>>27025436 I don't get why they wasted so much time and energy trying to pull the gate off, losing a giant and a bunch of wildlings in the process, yet it only took one to open it like a normal gate. What if they had two giants doing that? Would have taken half the time, and one could have held it open while the rest of the wildlings came rushing in.
>>27025611 Happy birthday bro, remember you are never lonely, you can only FEEL lonely. The technological advancements like have made it so that even the most weird people from society can find peace at certain places
>>27025498 In the books the giant actually dies because of Jon Snow's mate, with him trapped in the giants hand and his axe buried in the giants skull. I assume that happened this time too but it wasn't too clear.
>>27025884 dude. I'm not trying too be an ass or anything. but you sound like you need help. is there any free help to get where you live? here we have free pshycologists for students for example. it's typical for men to not ask for help, and things get worse and worse. break out of it bro. get help, call a hotline or something, and try to fix shit. happy birthday bro. hope the next one is better!
>>27025925 I really appreciate the worries, the reason im being lonely is that I moved to a new town 300 miles away from my parents and my friends - I think I just need some more time finding people here.
>>27025932 why didn't they all just storm the gate? why did they have to stop? they should have just keep on pushing forward instead they give the NW time to recooperate.. I thought Mance was a tactical genius
>>27026051 i am talking about how she was happy he got killed like a fucking retard and how the fuck did tywin didn't see the shit storm about to come from killing the prince of the people he is trying to ally himself with
>>27026051 also the wilding leader isn't dumb, most of them arent dumb at all they're normal as observed in jon snow's mission. So unless there was a gigantic whirlpool that prevented them from making boats (which even cavemen were able to make) it's another plot hole
>>27026095 Cersei was happy cause she's a fucking insane cunt who just wants to kill Tyrion. Tywin wasn't happy, but even he can't challenge the laws of trial by combat. He knew it was a shitty no win situation, thats why he looked so pissed off during the entire fight.
>>27026035 And there are and there are a hundred thousand free folk; attrition is their friend. If they realyl thought there were that many crows then why would they think a few dozen attacking from the south would make any difference whatsoever?
>>27026105 Eastwatch by the Sea had a strong enough fleet to fucking wreck any shitty wildling attempt to cross. Besides Mance united the clans by telling them he was going to get EVERYONE across the all, theres no way they could have transported 100,000 men as well as giants and mammoths on shitty little wildling boats.
>>27025932 There are one hundred thousand wildlings, with no skilled builders or shipwrights. They couldn't build that many sizable ships.Also it would take a lot longer than killing 100 men and taking a small castle.
>>27026177 The wall climbing/crossing worked because they were a select group of operator wildlings chosen for their physical fitness and expertise. Did you forget that it's not just fit men and women that the wildlings have with them? They have elderly, children, livestock, and loads of carts of shit that could only pass at certain points.
>>27026223 So wildlings + giants could have just mined through the wall. OR they could have coincided their operator wildlings during the assault on the wall. Rather than sending a commando squad behind enemy lines to coincide with a pincer assault.
>>27026272 Maybe you just haven't been paying attention, but that wall is forged with ice and stone, enforced with iron, and to top it all off, protected by magic. Fucking magic, bro. No. Ain't shit getting through there.
>>27026373 Not all the castles are manned but the rangers do regularly go all along the wall. Any attempt to mine through would be quickly noticed, and as I said the wall is magical as well as physical, how the fuck are they going to mine through 30ft of magical ice without decent iron, let alone steel?
So here's what I don't get. In red is their current route, right? Just attack the wall. But that green part seems much more practical and safe. Easier to defend yourselves when the Crows can only come from one angle.
