1.) READ THE PASTEBIN BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
2.) QUESTIONS THAT AREN'T COVERED BY THE PASTEBIN
>Day [1-5] I'm not feeling it. Is my DNP underdosed?
No, it's called blood buildup and it's normal. Look it up.
>Day 5+ and I'm still not feeling it. Is my DNP underdosed?
Give more info. How much DNP are you taking? You won't feel jackshit if you're only on 250mg. Cold weather and your diet also play a roll in how much you feel.
>Any other NOT FEELING IT YET questions
Heat is not the primary mechanism of DNP. More heat doesn't mean more weight loss.
>Day [1-7] and I haven't lost any weight
>Day [1-7] and I have gained weight
Heavy water retentions in the first week. It's normal.
>Day [7+] and I haven't lost any weight
More info needed. What's your diet like? How big is your deficit? How much DNP are you on? Are you tracking your calories?
>Day [7+] and I have gained weight
All of the above + stop being a fat fuck and eat less.
>Should I take my doses all at once or spread throughout the day?
Doesn't matter. Spread throughout for stable blood levels. All at once for more intense sides at first and less intense sides 12 hours after
>How much time should I wait between cylces.
At the very least do time on = time off.
More is better though, especially if you plan on doing more than 2 cycles. A lot of anons posted that they had less results with time on = time off the second and third time around.
>Day [1-21] and I think I got PN
No you don't. It's all in your head. You don't just wake up with PN. It gradually develops. You'd have to expose yourself to DNP for months at a time to develop PN. This doesn't just happen from one cycle alone.
>Where can I buy this shit?
Fuck you. Read the pastebin before asking questions. All Shills in this thread are to be trusted.
Gonna run 250mg first 5 days and then 16 days 500, maybe a bit longer. Also Gonna run on a 500 or 800kcal diet.
Gonna be my 3rd cycle, is 500/800 alright or is it too low? Never went that low on previous cycles.
Of course it's too fucking low!
day 3 250mg Dinitro. Shit is legit af. Slept 12 hours yesterday lol and been also getting heat waves at random times. I don't mind it though. I live in an area where its -20 Celsius currently. I want more heat, but I'm just gonna keep on 250mg till day 7 and maybe raise the dose.
So starting 200mg for about a week then going to do like maybe 300/400 (too hard to split pill).
On anti depressants and anti psychotics so going to get some flack I reckon.
On duloxatine 90mg and abilify 10mg. I'll report back and maybe do I write up because I don't see much info on taking dnp with anti psychotics.
How the fuck do you even feel heat in that weather? I am based somewhere in souther California and it felt like 75f in 55f weather. You should still be freezing balls out there. Bump to 500mg It felt like 75-85f in 55f weather
2 days two off my cycle. I slept about 12 hours and I feel great energy is back to normal and bloat is going down significantly. It's too cold now kinda wish I stayed on 250mg. Everything is comfy on 250mg
Just a theory but couldn't dnp be used in extremely cold weather to maintain you body heat? Just eat a couple extremely high calorie supplements to maintain your body fat while still maintaining body heat.
The sticky recommends burning a small sample of the product to ensure that it combusts.
Does anyone actually do that?
I just tried dissolving a few milligrams of mine in a little water and it dissociated almost instantly, yellowing the liquid.
incidentally, I can see why it's used as a dye.
i cant say for myself but from what i've read, most people lose around 15-20 lbs at 3 weeks of 250mg so take what you will from that.
in 2 weeks i would guess 10-15 depending on obvious factors like deficit,etc.
So, was at a party last night. Successfully resisted alcohol, but not the junk food. The cravings were real, I had been running low carb, but I probably ate something like 2500 carlories for dinner alone, lmao. Lots of it carbs.
So, I felt the heat like never before, just fuck my shit up. I was sweating like a goddamn dog the rest of the night, and all night long.
I am at 1 week on 500 DNP
Anyone else have trouble drying it out? I'm still getting those tiny little clumps. How do you get rid of them and get a nice fine powder?
Just to preface this, I have already read the pastebin and linked info.
What would be the effects of just continuing a 250mg a day cycle until you hit 10% bf? I know that you will most likely build a resistance to the DNP to some extent (nothing I read ever quantified it and only could cite anecdotal experiences). But aside from a possible tolerance, would there really be any health risks at all from such a low dose for a longer amount of time? Aside from the usual health risks of DNP of course.
