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>start roiding at 25th birthday, straight to blast and cruise, no cycles
>get big and jacked
>fuck bitches
>28th birthday next month
>midlife crisis
>panic mode regarding roids
>realize i am now trapped in a prison of chemicals
>at this point if i go off i will be fucked

feels bad man

stay natty kids
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>>35511205
get rekt manletfag
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seems like you are fucked
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You should try to come off OP. It will be tough, but its been done.

You dont want to have to rely on artificial test for the rest of your life. Especially with the upcoming race war and breakdown of society. Roids will be impossible to get, good luck surviving the apocalypse with low test
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>>35511205

Can't you slowly cycle off and let your body recover.
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>>35511205
JM is that you
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>>35511205
>At this point if I go off I will be fucked
How? Like if you now hopped off the juice, continued to train as hard as you can and ate at a slight surplus, what would realistically happen?
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>>35511684
he'd get fat and small

the point is his hormone levels are fucked forever being on that long
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>>35511623
Kek, that was my first thought
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>>35511705

Yeah very real possibility of permanent endocrine damage

That's what I don't get about these roidfags, they act like life ends at 40 because they certainly aren't making decisions with any kind of old age life in mind. I like lifting heavy as much as the next guy but I am not sacrificing that much of my middle and old age just to look a certain way for a few years in my 20's and 30's.
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Perhaps now you realize that roiding to overcome your insecurities and to fuck a bunch of ape trannies wasn't the best course of action.
Let this be a message to ALL roiders,YOU CANNOT punch or intimidate all your problems away and it doesn't matter how big or aesthetic you get.Enjoy the rest of your life when you look aesthetic natty and still have your health
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>>35512598
*when you COULD be aesthetic natty
inb4 LOL NOT POSSIBLE
Perhaps try lifting and eating like your life depends on it and then you'll see.You don't need ab veins and baskeball shoulders to be aesthetic
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>>35512659

Do you really think that guy hasn't been riding the bicycle for a while? He turned in his natty card a while ago
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>>35512680
He might not be natty but his body in that pic is achievable.He is 6'0 170 something pounds.
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>>35512696
He is also like 7% bodyfat which is almost impossible to maintain.
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>>35511205
>28 years old
>midlife
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>>35511205
Should've cycled properly dude.

No sympathy, you knew the risks you just ignored them.
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>>35512696
Those arms are not, but these drug addicted degenerates spouting "can't be aesthetic natty" are 100% fucking retarded. It's like a heroin addict saying you can't have fun without heroin.

Tiny is more aesthetic than anyone on /fit/ atm and is/was natty
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>>35512659
>cancer patient
>natty

U wot m7+1
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>>35511205

>roidlets

hahah apex kek.
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I was a "just one cycle" retard who couldn't resist the temptation.

Roids are fucking magical. But you absolutely HAVE to be happy knowing you will be on them for life if you want to feel good and motivated. Personally I think this is the biggest reason why under 25s (maybe even under 30s) shouldn't roid, because they may not be mature enough to accept the commitments and sacrifices it entails.

I did a 16 week cycle, gains were incredible, I looked and felt the best I ever had.
But I wasn't prepared for how it would fuck with motivation after coming off.
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>>35512734
He was also 5'4 or less as much as people like the manlet meme but most guys above 6ft will look dyel mode if they aim for the shredded look natty especially if they have clothes on.
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>>35512727
This honestly
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>>35512755
How long you been cycling/blasting cruising now?
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>>35512734
He was also 5'4" you mong.
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>>35512755
What was it like anon?
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>>35512757
pic related is 6ft getting close to natty limit. 4 years in the gym if i remember correctly. I'd definitely consider him aesthetic
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>>35512775
See
>>35512783
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>posting in a JM thread
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>>35512783
I'd like to see legs first seen far too many top heavy guys with legit african legs.
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>>35512696

You will never have that look without drugs. You could maybe build almost that much muscle and maybe get that lean with drugs but you will look flat with much less definition. Steroids don't just add size, they change the appearance of muscle as well.
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slowly and gradually lower your dosage each week until you run out of gear.
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>>35512802
Who gives a fuck about legs
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>>35512802
I mean zyzz had chicken legs, but i get what you're saying.
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if you want to roid to get stronger and bigger do it but dont believe for a second that you will be more aesthetically pleasing
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>>35512810
Could he not get legal TRT if he's fucked his test levels up? What would be the con?
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>>35512766

I'm not, I came off, and since then I have been battling with myself to remember that I still look good, despite not having the inflated on-cycle look that isn't achievable natty.

