Who here is actually close to being a hermit? I see all you people who complain about the feel of no gf, but from what I understand a lot of people on /fit/ at least have had some gfs in the past. How many actual kissless, hugless virgins here?
I am kissless and haven't held hands with a woman, though I remember hugging one. At 19 I am 5'5, so I consider my chances of acquiring a gf remote. I actually genuinely do lift for functional strength.
I wake up and attent my classes, then I return my dorm and shitpost, then I go to the gym, then I shitpost again, and then go to bed. This is my life. I know the names of like 10 people in the entire class. I have no social life.
Anyone here who is worse than me? Please share. I keep seeing people with friends getting depressed over the gfs who left them, and feel like I am the most pathetic person here.
And by the way what do you do for big forearms?
I was a hermit for over 10 years, still kinda am but I'm online dating so I see girls sometimes.
And don't make excuses, there's a 5'5 guy dating my ex, you just gotta put yourself out there.
just quit being such a loser
ask what your friends are doing later
I've fucked bitches, they've told me i'm very, very good. But today i have few friends and i don't see them often, i stay at home preparing stuff for work and studing, work out, do house chores, browse 4chin, go to the market and watch mexican telenovelas. I live with my mom and i have a cat. 2 years and a half of no fap no porn. Still suffering anxiety.
there are many reasons someone might be a hermit unrelated to how successful they are with women.
In a sense I am worse than you as I do no scheduled activities outside my house.
I have had two relationships and have hugged women outside those relationships. I've always had a lot of female interest, but I have an auto-immune disorder so sustained activity is hard and I end up inside a lot with no real outlet or long-term options. If I was living in a major urban centre I'd be ok I think, but I'm out in a remote town with hardly any energy.
Still, I think I might be close to curing my auto-immune disorder so I have high hopes and until then I have a lot of spare time to lift and think and study.
>Still suffering anxiety.
have a read of this article.
I have no friends Anon.
At least you have fucked things.
Damn that's terrible. Good luck with the cure thing.
I console myself with the fact that I am healthy but who knows, everyone might end up sick one day.
Not a virgin by any means but I'm basically a complete hermit right now.
I have school, work, and the gym but I haven't had a girlfriend in like four years. I moved to a big city in the south a couple years ago to get away from a shitty life in a small city in the midwest and started college here but I'm thinking I might move again because the city I live in just excruciatingly hot about 8 out of 12 months of the year.
So to reiterate
>26 years old
>No college degree (yet, going full STEM just to make dat cash)
>Only activity outside of school and work is lifting
>Spend every night alone surfing the internet.
My life kind of blows at the moment.
Dead hangs always work for me.
I'm the same as you dude. Except Ive progressively shut off contact from friends due to wanting to focus on my lifting entirely. I enjoy the solitude, though extremely occasional 1 on 1 outings with friends are enjoyable.
6'1" 203lb KV here
I've entirely given up. I'm fat and weak and I don't deserve a woman.
I know one guy at university, I have a gf for more than two years that I maybe see once a month or something, I have my parents that visit when I have time and my brother and his gf. I work out regularly at home, go for a run occasionally, have my hobbies and studies.
That's my whole life. That's all I care about.
I used to hate it, but at some point I learned to appreciate the simplicity of the life I have. I know exactly what's important to me and I rarely spend time with stuff that is not important to me. I didn't notice it for a long time, but the way my life turned out is not due to my lack of social skills. It's because I always wanted it this way. It's not lacking anything, it's as close to the bare essence as it gets.
It's a good thing.
Lost virginity at 15, but was kind of an outsider in school and had an abusive family, and it all went downhill from there. Been mostly a shut-in for about five years now. I only come out for work and guitar and language courses which I take for my own sake and interest. Have radically increased my lifts the last year, but barely even felt the desire to touch a woman, and most of the people around me I just find boring.
For big forearms, you do weighted chins and wrist curls.
>go home, prep meals, eat
>do computer work
gave up on my friends cause they gave up on me, after getting girlfriends. so im all on my own.
at least my gains have been great.
I've tried everything, but the only thing that helps is paxil. Thanks tough, i'm checking it out..
dress basic but classic
realize that there are billions of women out there and that almost everyone is programmed the same. They're just a different looking body that holds their brain. Almost all women I know have just as much social anxiety as anyone else, they just get approached more because that's the way it's supposed to be. You get nowhere by being passive. Don't build them up and give them any more credit than they've earned based off your prior/current interactions.
you'll make it
so if you're healthy what is it that's stopping you?
>every night alone on the net
so why is that?
we're all going to make it, just have to stop being a little sad cunt alright? we all have a little bit of zyzz in us... you just don't know it yet.
>Ive progressively shut off contact from friends due to wanting to focus on my lifting entirely.
that doesn't sound very healthy, though.
we're all going to make it, bro - no more being a sad cunt alright, be a sick cunt, you're a sick cunt if you want to be brah.
nobody deserves anything bro at the end of the day, no-one knows why we're here but at the end of the day bro life is better when you're a sick cunt mate.
>barely even felt the desire to touch a woman,
I recommend abstaining from masturbation, worked for me.
why don't you make some new friends?
Im kissless virgin but im not upset desu. I dont like being around ppl anymore so now everyday i simply get up, eat my meals, lift, sleep, repeat. I hate ppl nowadays, i wouldn't mind if i was alone in this world. I've met good ppl aswell but I prefer to be alone, i have no need for a gf even though im 18 and testotrone is finally kicking my ass. My life is strange...
I've been a hermit since I've entered grad school in 2014.
>make some new friends
im done school, and I dont use the gym to socialize
honestly have no idea where i'd even meet people. feel like im destined to be by myself at this point. go to a bar? everyone is with their friends, noone wants some random loser to bother them.
Don't use the manlet meme as a excuse. I had a friend who was 5'5 asian, acne ridden and legitimately ugly. I very rarely deem another man ugly unless its painfully obvious. He had the confidence of a Chad Thundercock though so he pulled more women than most anyone I know. Social skills are a skill. You just need more practice.
put yourself in a situation and break it down to basic needs.
You're at a bar and alone.
You don't want to be alone, otherwise you wouldn't be drinking in public.
You want someone to talk to.
Just because you're a weeabo and want someone to talk to you about anime, doesn't mean it's what she wants, but maybe she does want someone to talk to her about something she's interested in.
So you say hi and find out what they're into.
Give them an incentive to talk to you and buy them a drink. Ideally something that takes longer to drink, like dark beer or ipas, not just a shot, but make sure it's something they like.
Basic needs man, basic needs.
