>start roiding at 25th birthday, straight to blast and cruise, no cycles
>get big and jacked
>28th birthday next month
>panic mode regarding roids
>realize i am now trapped in a prison of chemicals
>at this point if i go off i will be fucked
feels bad man
stay natty kids
You should try to come off OP. It will be tough, but its been done.
You dont want to have to rely on artificial test for the rest of your life. Especially with the upcoming race war and breakdown of society. Roids will be impossible to get, good luck surviving the apocalypse with low test
>At this point if I go off I will be fucked
How? Like if you now hopped off the juice, continued to train as hard as you can and ate at a slight surplus, what would realistically happen?
Yeah very real possibility of permanent endocrine damage
That's what I don't get about these roidfags, they act like life ends at 40 because they certainly aren't making decisions with any kind of old age life in mind. I like lifting heavy as much as the next guy but I am not sacrificing that much of my middle and old age just to look a certain way for a few years in my 20's and 30's.
Perhaps now you realize that roiding to overcome your insecurities and to fuck a bunch of ape trannies wasn't the best course of action.
Let this be a message to ALL roiders,YOU CANNOT punch or intimidate all your problems away and it doesn't matter how big or aesthetic you get.Enjoy the rest of your life when you look aesthetic natty and still have your health
*when you COULD be aesthetic natty
inb4 LOL NOT POSSIBLE
Perhaps try lifting and eating like your life depends on it and then you'll see.You don't need ab veins and baskeball shoulders to be aesthetic
Those arms are not, but these drug addicted degenerates spouting "can't be aesthetic natty" are 100% fucking retarded. It's like a heroin addict saying you can't have fun without heroin.
Tiny is more aesthetic than anyone on /fit/ atm and is/was natty
I was a "just one cycle" retard who couldn't resist the temptation.
Roids are fucking magical. But you absolutely HAVE to be happy knowing you will be on them for life if you want to feel good and motivated. Personally I think this is the biggest reason why under 25s (maybe even under 30s) shouldn't roid, because they may not be mature enough to accept the commitments and sacrifices it entails.
I did a 16 week cycle, gains were incredible, I looked and felt the best I ever had.
But I wasn't prepared for how it would fuck with motivation after coming off.
He was also 5'4 or less as much as people like the manlet meme but most guys above 6ft will look dyel mode if they aim for the shredded look natty especially if they have clothes on.
How long you been cycling/blasting cruising now?
pic related is 6ft getting close to natty limit. 4 years in the gym if i remember correctly. I'd definitely consider him aesthetic
You will never have that look without drugs. You could maybe build almost that much muscle and maybe get that lean with drugs but you will look flat with much less definition. Steroids don't just add size, they change the appearance of muscle as well.
if you want to roid to get stronger and bigger do it but dont believe for a second that you will be more aesthetically pleasing
Could he not get legal TRT if he's fucked his test levels up? What would be the con?
I'm not, I came off, and since then I have been battling with myself to remember that I still look good, despite not having the inflated on-cycle look that isn't achievable natty.
Training is amazing. My 3RM deadlift of 200kg became my 10RM. Other lifts were similar progress wise.
I had boners constantly and my sex drive was through the roof. I was 10x more confident talking to and flirting with girls (though I have a gf so never made made any moves).
This was all just with test-e 500mg weekly.
So I imagine adding others (particularly dbol I hear) will make you feel like a god.
Overall, I may go back to cruising for life at some point, but I am being a lot less gung-ho and impatient about it.
Nice cherry picking faggot. I don't condone roid abuse but even i know you're being fucking retarded
>This was all just with test-e 500mg weekly.
Isn't that a relatively low dose? Thought low doses wouldn't fuck you up. Fucking fraud lied again
No shit. They're capable of the same kind of mental gymnastics that the HAES use to justify their unhealthy, self-destructive lifestyles. The more you look into it the more you realize they're pretty similar.
What the fuck are you on about?
he would continúe with the same mass and body weight he has now.
If he stop training for 5 years, and the start training again without steroid, he would have the same muscle mass he has now.
He's only "trapped" because it becomes an obssesion in getting bigger.
but you're saying he would have looked better without the juice?
You don't listen to the retarded haters. He didn't gain any size in 3 years and barely any strength at all. He was natty.
Why do comments like
>A natty can't maintain a 6-7% body fat all year round
always pop up in steroid threads? Why can't they? If someone who is skinny year-round adds, let's say, 10 pounds of muscle, why couldn't they cut back calories until they're 6-7% BF and keep it that way?
They would lose their muscle and look depleted, when fat levels get that low your body senses it as starvation going on and literally eats the gainz because we have evolved to live not to look jacked
Because your body will start to consume your muscles for energy if you're natty. Also you'll look fucking anorexic as a natty at 6%.
I don't think you quite understand how insanely low 6% bf is, i can promise you you've never met anyone that low unless they have an eating disorder.
Don't speak about things you don't understand.
I've done extensive research on hypothyroidism/endocrine system shut down and there are no intances of permanent shut down with proper intervention.
If he wanted to hop off he could take triptorellin, a GNRH Modulator.
He could also take clomid on top of that for his HPTA
Just to be clear, I'm not trying to argue one way or the other but I'm trying to exhaust the possibility.
Couldn't someone avoid their body cannibalizing itself by eating at-or-close to TDEE and being on point with protein consumption?
Why would the body look to muscles for energy if it's getting it through food?
I have done 500mg per week and there was no sides coming of it was nothing like people said about depression and shit.
Low dose of test aint shit, on test lifts never went up huge amounts did dbol for 3 weeks got my DL from 200kg for 1 to 220kg for 6, kept my one rep at 230kg and aint been on anything for over a year.
But test was a bit shit go all out if you roid low test dose just makes you bloat and get a bit spotty.
Taking HCG can reverse any testicular shrinkage and sperm count loss.
Enlarged heart, high blood pressure, high hematocrit?
Regular blood work, minimizing saturated fat intake, and cardiovascular exercise will mitigate most health effects.
JM is like late thirties going on forties.
There are some chems that can get your luteinizing hormone going again. Most of them are used in PCT. Iirc triptorelin is like the miracle worker one that gets goads going after years of abuse.
>JM is like late thirties going on forties.
Are you serious? That just makes him even more pathetic.
>this dude again
>roiding for this
>potentionaly risking the life for this "kind of look"
>tfw when you roid but still look like a shit
>implying that matters with his body
Why would you need a test base, var doesn't aromatize so it won't affect your natural test levels.
I didnt say all orals retard, we're only talking about var which compared to other orals is the mildest
Seriously stop posting
the thing is this: cycling is fucking useless, by the time you are recovered and ready for a new cycle, you lost all those gains
blast and cruise is the way to go for a great physique, but you will literally destroy your testicles
a sane person concludes that bodybuilding is a horrible hobby and takes up something else
well I'm a complete drug addict as well but honestly you're just sounding like a little crybaby
you knew the risks and you did it anyway
this is no different than some guy slamming heroin then waaaa I'm addicted I'm constantly avoiding withdrawing waa I can't feel happy without drugs waaa HoW ON EARTH DID THIS HAPPEN I SIMPLY AM SHOCKED THIS IS SO SURPRISING
if you want to take risks like you have then you need to be aware and informed of the consequences. idiots think they know it all or it wont happen to them or they simply don't care - and they pay the price
no sympathy desu
i been on since probably 17. Took prohormons and then took test etc all types of shit just recently came off. I''m 21 and 3 into pct and got my blood back and my test is currently at 427. LH is 9 and FSH at 5. Regarding my high levels of LH im thinking my body is still recovering untill i hit my natty T peak. U Mirin fags