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>nazi germany edition
>cow tren best tren edition
>lotteries are idiot taxes edition

stale bread >>35551088
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>>35558284
>Nazi Germany edition

tfw people rage hard when I tell them very few Germans were Nazis and most German regular army soldiers were only fighting to protect their country after their leader fucked up and got them in to a massive war

Kind of like... ah... Literally every other country ever
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can someone recommend me a link to a beginner cycle
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>>35558284
steroids are for manlet faggots
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>>35558346
Reddit steroids
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>>35558396
thanks senpai
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You guys are the scum of 4chan

And not even a comfy general
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>>35558612
I find it pretty comfy here
I can blog post and people give advice or laughs
The fitness and steroid advice here is pretty good too
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Let go steelers!

& gains. Definitely gains.

I forgot how good it feels to be on dbol. Sweet baby jeebus this stuff is the best.
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>>35558747
Lol I saw that reaction and burst out laughing. They got nothing to blame but themselves.
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that shit fucking hurt to watch
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Been on tren for a week. No sides aside other than slightly harder to fall asleep. Where my gains
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>>35559102
Pray you get some. How much you running? I was on 50mg ED and got sides but no noticeable gains. I was salty as fuck.
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>>35559102
>Been on tren for a week.
>Where my gains

Its been a week you impatient fuck. Contrary to popular belief tren actually takes about 10-14 days to "kick in". The gains however are up to you.
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Had an argument with my Lif and were not going to see eachother again. Pretty much been seeing guys behind my back playing me off and she's nlocked my number now lol. I know about one guy that she really likes and she told him that he was the only one she was seeing even though she was also seeing me and a few others. I don't know whether to try and fuck her over and create a facebook account so I can message the guy to let him know she's sleeping with other guys as well. It's not much but I just want to get back in someway
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In for $1.3 billion lottery drawing on Wednesday.

Holy crap.
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>>35559346
Lif should be milf
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What kind of strength gains can I expect from just doing 500mg of test-e a week...this will also be my first cycle and how bad is it that I'm starting test at 19
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What are a normal dose and duration for Winstrol?
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>>35559386
10% strength in 3 months, that's what I got, and 3,3 lbs muscle
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>>35559412
Well shit I better start it now my comp is in about 3 months
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>>35559426
what are your current lifts and stats?
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>>35559386
>how bad is it that I'm starting test at 19
Not the worst, but not the best idea either.
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Some girl just told me abs are gross because she doesn't want to be with a guy thats prettier than she is

lol, >women amirite
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>>35559435
I'm doing strongman but my big three are
>Squat:535 (probably dropped cause I'm cutting atm)
>bench: 365
>deadlift: 635
BW: 235
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>>35559451
I'm considering scheduling an appointment with a doctor to get my blood pressure and cholesterol checked and keep it monitored through out the cycle
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>>35559475

let me give you some perspective

I basically didn't lift for 3 years, started cruising on 250mg test e a week beginning in june, didn't start lifting again until august

old pr:new pr
bench 300:370
squat 405:485
dead 455:570

second deads session back I pulled 505 then 515 easily

put in the time, do the work, eat right and train right, and it can take you pretty fucking far
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Anyone going bald want to go in with me on some chems?

Looking at running the Swiss temple method but need cash.
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>>35559598
Shit works and I know how to mix the chems/have a supplier.
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>>35559346
Messaged him
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>>35559545
Sweet thanks I'm probably going to give them a try and see how well my strength increases
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>>35558284
What pct and during cycle accessories would you use for a 6 week 500mg test 20mg dbol cycle?
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>>35559862
why are you doing a 6 week cycle?
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>>35558337
Why can't more people understand this
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>>35559386

>500mg test only

don't expect anything noticeable, it's a beginner shit cycle for a reason.
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>>35559545
What kind of routine are you doing?
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- +- 18%BF atm

I want to be 10% BF before september

Is this possible?
I have:
Dnp
T4
Tren
Alb
-------

My plan is:
Dnp cycle now cuz of cold weather (2wks)
Natty cruise on test nd t4 + cardio
Tren ace blast in april

Tren e blast in summer


Is this good?
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>>35560011

flat bench
weighted chest dips
db or incline bench
bb curls
hammer curls

deads
chins
kroc rows
close grip bench
tricep dips or skullcrushers

high bar squats
front squats or bb glute bridges
romanian deadlifts
seated ohp
db ohp
lu raises

primary compounds 5/3/1 (bench was 3x5 until this month, lol@+5lb 5rm pr every week for like 4 months)
assistance 3x8-5x15
krocs 2x12 + 2xf with straps

going to change it up a bit while blasting, go from m/w/f a/b/c to a/b/c/x/a/b/c/x focusing on low and heavy the first block then more volumetric for the second with emphasis on greater variety and allowing for targeting of specific weak points like my off the floor for deads
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decision time....