Try talking to anyone you see regulary at the gym of whereever and get to know them. Maybe they share your interests. If they do, you have something to talk about. Next time you could even hang out! Whoaah Its literally that easy.
just google events in your neighborhood.
Its easier if you live in a city for sure.
There are a couple groups in my city that run pub nights, things like trivia night or board game nights.
Events designed to have random people step in and play. sit down, play a random game with a random person. Plus its at a pub so get drunk and its easier.
do you live in a major urban area? if so, you could try meetup.com to see if anything you're interested in is happening - I went to a psychology discussion group and a couple of lectures through that before I moved out to this remote town.
otherwise you could look around for groups or activities which you could meet people through. I met some people through volunteering with the local environmental movement, gardening and so on - as well as getting involved with some local activism.
In short, find a social activity however you're able to. Other than that, you're down to making conversation with randoms. I've been stopped in the street before a couple of times, so even leaving the house can do something. In fact, two of my closest friends for a long time I met because they came up to me randomly and said "oh we thought you were someone we knew" and then kept talking to me, kept in touch etc. until we were friends.
I'm very extroverted by nature, but during the last two years of high school I kinda withdrew from social life due to mental illness. I just sat at my computer for 15h+ aday. Made some really good internet friends tho, still talk to them.
I got on meds and started lifting and now I'm almost a normie again.
Some people aren't cut out to be extroverted anon, my best friend is a total recluse and only hangs with me and one other person, and he's totally comfortable doing so. I need to talk to people pretty much all the time so I can't imagine living like that, but it works for some.
Try finding a few friends within your hobbies. If you don't have any, get some. It can be fucking video games or sport or whatever man, just get out there
>Girls I dated when I was chubby - 8
>Girls I dated since I became a greek statue in flesh - 0
I talk about stuff I've done the past week, girls I talk with and like, new music ive found while drinking a beer or coffee. Sometimes we meet at a event or a store or w/e so theres something happening and you dont got to talk all the time.
but going to social events alone makes me a loser. what am I going to do, stand around awkwardly?
thinking about doing some volunteering this spring, currently focused on training hard though. I give up on bars, it's just too depressing for me. I see either people having fun with friends, or old people drinking by themselves, alone.
girls are way more friendly now, I know it's because I look better. so I might as well focus on the gym, as that is indirectly helping me socially.
an anon with experience in sales shared something I thought was useful in another thread, something along the lines of ask someone about themselves, repeat what they've said back to them as a question to get them to elaborate.
>How's your day been?
>Not good, really.
>My boss is really getting at me.
>He's giving you a hard time, huh?
a lot of people just want to talk, so the less you contribute the better. Once they're done talking, tell them you can relate (he said even make up a story but I don't recommend that).
>I know that feeling, my boss used to... (etc.)
>tfw the cutie i was just seeing (8/10 face, 8/10 body and going for her phd) ended things with me
it doesn't matter, highs and lows are relative to one's self, we all have to deal with shit
Pretty sure I got you beat.
>never had a job
>absolutely 0 friends or acquaintances
>left my house a handful of times in the past year.
So yeah I'm pretty much ready to kill myself.
I am a mostly a hermit.
Not a NEET on any level.
Multiple degrees, military training, and jobs.
I hike regularly and am only a lightweight body builder. I know I can lift heavy since I did while I was in the military.
I have almost zero interest in social interaction.
I think I may have low test, as it's effecting my sex drive at this point.
>going to social events alone makes me a loser
Some of them it's fine, I'd happily go to a board game night alone. That psychology discussion group I went to only one person there had brought a friend, the other three or four people hadn't.
>stand around awkwardly
Not always such a bad idea, I went to a local film group a few years ago out of interest and thinking maybe I'd socialise. There was a drinks and snacks thing afterwards and I "stood around awkwardly". A young man about my age at the time came up and started a conversation, I don't remember the content but it didn't go anywhere and he moved on and I continued to "stand there awkwardly" and then a qtπ girl pops up and starts talking to me, we hit it off and I was friends with her and her sister until I moved away. It was always a little awkward like I always felt a little outsider in their group but I liked them both a lot and I enjoyed my time with them, going out to clubs and dancing with them, hanging out in their house etc. all from standing around awkwardly.
also like I mentioned here >>35569431 I met two of my closest friends who I knew for years and still could catch up with if I hadn't move away - entirely through standing for no apparent reason in a public place. I think it's worthy a try leaving the house and looking approachable.
real life hermit, checking in. 28 yr old, even been engaged once.
most of the tfw no gf talk around here is lulzy.
i've dated plenty of girls, had plenty of meaningful relationships with the opposite sex. almost even got married
this is just my lowly, humble opinion, but relationships just tend to cloud people's psyches, rational though processes, and at the end of the day, personal development goals.
whether youre aiming to improve your body, your job, your pay, your outlook etc, it's really hard to find a woman that shares that same level of drive and determination. it becomes a point of contention that i spend so much time working hard, so much time at the gym grinding, and so much time studying for continuing education shit, because i want to be the best that i can. However if i earned a shit wage, didn't have the body of a greek god, and couldn't wax poetically about a broad range of subjects like a cultured lad, most girls wouldnt be interested at all...top kek
for some reason, the white, weathly prats that i seem to attract cannot understand this concept - they expect everything in life to be handed to them with no real effort invested bc theyre just so damn special n loved. its far to easy for them to just jump to the next person that adores them - they never have to actually intrinsically better themselves to unlock other levels of consciousness or development.
so keep your heads up lads. its not all rainbows and orgasms out there with women...
oh n deadlifts, farmers carries, bucket of rice hand squeezes, captains of crush grippers (ironmind)
how do you even find places/events like this to go to? I feel so out of place at a bar by myself. I wonder "why am I here", and then feel like leaving. plus I have to drive which means I cant get smashed. local bars here suck.
Every time i talk to someone i suffer because i donn't know what to say or do to make people enjoy being with me. It's just too difficult to figure out how do people normaly behave.
I'd fuck you anon. You make my girly parts tingle.
I'm 18 and I've never kissed a girl or had sex. I've been lifting for 9 months and my progress so far is great, I'm not skinny fat anymore. So far the only girl that has been thirsty for me is my friends girlfriend. She gets all up in my face whenever he leaves the room. I don't do anything, I wouldn't betray a brother. Why are women are such whores senpai?
jeans and shirts on a casual day. I often wear suits when I go out, but also can go with a half-casual style as well. I don't think my problem is in my clothes.
I have almost no game (well I had some American pussy already, but I had a way better results back in my country) since I moved in US, so I guess women here have different standards of beauty or something, because grills back there were miring me on the streets all the time. Here - nothing
meetup,com had about three or four interesting groups in the area I was in at the time (major UK city). I'm having a hard time remembering where I heard about the film society...