I'm 6'1", about 220 lb strongfat that wants to get from ~25% bf to 10%. On a "normal" cut that would probably take a year or more, and I'd like to get it done in about 2 months.
Does DNP get worse(weaker) with time....What is the longest it can be stored?
I bought some last winter but then I had to go for a knee surgery and could not use it. I thought I would use it this year but again the same knee needs surgery.. so yeah...
desu i would not recommend taking it for 2 months straight. cut hard at 250mg/day for 3 weeks take at least a 2-3 week break then do it again.
if you feel ballsy you could take 500mg on the days that you know you won't be doing anything
I gathered that much from most sources, but I mean why? The only effect ever mentioned is reduced efficacy based off of anecdotal evidence. There's no talk of any other negative on a low, long term dosage. Is it just a matter of better safe than sorry?
>in 2 weeks i would guess 10-15 depending on obvious factors like deficit,etc.
thanks man, do you think it will be mostly fat or is there a significant percentage of water and muscle weight??
yeah, this is just what i've read. dnp isnt necessarily something you want to be experimenting with, as its poison.
i would just do the suggested 21 day 250mg cycle then repeat it after a break. i don't know why people recommend it but it's not worth taking the chance of taking dnp 60 days in a row and fucking something up
I believe the risk of things like cataracts and PN goes up the longer you're on it.
DNP is literally poison. Your body can tolerate small amounts of poison for short periods of time, but probably shouldn't do it for sutsained periods of time.
True. Well I've done a 40 day cycle in the past and was no worse for the wear (had 40 pills and decided to just use 1 a day until I ran out), but I'll think about it and do more research first.
Different anon, but from what I understand, the fat to muscle loss ratio is like 7:1 on DNP or more. Also you can/will look bloated on DNP cause of the water retention. It will go away about a week after you end your cycle.
thanks man, i dont like to do diets because i never stick to them but when I eat healthy and stay active I start losing weight so I will try to keep the healthy habits and add the 250mg. Should I start with that dose or should I increase periodically? Since a lot of people take 500mg or more I think its safe to start inmediately with 250
who here has lost 5+ pounds a week while on DNP? sounds like a bullshit meme unless you're eating literally nothing and doing a shit ton of cardio every day. i maintain a 500 calorie deficit and i still lose maybe 2 pounds a week on 250 mg/day.
you can lose 2lbs a week natty lol... youre probably holding a shitload of water anyway. after you stop the cycle you will probably drop 5 lbs of water
or your shit is bunk? some people lose up to 1lb/ day on dnp so maybe check your diet or something?
If it's your first cycle, i'd start with 250. The sticky says do the whole first cycle on 250, i personally increased to 500 after a week on my first cycle. You just gotta feel it out bro.
just started my first cycle with Dinitro's DNP. Gonna do 1-4 @ 250mg a day. then 5-14 @ 500mg. Got my supps. v8. 5'9'' @ 177 15ish% bf.
i've done several DNP cycles from 2 different suppliers. i don't believe that it's possible to lose 5+ pounds a week on 250 mg of DNP. 250 mg only raises your BMR by ~27% on average.
Just started mine today as well, good luck senpai
thanks f.am. good luck to you
we're all gonna make it brah
Why the fuck are you using my pic m8?
Not exactly. The pic on the left was taken when before I started to take DNP. Pic on the right was taken like a month ago. It included 6 month of some lifting. Here is the til pic of my dnp progress after three 500mg cycles on 1k cal deficit
Btw, I'm thinking to hop on another cycle. Still has a nasty layer of a stomach fat. I wonder if I can get rid of it by doing one more cut or I'm doomed to carry it with my forever as a reminder of mistakes I did in my life
It's ok, I just feel awkward seeing myself on the Internets
You're right. However, I followed his routine blindly only for 3 months. Then I've modified it slightly and started to mix my days and exercises from time to time. Still gaining damn noob gains. I guess I should be thankful to my genetics because I already bigger than I was a month ago (those pics you're seeing now) doing stupid DB and cable shit and not even touching a barbell
Just to anyone interested my brother took DNP because he weighted 300 pounds and was a 5'9 manlet, so imagine how horrible he was.
