Is drinking 15-20 beers a day wrecking my gains? Been doing this for a year or so now
Firstly, that's at least 1500-2000 calories a day, and that's assuming you only drink light beer, so that's reaching an average TDEE without any food whatsoever. It automatically puts you on a bulk, drinking that much.
Secondly, alcohol reduces testosterone, so there's that
Alcohol gets metabolized into sugar and body fat, so its like the dirtiest bulk you can do.
And finally, it inhibits protein synthesis, so even if you do lift, you're automatically getting less gains to your muscles.
Alcohol is pure anti-/fit/
And this is coming from an alcoholic, so I know. You could lose 20 lbs in 2 months just giving up alcohol alone.
you must have some bomb ass genetics.
I was drinkng 3-4 beers a night, and going to the gym 5 days a week, and I gained 10 pounds....much of it fat...some muscle
>Drinking the expensive liquid jew
Buy malt liquor senpai
>Doesn't fill you up as much
>Tastes like shit, but not if really cold
>Get fucked up with 2-3 tall boys
>$1.50 a can
>Save money, save calories, be buzzed all day
Never going back to the mainstream beer
You realize it's impossible to be on a cut while drinking that much, right?
The average light beer has over 100 calories.
Meaning, even if you only drank light beer, you were getting 2500 calories from drinking alone.
Unless you were already 350+lbs, and you completely neglected eating any food whatsoever, you were on a calorie surplus.
You have to factor in what you drink as well as what you eat into your TDEE. Getting 2500 calories a day from drinking makes cutting impossible.
>Tl;dr you're full of shit
You didn't even read the link, did you?
Testosterone levels have a lot to do with whether or not you can get an erection. Low testosterone lowers your sex drive. If you have a low sex drive, you can't get an erection.
It isn't some magic at work, like God punishing your boner for drinking.
I drink one vodka shot after exercise for maximum gains
How the fuck can you cut and drink beer, unless you're drinking some american piss.
Decent beer is 50 - 70kcal per 10cl, so if you take 4 beers (1.33L), not even that much, that's 800kcal of pure sugar
>implying that beer is good for any diet
Look, I love beer. good beer. But it doesn't have any place in anyones diet, unless you can have 1 in a night. But when I have 1, it usually turns into 2-3. Because it's delicious, and I lack self control if I have it. I am cutting, but am probably going to drink once a week...maybe. Maybe no drinking for a while.
Studies literally show that alcohol alone causes an increase in your beer gut.
Broscience would be claiming that "nah man, it just happens from getting hungry when you're drunk!"
What, do you think alcohol has zero calories, and doesn't get metabolized into body fat? That's not bro science, that's retardation.
>Studies literally show that alcohol alone causes an increase in your beer gut.
From the link you posted
>Several colloquial terms used to refer to central obesity, and to people who have it, refer to beer drinking. However, there is little scientific evidence that beer drinkers are more prone to central obesity, despite its being known colloquially as "beer belly‚" "beer gut‚" or "beer pot". One of the few studies conducted on the subject did not find that beer drinkers are more prone to central obesity than nondrinkers or drinkers of wine or spirits.
Also from the link
>A study has shown that alcohol consumption is directly associated with waist circumference and with a higher risk of abdominal obesity in men, but not in women, in the present population.
>Chronic alcoholism can lead to cirrhosis, symptoms of which include gynecomastia (enlarged breasts) and ascites (abdominal fluid). These symptoms can suggest the appearance of central obesity.
>Also from the link
>>A study has shown that alcohol consumption is directly associated with waist circumference and with a higher risk of abdominal obesity in men, but not in women, in the present population.
Quote the rest too dumbass
>After controlling for energy under-reporting, it was observed that increasing alcohol consumption significantly increased the risk of exceeding recommended energy intakes in male participants
They ate more when they drank alocohol (what I said before and what you said is broscience)
So I guess you're right.
Alcohol has zero calories and you can drink 25 drinks a day without gaining any weight. It just so happens that alcoholics eat twice as much food as everyone else and that's where the extra calories come from.
>mfw you assume excess energy intakes mean food and not alcohol
A normal person eats 2000 calories a day.
An alcoholic eats 2000 calories a day. An alcoholic also drinks 2000 calories a day. Giving them an extra 2000 calories of energy intake.