I would look on the internet, also in cafes sometimes they'll have a notice board with flyers showing events. I've never used a bar and I've only been in clubs when others have taken me out.
It's hard to come up with suggestions without some idea of where you live. I would look for wherever there are notice boards, it might be a university even - sometimes they'll have events open to non-students.
Variety of reasons:
1. introverted and depressed since I was like 10
2. no kids in my neighborhood
3. moved around schools at critical times (every time I get comfy enough to have a normal life I get moved to another neighborhood/town/whatever)
4. physical and mental abuse from my brother, neglect from parents
5. video games & reading act as on tap escapism from all of the above, so fuck it
Im 19. Attractive. Have highish paying job. And I spend my weekends with my mom and dad.
No friends and no motive to make friends with this world full of asshole lieing cheating lazy dumb cuckuldeded normies.
My weekend literally consists of long gym sessions, hanging with my mom and dad (whom I love very much) and runescape
Yeah I live alone
Learning through trial and error is tough. If it's the basics you struggle with then I imagine there are resources, online guides etc. which might help you with the bare bones structure of conversation.
I will say though that the idea of "making people enjoy being with you" is maybe making it harder. A real conversation is made by two people, and you can only do your half - you can't control it all.
First of all, height doesn't matter as much as you think. I have a friend who is 5'4 and has no problem getting girls. I'm not going to say it doesn't mean anything because I would agree that your chances of getting a 6'2 girl are significantly reduced but who cares? There are tons of short girls out there, and I try for those (I am 5'8.)
Chances are a girl isn't just going to come up to you and say "wanna be my bf?" because generally girls do not take the initiative. You have to make it happen.
Go up to people and talk to them. Anyone, really. Guys, girls, ugly, good-looking, fat, skinny, it doesn't matter. The more people you know, the easier it will be to make friends, the easier it will be to meet girls, and the easier it will be to get girls (whether it be to make your gf or just to lay.)
You Will Get Rejected. A lot.
Everyone is different. People won't like you and that is ok. Don't take it personally, especially with girls. Some like to be bitches for no reason at all. Just brush it off and keep going.
I hope I helped in someway and good luck
Complete hermit here. Basically all I do is:
Spend money on tailors and barbers despite the fact I'm not leaving home more than 8 hours a week, making that kind of redundant
Drink coffee all day cause I'm afraid to sleep
try to start no fap no porn, quit after 3 to 5 days
read about masturbation to see if it's healthy or not or effects "luck" in any way
Think about talking to a girl I've met but never do it and feel depressed when I "lose" her
No real incentive for me to stop living like this because I have enough money to live off it forever
>mfw I'm fucked with no escape
>mfw I want to break this cycle but can't
I'm 24, live with my girlfriend, and I have a job that doesn't require me to leave my flat often. I only ever leave my house for work, to get groceries, or when I go to the gym. At home I just play videogames and lurk 4chan in my spare time.
Who else /fit/ introvert? Sometimes I question why I work out because I hate the attention I get in public.
I was a kissiles hugless virgin until i was 24 then i started taking gear and i went full zyzz mode. My confidence was sky high i went clubbing every week and i fucked a different girl every two to the weeks for about three years until i got traped in a relationship now I'm back to that miserable cunt i used to be.
you'll hit a point where you just say "fuck it" and just see what happens. If not, talk to your doctor and say you've got serious anxiety problems and it's fucking with you. You'd be surprised at how some meds can help that. Or do some research on nootropics and their effects. I know phenibuit helped me with anxiety in social situations and it's pretty cheap.
sounds like you've got your shit together and have a decent amount to talk about. Just lose the one-itis.
I guess local styles and trends affect it a lot. It might be worth looking into American men's fashion, a lot of women seem to romanticise that stuff. The long-hair, beard look is "in" and it's something I like anyway. It depends on how it suits you, though - I'm an angular nordic so it suits me well.
I moved out of my parents house at 25 and have lived as a recluse in my apartment for 4 years while I go to college. I talk to people at work and school (school not so much) yet I never hang out with people and spend all non-school/work time by myself.
When I think of a hermit i think of those crazy bearded dudes living in a cabin in Alaska and that used to be the life I wanted for a while (with internet access of course) and now I don't know what the fuck i want.
My friend who was a virgin until last year (21) is both a manlet and a skelly
If he can do it, there's hope for you all sad fuckers.
Atm I'm total hermit, most friends busy at uni and I got my own essays and shit to do, so don't really see anyone outside my course and senpai
>girls do not take the initiative.
they do sometimes, though often it's in extremely subtle ways. I've twice low-key shown interest in a woman (looking at her often, not too often etc.) and then she's walked in front of me and I've been hit by a wave of perfume, so I think that's one way they "take the initiative".
More info on how you became independently wealthy? Inherited? WIndfall investments, ...?
>haven't had a friend for over a decade
>still live with parents but only really see them when i have to use the bathroom or eat
>do nothing except work out, browse the internet and various other hobbies
some of that is solid, but I caution everyone to avoid the "take up every invitation" and "don't be too picky" - it's VERY easy to end up with a social leech and they can be really hard to rid yourself of. If you're a shy, accommodating individual like me you could end up wasting a lot of time at least and ruining your life at worst. Do not neglect your instincts in terms of who you like and respect. Learn to say no, and don't sacrifice your self-respect for social success.
>it's a lot of effort and stress
as I see it, if socialising is stressful something is "wrong" either with you (low-tolerance of stress springs to mind, and there are ways to address that) or something is wrong with the type of socialising you're trying to do. I don't buy that someone would "naturally" find socialising stressful, it's like a cat finding chasing birds stressful - it should be instinct as an activity even if you have to learn specific habits for it (listening, being attentive etc.).
the hardest part is finding reasons to go out.
I can lift cause it's a solo activity. But if I want to meet people I need to find a place people socialize, break the ice with people, and face potential rejection.
one good thing about focusing on the gym is it allows you to make great progress. making social gains is harder than any lift though, imo.
right, that's true - I emphasise the exceptions mostly because I think a lot of men don't even consider that a come-on from a woman can be as subtle as her standing in your line of sight.
>decent body (been lifting for almost 4 months, things are going well)
>only have one problem: acne
>literally have burn victim-like scars on face
>scars all over back/shoulders + cystic acne still
>can't take accutane because of GI condition
Just fucking kill me. I have almost every piece, but my fucking acne is holding me back. It gives me a shit ton of anxiety, and it makes talking to girls all but impossible. It just fucked my shit up senpai
>reasons to go out
I only have one, sex. Other than that I'm happier alone. It is a real reason, though. If you're still masturbating it might not be as high in your mind as it is in mine.
