How to achieve Lucifer mode. Pic related

>not doing starting scripture
>laughing seraphim.engrave

File: image.jpg (16KB, 426x240px) Image search: [Google]

16KB, 426x240px

>>29514966
>mfw I'm mirin the devil

>>29514966
I like where this thread is going

Interesting how Lucifer was God's most beautiful angel and he rebelled against God.

Must be due to narcissism.

>>29515549
God was jelly

File: trainlikesatan.jpg (79KB, 468x550px) Image search: [Google]

79KB, 468x550px

It don't come easy.

>>29515566
Speaking of jelly, miron dem doubledubs, faggot. :^)

>>29515566
I'm pretty sure it's because lucifer was jelly of Jesus's easy gains because of godly genetics.

>>29515628
>lucifer is a manlet who jelly of jesus & godly genes

File: 0tdBbtd.jpg (44KB, 300x229px) Image search: [Google]

44KB, 300x229px

>>29515593

Man, Satan has the shittiest insertions.

If you think about, Satan is one of the good guys.

>>29514966
you'll need an omnipotent training partner, then
>creation (1xf)

File: 1410915737361.jpg (76KB, 500x536px) Image search: [Google]

76KB, 500x536px

>>29515677
Amen!

>>29515831
It doesn't take much thought to realise that he's not...

>>29515851
crossfitfag.jpg

>>29517070

>Devil rebels against god
>God kills almost everyone on earth
>Bible says Devil is bad and god is good
>Bible inspired by god

I mean I shouldnt have to say more

>>29514966
skullcrushers 66x6
deadlifts 6x66
crossfit 666x F

>>29515517

10/10 reply

>>29517118
>Satan number 1 angel.
>Satan not satisfied and wants more
>Satan banished
>God creates his masterpiece (man)
>Bitter satan corrupts man
>God allows man to eat forbidden fruit (although could have stopped him)
>God gives man chance to own up to mistake, but like a douche, Adam blames Eve and Eve blames snake.
They have nobody else to blame but themselves

>>29517203

Again bible is inspired by god so were only hearing one side. God made adam and eve perfect yet they still disobeyed. So if disobediance is in gods definition of perfect why did he punish them?

>>29517264

Gods idea of perfection*

>>29517264
Punishment is not inflicted by God. It's not like he pulls a hit iron poker out of the fire and shoves it up your ass. "Anguish in this flame" (hell) is a state of no communion with God. That is something that is up to us. God is willing to accept us. But if we don't accept him then we damn ourselves. That is the eternal torment. When you are cut off and you cannot have a relationship with the father because you were too foolish to do so when you had the chance.

As for "perfection". Well that's a catholic understanding of the word and they like black/white language. Adam was on his way to the top and to godliness, but wasn't created at the top

>>29514966
Well considering Lucifer was God's most beautiful +perfect archangel until his rebellion its kind of hard to match.

Interesting how pride, envy and a perfect self-image are interrelated in this sense... eh /fit/

>>29517373
/fit/ proven for the work of the devil

>>29517332

>God creates me without asking me if I want to participate in his business
>Now have to decide wether to kiss gods ass or burn in hell
>Implying I was given a choice

Even so, your bible then does not decide wether or not someone goes to heaven based on how "good" a person is but instead if theyre willing to accept god as their master. Fair enough

File: 1415257115556.jpg (7KB, 164x232px) Image search: [Google]

7KB, 164x232px

ITT
Law fags vs chaos fags
Truly the biggest plebs

>>29517389
Nobody goes to heaven for being good because good isn't the goal of Christianity. It's a nice side effect for (some) who practice the religion but we all have a few Muslim friends who are good people. You don't need the church to be a good person... Rather, the goal of Christianity is to "be holy, as I am holy". THAT is impossible without God and his church.

Also.. how the fuck is this even remotely /fit/ related?

>>29515040
Underrated.

File: Patrick_Bateman Christian Bale.jpg (96KB, 496x634px) Image search: [Google]

96KB, 496x634px

>>29514966
>Lucifer mode
>Satanic dubs

THIS IS IT

>>29517203
So, that warrants the deaths of everyone on Earth? And the animals too? No, God's clearly evil.

>>29517203
Satan gave knowledge to humanity by giving Eve the fruit from the forbidden tree. Because of Satan, humanity gained knowledge of good and evil, according to Genesis. Since we couldn't have possessed knowledge of good and evil before eating the fruit, Adam and Eve couldn't have known that eating the fruit was evil, so it seems a little harsh to punish them as severely as God did. Satan gave humans true capacity for moral judgment, unlike God, who simply expected everyone to mindlessly obey his orders.

Not sure why that's bad.

>>29517534
Its not the act.. it was the intention.

When Solomon became king, God appeared to him and told him to ask for a gift, as God wanted to give him one for his coronation. Solomon asked for knowledge between right and wrong. But he did this so he could be a good king and lead Israel as God wanted it to be lead. He asked for knowledge to be a better servant. He was justified by this action.
Whereas adam and eve was seduced into gaining the knowledge of right and wrong because they wanted to be more than they were. They were told they would become like God himself if they ate it. It was arrogance and selfish pride. They were condemned.

