How does fit feel about rice? I'm getting mixed info, what's the pros/cons to white rice and brown rice? Or is it better to go as far as disregarding rice altogether? Does /fit/ any preferences?
appreciate the witnessing
Last i checkd this was /fit/ not esforce bucko
That outer bit is the bran, which has most of the health benefits of whole grains. Removing it also removes y-Oryzanol and phytic acid, which lower cholesterol and protect against colon cancer, while also being antioxidants
Oh boy. Typical of paleo, they misconstrue phytic acid as a bad thing, when it's really one of the better things about brown rice
They also try to make out the fact that brown rice has fiber and GI-lowering enzymes that make starch digest slower as a bad thing somehow, that it "intereferes with proper digestion" because all the glucose doesn't enter your bloodstream at the same time
Paleo is tards.
i dont even eat rice, barley and hemp wheat teste much much better in soups and are far more satiating when on a cut.
eat whatever fucking rice you want, if you eat all your veggies and fruits you proably dont need those little antioxidants and fibers.
>As expected, we confirmed the well-documented inhibition of tumour cell growth by high levels of InsP6 (≥100 μM) (summarized in ). In addition, we show that low InsP6 concentrations (1–50 μM) stimulate growth of lung tumour cells.
Sounds like eating lots of phytic acid > not eating enough phytic acid
Circulating concentrations of someone on a mediterranean style diet are around 0.394 μM
At low concentrations, it boosts cell growth by providing nutrients (inositol and phosphate). At high concentrations, it impairs growth by starving cells of minerals via chelation. That would be expected to impair processes requiring high rates of cell division, like wound healing and vascularization after exercise. Not a very targeted therapy.
There's some confusion going on with the conversions here. The other study measures in absolute μM of phytate dripped onto cells in a dish, then this one is measured as mg/L in peoples' blood and urine
I don't know what you mean by absolute μM. To see antiproliferative effects the culture medium needs >= 100 μM. Do you not know how to convert between the two units or are you proposing some kind of massive tissue bioaccumulation above what you would see in the bloodstream?
A bit of both. I'm not sure how you're converting from a set amount in μM to mg-per-liter, or how you're thinking that it's something you could directly compare and infer things from these two different kinds of study. Both papers go on and on about the anti-cancer effects and importance of consuing high-ip6 diets, so I don't get the impression that the conversion is accurate or relatable.
>Rice, white, long-grain, RAW
Amount Per 100 grams
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 0.7 g 1%
Saturated fat 0.2 g 1%
Polyunsaturated fat 0.2 g
Monounsaturated fat 0.2 g
Cholesterol 0 mg 0%
Sodium 5 mg 0%
Potassium 115 mg 3%
Total Carbohydrate 80 g 26%
Dietary fiber 1.3 g 5%
Sugar 0.1 g
Protein 7 g
>Rice, brown, long-grain, RAW
Amount Per 100 grams
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 2.9 g 4%
Saturated fat 0.6 g 3%
Polyunsaturated fat 1 g
Monounsaturated fat 1.1 g
Cholesterol 0 mg 0%
Sodium 7 mg 0%
Potassium 223 mg 6%
Total Carbohydrate 77 g 25%
Dietary fiber 3.5 g 14%
Sugar 0.9 g
Protein 8 g
they are both shit and I bet that there are people that hate on bread but love white/brown rice
while it has worse macros
>white rice while bulking
>brown rice to cut
nice memelogic there
Brown rice has more calories and only 1gram of protein per 100gram RAW more than white rice
don't give advice when u don't even know what u are talking about
"≥100 μM" is the molar concentration of a substance in the cell culture medium. You can convert molar concentration to mg/L if you have the molecular weight of the substance (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=phytic+acid+molar+mass) using the molarity formula. Plasma basically bathes all the cells in the body, the in vitro equivalent of this are culture media which typically use something like FBS (fetal calf plasma without clotting factors) as a base.
This is the standard means of converting between in vitro to in vivo models eg this random paper
using plasma concentrations of amino acids in humans after a meal determined in this one
Unless there's some kind of bioaccumulation or active exclusion of substances going on like with the blood-testis barrier or blood-brain barrier, etc it's pretty accurate if the differences between the in vitro and in vivo levels of the drug/nutrient/other substance are as drastic as this.
And just to be clear I don't doubt the anti-cancer properties of grains or phytate. It's just very biologically implausible for dietary phytate to be doing anything directly toxic to cancer cells outside of the GI tract. It could be enhancing immunosurveillance by supplying inositol (as shown in some supplement trials) and helping that way which is much more dose realistic.
Well white rice is basically pure sugars with hardly any nutritional value.
But at least brown rice has some fiber and other stuff in it.
I'd say no white rice period, and brown rice in moderation. Unless you're bulking, then all bets are off.
>1/2 cup quinoa
>1/2 cup steel cut oats
>1/4 cup dried fruit
>bring to boil, shut off, cover and leave on stove overnight
>heat and serve the next day, refrigerate the rest
>add protein powder, peanut butter, whatever
Five days worth of breakfast at ~175 Cal a day before adding protein. Cheap as fuck - a couple dollars, tops, if you buy in bulk - quick, and tasty.