>I need to find a place
I've used internet and notice-boards mostly. A local library might have information about volunteering (road-side trash pick-ups, soup kitchens, talking to old folks). Even your gym might have information about yoga classes or dance classes or climbing gyms.
>break the ice
To an extent you can rely on others to break the ice for you - it limits you obviously but ideally it shouldn't be one person doing everything in the conversation either way.
it might happen, all I would recommend is not to take it personally.
>harder than any lift
maybe if you apply the same approach you've taken to the gym your success will translate. You have to leave the house to have a social life CMON.
Honey worked for my seborrheic dermatitis. Honey is anti-fungal, anti-inflammatory, anti-bacterial and a humectant.
A quick search shows the above link, it might be worth a try if you haven't already.
>no social life
>lifts for functional strength
is that you clerisy?
i'd like to make new friends but im not sure where to start. even if my social life has stagnated, at least i've made amazing progress in the gym.
I try going out and being in social situations, like malls/restaurants/etc, but I just find it too hard to approach people on my own.
maybe when I reach my fitness goals it will be easier. I dont see why a girl would be interested in a guy that isnt rich or really fit. im fit, but not at the level i'm happy with yet.
If you have bad scarring I recommend looking into enzyme therapy - probiotics, enzyme supplements, fermented foods.
Scar tissue should, under ideal conditions, be carried away once it has done its job, from what I hear the reason it so often isn't carried away is a lack of enzymes. As I understand it the western diet is deficient due to cooking, cleanliness and soil depletion.
I'm taking an enzyme supplement Neprinol to treat multiple conditions of mine that I have reason to hope it might help with. It's advertised as helping with scars. I also recommend looking into fermented foods though I haven't tried anything other than miso yet.
dude it seems like youre still at school
its SO easy to meet people, including girls
and your height isnt a problem if you get out of your head. yeah maybe you wont date someone 5'8, but you can DEFINITELY get a girl it's not impossible.
go climbing. girls are SO hot. builds psychological strength. every school i think has a place
if you go to a big school theres clubs for everything
people love outdoorsy people, theyre all chill and girls say they want an outdoorsy guy even though they probably really don't. those types are probably really accepting
so join the climbing club or something jeez man in 4 years your chances of becoming a hermit explode.
I am. I get seasonal lay off in the winter.. 4 month paid vacation essentially. I have my weight set and my computer.. I eat lots of greek yogurt.
going to get the mail is a big event in my day.
I think you should look into fixing your acne for yourself but when it comes to a relationship it doesn't have to hold you back. It might make it harder but it isn't a be-all, end-all.
After you get a girlfriend, you'll understand it's overrated.
Save yourselves money, and just hire a hooker, less expensive and clingy.
I'll look into that. Thanks, anon.
I'll look into that too. Honestly, the scars don't bother me as badly as the cystic acne does. Any tips on how to get rid of that? I'm pretty sure it's genetic for me...
I wish I could think like that, but I've always thought that if a girl had my condition, I'd be repulsed. So how can I expect a girl to not be repulsed by me when I'd do exactly that if the roles were flipped?
If find socialising stressful and it is because there is something wrong with me. That's why i need paxil. If it wasn't for that pill, i would live in a permanent state of panic attack. I would say i respect myself enough to not go to the hoods and try to socialise with a gangsta, i would like to socialize with healthy intelligent people.
It's not about the virginity though for most i think. It's going your whole life feeling like you're incapable of being loved, like you're this unlovable bastard that no one wants.
approaching someone in public is one of the hardest ways of socialising. It's a lot easier to make conversation if you're somewhere where people come to socialise like a club or a group.
>why a girl would be interested in a guy who isn't rich or fit
a lot of women are interested in a lot of different men for all sorts of reasons, and sometimes it won't be any particular reason but just "they like you". I suggest meeting more new people, which leads to:
>i'd like to make new friends but im not sure where to start
the internet, notice-board - clubs, groups, activities. maybe voluntary work. Another alternative is if you have a creative interest - music, photography, poetry you can meet people through myspace or modelmayhem. I met some people through poetry groups I used to go to where everyone stood up and read out poetry they'd written (I was into it at the time).
>Is this your solution to everything ?
it is honestly relevant to so many things, relaxation helps anxiety, stress, illness, even adding muscle is easier if you're able to really relax when you're at home.
>as I see it, if socialising is stressful something is "wrong"
This may not actually be true. In todays capitalist social focused world its tough on introverts, but you need to understand alot of people are introverts and that this personality type exists in large numbers for an evolutionary reason. Most likely introverts in a tribal situation dont have the problems we do because they grow up with the same people their entire lives, which is basically the situation where introverts thrive (long term geologically compulsory relationships).
If it's an auto-immune disorder (a quick search shows some speculation that it is), then in my own attempt to sort out my auto-immune disorders I concluded they might be caused by sensory integration issues. This is when the sensory system is unable to process the signals coming from the body to regulate its own processes. It can't "hear" the heart-rate, or the breathing rate, or interpret where blood pressure is - so over time you end up with chronic fatigue, digestive imbalances and maybe even outbreaks like cystic acne. Until we have more idea of how much of the body's system is reliant on sensory information working right we can't rule out even seemingly unrelated things like cystic acne or crohn's disease.
So if it is sensory integration issues the way I have started to resolve that myself is through reintroducing natural noise into my environment. I listen to birdsong which in my research on it has some special relaxing effects on the human system (see link earlier in the thread). My thinking is that humans are probably adapted to need a lot of sensory stimulation from the environment in terms of the sound of birds, leaves rustling, the sight of a lot of movement as there always is in nature. Then we end up sitting in a small room with silence looking at a small screen. It isn't surprising if we end up with haywire sensory systems. Listening to birdsong is a small and easy change in that direction, spending time outside in nature would be another.
There is another plausible cause of sensory "blunting" which is the over-stimulation of the motivation pathway in the brain. This seems to be pretty common, most of us have compulsive activities whether it's eating, masturbating, internet use, smartphone use etc. I think the solution might be to see the whole thing as "over-stimulation" and to reduce those activities until we're not so chronically over-stimulated anymore. So reduce the technological stimulation and up the levels of natural stimulation.
When I was in high school I used to go play chess with the old men in the park. Probably not exactly what you were looking for but it's conversation nonetheless and typically the older chess players provide good counsel. One of the most well spoken men I met was a 50 year old man subsisting off of small bets in NYC.