Exact same thing. Different intention.

>>29517203
>God made satan knowing he would do this
>still did it

>>29517578

Where it get's really weird is that God didn't give his angels freedom of will like he gave humans.

So, Lucifer was doing exactly as God wanted him to.

>>29517575

Solomon wished for wisdom, not knowledge. Totally different, broski. Still didn't stop him from building altars to Chemosh and Astarte.

File: 1398590541296.png (6KB, 227x191px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 227x191px

>>29517641
>mfw satan is false-flagging for god in order to keep us all down on the farm

>>29517658
Makes sense if you consider that Satan and Lucifer are two different characters. Satan being the Accuser, his job being to ferret out the unfaithful.

File: community_image_1411848889.gif (2MB, 600x338px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 600x338px

ITT: /fit/ acting like it knows something about the bible.

>>29517641
He did. Free will is a part of the soul and a soul is basically all an angel is.. many angels chose to follow Satan. Many chose the love of humans.
>>29517655
No humans perfect. He was warned not to take a foreign wife for that reason. But he did anyway and fucked things up irreparabley for his kids. Knowledge/wisdom.. whatever man. It's not like adam and eve were given ""knowledge"" of things like geology or some shit. It was the power to know between right and wrong. In that case it's basically just a different way of saying wisdom

File: foundaway.jpg (48KB, 640x474px) Image search: [Google]

48KB, 640x474px

>>29517575
>They were told they would become like God himself if they ate it.

Not him, but amazing how true this came out to be.

>mfw immortality by 2030s
>be a demigod while religious people die because they will be against transhumanism

>>29517698
What's there to know about the bible? I'm baptized, got my communion and confirmed yet I've never even read an entire book from, let alone the whole, bible.

>>29517713
I want to shoot fire and sulphur out of my angus

Inb4 jokes about indian food

>>29517706

Debatable

The angels in heaven perform the commandments of God with full obedience (Psalm 103:20-21)

>>29517761

Hey I bet you like curry.

>>29517775
Agreed on the debatable part.

It's just as likely that it's their choosing. As early in genesis angels chose to take a human form and mary humans, thus leaving God behind
>>29517778
It is one of the few things I absolutely refuse to eat

>>29517534
>>29517578
>>29517658
The Devil's job is to tempt people away from god in some teachings he exists to be the other side of the coin and actually give free will a purpose. He work's all day tempting and still no one gives him props for being an asshole.

>>29517798

I always liked the theory that each Angel represents a facet of God's mind and psyche; a component of his will.

>>29517807
More of a jewish teaching then Christian.

Fuck what they think.. They only saw a man when they saw Christ hanging from the cross. Still do

>>29517807
THANK YOU BASED SATAN

File: aliens.gif (2MB, 480x271px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 480x271px

>>29517823
>there are jewish people alive that saw jesus die on the cross that still aren't convinced

Explains alot

>>29517822
Well that would lend reason to why bit all of the heavenly hosts are the same (cherubim, seraphin, angels, archangels, powers, dominions, orders, thrones and.... one more... principalities? Fucked if I know..)

Anyways... I'm out of this thread. This isn't /fit/ related at all

>>29517471
Gods an alpha male who does what the fuck he wants. If you don't like it, burn in hell pussy fedora.

File: 61905b01-15ad-4b18-8d22-98ed2cf31.jpg (258KB, 1500x1125px) Image search: [Google]

258KB, 1500x1125px

>>29517203
>christfag detected

niggar please don't even give me this omnipotent omnicient omnipresent bullshit and tell me he couldn't keep the devil from being a dick and fucking up his creation he liked so much

If there is an all powerful being he is by definition apathetic or actively douchey, meaning if you believe in a higher power

>2014
>not ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

>>29518084
You "detected" that all on your own?!!!
FUCK ME ANON!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>GENIUS detected!!!!! 8==D-- - -
XDDDDDDD

>>29517070
>It doesn't take much thought to realise that he's not...

It depends on whose version. Jews: Satan is an Angel, Lucifer is a babylonian mortal king. Christians: Satan and Lucifer are conflated into a single fallen Angel. Islam: Lucifer is a Djinn, but the stuff is essentially the same except he can be redeemed.

Yazdi worship Melek Taus, who is the equivalent of the Gnostic Demiurge (who unlike the Gnostic Demiurge was granted dominion by God, not his own self-trapping ignorance), but identified as being named Shaitan.

>captcha: iphelphi sacrament

>>29518128
Fight me irl

In the mean time I demand you prove Cthulu does not lie dreaming under the Atlantic ocean

>protip: you can't

Cthulu 1
Yaweh 0

>>29518137

I am an atheist and I find all of this so cool.

>will never study scripture because no-one would employ an atheist expert on the bible.

>>29517417
Man, Lucifer was such a letdown in IV. Ugly as sin breh.

File: 1415117931631.png (334KB, 632x413px) Image search: [Google]

334KB, 632x413px

>>29518157
This Is what athiests look like (pic related). I have zero envy for you people.