While taking those pills he sweat a mad ton, smelled awful all the time, and was always fucking tired. Due to this, he was fired from his job, but luckily found something else, and continued with his DNP. Later on, I remember him losing up to 100 pounds in a few months and at the end of the year weighing 190.
He was shredded, and that might not be the DNP, but probably while he was during his 200 he started working out seriously, and I was happy for him, even though he couldn't lift his shirt due to the extra skin (which got removed).
After the year, another few months passed and he was having some complications, and was feeling weird in the abdomen. He was found to have liver and stomach cancer, and the doctor hinted that it was DNP since it heats up so much the insides and contains something called radicals or whatever. He said he believes it was mainly because of the artifical weigh loss due to DNP that he had gotten cancer in those organs.
Luckily it was early stages of cancer so they just took the infected tissues out, but the moral of this is that while it works, you end up spending more in the long run.
It might work good for you, and while I'm not as shredded as my brother at least I didn't spend half a fortune due to the side effects of those pills.
don't stay on the shit for more than 3 weeks
increases your risk factor for PN and myelin sheath damage etc by a whole bunch. not at all worth it, better to increase dosage to 500mg/750 and just sweat out the sides. minimize long-term damage
Started to experience PN and stopped my cycle at 31 days of 500mg of maserati's stuff. Will stick to 21 next time. How long should I wait before my next cycle? I will use the proper supplements next time.
Also, DNP increase your BMR or TDEE? For instance, say my BMR is 1800 and with exercise my TDEE is 2500. On 500mg, would my final TDEE be 3400 (2500 + 50% of 1800), or 3750 (150% of 2500)?
What is the pastebin on about with "crystal vs. powder"
I assume they're comparing sodium 2,4-dinitrophenolate and plain 2,4-dinitrophenol, but the weight ratios would be incorrect in that case.
With regards to solubility, 2,4-dinitrophenol has poor water solubility and probably will not readily dissolve into a glass of water unless it is hot. The sodium salt will dissolve immediately.
I am only a bit lighter than you, 6'1" 210 builtfat I am running 500mg a day for three weeks, 1 week in and im about 5 pounds down. This includes 1 epic cheat meal, dont plan on another one for at least another week.
Anyways, my plan is to go on for 3 weeks, back off for three weeks then on another three week run. The trick is, stay on a cut while off DNP, those three weeks, you should lose a bit of weight, then once on DNP again, it should fall right off. Continue ad infinitum
did 2 weeks at 500mg. 1st week was fine, 2nd week was hell. I can't imagine doing 3 weeks of more than 500mg. Yall are masochists.
Lost total of 14 lbs tho, so can't complain about that. gonna do the rest without the DNP tho, it made me fucking sick as hell during week 2.
How much do you weight? I am taking at 70kg and planning to cut down to like 64. I am feeling like a furnace, drinking water like crazy but have shortness of breath (that i take clen to compansate) and sweating.
Is this the case guys?
Not trying to fearmonger, but dear god take an antihistamine as standard practice dudes, I just learned that the shitty way.
My first cycle, absolutely no abnormal sides, just the heat and night sweats. I was on for 3 weeks, off for 5. Started my 2nd cycle and on day 7 of only 200mg I wake up in the middle of the night covered collar bone to toes in the most painful, itchy fucking hives. Absolutely no warning before I went to bed. 0-100 while I slept. Marched my ass to walmart at 2:00 AM to get some Benadryl which did help quite a bit, but just could not bring that shit down, same with Zyrtec. Finally got some Prednisone which brought that shit under control. Good now, but damn the last two days sucked something awful.
was 250, now 236ish. Water weight fluctuates like a mother fucker. Pushing to 210 by May.
No, its not fat. Hardcore bulk during christmas season (london broils all day erry day budday).
Now, is this crystal or powder DNP here? From my understanding, crystal is about like taking 25% less DNP correct?
So, if this is for powder, and you are taking 2 , 250's a day, your blood concentration will be like the 400 row correct?
day 5 currently. Did 500mg yesterday and before that was 250mg.
500mg is a fycking hell more stronger lmao, shit legit is making sweat hot as fuck and I live in negative 20+ weather. Anyways heat I managed, but the fuckign lethargy, my god the lethargy. I barely got out of bed today.