>how can I expect a girl to not be repulsed by me
I think the key is not to expect one way or the other, to leave it up to her. If you never meet people it's never an option for someone to surprise you. I met someone with what I think must have been acne scars and I was very attracted to her. I find I'm always harder on myself than I am on others.
>be me 26 5'6 kv
>shy all my life
>managed to be the joke guy in a drinking group after high school
>few years in realize they werent going to help me get laid ever
> turn into a neet hermit at age 20
ive just recently gotten back into working out daily, it has improved my mood but then i signed up for online dating and got nothing in over a month.
im convinced ill just never make it as a normie, what a shitty feeling
I'm not a fan of psychiatric medication, I was on something to cure my anxiety and it wasn't until I came off it that I realised the anxiety attacks I was having were caused by the medication. I had been having "real" ones before, but they'd obviously gone while I was still on the medication, and I was still taking it to treat what it was doing.
It's hard if you have panic attacks, I found they went with time, and the same has been said to me by other people. Other than recommending birdsong again, and sensory integration, I'm not sure what would help. It may be that you could look into enzyme supplementation - I have heard that anxiety is sometimes caused by inflammation in the blood due to build-up of debris - and the enzyme deficient western diet would leave someone open to that type of issue.
Kissless wizard in training
Handful of friends from school that I don't really see anymore
Went from telling myself that I didn't want a relationship to genuinely not wanting one.
I'm not saying it's the most "in", but it is one of the acceptable variations. If anything, as a less obvious trend it should score you higher with more interesting women than the average trend-hopping plebeian.
It's the people with no sense of personal boundaries who I think are dangerous. The crippling social inhibition as seen in this thread is a sign of over-consideration if anything, which only hurts the shy individual.
Because our entire economy currently is based on people being shuttled all over the place in search of jobs. It doesnt matter as much to the lower class but to middle class or military families its the norm to move 2-3 (even more for military families) times during childhood, which depending on timing can be crippling for introverts.
My parents are in tech and they moved me 4 times before I hit college, each time was right when I was starting to make some headway into real social groups instead of the 1-2 friends we normally get by on. Then bam, back to square one. This isnt even counting friends moving away from me, which is just as bad if its one of your close friends.
Some personality types do fine in modern society, but for some its incredibly harmful.
Add to this that middle class families generally inhabit sparsely populated cultural wastelands (suburbs) and you get people who are just completely fucking lost when they grow up.
so why is it that introverts thrive when they're around the same people?
I suspect that what you mean isn't introvert but shy - introvert is a specific type of cognitive processing.
Kissless virgin here. Live with my parents. Go to classes. Go to gym. Come back home maybe browse /fit/ and sleep. Never considered a gf ever for several reasons.
My time is already tighy id inagine id have to give up some hobbies for her.
Also scared she will laugh at my average penor so dont wanna bother.
I just moved to a new city for work. Ft. Lauderdale is nice and there's a shitload to do, but I just don't know anybody yet. Plus, I can't be too friendly with my coworkers, because I'm managing all of them.
Making friends is much harder after college than it in during college. I really need to get regular with church...
Introverts have low social tolerance, but over time you can develop friendships with people that work regardless. You're still not going to act extroverted even if you grow up alongside a few people and you are part of the social group, but they understand thats just who you are instead of assuming youre a dick because you dont seem to want to talk much.
When you are constantly moved and deposited into new social situations over and over in your life, and you dont have time to form the long term low intensity bonds that are just about the only thing introverts can maintain, you get fucked.
Obviously this is just my wild ass guessing as to why Im super unhappy based on my own experiences in life, so whatever.
Its normal to be depressed, its not normal to STAY depressed. I've been depressed since I was around 10-12 years old (now 35), for reasons like:
My brother constantly harassed me
My parents didnt do anything with me except demand I do chores and homework(was basically raised by TV reruns and my brother's constant assault)
My school was boring as fuck at first and basically put me to sleep for 8 hours a day, by the time it started being challenging I was so far behind and had so little interest in life I didnt give a shit
Through this all I would escape harassment and monotony by leaving the house and walking around in the woods behind my house, turtling up in my room and reading/watching tv/playing with toys (alone of course), so basically I had (if I could escape my brother) a constant source of escapism.
So basically my life put my brain to sleep and taught me to delve into fantasy to avoid reality.
On top of this from the time I was 3 or so people I loved were moved away from me or I was moved away from them, over and over, until I just gave up around 3 years into college. I havent had any good friends since then even though I can pretend to be normal enough to socialize. I just cant keep long term friends, and if there is any distance involved the friendship is pretty much over unless they play alot of video games.
If any of this sounds familiar I suggest you get the fuck out of whatever situation you are in, because you're going to be miserable for the rest of your life unless you change.
>honestly have no idea where i'd even meet people. feel like im destined to be by myself at this point. go to a bar? everyone is with their friends, noone wants some random loser to bother them.
Thats not true, assert the situation first, someone might be on their own and doesn't mind some company.
Pick a bar you like and get to know the bartender, this makes it less awkward to sit alone. After a few times you'll get to know other people as well.
what if you take the typical "strong, silent type" man, they manage to be successful, to have short-term hook-ups and long-term relationships etc. despite not wanting to talk much - or is that something you think is a social myth? (I don't have experience but it seems like it does happen)
Im sure it does, but there are typed of introverts who are able to fluidly deal with social situations and there are those who are just ruined by life, personality is a spectrum with alot of axis, and some people get screwed pretty hard (just like there are extroverts who are terrible at long term relationships due to drama/idiocy/flightyness).
>there are typed of introverts who are able to fluidly deal with social situations
my approach would be to ask what makes them able to do it, and is it something which you're able to learn or rediscover in yourself.
my initial thought is they must have a successful "low-interaction" social style - if there is such a thing then it might help other introverts.
Ding ding ding. Being an introvert doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't put in the time and effort to learn social skills or maintain friendships.
Introversion and extroversion describe social tolerance, which can be described pretty broadly as the level of scratching needed to cover the social "itch". If you are an extrovert, you have high social tolerance and thus you have a big itch to scratch, but if you're an introvert, you only have a tiny lil itch that rears its head every so often.
This lends itself directly to the distinctive socialization patterns you see in intro- and extroverts. While extroverts will seem to gain energy from social interaction, introverts will seem to be drained by the interaction and will need to recharge somehow else.
If you are lonely, learn to make small talk. It's not so hard, and it's an incredibly useful and fun skill.
>my initial thought is they must have a successful "low-interaction" social style - if there is such a thing then it might help other introverts.