>>29518163
Not necessarily. I've met a secular biblical scholar. Some institutions consider it a bonus. As you won't let personal beliefs bias your work

File: ffc1bfc0-591c-4a88-aa38-803b04137.png (224KB, 372x325px) Image search: [Google]

224KB, 372x325px

>>29518181
>can't form a decent argument
>resorts to cyber bullying
>won't even fight me irl

Fucking tripfags these days

And brah if I was that ugly it would just be sadder cause you can't even win a debate against a niggar who looks like a foot

>>29515517
ayy lmao

File: lel.jpg (25KB, 398x398px) Image search: [Google]

25KB, 398x398px

>>29514966

>2014
>still believing in fairly tales
>not being your own controller of your destiny
>yfw god and lucifer are the same person
>yfw a real god would have no emotions

>>29515628
No, Jesus was a skinny crossfit faggot and Luci didn't like crossfit skellies.

>>29521224
>Implying his carpenter forearms didn't give him dat functional strength to rip your head off.
Not just jesus, but all his fisherman apostles (hauling heavy ass nets full of fish all day) could rip the heathen out of you

File: castlevania_lords_of_shadow_2_satan_by_armachamcorp-d7f02ol.jpg (261KB, 700x700px) Image search: [Google]

261KB, 700x700px

Lucifer did SS
Starting Satan

this thread is by definition "DEVLISH TACTICS" and no one has yet mentioned it

>>29521254
newfags don't remeber this epik meme

Good people go to heaven, right? And heaven is way better than living on earth. Why is killing wrong, then? Aren't you just sending a person to a better place, assuming they were good?

>>29521343
kek, because all christfags know that heaven isnt real and when you die you really die.

>>29517332
>I love you alle unconditionally
>So I prepared a state of total and eternal anguish in case you don't love me back
>also all stillborns and unbaptised babies go directly to purgatory, because I didn't really think of that when I thought out the conditions of my unconditional love

Why not just ask him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AylGga0uZI

>>29521343
because you aren't allowing alive people to interact with that person anymore

How come you can thank god for letting your score a touchdown, but everyone looks at you weir for thanking satan?

>>29514966
>tempt Jesus 1x3

>>29517332
Every time I see you I dislike you that little bit more, Chinstrap.

Pls abandon your trip because nobody likes you.

>>29518157
Because its literaly something Lovecraft made up.
I love his work, but I don't think any of these things exist.

>>29521250

>Lucifer doing SS
>Man is created
>He can transit between strength/aesthetic routines as he pleases
>Lucifer must stick to SS for eternity due to static free will
>goat thighs, chicken calves and gyno
>he rebells

Lucifer is one of the most tragic and romantic figures literature ever known.

File: diabeł.jpg (139KB, 401x714px) Image search: [Google]

139KB, 401x714px

>>29521708

forgot pic

>>29521363
>tfw Christian
>diagnosed with fatal brain tumour at 18, only 2 weeks till I get to go to heaven while all you fags have to wait like 60 years
Awww yeaaah! U mad healthyfags?

>>29521723
>dat hairy cock
Mirin titties though

File: PartyHatFEELS.png (12KB, 160x312px) Image search: [Google]

12KB, 160x312px

>>29521774
>ouch
shhoo shoo gains goblin

>>29515831
Back to /x/ with that gnostic fan fiction

I like how many faggots here are confusing Paradise Lost with The Bible. Fuckin lel.

>>29523324
This guy gets it

File: anglet.jpg (241KB, 520x778px) Image search: [Google]

241KB, 520x778px

>>29514966

>>29517332
Love me , or burn in hell FOREVER.


Yup, sounds like a really nice god to me.
Why in the world would anyone want to listen to such a raving sociopath?
Not even including exterminating almost all of mankind or the entire sacrificing himself to himself to sneak out of a system he himself created- mindfuck FUBAR.

File: 1403143682587.jpg (44KB, 720x480px) Image search: [Google]

44KB, 720x480px

>>29517203
apples are tasty man

File: 1413076345417.jpg (109KB, 500x582px) Image search: [Google]

109KB, 500x582px

guys

guys guys guys

guys here me out

what if jesus is good but devil is good but jesus is man but god is god but jesus is god but devil is little god but god is devil but god is universe but i am universe

man...

File: a135bf1ef28711e3be650002c9561a64_8.jpg (60KB, 640x640px) Image search: [Google]

60KB, 640x640px

lol some crazy religous fanatic claims jon skywalker is satan because of his aesthetics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4WpvtmKpHI

>>29517575
>They were told they would become like God himself if they ate it.
>It was arrogance and selfish pride. They were condemned.

gotta play devil's advocate here (hue hue) but most kids want to be like their fathers because they admire and respect them

how is this arrogant or prideful?

