Is drinking 15-20 beers a day wrecking my gains? Been doing this

>>35502206
Nah, just your liver, don't worry

>>35502206
post a picture of yourself

>>35502206
Yeah I wouldn't drink more than 8 a day

>>35502206
if you're a manlet than yes

>>35502206
Should be fine, I've topped out at 25 or so a day for the past three months and actually saw my lifts go up a little (on a cut, too)

>>35502206
What the fuck is your lifestyle

>>35502206
U wot m8? That's way too many calories

>>35502277
Work from 8-5 pm, gym 6pm-7 or 7:30 than go home and drink from around 8pm until around 2am than wake up repeat

I was drinking 10 a day for a while and got chubby

>>35502206
Firstly, that's at least 1500-2000 calories a day, and that's assuming you only drink light beer, so that's reaching an average TDEE without any food whatsoever. It automatically puts you on a bulk, drinking that much.
Secondly, alcohol reduces testosterone, so there's that
Alcohol gets metabolized into sugar and body fat, so its like the dirtiest bulk you can do.
And finally, it inhibits protein synthesis, so even if you do lift, you're automatically getting less gains to your muscles.

Alcohol is pure anti-/fit/
And this is coming from an alcoholic, so I know. You could lose 20 lbs in 2 months just giving up alcohol alone.

Honestly it fucks your recovery. I've confined drinking to friday and saturday nights only and I've found that my recovery is substantially better.

>>35502374
>alcohol reduces test

wot

>>35502264
You realize 25 beers a day means you are never sober right?

>>35502448
Who'd want to be sober?

Most sucessful bodybuilders drink about 12-15 beers a day. I would say 20 is too much, cut down to about 15 and you'll be fine.

>>35502448
>what is tolerance?
It means you're never below .08BAC, but you're rarely ever drunk

Its fine, OP.

I drink 10-15 beers and a quart of whiskey daily and im healthier and bigger than ever.

>Not doing Gallon of Everclear A Day
>Thinking you'll make it
Get on my level

>>35502526
Literally 24/7 skin drying a way liver expanded working overtime.

>>35502422
http://www.anabolicmen.com/alcohol-testosterone/
Several studies prove it.

The most commonly noticed aspect is called "whiskey dick"

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>>35502206
you must have some bomb ass genetics.

I was drinkng 3-4 beers a night, and going to the gym 5 days a week, and I gained 10 pounds....much of it fat...some muscle

>>35502515
>citation needed
Just because arnold drank a bunch doesn't mean they all do.

>>35502562
Most of them.

>>35502553
whiskey dick has nothing to do with testosterone. you've literally drank so much that your body can't properly sustain an erection.

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>>35502206
>Drinking the expensive liquid jew

Buy malt liquor senpai

>Doesn't fill you up as much
>Tastes like shit, but not if really cold
>Get fucked up with 2-3 tall boys
>$1.50 a can
>Save money, save calories, be buzzed all day

Never going back to the mainstream beer

>>35502581
Just ass chug vodka no calories and your gonna be rekt

>>35502264
You realize it's impossible to be on a cut while drinking that much, right?
The average light beer has over 100 calories.
Meaning, even if you only drank light beer, you were getting 2500 calories from drinking alone.
Unless you were already 350+lbs, and you completely neglected eating any food whatsoever, you were on a calorie surplus.

You have to factor in what you drink as well as what you eat into your TDEE. Getting 2500 calories a day from drinking makes cutting impossible.

>Tl;dr you're full of shit

>>35502570
You didn't even read the link, did you?
Testosterone levels have a lot to do with whether or not you can get an erection. Low testosterone lowers your sex drive. If you have a low sex drive, you can't get an erection.
It isn't some magic at work, like God punishing your boner for drinking.

>>35502542
This is what Americans believe

>>35502613
If he's active enough it's not a problem

>>35502581
2-3 tall boys

that's like 1700 calories you fucking idiot. I bet you are on a perma bulk, you undisciplined animal.

>>35502650
Active enough to burn 2500 calories every day?
You realize how unrealistic that is?

>>35502658
Nah, I'm an alcoholic so I barely eat actual food

155 lbs here

>>35502666
>implying the people ITT who defend drinking all day every day, aren't making up excuses because they do it too

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>>35502206
I drink one vodka shot after exercise for maximum gains
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23470309

>>35502711
Barely any meaning less than 300 calories every day?