>got on the sauce when my son was about to be born almost 3 years ago
>he died a year ago
>i made some epic gains juicing pretty much year round for 3 years straight
>i'm having a midlife crisis now that maybe i should go off before i can never have a normal life and children again and be stuck on trt for life
>ordered a complete stack of pct gear the other day
>still having second thoughts
>part of me wants to juice harder than ever before
>part of me wants to come off permanently
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does jizmo from gb.com post here?
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How much of this dry look is genetic and how much is it the compounds he uses?

could someone look like that just on testosterone?
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>>35560264
Yes its the lightning showing all the muscle striae.

Low bf, a tan and ttest is what u need
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Tren farts are making me clear rooms.
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Good date idea other than getting a meal?
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>>35560042
you could probably do it in 6 weeks if youre willing to do dnp
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>>35560412
netflix & chill
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where do you guys get your shit?
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>>35560394
Fart in a bank mate
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>>35560412
museum, bitch
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what would be the best to use for my first cycle?
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>>35560534
The fuck Im not walking around a museum. I don't think there are any near me apart from an art museum, tram museum and a sique museum
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>>35560557
Sikh not sique, fucking autocorrect
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>>35560557
take her on a walk through the park nigga, bitches loved being walked in the park
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>>35560546
Try steroids
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Noob question: Does the body naturally make tren/mast/dbol or are they just derivations of test?
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>>35558337
>Nazis get voted into the parliament as majority
>"People rage only few people were Nazis"
Do you know how I know you're a fagget
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What would be better?

150mg test/1g tren a week(current)

vs

150mg test/500mg tren/900mg deca?

>enjoy lactating bro

I don't have that problem on 1g of tren, the low test dose keeps side effects at bay ezpz.
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>>35559615
>>35559346
Stop being such a faggot Cheeky. Did you really catch feels for some old woman.

The moment you react like a child is the moment you know you lost.
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>>35560412
First date, coffee or walk or something similar. IMO you're looking for things with:
>Low cost (Because you don't know if you like her enough yet)
>Short time (Create intrigue and the perception of being busy, without letting things get stale and awkward)
>Public but intimate-ish (Comforting but memorable for most grils)
>People-watching is an alright icebreaker.
>No pressure to make a move - If you're serious about her then you want to create some elements of fantasy and desire first
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>>35560582
cool. i'll run down to the store and buy a bottle labeled steroids.
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>>35560412
As of late I'm taking chicks to a billiard bar for first dates

Gets you in the situation for touchy feely
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JJ if you are out there, in regards to a conversation you were having in the other thread, you might sell more if you use PGP. People are pretty anal about that
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>>35560657
Well I lost lol

>>35560699
Probably just go for a walk with her even though it's cold and shit

>>35560760
You like playing with balls anyway
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Natty here, about to do a quick 8 week cut

is it worth using clen? or would it only be worthwhile using clen if you were trying to get extremely lean?
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>>35560855
How lean are you now?
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>>35560867
im not lean, im at the very peak of a ~10 month bulk

still not happy with my size or strength so i plan on losing around 10-15lbs and then start bulking again
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>>35560897
Clen is more usefull for going from lean to very lean imo
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>>35560546
try google
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>>35560591
the only aas made in the human body are test and dht afaik
p much all the aas you use are derivatives of those two
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>>35561017
Nandrolone is also naturally occuring in very tiny amounts
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>>35561017
>much all the aas you use are derivatives of those two
And 19-nors
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>>35561035
yeah thats true
>>35561042
19-nors are testosterone derivatives
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>>35561060
>19-nors are testosterone derivatives
No?
They are nandrolone derivatives
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>>35561122
nandrolone is a testosterone derivative
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>>35561142
meaning: derivatives of a derivative of testosterone = derivative of testosterone
and theres absolutely not enough of them to warrant their own "group" or whatever, there are literally two
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>tfw only generic ug shit everywhere sold by gymbros
>tfw nobody has pharma grade stuff in east europe
I am torn between robbing a pharmacy and just straight up forgetting roiding at all. What do bros?
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>>35559350
1300 x 0,5 = 650
650 x 0,7 = 455
455 million USA
Benis that is a lot of money
Europoorjackpot goes only goes from 10 million usd to 100 million usd

Also sauce on qt
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>>35561170
Pin ugl fgt
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>>35561183
Shit I guess that's the only way. W..W-hat ever it takes right?
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>>35561170
UGL isn't as dangerous as people make it out to be, and I've never been scammed and/or given bunk gear. I've had underdosed stuff, sure, but that's to be expected. You'll still make substantially more gains and be happy.
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Fucking depressed about losing my milf, not gonna get sex now.
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>>35561170
A lot of the pharma stuff is shit anyway unless you can buy it otc. No point buying Iranian stuff online that's for sure, everything else is hit and miss as well. Probably best going with a well known ugl that's been round for a long time
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>>35561254
are you drunk cheeky?
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>>35561271
No mate
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>>35561201
Do it.