>>29517332
You could be lifting with all that time you spend in church

File: satan1-e1385214052730.jpg (87KB, 836x988px) Image search: [Google]

87KB, 836x988px

>>29517706
>He did. Free will is a part of the soul and a soul is basically all an angel is.. many angels chose to follow Satan. Many chose the love of humans.
nope.
Catholicism goes way out of its way to say that angels have NO soul and NO free will and that only men have free will. Some revisionist protestants say angels had free will once, but it was taken away. Still, this means God knew he was going to take free will away from angels at some point, and knew that Satan would corrupt his creation (man) and still allowed it to happen.

devil confirmed bro

>>29521705
you know what i KNOW doesnt exist

your sex life

>ITT: fags confusing the devil with lucifer

>>29521381
>>I love you alle unconditionally
>>So I prepared a state of total and eternal anguish in case you don't love me back
jesus confirmed neckbeard

And lo, he said unto all peoples of the firmament
>p-pls respond
Galatians 3:29

File: 6c8ea66737ffc3b0e0fa1c74dfd9939b.jpg (41KB, 638x626px)

41KB, 638x626px

>>29517332
>Started from the bottom

>>29521774
sorry bro

>>29517384
Chinstrap proven gods personal sex slave

>>29514966
Do crossfit, die, and go to hell so you can ask Lucifer himself

>>29523786
>"I said please go like ten times."
I think she was possessed by the spirit of Jeff/

>>29517429
So people not born into Christianity are doomed for hell? Seems legit

File: 1412747545065.jpg (50KB, 500x655px) Image search: [Google]

50KB, 500x655px

DICKS EVERYWHERE

>>29521774
Please put in a good word for me when you get there anon, I need all the help I can get

>>29517575
> 2014
> believing a giant story that has many different authors
Not gonna make it

File: 1415516527288.jpg (56KB, 682x400px) Image search: [Google]

56KB, 682x400px

>>29523814
> What if satan is really god and god is really satan

SHHIOOUGGHJY

Real talk. Can I sell my soul for aesthetics?

I am 100% not joking. If Satan, Lucifer, Beelzebub, Marduk, Azod-Toth, whatever the fuck is out there and can hear me... I HEREBY SELL MY ETERNAL SOUL TO YOU IF YOU GIVE ME AESTHETICS.

Once again, I am not kidding.
I offer my soul to any diety who claims it first and can give me what I desire.

>keeping your soul
>making it
pick one

File: 1404697866417.jpg (68KB, 564x468px) Image search: [Google]

68KB, 564x468px

>God's face when he trolled all of you

>>29521774
Try praying the tumor away

> sorry if this is true anon

File: tumblr_mnadmoNaST1s4e3azo1_1280.jpg (220KB, 960x539px) Image search: [Google]

220KB, 960x539px

>>29523958
Not Satan, but to Zyzz.

File: Screen Shot 2014-11-11 at 12.45.17 PM.png (87KB, 660x273px) Image search: [Google]

87KB, 660x273px

>>29523974
>>29523958
now I'm really confused

>>29523962
This

>>29523974
who gives a shit about some inescure fuccboi in skinny jeans who died from drugs

>>29524002
Newfag detected

File: Jesus-Weed.jpg (54KB, 468x544px) Image search: [Google]

54KB, 468x544px

>>29524002
>who gives a shit about some inescure fuccboi in skinny jeans who died from drugs

>>29524015
No, i just don't understand how roided faggot in skinny jeans can be a role model
Died so quickly because he was a fuccboi fag.
>>29524029
jesus is a faggot too.

>>29524049
But you're still new, fuccboi.

>>29524076
Yeah i'm new because i'm insulting a faggot.

>>29523994
zyzz literally alway had a necklace of a cross that he wore and got a tattoo of jesus on his back

this thread is autosaging now.

I just want to know if my attempt to sell my soul worked.

pls respond, satan

>>29523806
They wanted to do it independently of God. To be like God is the goal of Christianity, however you have to do it hand in hand with God. So say "fuck it I don't need him.. I will do it on my own" will cause your fall from grace.

This was satans problem.

Also, Goodmorning fedora scum!

>>29524295
> Anyone that doesn't blindly follow my religion is a fedora scum

>>29524295
im not atheist

>>29524100
> Implying he was gay
> Implying Implications that you're new
Yes you're new

>>29524327
Being atheist doesn't make you a fedora tipper. That's just a 4chan thing and a way for Christfags to "win" an argument

>>29521774
u srs?

>>29524314
Denial. Lel

>>29524340
Not even close m7

>>29524372
Coming from the guy who genuinely thought a chinstrap was acceptable facial hair

>>29524392
there was nothing remotely fedora about my post

>>29524411
Chinstrap is just a faggot if you didn't know already

>>29524411
>That's just a 4chan thing and a way for Christfags to "win" an argument
I was responding to this when I said>>29524392

It's always funny how /fit/ is much more religious than most other boards.
There's probably some truth behind the stupid meathead trope

>>29515831
>questions god
>booted from heaven for questioning Him
>God creates man
>Lucifer teaches them critical thinking and how to question authority
>God punishes them, too
>God proceeds to cull humanity's numbers throughout millennia with multiple apocalypses and disasters
>God keeps an exclusive club of people who never question him in "Heaven"
>Anyone who had the audacity to question him is declared "sinful" and is turned away
>Satan takes them in and gives them a warm home far below the ground, safe from the harsh environment above and the judgements of their peers in heaven

Satan sounds like a bro. He's doing all he can for humanity while god continues to use us to perpetually praise him and boost his all-encompassing ego. If you read the bible you'll learn that god mirrors the flaws of man, he's very jealous and is prone to fits of rage and pettiness.