>>35502666
You don't need to eat that much food if you're filling up on beer, therefore you don't necessarily need to burn 2500 kcal.

>>35502631
>2016
>not edging for hours after getting home from a night of drinking

stay pleb beta

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How the fuck can you cut and drink beer, unless you're drinking some american piss.
Decent beer is 50 - 70kcal per 10cl, so if you take 4 beers (1.33L), not even that much, that's 800kcal of pure sugar

>>35502854
No

so i should bulk with beer?
sounds awesome

>>35502785
I've gone days without food, so yes

/ck/ AA reporting in

Absolutely

That's 2k plus calories a day and additional strain on your bodies metabolizing process and other shit

>>35502815
>>35502899

Beer gets metabolized differently than food, making it the dirtiest bulk you can imagine.
Sure you'll get bigger, but you'll have a massive beer gut and gyno.

>>35502910
N G M I
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>>35502931
Broscience - The post

Beers are rich in micronutrients. "Beer gut" comes from alcohol raising appetite and people eating more when they drink (thus accumulate more fat)

>>35503010
>35503010
>implying that beer is good for any diet

Look, I love beer. good beer. But it doesn't have any place in anyones diet, unless you can have 1 in a night. But when I have 1, it usually turns into 2-3. Because it's delicious, and I lack self control if I have it. I am cutting, but am probably going to drink once a week...maybe. Maybe no drinking for a while.

>>35503010
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdominal_obesity
Studies literally show that alcohol alone causes an increase in your beer gut.

Broscience would be claiming that "nah man, it just happens from getting hungry when you're drunk!"
What, do you think alcohol has zero calories, and doesn't get metabolized into body fat? That's not bro science, that's retardation.

>>35503101
>Studies literally show that alcohol alone causes an increase in your beer gut.

From the link you posted

>Several colloquial terms used to refer to central obesity, and to people who have it, refer to beer drinking. However, there is little scientific evidence that beer drinkers are more prone to central obesity, despite its being known colloquially as "beer belly‚" "beer gut‚" or "beer pot". One of the few studies conducted on the subject did not find that beer drinkers are more prone to central obesity than nondrinkers or drinkers of wine or spirits.

>>35503129
Also from the link
>A study has shown that alcohol consumption is directly associated with waist circumference and with a higher risk of abdominal obesity in men, but not in women, in the present population.
Also
>Chronic alcoholism can lead to cirrhosis, symptoms of which include gynecomastia (enlarged breasts) and ascites (abdominal fluid). These symptoms can suggest the appearance of central obesity.

>>35503173
>Also from the link
>>A study has shown that alcohol consumption is directly associated with waist circumference and with a higher risk of abdominal obesity in men, but not in women, in the present population.

Quote the rest too dumbass
>After controlling for energy under-reporting, it was observed that increasing alcohol consumption significantly increased the risk of exceeding recommended energy intakes in male participants

They ate more when they drank alocohol (what I said before and what you said is broscience)

Mirin your drinking skill OP

>>35502206
Just drink high proof liquor ffs

>>35503245
So I guess you're right.
Alcohol has zero calories and you can drink 25 drinks a day without gaining any weight. It just so happens that alcoholics eat twice as much food as everyone else and that's where the extra calories come from.

>mfw you assume excess energy intakes mean food and not alcohol

>>35503245
A normal person eats 2000 calories a day.
An alcoholic eats 2000 calories a day. An alcoholic also drinks 2000 calories a day. Giving them an extra 2000 calories of energy intake.

Are you seriously so retarded to think that alcohol expands your stomach so you magically eat two or three times the normal human?

>binge drinking
>making it

Pick one.

>>35503495
>alcohol has zero calories

>>35503592
15 beer isn't binge drinking

>>35503607
That's what he's implying.
He's saying the extra energy intake which causes beer gut comes solely from the food people eat when they're drunk, and not from the alcohol itself.
Lrn2read.

>>35502206
Are you 300 pounds? That's, conservatively, an extra 2,000 calories.

Alcohol has calories but your body is not able to convert alcohol into anything your body can use (not even fat) so it's meaningless to think in terms of the energy content of alcohol. Your organs break down alcohol into metabolites that must eventually be excreted. Whilst your organs are doing this, they are not doing other things like protein synthesis and fat burning.