I think some people get pulled into social circles via women, so "strong silent types" get basically roped in by ladies and become part of their group and spread out from there. Ive had the opportunity with girls who clearly liked me, and I could have been social with them, but Im a living pile of trash and didnt do anything about it.
if only I could get it together
I have a decent dick, 7x5.5
im well educated
and im fit...but crippingly shy. as in, approaching girls. I have no issues talking with them once the ice is broken.
one day anons
I think your understanding of what introversion and extraversion are is a little off - it's a widespread misconception so I'll set it straight:
Introversion and extraversion according to Jung's original formulation of the concept are two ways of orienting yourself - introversion is a primary orientation towards "psychic contents", and extraversion is a primary orientation towards "real world contents".
Someone with an orientation towards psychic contents is necessarily primarily unsociable unless you want to suggest there are other people inside your head. Extraverts are not necessarily sociable, however - unless you want to say everything outside yourself is people.
To illustrate, image-related is a self-description of an extravert: everything is external and real-world. If she had said "I like being lost in my own fantasy world" or "I like reading" or "I'm always day-dreaming" that would be introversion.
source: I am a largely solitary extravert who thought I was an introvert for years until I learned about Jungian cognitive functions.
My own theory is that introverts are drained by social interactions because they are half in their heads and half out, whereas extraverts are entirely "out". As I see it the extraverts move twice as quickly as the introverts and leave them tired out. I wonder whether introverts would be tired by interactions which moved more slowly, or at the introvert's pace.
I dont want to be seen as the type of guy that does PUA shit.
sure, meeting people is nice but if you were a girl why would you want random guys hitting on you if you are just going about your business?
>ask what friends are doing later
>9 hours later receive reply
>"oh sorry we went to lunch then checked out the science museum then went to the movies before eating dinner 10 minutes from your house. You should have come too!"
Well I'm not the greatest at picking up on when a woman likes me.
No way bro. My friend is a really nice guy, I'd never do that to him. Fucking whore, she does not deserve him.
The whole manlet meme is more of a reflection of the insecurities of inept tall guys. That said, 5'5" is rough. Though most chicks just want the dude to be at least a little taller than they are. It cuts back on chicks that will be available to you for some of that fucking.
If you're feminine to pull off being a passable trap you could potentially get girls that way. It's a solid alternative.
I don't use PUA shit. I did trial and error and came to similar conclusions to what PUA's
say. T b h I prefer the trial and error method becuase it's more personal, it's my story.
You're meant to talk to random chicks you like because it could just turn out that could be an amazing chick.
Eg. started talking to a chick on holiday who was working at the hotel I was staying at. Had
some great days/nights with her, swimming at night, ended up making out. All from buying my cousin an icecream
>tfw not socially anxious
>not incredibly shy
>a swell lad with a lot of friends
>still never had a gf
>never kissed a gir l
>never fucked a girl
People are starting to wonder if I'm gay. I just tell them I want to focus on my career not relationship, but it's really the other way around.
>go to work
>occasionally get hit on by coworkers
>dont have any interest in them
>have someone at work make me a sandwich
>at least one customer will complain about something stupid
>lift the next day
>text buddy after lifting because I usually feel happy then
>he's usually too busy to hang out
>play vidya instead
>have a nice conversation
>maybe someday it'll lead to something again
>another day gone by
I interact with a shit fuck ton of people weekly but at the end of the day I go home and i'm alone again, it's nice having alone time but not really long term, mostly sucks on the off days when i'm just playing vidya
I am 5'6, 19, and have a 9/10 latina gf. You're doing this to yourself, anon.
>pic related, it was me the beginning of fall semester
5'8 - 1 year lifting - seeing multiple girls simultaneously.
i hope you guys realize that the problem has nothing to do with being short, being unfit, or any of those bullshit excuses. its a lack of self esteem, social intelligence, and being generally fucking uninteresting. there are literally so many things girls find appealing that have nothing to do with your looks. for fucks sake, i'm 5'9 and weigh 205 lbs. havent worked out in 3 years, its literally all fat. ive fucked 8 girls and am currently dating an adorable asian girl. focus on developing SOCIAL SKILLS and PRODUCTIVE HOBBIES that make you fucking interesting to be around and to talk to instead of complaining all day and making excuses. honestly
Despite having one gf in the past, I'm a far bigger loser than you, and am in hermit mode:
>only one person I'd call a friend, but we're not close (last time I saw her was literally almost a year ago)
>essentially only leave the house to take garbage out on Sunday
Other than my mother and the occasional cashier or waiter, I haven't talked to anyone in ages. Gonna be three years of this in as of May.
Sounds like most of you guys just need a gym bro and and a friend to talk with about stuff in person.
Anyone from Canberra? Ausbro is here to help
I also failed to get friends at school.
I actually made a lot of effort, always tried to be nice to people. But since I was a coward by nature, girl could smell it right away and they would pick on me.
I didn't know how could they see me through back then, I realised that not so long.
>This whole thread..
And here I am just taking a shit laughing at all the story's, like wtf are you people for real?
>being able to sue a woman for anything sexually related
>get along with everyone i meet
>fun but responsible and a trustworthy friend
>get invited to do things constantly
>still hate who I am and don't want to burden people
>prefer to stay at home and wallow in self loathing
>put exclamation points at the end of texts so people don't think I'm sad
>mfw it works
dunno where to go from here anymore /fit/
I'm in the exact same situation as you anon, except female. Tried dating but I think guys just assume I'm screwing them around because I don't explain my situation when I get sick to people I don't know. I hate getting sympathy and most don't get how serious it is because you look otherwise healthy, fit, attractive, and normal, so friends and otherwise take it as an insult when you can't spend heaps of time with them sometimes.
Have you found lifting to have helped a lot?
holy shit, i think you're my soul mate. im an artist, have lots of friends, and am well known/popular in the local arts scene, and i fucking hate myself. im convinced that the only reason why anyone likes me is because they pity me, or are conspiring on one huge joke that they're going to spring on me one day. i also constantly think about past failures, even little ones, like saying something shitty to another guy way back in grade 6. past failures and current inadequacies haunt me day and night, yet people seems to really like me for some weird reason.
the only reason why i ever leave the house is to get groceries, and going to the gym. the gym is the only public place where i feel completely at ease.
not him but maybe you should tell the guys you are dating that you "have less energy". sounds like a mental issue (made up or real) and thats pretty much expected when dating an attractive girl.
damn I couldn't imagine being over 21 and a virgin still. Like I don't know how that's even achievable, I guess j figure even the blind squirrel finds the occasional nut, from time to time.