Jesus was actually a cool dude too, and guess who killed him? It wasn't Satan, it was God. He had to die for our "sins." I'm willing to bet Jesus sneaks out of Heaven on Sunday nights when God's asleep to go smoke blunts with Lucifer

>>29524459
But it's true. If someone says something you don't agree with, you use le ebin fedora may may and suddenly their argument is invalid

>>29524485
Never have and never will. Just using the fedora may may because it applies so well here. I'm actually answering questions instead of getting mad and hoping everyone gets smoten

>>29524471
That's basically my entire issue with religion, I can understand why people are drawn to religion, it's comforting and has been endorsed by leaders throughout history for multiple reasons (I'm chosen by god etc.).

But the entire bible is so god damn obviously designed to suppress critical thinking, a muslim friend of mine once told me he's feeling uncomfortable talking to me because he's caught himself questioning god a few times.

He's literally a prisoner to his own faith, it's creepy.

>>29518157
R'lyeh is in the south pacific according to Lovecraft's coordinates. Cthulhu doesn't sleep in the Atlantic even in fiction.

>>29521774
yeah but you can just pray for your mystical magical beard man to cure it right?

religion is the stupidest fucking shit i've ever heard of.

it was literally made to manipulate the retard masses.

>>29524329
I've been here since i fucked ur mum first time, then you were born feget

>>29517575
>told they would become like God himself if they ate it
It's true, in a sense. By gaining the knowledge of good and evil, humanity was given the power to create and destroy, both of which are hallmarks of any god. The ability to choose your own path and actions makes one a god in their own personal realm. Whoa, deep

>>29518208
Bitch lookin straight into the camera like she don't look like a FOOT, bitch face look like a KNEECAP

>>29524620
Damn son... you smokin' right now?

>>29524657
hahah nah, that's a "weekends-only" thing for me nowadays

Are you a Cristian? Since this thread is already so derailed, what is your concept of Heaven and Hell?

I'm agnostic, however I heard a story from a First Nations person about their concept of heaven and hell, and I found it so romantic I've sorta adopted the idea myself. I feel like all people go to heaven in the end. However, when one dies they witness their lives and all of the actions they took, good or bad. For people who were kind, they are reminded of the wonderful things they've done for others. To those who were unkind, they're tormented by living through the pain and wrongdoing they've inflicted in their life - that is "Hell." After experiencing the wrong they've done, they can move on to Heaven after their atonement.

>>29515593
Tim curry is the best devil ever

>>29524757
That's cool. I believe I'll likely shit myself and then I'll be pretty much dead.

I'm hopeing to see some fractals or something cool I guess.

>>29521774
ITT: chinstrap gets BTFO

>>29524471
>>29524517
Heres my issue with this.

He doesnt think of man as a lost sheep.
he thinks of us as inferior scum. His whope purpose in life is to prove to god that we are pathetic, weak minded, impulse driven animals.
The more man is thrown in hell the more iblis/satan/the devil is proven right.
this all started because he wouldnt acknowledge adam. It is because adam is made of clay and he is of fire
narcissism, little man complex

>>29524757
Nice man. Yeh I am (greek orthodox). Heaven and hell is a state of communion or no communion with God. If I could sum up Christianity in one word, it would be "relationship".. that is, with God and each other. Having a relationship is heaven and not is hell.
>>29524795
I'll agree with this

Atheists what do you guys believe happened before the big bang or whatever?
How do you guys explain point a

>>29525089
Don't know. Don't have to know. Don't have to claim to know.

That's what I would say the typical stance is but not all obviously

>>29525089
There are multiple theories, but my personal favorite is the one that explains there is no beginning. Once the big bang explodes, the universe constantly expands. After all the gases mixed and formed, and after all the stars and galaxies are born, after all those stars and galaxies eventually die, you're only left with black holes. After a while these black holes eventually merge with each other and create a super black hole, so to speak, and this super black hole will have so much mass sucked inside a small area, it eventually starts pulling the universe back in with its gravitational pull. So instead of the universe expanding, its coming together now, until everything is eventually sucked up by this super black hole.

So after so many billions of years go by until all the mass of the universe is sucked into this one super dense point, then the universe eventually explodes again. Repeating the process for all eternity.

>>29525089
No one has all the answers. Not even atheists.

This isn't a problem though

>>29524952
When I said I was agnostic you called me a fedora tipper. No consistency chinstrap. No consistency. Just like Christianity.

>>29524928
But we are impulse driven animals. And many humans are weak minded. (Addiction, obesity, etc)

>>29524870
Watch DMT the spirit molecule on YouTube

>>29525304
Recent discoveries on gravity has shifted the consensus to believe in an ever expanding universe that will eventually freeze once really really separated.