Beer of course also contains carbs (but not sugar)

Damn op I thought I drank a lot and I only drink a 12 pack a night

>>35504030
nice strawman there faggot

of course if they are in a calorie surplus, they will gain weight, but it's not because of the BEER CALORIEZ that you get a beer gut, which he was saying all along, and to which you posted a link which proved him right.

>>35504239
12 everyday is still quite a bit

>>35503864
>15 beers
>not binge drinking
>being this much of an alcoholic

>>35504270
All the link says is that it's from an excess of calories, which he assumed to come solely from food while drunk. As per >>35503245
So supposedly drinking an excess 1500 calories a day doesn't make you fat. It's those peanuts at the bar that do it.
>hurr durr repeating someone's argument as they presented it is a straw man
You're a special kind of retard, aren't you?

>>35504482
>to come solely from food while drunk
please do quote where it was written that it comes SOLELY from food

>>35504504
Here
>>35503010

>drinking that much
>drinking that much beer

You need to switch to vodka if you can't quit alcohol for a while.

>>35504537
This

If you're casually drinking that much a night you're an alcoholic and you have more problems than just your gains anon

Seek help

>>35502206
maybe chill and drop it to 3-4 bud

>>35505029
He likes to party

>>35505067
to an alcoholic 3-4 is just a teaser and will make them want to chug more

I drink 3 quality beers (7% ABV) and I'm drunk. you either need to quit drinking piss water or cut back.

>>35505313
I drink Alexander keiths, Canadafag

>>35502206
>15-20 beers a day

jesus...

>>35502854
>le amurkkkan piss beer may may
we have more variety of beers than anywhere on the planet now. it's not 1970 anymore. there are some high abv/good calorie beers to be drinking. alcohol is empty calories but if you're going to drink, there's some "good ratio" ones.

if you're looking to get blasted then stick to clears. vodka, white rum, gin are ok

>>35505418
>we have more variety of beers than anywhere on the planet now

Americans really are stupid.

>>35505313
SKELETON MANLET DETECTED

>>35505408
Americans think that's impossible kek

>>35505525

I'm not American, I just think it's insanely unhealthy, and pointless.

>>35505569
>getting drunk and having fun is pointless

whatever you say m80

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>>35505581

I didn't say that you dumb fuck. I said drinking 15-20 beers a day is fucking stupid.

If you want to get drunk and have fun, spread out some spirits instead of drinking the fuck out of those calories.

>needing to get drunk to have fun

I remember being 20 too.

>>35502910
what are you even doing on /fit/?

>>35505616
>having fun sober

I remember being 12

>>35505637

You know how pathetic that makes you sound right?

>>35505649
Kinda hard to have fun sober past the age of 12 kiddo

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>>35505637

>not being able to have fun sober

I don't ever remember being this autistic.

>>35505657
>Kinda hard to have fun sober

This is why nobody really likes you.

>>35505697
All adults do is drink and do drugs kid

>>35502581
Posting that shit tier nigger "beer" Get some liquor. Bourbon, rum, or ideally vodka if you're fat. 3-4 shots and you're good.

>>35505731

This is exactly what a kid who had his first beer last week thinks.

>>35505731

Yeah you sound like one of those annoying faggots who does drugs like coke and goes out annoying the fuck out of people.

Do some mushrooms and go camping or something you douche.

when i go back to uni on the 10th my daily routine goes back to going to class from 7:30-12:20. Eating lunch then opening up a 30 rack and then drinking until I pass out. Wake up repeat.

>>35505803
LOL been drinking for 10 years, probably drink more in a week than you do in a year

>>35505850
That's not something to be proud of anon

The first step to solving a problem is admitting you have one

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>>35505850

>I destroy my liver more than you do ha ha!

holy fuck you're an imbecile

I feel for you dude. You could be an alcoholic, only you can say so. I enjoy life much more clean. Drank and drugged the last 12 years then the last six years of it had been shooting heroin . My life was pathetic. Then I got clean and I'm so happy now. I hid behind drugs because I was scared of life and that I wasn't good enough. Now I know I am

>>35505860
Having fun is no problem to me brah

>>35505850
>drink more in a week than you do in a year

>bragging about having no self control and destroying your liver while increasing the chances of getting kidney stones soon while lowering your test

Congratulations?

>>35505881

It will be when you run into your inevitable liver failure.