>>35561254
Gona msg festivalgirl tonight.
Fu turk
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>>35561271
He's just a thirsty sucka who's more replaceable than an old pair of tits kek
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does no-fap actually increase testosterone levels or am I suffering for no reason?
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>>35561271
>>35561281
Drunk on l o v e
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>>35561308
not to any significant degree
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>>35561308
You are suffering for no reason
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>>35560438
>18% to 10%
>6 weeks

Dayum son what dnp dosages u talking about?

I wanted to pop a 2 week 500mg cycle
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>on PCT, first week on tamoxifen (nolva)
>3 weeks after my last test-e injection
>libido non existant
>suddenly on day 5 of taking 20mg nolva ED crazy libido ramping up

is this normal? I thought nolva would kill my libido, not the other way around. I'm definitely hornier than natural... not cycle-like, but still definitely higher than normal.
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i know its not illegal roids talk etc but do ECA stackers use bronkaid or is there a better way of getting ephedrine?
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>>35561358
Well yeah.
The point of taking nolva is to boost natty test production
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>>35561357
i lost ~0.5-1 lb/day on 500 mg ED
thad be at least 21 lbs if on for 6 weeks (id recommend splitting up in 2 cycles of 3 weeks with 3 weeks or so of eating at a slight deficit in between though)
if 21 lbs is much less than 8% of your bw youre one big motherfucker
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>>35561386
1lb a day on 500mg dnp sounds like you're losing a lot of water from all the heat. i think thats why fatlifts couldnt keep that up, its not 1lb of pure fat. I think 5lb of fat a week may be possible if you really kamikaze it but it gets much less effective as your body clings to more tightly to the remaining fat as your % goes down.
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>>35561407
5 lbs a week is over what you need if you want to lose 8% in 6 weeks unless youre over 375 lbs
i actually retained water from using dnp (most people do)
your other point is fair, though
but you wont really need 8 months to cut from 18% to 10%
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>>35561407
>i think thats why fatlifts couldnt keep that up
He was just out-eating DNP
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>bro tren loves carbs, totally bro
>1g of tren bro u gona get swole as shit bro
>eat 3000 cals 40p/40c/20f
>get moonfaced as fuck and no other problem elsewhere, no e2 or estro issues

Boy I sure do love being capped at under 100g carbs a day even if I were to lean bulk at 3500.

where the fuck's a guy gonna find some cheap calories after my chicken breasts fill in the protein quota?
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>>35561471
nuts or switch to ground beef. whats ur sodium look like? how long have you been on? are you sure its tren? it could be npp.
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>>35560699
>not just hitting a bar and let alcohol work its magic
>not banging on the first date

it's like you don't even understand dates
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>>35561471

sounds like nandrolone
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>>35561471
Not tren u're putting in your ass
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>>35561471
Trenpp maybe
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>>35561523

I would never doubt pcom.

it's 100% legit tren, people have done labtests on it.

>>35561510

Yeah, nuts do seem to be a good cheap calorie dump.

I had a good amount of oatmeal yesterday, it probably contributed a lot to it.

>300 calories of oatmeal has 60g carbs

fuck me this shit is a trap.
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>>35561523
>>35561530


I get tren sides like night sweats and difficulty sleeping.
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Anyone know if Ausfag is still a source?
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>>35561558
What else are you on?
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>>35560621
>Nazis get voted into the parliament as majority
That was also because the financial crisis. PPL were desperate. They wanted a better life.

Propaganda got to them.

It's like everyone votes for Wilders over here, because ppl are scared for sandniggers/refugees that are gonna rape them, like happend in Cologne recently. Also scared for terrorist attacks.


nazi were supreme, you're just jealeos

>>35561358
i always find it funny when ppl say this.

just wait till the 4th-5th week, when you become asexiual and have suicidal thoughts
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>>35561569

150mg test. I used to do 400-800mg, oh fucking god the sides were insane, body bloat and anger issues galore.

I heard n2guard not only protects my innards from 1g of tren(haven't taken any, I guess it's stupid) but also keeps water retention to a minimum.and other bad sides.

Is it seriously just over the counter shit I can get off of amazon? like, how is this legal to sell compared to shit like aromasin/caber?
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>>35561611
N2gaurd is just milk thistle and other otc stuff iirc.

Aromasin and caber are scheduled medications
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>>35561641

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cycle-Support-Protection-Assist-Capsules/dp/B007HP04UM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1452432756&sr=8-1&keywords=n2guard

I don't see anything special at all here that will protect my organs or keep water retention low.