Plus theories have evidence and since there is nothing to examine "before the big bang" there is nothing that can be said about it.

The question itself could even be incorrect to believe there was a before.

>>29525089

It's weird question. Big bang started the motion of the universe and consequently - time. We don't know what happened before the time existed. We don't know what caused it. We don't know if it's the right answer. It's all hypothetical, and big bang is so far the most possible of them all.

>>29525405
I have made grams and smoked dmt many, many times. I assure you hallucinogenic drugs have no answer to the question of life after death.

As much as it feels like it does, it's called an hallucination for a reason. Brains don't have a chemical dial for a reason

>>29525407
>The question itself could even be incorrect to believe there was a before.
This

>>29525432
Then you must not understand how dmt and sleep relate.

> I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death

>>29525374
Let me elaborate.

No one has all the answers. This isn't a problem so long as you don't try to speak of things you have no knowledge of.

Like ancient people knew the world was round, but then Christians decided it was flat and sent us backwards a few centuries.

I remember you from ages ago. You were the biggest fedora I had spoken to, to date

>>29525482
>>29525374
My bad. Replied incorrectly. I haven't woken up yet.

But that point still stands

>>29525460
>Both have people
>Both have a single perspective
>Both are in constant motion
>Both very believable in the moment
>Interactions with others
You seem to believe you know something that others do not. I wonder how you can seem so confident that I am incorrect when the question is something that no one has knowledge of.

Do you claim to have knowledge that demonstrate the after life? Cause I would love to hear it, and if it comes with instructions that require dmt, that's easy enough. But the connection between throwing a chemical into your brain and the afterlife is no-sequitur as fuck

>>29525482
> biggest fedora I had spoken to, to date
Doesn't fedora mean you're an autistic shut in? Not even close m8

>>29525516
I'm god

>>29525523
*tips fedora*

>>29525546
You probably believe everyone is god. No one gives a shirt about your happy feeling alan watts taoism bullshit.

>>29525551
*tips fedora*

>>29525565
Do you know me? How can you jump to such conclusions

File: 1406739694880.jpg (68KB, 720x446px) Image search: [Google]

68KB, 720x446px

>>29525089
who cares?

File: 1414841746639.jpg (97KB, 1181x897px)

97KB, 1181x897px

>>29525569
>>29525551
>>29525523
*tips fedora*
*swirls cape*
*taps cane*
*clicks heels*

Well played m'lords

>>29517698
fuck off tumblr

File: 1415417060538.jpg (50KB, 480x640px) Image search: [Google]

50KB, 480x640px

>>29525546
kanye pls go

>mfw this thread

>>29525583
I know people who say that smoking dmt leads to spirituality. I don't know you, but I know about you.
Or maybe were the same person o.O

If i'm wrong I'm wrong, I just speak against people saying my favorite hobby of fucking up my brain is magical and something that it is not. Incorrect beliefs about drugs influence your perception of that drug and reality, one should not believe that drugs speak truths when they do everything but.

>>29517332
>a state of no communication with God

So, all the Chrisfags go to Heaven to circlejerk, while the Atheists go to Hell and get to indulge in debauchery?

O-oh no... Hell sounds bad...

File: alan_stephan06.jpg (88KB, 598x746px) Image search: [Google]

88KB, 598x746px

>>29525089
You don't have to know all the answers, you just have to be willing to find them.

>>29525649
So what's the problem? Shouldn't that situation be win-win?

>>29525700
>Implying anyone's disagreement on a birdhouse building workshop forum influences reality.

>>29525632
10/10 made me kek

>>29523786
>satan pls go

>>29515469
It's like I'm really reading the post of a 19th century romantic

>>29518201
>"I'm leaving this isn't fitness related"
>stays

Fuck me, you're an annoying pox. At least. Supermong can be unintentionally funny, you just make me sigh in exasperation.

>>29521705
>Because lovecraft literally made it up

>Because a collection of men writing books over thousands of years couldnt make the Bible up

>>29517332
I can see where you're coming from but the belief that your idiosyncratic perception and projections of god and the story around him that come from the bible are true, out of all the religions why would yours be true specifically? It isn't all religions are the same, god is a feeling not a concept. And religions are meant to get to that feeling of unity with the universe or as you call it "the father. Believe me your religion is only vaguely correct arguing over the small insignificant details misses the point. Also consider that the bible was written by man so it will include any biases or opinions the authors had will be embedded into the scriptures it is to be taken with a grain of salt. Wouldnt it be shitty that you could be exiled from the kingdom of your god just because someone was born into a family of predetermined religion, a factor out of one's hands.