I'm 20 and pretty much a full time hermit. I go out for food or gym otherwise I just stay home. I'm bigger and better looking than pretty much anyone I know but I have so little confidence that I just stay home and hope things work out. I thought lifting would help me with it but now I'm just a buffed awkward loser instead of a skinny loser
I wish. I just look at myself and feel disappointed that I trained for so long yet haven't even been able to beat any of my fears. I work so hard to better myself everyday and I feel like I haven't reaped a single benefit. I'm probably even more depressed than when I started out training
Not him but I live in Austin/Houston and this year has been especially hot. It just started getting cold. I love it. I'd rather walk to the gym sweaty than shiver my ass down there.
OP I'm manletlet too m8, and Idgaf, I'm 5'5 same as you and my confidence is way up there since I started lifting because I got big. I mean it does help to have an attractive face but that's not all, if you have money or some decent face aesthetics you're gonna make it someday. If you gotta get big to get your confidence up, do it.
>I don't explain my situation when I get sick to people I don't know
It's hard having to tell someone you're sick - it always throws me off when I'm getting on well with a girl and then she asks "what do you do?".
>Have you found lifting to have helped a lot?
I found that eating more (I've always been underweight) helped my brain chemistry (I've always had desensitisation/derealisation). My plan is to kick all my addictions, like under-eating, inactivity, constant stimulation etc. Sensory integration issues are associated with auto-immune conditions like CFS and the other ones I have (restless leg syndrome, etc.), with addiction as an obvious cause of "sensory discrimination disorder" - and I've seen when I approach the problem as an addiction/sensory issue everything changes dramatically, so I have some hope that if I sustain that it will fix the auto-immune disorder. Enzyme therapy also looks promising - the typical western diet is deficient in enzymes and it definitely makes everything harder.
Lifting itself helps me in some ways - higher testosterone levels, more motivation and self-control (which helps with kicking the compulsive habits). I'm often injured, though - that holds me back a lot.
I'm the same m8, I just don't know how to initiate stuff with girls. I don't really want to ask out a girl if I don't know her, and if I do know her I start to value her pinion too much to risk making things awkward
I'm a legitimate hermit. 21 years old, semi-fit, decently aesthetic. Have never hugged a woman that wasn't family.
Though I do have goals that take up all my time. I'm currently trying to become a robotics professor at a top 20 university. It's harder than most people think. I get to travel abroad twice a year talking about my robotic manipulation/path planning research, and it looks like I have a very strong chance of getting into CMU/MIT/Stanford looking at my research publications/recs/gpa. On top of this I have to make sure I stay in a good weight range, so I do hard cardio 3-4 times a week. I used to be a 230 lb fatty at 6 ft, and I've lost 60 pounds so I'm pretty happy.
I think I'm going to go wild for a semester, when PhD admissions are over. I have 0 interest in a relationship, I just want to have sex.
Same boat as OP, 5'8-5'9 manlet living in the middle of nowhere for the next 5 months until I move abroad. The good news is my height is average where I'll be going. At least I'm rich and have good facial aesthetics. Haven't spoken with a girl my age for at least 6 months. Signed up for online dating but those are a racket for plain women to get attractive men.
I am just now crawling out of my nearly 8 year hermitage (~20-28).
As I leave I realize that I probably could have much sooner, but it just took forever for the "spark" to hit and fire me up, so to speak. I try not to lament the lost time, because there is absolutely nothing I can do to get it back. I try not to dishonor it by wasting any more.
Feels okay man. I hope you find it in you to get out earlier than me.
Dude i was exactly same way thinking about part failures. But then my GP put me on antidepressants for anxiety and i never obsess about past failures anymore. Im also way more confident around people now.
I don't care about friends, it is a lot of mess. I just want to fuck girls, have relationships with them and maybe have a girlfriend. I don't give a fuck about friends male of female, just want erotic/romantic contact with women and femmy guys. I always screw it up because i tend to think that women want social males with a lot of friends and exciting social lifes. Is this true fit? Women laugh at you because your a looner?
Have you considered your personality might be a factor? I mean, you sound kind of bitter, the way you're going on about normies. If you assume people are shit, the way you act around them will repel people.
Do you have any hobbies or stuff you do outside of work, too? Generally people want to be around interesting individuals.
Haven't had friends since hs, and even then they were two guys who I talked to every second weekend. Still a kissless virgin even though I'm pretty cut. Lifting just doesn't cure autism.
Being fit isn't going to get you lai. Well it can but Iv noticed talking to chicks is what gets you laid. My brohon is a fat nerd but he isn't afraid to strike up conversation with anyone. Just so happens he has no issues getting laid. Iv asked him how the hell he does it. He says he just talks to them and the girls feel comfortable and then he's in.
Me I lift all the time, fight sports, but I keep to myself mostly. Constantly ready to scrap with other alphas. I don't get hits from chick's like he does.
But Iv noticed when I do put my guard down and relax a bit. When I open conversation with a girl. I'm in and being fit after your in is nice because you get compliments but out side of that I don't think grls give a fuck.
Also, aim low man. Don't try and get some 10/10 super model when you're a 3/10 beta male that can't provide and isn't very original. Shoot for something you feel comfortable getting. Someone you can talk to and get to see you as an alpha.
Not sure if people posting here but my specs:
>Only time having sex once, it was good. Had another opportunity but couldn't get hard.
>Seen only 3 girls naked, sucked on a girl's titties in movie theater once. Was cool
>Six figure salary doing what I love (big plus)
>Lifting one year
>Journalism major (kek)
>About to solo travel to Germany because I have no one to go with, but fuck it, need to spend dat money and find myself or some shit.
>Spend most nights alone playing vidya or surfing internet, don't 4chin that much but i have other vices, porn being the main one and kratom for particularly shitty days
>Fap about twice weekly with porn, trying to cut both out. Longest streak being 29 days when I had a gf
>0 friends in my current city. I have 2 people i could actually call friends in another state, living in different towns. One of them is doing the slow fade on me which hurts because we were tight ever since 08 or so and now he's just cutting me off slowly. The other friend I talk to almost every day through text, he honestly keeps me sane. Every time I have the opportunity to make another friend, I fuck it up somehow, or they find out about my friendless status and don't want to be friends with me (esp. true for girls).
>Don't even date anymore. I was set up with a girl and she seemed really nice, but she turned cold very quick when I couldn't hide the fact that I'm basically a shut in loser (they sniff that shit out pretty quick). I used to not be like this in college, didn't even know what 4chin was, but found it last year and have sympathized with it a lot
Anyway my plan is to say fuck it, spend my money on going overseas and seeing a bit of the world. I'm old enough to know the world doesn't owe me shit (unlike a bunch of people on this board), so I'm going out as a last ditch effort to find a reason to go on. I don't think the city I'm in has anything for me.A man has to make his own way at some point.