is this legit or another fakeass supplement shit copying roid names (dekka/testoboozt/trenbalogna).
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>>35561646
n2guard is a meme supplement
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>>35561646
Best cycle support is tudca,
everything else is prolly just over hyped shit.
Milk thistle /might/ have some merit tho imo
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>>35561660
Bro. Two naked girls in my bed, no sex.
:(
I need emotional support. Or to jerk off I dunno.
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Do I still count as a kissless virgin even though the only girl kissed me was some slut that worked at a party-boat that did it for a photo to show that ugly guys can get girls to at their party-boat
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>>35561724
Kek
Probably.
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>>35561743
good I want to, but I still feel impure
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>>35558284
Is it ok to use ostarine between cycles?
Any1 tried it, does it work?
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>>35561684
-_-
send sneaky snaps
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>>35561777
why would you?
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>>35561724
If you got tounge then it counts
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>>35561777
why didn't they gave him more roids?
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>>35561793
I don't remember it was free drinks and everyone passed out right when we came home and it took hours for some to make it home and almost everyone puked and I did it to because another guy did it and I'm sensitive
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>>35561809
If it was mouth on mouth you can say it counts :)

My 1st kiss was with a drunk girl too
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>>35561751
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>>35561809
Was she cute?
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>>35560264
what is up with his fingers?
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>>35561866
>>35561923
yeah she was attractive, she did it for a photo to show that ugly guys can get girls to, luckily the photo was never uploaded
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>>35560167
You're an addict mate wtf, get help.
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>>35561960
>she did it for a photo to show that ugly guys can get girls to
you cant be that ugly if she kissed you

I'd try and get that pic tho if I were you.
Use it as motivation or some shit.
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>>35561955
he's a buttfingerd zyzz dead corpse

>>35560167
JM?
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>>35561990
The wording doesnt sound like jm.
The story sounds similar tho
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>>35562006
>son died
>3 years bnc

he also made a thread about it recently, with exact the same midlife crisis story & picture of him and being on for 3 years straight.

Who else could it be.
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>>35562024
If its him I feel sorry for him.
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How long can you use oral Win?
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>>35562055
He's almost 28 and got a midlife crisis.

wait till he hits 30-40.

He shoudn;t bnc for 3 years straight.

If i would bnc, i would do it for max 1 year and then come off for a while with a power pct
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>>35558626

>The fitness and steroid advice here is pretty good too

Incorrect. Only for advanced users. Everyone else is ridiculed for nor being steroid experts.

This is one of the worst generals on 4chan.
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>>35562110
Thought hes older than 28
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>>35562097
6weeks if youre conservative, you can prolly push it to 12 tho

But after 6 it becomes more risky
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>>35562097
Basically forever if normal doses

>>35561866
>My 1st kiss was with a drunk girl too
Have you even banged anyone in a 100% sober situation
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Does drinking a lot of soy milk (like 700ml a day average) matter at all if you're taking aromasin anyway?

Even normies don't get affected that much, but with an AI I imagine it doesn't matter at all.

Need something that's low calorie, low carb and high protein to blend well with my peanut butter on! powder.

fuck it tastes so good bros you can't imagine.
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>>35560167
Get off and freeze your sperm bro. You won't regret that ever. You can always use more gear later on, but you won't always be able to get more sperm later on. May seem like I'm trolling but I'm dead serious.

Don't fuck up your ability to have a child bro.
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>>35562129
Banged?
Lol no, Ive made out with sober girls like 2 or 3 times prolly
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>>35562119
No, i thought he mentioned he's 27 and will be 28 next month.

that's why i got a midlife crisis.

tfw when you go off and the muscle dysmorphia kicks in

it's real fun, trust me.

BUT IAM STILL 100KG WITH FAT

FITE ME
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>>35562159
>FITE ME
Kk
Only if its play wrestling and you'll let me win :3
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>>35562128
6 weeks at what dose?
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>>35562175
Its really dependant on how you react to it.

30-100mg ed iirc
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>>35562159
u'll get rekt m8 im liek a navy seal an shit dawg i fite ufc
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>>35562133
Plant estrogen doesn't influence hormone-levels in humans
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>>35562203
ok thanks
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>>35561641
Aromasin is prescription only not scheduled, the distinction being that it's illegal to sell a prescription medication without a valid prescription, but it's illegal to sell, possess, or use a controlled substance. That being said stopping people from selling prescription only meds is just about at the bottom of the governments priorities so things like AIs and clomid are de facto freely available
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>>35562282
Pretty much this.

Selling ancillaries is about the same priority as selling amoxicillin to the gov.
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>>35561656
This.

The best thing you can do while using orals or tren is to keep it under 10 weeks and don't do anything else damaging to your liver such as alcohol or Tylenol etc while cycling.

Drink plenty of water.
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Day 3 on suicide cut.

I look a lot leaner but also a bit flat.

Still no hunger whatsover. Yesterday i had to forcefeed the 1500 kcals. As a former fattie, this still amazes me.

Been feeling pretty sick since yesterday evening, might not be related to the cut though.
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How long can you be on roids without risking permanent testosterone shutdown?
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>>35562350
if you look flat just up the tren
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>>35562366
No one knows, thats why some people prefer to cycle.