File: 141541764770.jpg (211KB, 720x715px) Image search: [Google]

211KB, 720x715px

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziz
>yfw zyzz was acyually a demon

>>29526014
In that case, you are judged as follows:

If you have heard the law of God, you are judged accordingly.
If you have bot heard the law of God, you are judged according to the law of the land (or by whatever law you are taught)
If you live like an ape in a cave with no law, then you are judged by "natural law" I.e. the goodness of your heart

Jesus said this when he said that before he came, people were innocent because they hadn't heard his words. But now that he had come and they are still acting like cunts, THEN they have guilt

>>29515628
Lucifer was Yeebus twin brother, thats what the mormons believe

>>29526055
taek soul plz ziz
give gains

xoxo
tell me what best offering is

>>29526119
The mormons are wrong

>>29526087
>Jesus said this
no he fucking didn't

there was a big crisis in the 1800s because colonialism was starting to take off, and a lot of christian countries started running into native peoples no one had met before.
It was obvious that american indians, the mayans the spanish killed, and a few scattred tribal peoples in the east were not the only ones who hadn't heard of Christ. Now there were tons of new groups that had never heard of him.

The bibles were scoured for what to do. Surely all these people weren't going to hell constantly because they'd never heard of Jeebus. Eventually it was decided that angels (can't make this shit up) must be visiting these populations at least once a generation to present the word of god to the tribes. This meant they HAD heard of Christ, and since they didn't into christianity, they must be going to Hell for a just reason.

However, no one said Jesus said this shit because it wasn't a thing until colonialism was in full force

>>29517332
Finally, someone who knows what he's talking about.

>>29526159
The fact that there are so many different variations of the Christian faith put me off. Which is right and which is wrong?
> They're all a bunch of horse dick

>>29526231
Chinstrap pls

>>29525863
Kek

>>29526230
Yes he did. Pick up a bible. I don't have the exact passage. Look it up

ITT: people who have never read the bible having an argument on Christianity

>>29526244
Everyone who claims things that aren't in the Bible are wrong. Lucifer being a brother of Jesus (God only has one Son), Lucifer being the most beautiful angel, God being jealous. None of those things are in the Bible. So if you want to know the truth, read Bible and listen critically to preachers

>>29525391
You realize you're saying exactly what Lucifer wants you to say

File: bible-vs-science.jpg (357KB, 500x682px) Image search: [Google]

357KB, 500x682px

>>29525482
If you're gonna put the Bible against 'science', at least do it right

>>29526327
Sure. Lucifer, satan, jesus. All the same to me.

> They don't mean shit

Jesus was a prophet of a God. You guys are in denial, worship God alone, he has no partners, no kids, nor was he begotten. He is One.

>>29526301
Lel. God explicitly says he is a jealous God

But all that means is that there isn't room for 2 gods. You are either all for him or you aren't. You can't share yourself with God and another

>>29526392
Never did dumbass.

If you are going to argue with me, don't make a dick of yourself

>>29526407
What if we want to bang Jesus and Satan at the same time?

>>29526430
But Chinstrap, you do that all the time. That's what you're known for on this board.

>>29526444
But I'm just shit posting. You are trying to make a legit argument

>>29526394
If anything, this. Why worship Jesus if God "explicitly" states he's a jealous god and there's only room for one?

>>29524555
Just because you got trips doesn't mean you're right. You're literally just repeatnig what atheist preachers have told you. you've done literally zero science yourself. You're a retarded

>>29526468
Not the same guy. We just both happen to hate you.

Say He is God, the only One.

God, the Eternal Refuge.

He neither begets, nor was He born.

Nor is there any equivalent to him.

>>29526494
B-but Jesus is muh lord and savior

A-amen

>>29526472
> You're a retarded
8/10 made me kek

>>29526470

Thats from the Quran bro, chapter 111. You'll find answers in there. Jesus never said he was God, thats what your Church said. Jesus came with a message to worship God alone.

>>29521343
It simply is

>implying morality doesn't come from God-given sense of right and wrong
>implying atheism can explain morality
>implying atheism can explain the origin of the universe
>mfw dumbasses believe in the incomplete theory because it makes them feel in control

>>29526394
get your Mohammadian heresy out of here

>>29526509

Where in the bible does Jesus say he is God?

>>29526521
I'm not arguing FOR Christianity. Trust me. I fucking hate that poison.

>>29521612
Those things don't make you talk or listen to God, only demons communicate that way. Communicating with God is done through prayer, reading and worship

>>29526542

I know, but if you want the truth go read the Quran. If you're curious it won't hurt.

>>29526539
Christfags do

>>29526521
his deeds proved his divinity, not his proclamations. would you believe someone walking around saying "I am God"?

>>29526561
My uncle is Muslim and we talk about this shit a lot. Hell I even converted to gain a deeper understanding, but it wasn't for me. I don't really hold a religious belief now, I do believe there is a creator though. The universe, our solar system, and even Earth itself seem too perfect for there not to be.

>>29523958
Don't fuck around man, that shit is real. Demons are definitely real and selling your soul is pretty plausible. If God exists, demon deals exist and you'll sell your soul and you'll go to hell no matter what. If God doesn't exist, demons don't exist so your deal isn't real so nothing will happen. It's a lose-lose situation really

>>29526524
I can explain the universe. /fit/ created the universe and /fit/ is the answer to everything. /fit/ is my religion and it's complete. Fucking atheists dumbasses believing in an incomplete theory because it makes them feel in control. get rekt

>>29524485
If someone says something you don't agree with, you use le ebin jew on a stick or crusades may may and suddenly their argument is invalid

>>29526656
Fuck off

>>29526567

No I wouldn't but his deeds were the same as any other Prophet. If youre talking about his miracles does that mean Moses was God? He split the oceans. What about Noah? Lived fo 900 years and knew about an incoming ark.