Being able to drink a lot is not something you should be proud of unless you're in your early 20s with very little education.

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>>35505569
at 15 - 20 beer a day you stopped having fun a long time ago.

>>35505850

You're a douchebag, and this is coming from an alcoholic.

>>35505581
>>35505904
this for you

>>35505914
Clearly you're not a proud alcoholic

>>35505904

yeah now it's just escaping reality

I am suprised u still alive desu baka senpai

>>35503864
4 beers in a night is categorized as binge drinking.

>>35505931
How does drinking make you escape reality? You're talking about lsd

>>35502631
Then why do meat heads wanna fight when they drink?

>>35505923

Of course now. Unlike you I know that I'm not drinking 20 beers a day to "have fun".

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>>35502666
Listen here Satan...
I cut at 3000 cal/day. 6'2'' 170lb <10% bf (electric impedance scale says ~8%, calipers ~5%)
You just have to exercise retarded hard/often and not succumb to sloth, the least /fit/ of the sins.

>>35505939

not escaping reality to open your mind

escaping reality to escape your crippling depression - ie drinking 20 beers a day under the guise of having fun

>>35505950
Alcohol makes everything more fun

The guy i work out with is yoked as fuck. He swears post and sometimes pre-workout drinking is the way to go. Buzzed not drunk. Citation:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23470309

>>35505850

If you're the guy bragging about 15-20 beers a day then you should kill yourself.

Real men drink spiritis, and bragging about beer just shows what a pathetic college kid you are.

Grow up.

>>35505967
except the next day.

>>35505989
I'm not OP and I don't drink beer I drink Vodka and everclear

>>35505967

Your life must be miserable.

>>35506001
>everclear

fatass

the sheer quantities of alcohol and liquids in this thread are bizarre and incomprehensible. I don't even get how you could fit those volumes of carbonated liquid in you.

I thought it was kind of sad i enjoyed a few shots of vodka and pickles or a say 7cl of whisky about once every weekend. Now I feel like a puritain instead.

>>35505967
Alcohol is toxic and damages your brain and it shuts off parts of your processing causing one to function different. When you're under the influence of alcohol long enough you have an altered reality - and you can get addicted to this reality, queue the alcoholic.

>>35506024
>doesn't know what everclear is

>>35505850
Bragging about drinking is a sure sign of immaturity.

>>35506029
You're just a bitch

>>35506034

>drinking grains

>>35505939
It just makes you comfortably numb enough to forget your problems for the night.

>>35505850

You sound like such a fucking faggot.

>>35505961

this guy gets it

>>35506127

Well I'm not like that guy, but once a week I'll have 2 sixpacks of beer with some shots of tequila or whiskey while playing video games, and I'm nowhere near depressed.

But that's once a week, mostly a fortnight though.

>>35506065
It makes me think more about any problem I have than I deal with it while drunk

I get shit done when drunk son

>>35506163
You are most certainly an exception to the average solo drinker.

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>>35502206
https://www.reddit.com/r/cripplingalcoholism/comments/yx4ga/cas_and_nutrition_reference_guide/

from one of the few less cancerous communities on reddit.

also just in case:

https://www.reddit.com/r/cripplingalcoholism/comments/z42l8/cas_and_vomiting_blood/

>>35506163
>>35506184

samefag

>>35506184
Who doesn't get shit done when drunk?

>>35506151
That's nothing

>>35506329

Yeah I like drinking while playing vidya once in a while, and I rarely get shitfaced when I go out. I'm pretty well behaved when I go out. I used to go crazy when I was younger, but I've learned how to control myself.

Bragging about drinking is just pathetic imo.

>>35506393
Real men drink

>>35506495

And only boys brag about it.

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>>35506542

>>35502325
livin life man

>>35506201
No it wasn't.

>>35506254
Most alcoholics. Fuck, most people.

>>35506576
I get things done when drunk, I don't know what it is but when I'm drunk I get everything that needs to be done done, it gives me an extra motivation kick

I got my current job while drunk because I was sick of making 22.50$ an hour

>>35506597
>sick of making $22.50 an hour

ungrateful swine

>>35506632
I'm 28 that's children's pay after being there for 2 years

I manage a welding company now and make more than twice that much thanks for being drunk and going to the owners house and having a few drinks with him

>>35505960
is that the type of lifestyle you presume someone who drinks 25 beers/day to lead?