>>35562407
I want to.. But due to certain circumstances i cannot risk looking sick in the next 1-2 months
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>>35562350
I don't follow /fraud/ threads regularily, what did you take/do to suppress your hunger?
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>>35562477

Cocaine
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I CAN NOT BELIEVE THAT I HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT JANUARY TO START ROIDING I AM SO FUCKING PSYCHED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me5YPPnZJIM
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>>35562477
cocaine.
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>>35562129
AHH the firsttt kissss, i remember like it was yesterday.

i was like 11-12 years old in primary school. Me and this girl were writing notes to each other, writing we are gonna meet behind school to kiss.

It was the first exciting moment of my life.

>>35562245
SS>navy seal

>>35562173
So you can take me in my anus? Like you did with that girl?
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>>35562348
>Tylenol

Fuck is that?
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>>35562491
Maybe ;)
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>tfw first kiss was with a bulgarian hooker
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>>35562511
I wish we had bulgarian hookers in USA

we only have black girls
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>>35562511
:/
fun?
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ITT:

everyone gonna tell his story about his first kiss
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>>35562530
Tell yours?
Mine is p fucktup tb.h
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>>35562530
>this kid is in university and has 22 friends
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>>35562521
Come to europe. Only eastern EU bitches here

>>35562523
Yea it was fun, got me over my aspie for a big bit
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>>35562551
Cool man.
My 1st was a 16yo blond white girl
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>>35562575
>Mast e

Carefull, one of the most faked oils
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>>35562535
>i was like 11-12 years old in primary school.
>have a sort of girlfriend?
>Me and this girl were writing notes to each other, writing we are gonna meet behind school to kiss.
>we meet
>terrified as fuck
>stare each other in the eyes akwardly
>i approche
>rotating tounges like washing machine
>akward as fuck
not like exspected
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>>35562590
You fucking normie

I bet she wasnt even drunk
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Do aesthetic people still get depressed?
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>>35562616
I believe so
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>>35562610
tell me yours

i think this is her today btw( not sure)

probably around 26 years old. She was older than me back then.
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>>35562616
Yes but it goes away when banging a 18yo bat slut
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>>35562616
Yes when their source dries up
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>>35562631
What a cunt she is
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>>35562588
Better off skipping mast completely? Or going for prop?
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>>35562643
Mast prop unless you're 4 sure that the shit's legit
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>>35562631
It was my last day in my home town
Still a kissless bete no gains
We decided to have a big ass going away party

My cousin(female) said she'll bring her sluttiest friend over for me.

Legit 8 or 9 / 10.
Legit, she does acting now and have been on lacal tv a few times.

Anyway.

We all get p drunk.

Take her outside to share a cig.

Just go in and make out.

We were so fuckt tho, I puked green that night.

Eventually end up on a trampoline with her

She jerks me off and I finger her.

Even ate her out lol.

It was prolly one of the best nights of my life

She was gr10 at the time iirc
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>>35562366
Probably depends on what you're taking and for how long, things that decrease lutienizing hormone through agonizing the androgen receptors are probably going to kill test production potential less than ones that aromatize or have estrogen if effects on their own
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How do I not get scammed on my first time buying from a SST dude?
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>>35562718
pick a good 1
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>>35562477
Did nothing in particular, but i happen to take tren and ritalin and that combo completely killed my appetite and cravings
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27 male here. Was wondering if I took test e 250 mg/wk for 10 weeks and .5mg/day arimidex for 14 weeks as my first cycle, what results I would expect to get or if there would be anything else I should add.
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/fraud/ i'm having some problems with my spot injections

I rotate between glutes/vg/thighs and somehow I always have just enough pip to interfere with my leg day (i'm pinning e3.5d)

I would switch to delts but I don't wanna fuck up my shoulder training either. How do you guys deal with pip, just push through it?
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>>35562641
Yeah probably

With this girl i lost my virginity.

wow, she changed a lot since then.

>>35562676
So the first time you also fingered etc.

how old were you?

pics of the girl?
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>>35562740
What are you injecting? Sounds like you need better gear or brush up your injection skills breh.
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>>35562732
250 is too low

>>35562740
I just work through pip
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>>35562775
Yeah lol, 1st time fingering / eating out / touching boobs all that

Cant post pic now, cuz on mobile.
If youre rly curious I'll enail you a pic.
Shes cute af m8
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>>35562775
I was like 18 iirc
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>>35562778
Will nolva on hand be enough for 300mg/week npp?
Is it high risk to run it without caber on hand?
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>>35562776

test e 250/ml, my first cycle

I try to inject slowly and massage the spot afterwards, is there anything else I can do?

>>35562778

I might try that again. The first time I had pip in my glutes I did a heavy leg day the following day and it was so painful I could barely walk the rest of the week.
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>>35562812
pimp pimp you are

[email protected]
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>>35562862
Take a hot bath or shower prior and inject slower
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>>35562862
How many times have you pinned each site by now?

Are you pushing/injecting it too fast?

Hot water helps. But you really just gotta work through it.

>>35562856
Some people claim that running nolva with deca,npp or tren will increase your prolactin levels while other people say it does not.