Just go on the subreddit DNPsourcetalk it has a thread for each source and people vouch for leave feedback so you know who is legit. Also sources post all their sales on there. How fucking hard is it brah
yeah im the other guy that tried getting in but im looking at the pastebin and the prices magiciansyellow has looks a+, although I wish it was 250mg as opposed to 215. maybe that's a good thing. idk.
Yeah other times I did it and it wasn't that bad. Must of took one just before the adderall. Wouldnt mix it if your taking 400-500mg daily that would be too extreme I would imagine.
any explanation on those supps? german bro posted it here 7month ago
Anyone here tried taking DNP without any supplements? What could be the consequences?
It'd be my 3rd cycle and it's such a pain in the ass to take these supps every day, I'm thinking of just kicking them out of my cycle.
Will all these fucking dumbfucks dying from overdosing affect me from ordering a bulk order of an kilogram to the states?
I already order 100g for me but I want to get a bigger supply.
From what I've seen, two main side effects from DNP are loss of electrolytes from sweating, and something to do with oxidation. So a lot of the supps are for replenishing electrolytes and providing anti-oxidants. Apparently the oxidant stuff and something to do with free radicals is believed to be what puts you at risk of cataracts, so the anti oxidants are for that.
I think. I am not a doctor.
How underdosed is Maseratis DNP? He says he puts 330mg in the 250mg pills but that doesn't make sense to me. I don't understand pills but I would imagine a 250mg pill holds 250mg so how does he supposedly stuff more in? All DNP Ive ever bought were pills stuffed to the max. Last was 200mg and maybe his are a little bigger but basically the same size. Im wondering how to calculate DNP blood levels since people on here say his pills are crushed looking which means they are wet and therefore that makes them heavier so I guess less DNP cause of that? How much actual DNP would yall say are in Maseratis 250mg pills.
>3c every single fucking day in manchester
>-5 past 5pm
>have to go to some event as a marketer
I'm taking my 2 leftover caps of DNP just to not fucking freeze to death tomorrow.
I have no idea how excel works. How do you plot the half-life? How do you do:
dose + old dose *(1/2)^(dosage period/half life) or even a running total since I'm not sure how long I'll be on.
Especially want to know since I'll be changing dosage amount after 1 week.
tl;dr What's the exact excel formula for charting 36 hour half-life on custom dosage.
Week 1 was finished sunday
Down 6 lbs on that day.
I'll throw up some progress photos in march. Doing a recuperation period and then another 3 week cycle.
Also, does anyone know if maserati is powder or crystal? It's either crystal or underdosed.
>tfw ordered my dnp today
can't wait, first cycle so kinda nervous.
Is it safe to up the dose halfway through a cycle?
I'm planning on a 21 day 250mg/day cycle. Currently 6'3 204, trying to reach 185. Is that a reasonable goal?
>hey guys I have the exact excel formula for plotting the half life
>what's the formula?
fuck are you retarded brah literally 2 seconds in excel
got a bunch of 200mg DNP pills
How should I take them if I'm gonna take 3 a day.
one every 8 hours?
columns, l to r: date, bodyweight, dnp dose, time dnp taken, dnp blood saturation
i was bitching about not losing any weight. guess i didnt wait long enough. usually the water weight dropped a week after the cycle ended, this time it took two weeks. weird.
Considering giving DNP a shot. No more than 200mg for 21 days. Not sure if allergic and wondering if I should take benadryl as a rash preventative even if I don't know if I will get one on DNP... insight?
I have 200mg pills back from the day of Yellowbot. I had some side effects after taking them twice a day and stopped after 10 days due to a rash, then took a break before trying to take one once a day, at third day I started feeling like shit and stopped again.
Should I try taking one 200mg dosage every 2 days?
I was the german bro posting that image.
Cetrizin is an anti hestamine, i took it the whole 21 days just to be sure.
Elotrans is for electrolytes, i took it before sleeping since you usually lose a good amount of sweat while sleeping.
Calcium pyruvat hels with fat loss, you can google the details.
NAC is descriped in the pastebin
VITE: anti oxidant, basicly fighting radikals
VITC: anti oxidant, basicly fighting radikals
I will start my 2nd cycle in a few weeks btw. going for 500mg for 21 days.. went up to 600mg day on my first cycle.