Wish me luck, m8o's.
no friends whatsoever. remember going out with friends only once in my whole life in 10th grade and even then i was a slight outsider. kv, 100lbs overweight, 28. college grad but worthless major but in a very boring meh job with low pay, about 20k take home. gambling problem (aka i lose) so in debt. live with mom, if anything happens to her i veer into an hero territory, probably. so, yeah. could be worse guys, use my story as inspiration.
I'm not kissless but I've never had a gf.
I am a bit of a recluse I suppose. I have a close circle of really good friends. I don't do well with acquaintances. Suck at small talk.
Honestly, I just haven't really met that many grills that I'm interested in.
Oh and for forearms, not that I would know since mine aren't huge but. Whenever I bang out sets of pullups I feel the burn in them pretty well. I feel like forearms are all grip so anything that force you to grab on shit tightly.
only read the first 2 sentences, was expecting this to be a glorious thread with an OP who has experienced shitty/depressingly sad ending relationships and decided to say fuck women and all their bullshit.
instead i read on after entering the thread and saw it was some kind of manlet pity party
In intellectual and creative interest groups more so than clubbing or bars, so things like psychology and philosophy discussion groups, photography classes, environmentalism groups. Online dating is another one, maybe Okcupid.
You're 19? Shit...I've been posting on 4chan since you were 8 years old.
> Finish college
> Get any kind of job doing anything
> Keep lifting (very important)
> Don't live by yourself
> Be nice to your roommates, and go out with them when they invite you
College girls are only into guys that have retarded and bizarre qualities. If you're not already a guy who's pulling different pussy every weekend it's a waste of your time.
If you're doing college right, it's supposed to be tedious and monotonous. Then you graduate and you start earning your own money, you're old enough to drink and THAT'S when real fun starts happening.
However, in a couple of years...If you're the kind of guy with a college degree and a job, who lifts weights, wears clean clothes, brushes his teeth, and can smile and not spout retarded shit out of your mouth...you're already an 8/10.
Women like confidence.
Having a degree, having a job, (any fucking job...work at starbucks it doesn't matter) and knowing you smell good are huge confidence boosters.
Worrying about your height is a confidence killer.
You're definitely not the most pathetic person I've met. In fact, I would say the only thing pathetic about you is your shitty self esteem.
Just cross college/job/hygiene off your checklist, and that will change.
>stuck in a uni degree I don't belong in
>embarrassed to go out because I have nothing going for me
>lifting is the only productive thing I do
Cheer up mate:
>tfw turbo manlet steals your crush
>he's literally shorter than her
>she has to slouch on every photo with him to make them look equal
>despite that they will probably fuck soon if they already didn't
Why even live?
count me in
>kissless virgin at 23
>sheltered, socially awkward and introverted
>just want my career to take off
>just started lifting to better myself physically
its not so bad, at least i have clothes on my back and a roof over my head but it's not enough
Former autistic cyborg turned down the road to normiedom going on a year ago now, have worked my ass off to get almost everything I want except a functional social life. I have like, three people I can really call friends and they all live upwards of 500 miles away. To say nothing of the girl situation.
Literal thousands of right swipes on tinder without getting so much as a phone number tells me I'm simply not attractive enough to get results online, which means approaching more girls in real life.
I finally found the courage to go out to the club last weekend. It was fun. Maybe next time I'll have the balls to get out on the dance floor and/or talk to some girls.
I like to think that we can all make it if we really want to. How bad do you want it, anons?
>21 year old virgin
>had 2 drunken snogs, one with a complete psycho who is now a lesbian and one who I later found out did it for a bet for a drink
I know body-wise I'm a 7/10 (6ft4 in decent shape for a natty) and I'm not facially horrible (probably like a 5-6/10) so I should be able to pull easily. Growing up morbidly obese has completely fucked up with my psyche as I was always the 'joke' and whenever I talk to a girl, all I can think about is how fucking worthless I am. I know I need to get out of that mindset but its just so so fucking hard. I've read Model and all the standard PUA bullshit and when I apply some of it I can get half decent conversations going but actually making that first move is just impossible for me because of a complete fear and acceptance of inevitable rejection. I keep telling myself the lie that once I keep lifting and get shredded I'm going to have the confidence to do it, but deep down I know I am incurable. The damage is too far gone and even if I went on gear, women could 'smell' my inferior fatty genes.
>get out on the dance floor
you will be ignored there too but at least it's way more fun than sitting in the corner all night drinking. I usually work up too much of a sweat from going to hard on the dance floor and then I really feel like nobody will talk to me.
I don't want to but living in a small city in fucking BR is hard, everything there is to do is go to sertanejo (equivalent to country) shows and hang out with friends (none of which are girls). I've tried tinder but no girls answer. it's funny, because I set up a grindr profile out of curiosity and got 5 messages in less than 5 minutes.
28.5 years old 5'8 kissless virgin with exactly 3 male friends I only see about 5 times a year and 0 female friends since ever. My life is pretty much work, gym, shitpost and fap, everyday.
I think I win this thread.
I go to work and shit post, then i go home for my 1hr lunch and shitpost, then i come home and shitpost and lift on my flat bench with my single adjustable dumbbell and 50lbs worth of plates, which is located in a windowless basement bedroom in my moms home. Im 30.
Kissless 19 year old virgin here.
Kinda in the same boat but girls have approached me before and even given me their numbers when they see I'm bad at initiating stuff, but I don't hit them up cause of this self deprecating attitude I have.
I'm trying to change it around this year and make the breakthrough in 2016, hardest bit is changing my diet and eating more, as a skelly I'm not used to eating 3K cals a day so when I miss one I just sort of lose my motivation completely. Then start again after a few days. Shit is hard brehs
But yeah hoping to be around 75kg in Summer, I'm 63 now so gotta keep that consistency.
Pray for me bros
I'm 31, kissless etc virgin all that shit. Lost my last friend like 12 years ago, I have two people from the internet I talk to on a almost daily basis.
It is usually an up and down for me, I can go by months where I don't give a shit about anything. Then by some odd miracle I run into a girl somewhere who will give me some of her time. The loser I am I fall for her like an idiot but obviously she is not in love with me.
I know this but just can't help it, I guess the human brain is hardwired to just take over at that point. It will end in bitter tears and anger eventually. Once the tears have dried up my face turns hard again. Nobody needs me, I don't need nobody.
Then I lift and carry on.