Always get caber no matter what, better be safe than sorry. Theres also a few nice benefits from caber anyways.
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>>35562923
How will I know if i need it? What are obvious side effects of high prolactin? lethargy?
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>>35562856
Nolva wont do shit to help with npp sides.
You need ai, not serm

>>35562862
I pin delts on push days.
Training the muscle helps, might be broscience tho

>>35562875
Ygm
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>>35562616

Even more so than usual imo because my lifestyle needs to be constantly validated by attention from sluts
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>>35562110
Zyzz didn't blast and cruise. He just blasted.
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>>35562732
double the dose of test, 250 isn't going to get you close to what you are looking for
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>>35562936
Looks pretty good m9

Why the stupid drawings tho
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>>35562935
>obvious sides of prolactin
Lactation
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>>35562530
>6/10 girl in 8th grade has huge crush on me
>her 8/10 friend is visiting from hawaii
>we all skype because she wanted to introduce us
>she texts me the next day
>got her number from 6/10, thought I was really cute
>go to movies
>after movie "so uh, would you mind a kiss"
>most awkward thing ever
>both of us had our first kiss
>now shes a 9/10 who's dad is a multimillionaire apparently
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>>35562935
Gyno, deca dick.
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>>35562962
Idk.
Thats just a random pic from her ig
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>>35562530
>everyone gonna tell his story about his first kiss
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>>35562982
>would you mind a kiss
Ncaaaw
c u t e
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>>35562982
>now shes a 9/10 who's dad is a multimillionaire apparently
HOLY SHIT M9

GET HER BACK

THE GOLDEN TICKET
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My brain is so fucked. How do you guys deal with this? In between cycles I forget what it's like. The mental sides are killer right now.

Inb4
>2016
>still coming off cycle
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>>35563085
>Νot b&c
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>>35562952
Would the .5mg/day arimidex be good for the entire cycle or should I up the dosage to 1 mg/day for PCT?
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>>35562936
was gonna run arim regardless just worried about >>35562978 lactation apparently
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>>35562946
>roiding for that

>>35563085
I feel you breh.

it's a though time srs. Some days i feel like killing myself. next time i'am gonna use hcg for sure

pussies stay on, because they don't want that feeling.
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>>35563094
Go to at least 500mg test per week. 250mg per week is cruising dose. Half a pill adex per day will be a lot probably. I was at .5 adex eod when I was at 600mg test 500mg deca, and my estros where too low probably, since I had hot flashed a lot of nights. Once I went to .75 and all my joints where awful. It depends from person to person though.
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>tfw 19 natty and balding
luckily mom told me she would pay for hair transplant if I want to get one
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>>35563127
Does hcg help the mental sides?

When I'm off cycle I remember the aggression and motivation. Somehow I forget the days where you almost feel like you could kill yourself.
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>>35563128
Thanks man. Now it's about finding the right place to order from. Back to researching.
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>>35563147
Not to mention I do all of this for an above average physique that still doesn't come close to my ideals
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>>35563001
Soon man.

It'll happen when you least expect it

>>35563085
My brain is fuckt
Keep forgetting things and strangers faces remind me of people I havent seen in 5ever.

>>35563116
If estro is /low/ you dont need to worry about prolactin
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>>35563039

Pretty sure she hates my guts but Ill sure as fuck try again when shes back in town

I remember in 10th grade we started talking, then I went balls to the wall and just sent her a shirtless pic, started exchanging nudes from then on.

I also had severe acne at the time so when she actually ended up making it to town we didnt hang out despite her begging to fuck. I had a fucked self image

God damn I was a moron for not doing accutane earlier
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>>35563134
Just shave it and start pinning
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>>35563162
No problem. Don't start using without AI on hand. If your estros rise you will feel depressed and your dick will be dead. You don't want that. Also before start using think about it a lot. It's possible that you won't ever come out. It's a big decision. Take it with responsibility.
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>>35563147
>Does hcg help the mental sides?
You will recover faster probably.

those mental sides are caused by imbalanced hormones/low test

>2016
>scared to lose all gains when going off cycle
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>>35563179
There are so many weird sides that you learn about. That faces thing is crazy.

Do you guys get weird dreams from anything? Especially the for support stuff? I feel like prolactin agonists actually change my personality somewhat. Little things, like wasting more money. Some ppl reportedly develop gambling addictions that they never had.
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>>35563179
Thanks yolo guess its time to start my adventure into npp then
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>>35563202
Fuaaaark that arm thickness so jelly

Would using HCG the last 4 weeks of cycle help start nuts back up faster?