>>35512778

Training is amazing. My 3RM deadlift of 200kg became my 10RM. Other lifts were similar progress wise.
I had boners constantly and my sex drive was through the roof. I was 10x more confident talking to and flirting with girls (though I have a gf so never made made any moves).

This was all just with test-e 500mg weekly.
So I imagine adding others (particularly dbol I hear) will make you feel like a god.


Overall, I may go back to cruising for life at some point, but I am being a lot less gung-ho and impatient about it.
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>>35512847
Nice cherry picking faggot. I don't condone roid abuse but even i know you're being fucking retarded
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>>35512783
Thats Natty Limit for 1 years lifting
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>>35512874
>This was all just with test-e 500mg weekly.

Isn't that a relatively low dose? Thought low doses wouldn't fuck you up. Fucking fraud lied again
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>>35512829
People that actually fucking lift faggot.
>>35512834
True, but at least you can look aesthetic natty well not zyzz but that guy
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>>35512881
he probably was on roids but if you think that body cant be achieved without them im sorry for you anon
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>>35512874
Honestly if roids didn't have risks of long term damage to endocrine systems I would hop on that shit without a second thought.
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>>35512904

>fraud lied

No shit. They're capable of the same kind of mental gymnastics that the HAES use to justify their unhealthy, self-destructive lifestyles. The more you look into it the more you realize they're pretty similar.
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>>35512918
What the fuck are you on about?
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>>35512925
Same, only thing holding me back is thinking about me at age 40+.
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>>35511527
test levels are permanently fucked after roids
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>>35511684
he would continĂșe with the same mass and body weight he has now.

If he stop training for 5 years, and the start training again without steroid, he would have the same muscle mass he has now.

He's only "trapped" because it becomes an obssesion in getting bigger.
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Looool, you look like that after 3 years of juice? You should just kill yourself fucking faggot
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>>35512881
you fucking retard the before pic is before he even lifted
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>>35512852
no, he cant
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>>35512987
>>35512981
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>>35513020
but you're saying he would have looked better without the juice?
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33 y-o here, considering seeing a doctor and try to get trt prescribed. I heard it comes down to 500$ per year or somewhere around that
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>>35512734
Everyone said Tiny wasn't natty

Who do I believe
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>>35513106
You don't listen to the retarded haters. He didn't gain any size in 3 years and barely any strength at all. He was natty.
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>>35512902
oh man have you even lifted for 1 year?
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>>35512722
This YOLO cult states that life ends at 45, the other 35 years breathing doesn't count
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Quick question:

Why do comments like
>A natty can't maintain a 6-7% body fat all year round
always pop up in steroid threads? Why can't they? If someone who is skinny year-round adds, let's say, 10 pounds of muscle, why couldn't they cut back calories until they're 6-7% BF and keep it that way?
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>>35513227
They would lose their muscle and look depleted, when fat levels get that low your body senses it as starvation going on and literally eats the gainz because we have evolved to live not to look jacked
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>>35512734

He used anavar though.
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>>35513227
Because your body will start to consume your muscles for energy if you're natty. Also you'll look fucking anorexic as a natty at 6%.

I don't think you quite understand how insanely low 6% bf is, i can promise you you've never met anyone that low unless they have an eating disorder.
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>>35511205
>admittedly fucked up
>expects us to take him seriously
lellllllllll
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>>35513273
He tried a var only cycle and quit early because the side effects.
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>>35512567
Don't speak about things you don't understand.

I've done extensive research on hypothyroidism/endocrine system shut down and there are no intances of permanent shut down with proper intervention.

If he wanted to hop off he could take triptorellin, a GNRH Modulator.

He could also take clomid on top of that for his HPTA
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>>35513276
>>35513269
Just to be clear, I'm not trying to argue one way or the other but I'm trying to exhaust the possibility.

Couldn't someone avoid their body cannibalizing itself by eating at-or-close to TDEE and being on point with protein consumption?

Why would the body look to muscles for energy if it's getting it through food?
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>>35512874
I have done 500mg per week and there was no sides coming of it was nothing like people said about depression and shit.

Low dose of test aint shit, on test lifts never went up huge amounts did dbol for 3 weeks got my DL from 200kg for 1 to 220kg for 6, kept my one rep at 230kg and aint been on anything for over a year.

