all skinny
fml

>>35610428
(and we're all about 140-150lbs)

>>35609744

You literally have no idea what you're talking about.

>>35610438
Fat powerlifter mad

>>35597640
Not bad to be honest family

>Lift for strength
>End up with little more than otter-mode with above-average lifts
>Buddy is much stronger but looks like skinny fat dyel
>Feel like I'm lying to everyone with my body.
>That I don't deserve my body with what little strength I have

>>35611076
Just enjoy it.
Feels good to look good.