I just dont want to go through suicical thoughts during finals week lel
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>>35563202
shredded af mast when?
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>>35563210
theyre dopamine agonists, not "prolactin agonists"
this means it simulates having a high amount of dopamine constantly, which will probably fuck with your head a bit
but high dopamine = low prolactin
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1.3 billion? Guess I'm buying a few powerball tickets now.
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>get juice easy as fuck
>dont know how to get syringes

This is some monkey paw shit
Is there any way I can get them with btc
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>>35563202
im p sure hcg doesnt actually make you bounce back faster but it artificially raises your natty test (sounds weird but its complicated and im too lazy to explain properly) by bypassing some shit
its p much replaces some hormones that make your balls produce test but those same hormones are still low after the cycle
so you run the hcg to keep your test high while your entire hpta recovers to keep from feeling like shit through your pct basically

ive not looked too much into hcg so i may not be 100% correct but this is my understanding of it
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>>35563239
i get HIGH off alot of DOP if you know what i MINE?
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>>35563228
Some ppl run it their whole cycle.

>>35563239
Thanks
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>>35563260
Syringes aren't illegal?
Buy them online?
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>>35563262
lmao nigga you crazy
stims do increase dopamine temporarily but its not their primary mechanism of action i think
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>>35563260
They're not illegal
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>>35563200
Yeah. I feel like having to search for it makes me reconsider more and more. I don't know if I'll ever order, but I have some idea as to what I want to run if I do make that decision.
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>>35563260
where do you live where syringes are illegal?
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Mirin like fuck, I think joof and I have similar pec insertions, so I guess I can look forward to that look

Also I hung out with one of Jeffs good friends personally, and according to him jeff is a natty. Says "he doesnt have enhanced work capacity"

Bout to take off on a flight back to school lads. Cant fucking wait to actually do something with my time other than play dota and lift
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>>35563260
What? I order mine online. They get here in two days
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>>35563185
Sad story breh. I would try it

9/10

+

multimil dad, man shitt. That's worth a try at least

>>35563228
It's better to run it throughout your cycle.

The mental are worse if you run a longer cycle.

With my first 14 weeks cycle it wasn't that worse imo. With this 17/18 week cycle it's verry awful. Way worse than the first time

so it's probably also about the length
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>>35563210
Its hard to say what is tren sides and what is me just being fuckt lol.

Weird things I get are:
>super forgetfullness
>that face thing
>lolnosleep
>lucid dreaming
>murder dreams
>sex dreams
>super thirstyness
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>>35563302
I known its better, I just cant really afford to drop more money on gear ya feel?
Would 4 weeks make a difference?
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>>35563260
>Have no idea who to get good juice off in Straya
>And get a fuck load of easy syringes from my brother since he has a vitamin b deficiency
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Anyone used modafinil with rons?
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>>35563306
You forgot the ocean of sweat you wake up in every morning, assuming you were able to sleep more than 2 hours.
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>>35563293
Maryland
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>>35563369
they arent
order online
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>>35563355
The sleep.
>Saw ex
>"you look like you haven't been sleeping"
>"you must be taking this really hard"
>Bitch I'm on Tren
>fucked the shit out of her with rock hard TrenBoner (tm)
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>>35563369
>Maryland
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>>35563327
Hm who is cyclefag
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>>35563355
Not even sure if sweat is from tren or just SA weather
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>>35563401
I always run it in the winter because of how hot it gets here during spring and summer. I still sweat like I'm a waterbed with a hole in it.
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>>35563295
well there is no doubt he is natty now
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>>35563127
>pussies stay on, because they don't want that feeling.
Why be Clark Cuck when you can be superman?
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>>35562024
jm was born into a mid life crisis. If anyone can save him they'd get a nobel prize for advancing medical science
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>>35563462
is that rachel cook
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>>35561684
Why no sex? At least jack off onto there face
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>>35563462
> superman = roids
> Clark cunt = pct
> batman = bnc
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>>35563383
How does one summon cyclefag?
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>>35563292
Good for you, knowledge is power.
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>>35563502
see>>35562110
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>>35563502
>>35563577
also
>Batman = on cycle
>Bruce Wayne = off cycle
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>>35562962
Does this show all the silicone injected in his arms or wat?
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should i cycle or blast/cruise?

got about 3 more weeks until my current cycle ends, then I'd start the clearing phase+pct. But I have a fuck ton of test, and was wondering if I should just cruise until my next 'cycle'.
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>>35563261
is that so?

I don't know much about it either.

Most ppl don't use it over here because they bnc, but most pp who cycle use it tho.

Probably gonna try it myself to find out.

>>35563317
I seriously don't know.

Have to do more research about it.
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>>35563644
i wouldnt use it throughout the cycle though, just use it towards the end close to the pct and throughout pct
like maybe when you stop taking the long esters start taking hcg and continue until youre off nolva
idk about dosages either but you could look that up as easily as i could
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>>35563634
If you start wondering abvout going of or b&c, you already know that you're going to b&c.

>>35563644
Using hcg while b&c is the safest thing to do to maintain fertility. Guys who are on trt use hcg, and that's it's main use.
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>>35563600
Thats debatable, i mean hes clearly thicker all around. He says he sits at around 290 and comp weight is around 260
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>>35563600
I think so.

Do you follow his current journey to get big on Youtube?

it's entertaining

>>35563669
Yeah, but most ppl say you have to use it throughout the cycle. I don't know who i need to believe.

piano also use it like you say it.