But test was a bit shit go all out if you roid low test dose just makes you bloat and get a bit spotty.
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>>35513295
I see, I only heard he used var. Didn't know about the quick cycle. Tiny looked so fucking good though, very aesthetic.
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>>35513337

Whatever makes you feel better about destroying your balls dude
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>>35513380
Taking HCG can reverse any testicular shrinkage and sperm count loss.

Anything else?
Enlarged heart, high blood pressure, high hematocrit?

Regular blood work, minimizing saturated fat intake, and cardiovascular exercise will mitigate most health effects.
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>>35511623
JM is like late thirties going on forties.

>>35511527
There are some chems that can get your luteinizing hormone going again. Most of them are used in PCT. Iirc triptorelin is like the miracle worker one that gets goads going after years of abuse.
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>>35513420
>JM is like late thirties going on forties.

Are you serious? That just makes him even more pathetic.
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>>35512621
deep
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>>35511335
kek
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>>35513419
OP here

What happens when I just come off and take nolva for a month?

Is HCG needed?
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>this dude again
>roiding for this
>potentionaly risking the life for this "kind of look"
TOP KEK

>tfw when you roid but still look like a shit
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>>35514310
there is a reason he's wearing a hat

bald as fuck
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>>35512881
Nice cherry picking to you too faggot
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i'm getting really discouraged reading all this
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/test-levels-and-pct-after-year-long-cycle

seems like i truly am fucked
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>>35514333
>implying that matters with his body
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>>35513156

2 years and i am twice as big as this fuccboi
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>>35512902
No it's not. Unless you have done other sports before lifting and keept a somewhat clean diet you definitely won't be looking like this one year after lifting.
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conclusion of this thread: OP is fucked and should probably stay on for life
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>>35514409
That was the point you retarded fuck
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>>35514575
>inb4 30% bf "powerlifter"
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>>35513295
Var doesn't have side effects kek
Stop posting kiddo
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>>35512696
>his body in that pic is achievabl
u forgot Kappa
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>>35514527
this anon's pic is pretty much natty limit
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>>35514828
Lol okay. You try running a var cycle without a test base and tell me how you feel you little cum guzzler

>orals don't have side effects
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>>35514832
>bradley martyn is natty limit

Please kill yourself so you don't post any more misinformation on this board
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>>35514802
13%
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>>35514907
Why would you need a test base, var doesn't aromatize so it won't affect your natural test levels.
I didnt say all orals retard, we're only talking about var which compared to other orals is the mildest
Seriously stop posting
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>>35514953
post pic
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>>35514981
I am on mobile Phone rn, but i look similar to zyzz sizewise
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>>35515008
>on mobile phone

then take a pic with your phone and post it, you idiot
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the thing is this: cycling is fucking useless, by the time you are recovered and ready for a new cycle, you lost all those gains

blast and cruise is the way to go for a great physique, but you will literally destroy your testicles

a sane person concludes that bodybuilding is a horrible hobby and takes up something else
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>>35515113

this
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>>35515008
i am willing to bet a lot of money you look nothing like zyzz you e-statting fucking virgin
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Nobody is giving any legit advice in this thread.
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>>35514988
>i missed JM
I go away for 4 fucking months and miss it... now when I try to pull up archived threads they're all gone
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>>35514832
holy shit, how delusional are you?

>>35515008
Bull shit. Let's see a pic with a timestamp.
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>>35513464
SHOO SHOO GAINS GOBLIN
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>>35515304
What?
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well I'm a complete drug addict as well but honestly you're just sounding like a little crybaby

you knew the risks and you did it anyway

this is no different than some guy slamming heroin then waaaa I'm addicted I'm constantly avoiding withdrawing waa I can't feel happy without drugs waaa HoW ON EARTH DID THIS HAPPEN I SIMPLY AM SHOCKED THIS IS SO SURPRISING

if you want to take risks like you have then you need to be aware and informed of the consequences. idiots think they know it all or it wont happen to them or they simply don't care - and they pay the price

no sympathy desu
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This thread was an eye opener. I literally didn't know about this information before now. Why isn't it more common to warn about this?!
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i been on since probably 17. Took prohormons and then took test etc all types of shit just recently came off. I''m 21 and 3 into pct and got my blood back and my test is currently at 427. LH is 9 and FSH at 5. Regarding my high levels of LH im thinking my body is still recovering untill i hit my natty T peak. U Mirin fags
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anyone on TRT here ?
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