Alternatively, why not have a group sneak around when attacking Castle Black and meet up in between to destroy the Night's Watch? Easily conquered, especially when you outnumber someone 10,000:1
>>27025860 Only it wasn't Jon Snow's mate, but the blacksmith of castle black, a one-armed veteran ranger. And it wasn't an axe, but a sword. And it wasn't just a giant, it was Mag the Mighty, king of the giants. And a giant will join the Night's Watch, along with wildlings, to fight the white walkers and The Others.
don't overthink guys, GoT plot is mediocre, especially when it comes to battle tactics, probably why they skip showing battle footage all the time. Blackwater Bay also was totally retarded in my opinion. When you outnumber a city's defenders greatly, have multiple fronts you can attack from and absolutely have to assault, you don't jam your entire force of 100.000 into a single narrow entry point like the Mud Gate, especially when they're expecting it. You spread out your numbers into different flanks to lower the concentration of missile fire, get as many men close as fast as you can without holding them up, and force the outnumbered defenders into holding more than one flanks at once. what Stannis did was the exact fucking opposite.
>>27026401 I'm not talking about warging into a human.
>Stool pigeon telling you that there are thousands of crows and lots of manned castles >Warg into eagle >Fly over the wall >Check out the various empty castles >Check out the 100 cooks guarding the main castle >Behead the liar >Take the wall at any number of points
Once they have a breach its game over for the NW.
>>27026391 Look at the engineering works of medieval seiges to see how mining can be done in secret (especially when the closest set of eyes is 800ft away and more concerned about not freezing to death on this patrol)
>>27026411 >green route there's a river that needs crossing, but they've no boats >pincer attack I think the idea behind the infiltrators was stealth. Had the full army been amassed and readying to attack, that small a number of fighters would've done very little against a fully alerted castle black. It didn't matter anyway since Jon Snow escaped and alerted the castle anyway.
>>27026411 Do you really think you can just move with 100.000 People through the mountains? Why do you think the wall Ends there? If we assume it was crafted by gods or some shit, do you think they just ran out of ice and were like "meh hopefully nobody just walks around at this Point".
>sneak around But that's what they did you dumb nigger. And they didn't send enough men since Jon Snow betrayed them. Their mistake was trusting him.
>>27026483 I know, I got bored and read like all the spoilers a few years ago. the show started out all right, but it degraded into cheap shock value almost immediately. most GoT fans I know who are crazy about the plot are hipsters who've never previously watched, read or played any decent fantasy/fiction other than faggy potter. no wonder it seems awesome and magical to them now.
>>27026497 http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Gendel http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Gendel http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Gendel In the cave where bastard boy and redhead hick bang, she mentions tales of how Gendel's children still wander the caves. >eagle fact-checking my impression was that they never believed snow in the first place >breach wall anywhere none of them have gates large enough for the volume of people that need to pass, save for castle black.
>>27026515 You can mine through ice with stone tools if you like. If its hard you could even use fire to soften it up (you would definitely need reinforcement in this case though). The magic is the wild card here and that doesn't matter if the tools are metal or not.
>>27026590 I really hate plot inconsistency myself, but in this case it's clearly stated that the wall was created to be impassable by magical means. We can assume that the builders of the wall took These things into consideration.
>>27026552 The castles along the wall are specifically designed to be weak against southern attack in order to prevent the NW declaring autonomy. Even a single file gate would get a large enough force through that castle black would fall quickly.
>only king who cares about the real fight against the Others >declares himself king and fights for the throne, even though he knows most of his bannermen declared for his usurper homo brother, he knows he doesn't stand much chance against his brother, robb stark, the lannisters >fights anyway, simply because he knows he is right >this fucking quote "It is not a question of wanting. The throne is mine, as Robert's heir. That is law. After me, it must pass to my daughter, unless Selyse should finally give me a son. I am king. Wants do not enter into it. I have a duty to my daughter. To the realm. Even to Robert. He loved me but little, I know, yet he was my brother. The Lannister woman gave him horns and made a motley fool of him. She may have murdered him as well, as she murdered Jon Arryn and Ned Stark. For such crimes there must be justice. Starting with Cersei and her abominations. But only starting. I mean to scour that court clean. As Robert should have done after the Trident."