>>35563672
>Using hcg while b&c is the safest thing to do to maintain fertility
I thought they just use it when they want to make babies
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>>35563740
most people are retarded, it doesnt make sense to me but id like to hear your opinion on what works best if you ever try both approaches
hcg does have side effects, lots more e2 in your system for some weird reason
>>
How can I naturally take steroids
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>>35563778
ask scooby, hes been doing it for years
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>>35563740
Oh yeah watching him is like car wreck cant look away.
Hes interesting for sure.
I just cant wrap my head around his arms trying to figure out whats in there def not just muscle.
I read somewhere an ex gf said he went to mexico regularly for some kind of injections silicone if i remember correctly
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>>35563778
>>35563790
That's a bingo
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>>35563757
There is some Dutch guy on this Dutch bodybuilding forum, he's like Brick. Also very intelligent and posting all these studies, why's it's better to use it throughout your cycle. I don't much about it, i need to probably try it myself, to find out.

Might first try it your way. After that i would probably try it throughout the cycle, to conclude which method is best.

>hcg does have side effects, lots more e2 in your system for some weird reason
yeah i was aware of this. Do you need to run an ai with it probably?

>>35563792
>I just cant wrap my head around his arms trying to figure out whats in there def not just muscle.
No, but is synthol even permanent?

Bostin loyd is using it, but it's not showing that much.

>kind of injections silicone if i remember correctly
kek silicone
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>>35563862
>i would probably try it throughout the cycle, to conclude which method is best.
please do, will be interesting to read
>Do you need to run an ai with it probably?
most likely
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>>35563862
What isn't Bostin using?
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>>35563462
Yeah, but still.

for how long are you're on now?

Are you even planning come off one day?

>>35563468
lmao. i feel sorry for the kid. still


>>35563884
thanks hungry, for your constructive advice
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>>35563906
Is he still having issues with his baby mommas family? You'd think that after losing a kid, people would just leave you alone.
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>>35563862
HCG creates luteinizing hormone which in turn increases production of test which would aromatize

My thoughts would be if you run hcg only probably wouldn't need an ai but stories here are falsehood and fiction so find a study
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>>35563906
Started late 2014
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tinygirl might be ded
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>>35563986
kek what makes you say this
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>>35563902
>What isn't Bostin using?
his brain

>>35563955
I don't know. I thought he was over her now and he got a new baby mama?

>>35563957
But then again; better safe than sorry.

Having gyno is no fun either
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>>35563862
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-steroids-questions-answers/526175-pmma-injections-better-alternative-synthol.html

Pmma
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>>35564021
she treid to an hero a few days ago, failed, and now havent been online in a few days.

idk

hope shes okay

kinda like her
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>>35563957
>HCG creates luteinizing hormone which in turn increases production of test which would aromatize
this isnt the only mechanism that hcg increases e2
theres some weird mumbo jumbo going on that nobody really understands afaik, probably upregulation of aromatase activity in some way
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>>35564045
What does this tiny girl look like, doesn't she browse here? How has she not posted her clit dick yet?
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>>35564072
>What does this tiny girl look like
qt af tb.h

> doesn't she browse here?
she does

>How has she not posted her clit dick yet?
lawl
she doesnt fraud
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>>35564045
how did she try to off herself?

She may be recovering
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>>35564072
we dont even know if its an actual girl or if yolo has been catfished this whole time lol
she never posted a timestamp or anything like that

but if she is who she says she is she real pretty
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>>35564094
>>35564094
>>35564094

n e w
t h r e a d
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>>35564072
Kinda like this
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>>35563862
Synthol is not permenant, think of it like pip sorta. Its an oil that breaks down extraordinarily slow.
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>>35564096
was drunk and tried to cut her own throat
m e t a l af

>>35564097
would let her stay with me in SA / 10
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Can anyone redpill me on the pec fly machine/pec deck?

It's literally the only way I can feel contraction on my chest (as opposed to benching/dumbbell bench, dips I can feel but it's more compound).

Articles say it's bad for your shoulders, but then again mens magazine and bodybuilding forums is made by dyel natty shitheads who will make up anything to keep their audience of equally forever DYEL teenagers/young adults.
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Doing babby's first cycle test e 500 12 weeks and have a few questions since there doesn't seem to be a clear answer online.

Do I need HCG for this cycle? If I don't use HCG, but do proper PCT, will my test and balls return to normal or will they always be "off"

Do I continue AI during PCT, or stop after I'm done pinning?

Dbol kickstart? I see a lot of differing opinions on this. Some say low does, others say high. I have also heard that Tbol is a better kickstart than Dbol? Please specify dose and length if you think kickstarts are a good idea.

How much AI should I have on hand to be safe? Was thinking of doing 12.5 Aromasin every other day - but how much extra should I buy just in case?


Please help, already have my test but have held off on PCT and AI thus far so I can do my research on sources. I want to make sure I'm buying everything I need the first time around.
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