Are you seriously so retarded to think that alcohol expands your stomach so you magically eat two or three times the normal human?
That's what he's implying.
He's saying the extra energy intake which causes beer gut comes solely from the food people eat when they're drunk, and not from the alcohol itself.
Alcohol has calories but your body is not able to convert alcohol into anything your body can use (not even fat) so it's meaningless to think in terms of the energy content of alcohol. Your organs break down alcohol into metabolites that must eventually be excreted. Whilst your organs are doing this, they are not doing other things like protein synthesis and fat burning.
Beer of course also contains carbs (but not sugar)
nice strawman there faggot
of course if they are in a calorie surplus, they will gain weight, but it's not because of the BEER CALORIEZ that you get a beer gut, which he was saying all along, and to which you posted a link which proved him right.
All the link says is that it's from an excess of calories, which he assumed to come solely from food while drunk. As per >>35503245
So supposedly drinking an excess 1500 calories a day doesn't make you fat. It's those peanuts at the bar that do it.
>hurr durr repeating someone's argument as they presented it is a straw man
You're a special kind of retard, aren't you?
>le amurkkkan piss beer may may
we have more variety of beers than anywhere on the planet now. it's not 1970 anymore. there are some high abv/good calorie beers to be drinking. alcohol is empty calories but if you're going to drink, there's some "good ratio" ones.
if you're looking to get blasted then stick to clears. vodka, white rum, gin are ok
I didn't say that you dumb fuck. I said drinking 15-20 beers a day is fucking stupid.
If you want to get drunk and have fun, spread out some spirits instead of drinking the fuck out of those calories.
>needing to get drunk to have fun
I remember being 20 too.
>not being able to have fun sober
I don't ever remember being this autistic.
>I destroy my liver more than you do ha ha!
holy fuck you're an imbecile
I feel for you dude. You could be an alcoholic, only you can say so. I enjoy life much more clean. Drank and drugged the last 12 years then the last six years of it had been shooting heroin . My life was pathetic. Then I got clean and I'm so happy now. I hid behind drugs because I was scared of life and that I wasn't good enough. Now I know I am
>drink more in a week than you do in a year
>bragging about having no self control and destroying your liver while increasing the chances of getting kidney stones soon while lowering your test
It will be when you run into your inevitable liver failure.
Being able to drink a lot is not something you should be proud of unless you're in your early 20s with very little education.
at 15 - 20 beer a day you stopped having fun a long time ago.
Listen here Satan...
I cut at 3000 cal/day. 6'2'' 170lb <10% bf (electric impedance scale says ~8%, calipers ~5%)
You just have to exercise retarded hard/often and not succumb to sloth, the least /fit/ of the sins.
If you're the guy bragging about 15-20 beers a day then you should kill yourself.
Real men drink spiritis, and bragging about beer just shows what a pathetic college kid you are.
the sheer quantities of alcohol and liquids in this thread are bizarre and incomprehensible. I don't even get how you could fit those volumes of carbonated liquid in you.
I thought it was kind of sad i enjoyed a few shots of vodka and pickles or a say 7cl of whisky about once every weekend. Now I feel like a puritain instead.
Alcohol is toxic and damages your brain and it shuts off parts of your processing causing one to function different. When you're under the influence of alcohol long enough you have an altered reality - and you can get addicted to this reality, queue the alcoholic.
Well I'm not like that guy, but once a week I'll have 2 sixpacks of beer with some shots of tequila or whiskey while playing video games, and I'm nowhere near depressed.
But that's once a week, mostly a fortnight though.
from one of the few less cancerous communities on reddit.
also just in case:
Yeah I like drinking while playing vidya once in a while, and I rarely get shitfaced when I go out. I'm pretty well behaved when I go out. I used to go crazy when I was younger, but I've learned how to control myself.
Bragging about drinking is just pathetic imo.
I get things done when drunk, I don't know what it is but when I'm drunk I get everything that needs to be done done, it gives me an extra motivation kick
I got my current job while drunk because I was sick of making 22.50$ an hour
I'm 28 that's children's pay after being there for 2 years
I manage a welding company now and make more than twice that much thanks for being drunk and going to the owners house and having a few drinks with him