>>29524757
You can't just change theology and definition of biblical terms to make it more feelgood

>>29526599

I'd go back and read it. I was the same, but the more I read the closer I got to the truth.

>>29526567
Not exactly man... biblical language was different... we have God, the word of God and the Spirit of God. All a part of same God.

Language was only refined centuries later to clear up confusion. But the concept of the trinity existed long before the word was invented

>>29526626
/fit/ explains neither morality nor the origin of the universe and humanity. /fit/ doesn't even explain why SS is a troll or not

>>29526674

Built an ark* Flood*

>>29526704
Trinity as in electrons, protons and neutrons?

>>29526705
Why is this thread still up? I mean.. it's good to discuss this shit. But there is a time and a place for it... /fit/ isn't the place.

Fucking janitors

>>29526705
/fit/ explains everything you blasphemous retard. burn in dyel hell.

>>29523883

Nobody likes you.

>>29526674
More the resurrection, ascension, bringing someone back from the dead, and to a lesser extent all of the healing. Did other prophets do that?

>>29526733
Sure... why the hell not?

File: 1390437799508.gif (382KB, 376x280px) Image search: [Google]

382KB, 376x280px

>>29517332
o this guy kek

>>29526734
go read your bible or suck a priests cock u shrill pussy

>>29525632
Lol Kanye plz go

File: islam-evil.png (2MB, 1398x1492px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1398x1492px

>>29526394
The entity you call Allah/God is literally a demon, likely even Satan himself. I pray for you and your brothers, you are victims of Satan even worse than other people. The good news is, since Allah is a demon I can fucking command him in the name of my Lord, how cool is that

File: 21465.png (351KB, 500x793px) Image search: [Google]

351KB, 500x793px

>year 25 in Garden Eden
>not doing Starting Knowledge of Good and Evil
>primevally innocent as fuck
>my grimace when

>tell Eve I have a large trident for her to polish
>laughingangels.scripture
>forbidden fruit falls out of loincloth

>>29526392
what a stupid image, love how religious fags just try to hog claim to everything just because you interpret one passage in your book a certain way to fit after the fact science finds out how and why it works

>>29526746
Ok

>>29526811
Name one thing that image that is falsely presented. The third column is what ancient atheists believed, the first column is what the Bible has known all along. God just didn't think it was important enough to give a more detailed explanation

>>29526393
>I don't believe in God so humans are impulse driven, weak minded animals

>>29526790
>my god is better than your god

>>29526900
Humans are the product of millions of years of evolution, just like every other animal. Just because we have an increased mental capacity and self awareness doesn't mean we are excluded.

>>29526806
most underrated post ever

>>29526539
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViGNBLQpGWE

>>29526975
This. Except christfags don't believe in evolution? Or am I wrong

>>29525417
Its not "the most possible" hypothetical theory. The Big Bang theory is the scientific theory with the biggest body of evidence backing it up in the history of mankind.

We dont know what happened before the big bang, but we know for sure that it happened.

File: Dantes_Inferno_-_Lucifer_Model_360_View.jpg (1004KB, 2560x2186px) Image search: [Google]

1004KB, 2560x2186px

did he do SL or SS?

>>29527032
Think again, fag.

http://www.providencejournal.com/opinion/editorials/20141110-pope-francis-and-evolution.ece

>>29527053
> Fag
Ow

>>29527032
We don't, duh. The Bible starts with how humans were made (created as crown and caretakers of Creation, after the angels, the heavens and the earth, the vegetation and animals)

>>29527053
Pope Francis is a dumbass, the whole Roman Catholic "church" is a joke, there's nothing Christian about most of it's practices.

>>29527053
Who's the fag now bitch

>>29526055
>dat gyno

>>29526599
>I believe there is a creator but I don't want to conform to any of the available religions, I'm too above that

Read some Bible, read some Quran, pray to both and see what happens. Christ say that whoever comes to Him with an open mind and an open heart WILL have a response

>>29527122
No those are tits

>>29527128
Tits on men are called gyno, or fat

>>29527086
1/10 bait

>>29527124
If I pray to Christ (not God) will I have $1,000,000,000 in my bank account by tomorrow?

And i never said I was above that. I don't feel the need to label myself and conform to a certain religions every word. Maybe to you I come off that way, but whatever happened to free will? If I want to bang random girls and Jack off to bukkake porn I will do it.

>>29527098
I'm a big fan of Benedict. Sure he didn't kiss babies snd cripples like Francis or the two John Pauls, but he had stones (even if he didn't use them..) wasn't afraid to say it like it was.

That's the leader we need. Not some feel good hippie who tries to make everyone happy. John Paul 2 kissed the quran for fuck sake. What the hell kind of example is that to set to the largest Christian denomination?

>>29527132
Cept "he" is both man and woman. Look it up.