Stannis is the fucking man. "I defeated your uncle Victarion and his Iron Fleet off Fair Isle, the first time your father crowned himself. I held Storm's End against the power of the Reach for a year, and took Dragonstone from the Targaryens. I smashed Mance Rayder at the Wall, though he had twenty times my numbers. Tell me, turncloak, what battles has the Bastard of Bolton ever won that I should fear him?"
>>27026721 >YG >a real Targaryen >having any claim to throne >implying YG isn't a Blackfyre that Varys is using as a pawn for personal gain >implying Varys and Jon Connington aren't taking great pains to convince people "no he's totally Rhaegar's son, even though everyone saw them killed" Top Fuckin LEL E L
>>27026649 The magic is an unknown factor in this which is why I'm limiting myself to saying that it is physically possible. The magic seal seems to only deal with wights and walkers though (see when Sam and Bran crossed paths in the books)
And with that in mind the whole warg recce missions may be moot as I seem to remember something about Jon being cut off from Ghost when they were opposite sides of the wall. Suggesting that the magic prevents warging as well.
>>27026833 Yeah though not explicitly stated, its also >implied that the others have some means of egress to pass the wall as well. Otherwise they wouldn't be much of a threat, cause there's a wall in the way
>>27026972 >mfw Dany goes full mad king and tries to kill all of the Starks after Bran possesses her dragon >mfw Jorah sees her going crazy and has to stop it >mfw Jorah now understands why Jaime did what he did >mfw Jorah kills Dany and takes the black
>>27027036 Agreed nigga, its the moment we've all been waiting for. >>27027048 I'd say Barry, but breddysure he's gonna die and take Vicky with him, giving Dany reason to want to wipe out the last house she really has no grudge against. Observe: >Baratheon: Usurpers >Stark: Allies to the Usurpers >Tyrells: Allied with the Lannisters >Lannisters: Usurpers, traitors, responsible for the death of Rhaegar, Rhaegar's children >Greyjoys: no real allegiance >Arryn: Allies of the Starks It all fits nigga
>>27027170 That's what the whole greenseer thing is building up to Really all of the Starks are Wargs basically, so don't be surprised if they each take over a dragon for a minute to incur some srs damage to the Others
>>27025932 this shit is explained in the books, can't build enough boats to move 100,000 people. Plus the fact that they already tried this, motherfucking army of dead under the sea. They want to get through the all with the wall intact to keep the white walkers out. They aren't doing this to kill the nights watch, they are doing this to survive
>>27027026 >>mfw Dany goes full mad king and tries to kill all of the Starks after Bran possesses her dragon >>mfw Jorah sees her going crazy and has to stop it >>mfw Jorah now understands why Jaime did what he did >>mfw Jorah kills Dany and takes the black I think you're thinking about Barristan. He's the only one that should end up killing Dany.
>>27025972 yeah dude, i moved 200k's away from my childhood home for work after i finished uni. Shit pay shit little apartment. After the first month were i was lonely as shit i made a few friends at work etc. started hunting pussy online ive gotten laid more in the last 2 months than i have in the previous 5 years
>>27026567 guess it doesn't really matter, jon sends them away when he becomes lord commander. Probably best to kill them off in cool ways. Pyp died like a bitch, but Grenn was total badass. Too bad he didn't 1v1 the giant with only one arm. Wouldve been awesome
>>27026608 nah they will keep him alive, use him to marry him to the karstark? girl to make an alliance between the north and the wildlings, instead of the Magnar of Thenn or whoever it was who was supposed to marry the girl
>>27027859 online dating sites seem to be the go here. some girls won't even use a picture so it is a real hit and miss, i treat it like a numbers game, the more you try the more you'll get. Just be forward and try a cheeky but non sleazy pickup line every now and then, if she laughs your a good chance, if she is insulted she isn't worth the time of day and has no real sense of humor
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