>day 10 of 250mg
Cruising so far but today woke up with a horrible taste in my mouth. Tried brushing my teeth or drinking tons of water but no help. Anyone ever hear of anything like this?
>tfw all food tastes like shit.
It took you 3250mg to lose 3.2 lbs in 10 days? I lost 3.6 lbs in 2 days after 1000mg; 750mg first day 250mg next. I find it best to weigh yourself in the morning after a piss in just boxers to get a proper weight since no clothes or water or food in your system.
i lost 7.2 pounds between today and my first dose. i think i was holding on to the water way longer than usual. i take my weight at the same time: immediately after i wake up and take a piss, same clothes every time.
Think I took 4 extra in that cycle. Cause took 2 the first 2 days to amp it up. Took 2 towards the end.
So I lost 2 lbs per gram ingested. Probably easier to be strict on diet on a shorter cycle. Drank some Yoohoos probably what made me lose less.
>Does crystal just not cause as many sides cause purer?
Which is answered in the pastebin
>how much DNP is in there when its wet.
What do you mean how much DNP is in wet DNP, there is no way to tell as there could be varying levels of water. You'd ahve to dry it and weigh it to find the exact amount of DNP you have. That's like asking how much oats are in wet oats? It's a retarded question.
>>Does crystal just not cause as many sides cause purer?
>Which is answered in the pastebin
Its not. It says basically crystal is 75% DNP. My pills have 330mg crystal equivalent to 250mg DNP so my question is does it have less sides? Ive read that shit several times. Seems to have less sides. The lethargy is so much less! 200mg of powder makes you tired as fuck. I took 750mg of DNP of pills capped with 330mg and lethargy nowhere near as bad.
So I woke up with a fever (103ºF) on my 7th day of DNP on a 21 day 215mg cycle. I can't tell if I just got sick or if it's the DNP but I took some ibuprofen and it went down to 99ºF
Should I continue taking DNP normally, or is that a retarded idea and going to kill me?
DB routine? I can't find that on scooby's site Also the beginner-> intermediate -> advanced progression seems fucked. Sometimes he says 'once you can do A pull-up, move on'. Others it says 'once you can do FOUR'.
Either way it seems really low.
Yeah, I guess I've started from his Intermediate one and customized it a little bit for the equipment I had at my disposal.
Now I'm following the different routine though. Basically I just decided to have Arms day, Chest day and Shoulders day and fill them with all kind of exercises Buff Dudes recommend for those specific muscles. Occasionally I do stuff for other muscle groups like traps, back, quads, core and such.
So on Day 7. From 200mg to 400mg now. Taking Duloxetine 90mg and Abilify 10mg as well.
Barely any heat/weight loss on 200mg but that's to be expected.
Going to buy ephedrine for an ECA stack too (25mg Ephedrine, 200mg coffee, 5mg aspirin).
So far so good. Expecting to change now that I've doubled dosage.
every 100mg of DNP increases your TDEE by 10%, as said in the pastebin.
So in theory, yes, but in reality usually not. There's other factors that contribute such as caloric intake and just general shit with your body.
I work as a software consultant. I program for around 6 hours a day with two hours of meetings. I also have a girlfriend. I read the stickey and think I can handle the side effects at work and at home but will I lose sex drive or anything with my girl?
You people do it wrong. I take 3 the first day to be at peak levels then 1 a day. It takes you a week to get to peak levels and you think its not working so up it to near lethal levels; smart.
In theory but 500 a day you would probably eat like a maniac since the carb cravings would be insane! I like 250mg and just diet while on. Crystal is way better than powder! Crystal doesn't cause lethargy at all in comparison.
Using atm. His shit is marked as powder, but is actually crystal. G2G.
>thinking the hydrolysis of 2,4-dinitrochlorobenzene occurs in people's basement.
It's not made in a lab either brah, I'm a chemical engineer that works with large scale industrial process' I can assure you that no one is making fucking DNP in a basement that's a complete waste of time and money. The most likely source of DNP are plants in china that can produce large scale amounts and have the equipment to do so (industrial reactor vessels, boilers, heat exchangers, evaporators).
That's why you can literally buy DNP for less than $2 a kg internationally. I'll give you the fact that if you buy from one of the DNP sources they likely cap it themselves, but I'm sure they aren't making it.