I'm having a bit of an issue. I have been lifting weights for about 1,5 years now to get that perfect mix between ottermode and slightly athletic body. I like the idea of a thin waist coupled with a little wider shoulders. Thing is now though, that my shoulders are ruining the fit of my newly bought Whyred coat, my suit and I realize that me getting bigger will render all of my slim-fitting, beautiful wardrobe useless.
I'm barely outta dyel but I feel that this will become a problem soon enough.
Any others who try to combine /fa/ and /fit/ and have a way to make it work? Please share your thoughts
>perfect mix between ottermode and slightly athletic body
o i am laffin
OP i don't work out but i'm not sure there's gonna be a good way around this for you, especially not with your slim-fitting clothes.
sounds like you gotta make a call between getting bigger and keeping the clothes you have. which is more of a priority to you? i know this is /fa/ but clothes are clothes and if you enjoy working out, keep doing it, but maybe eat a bit less and keep yourself within the range you are? working out and exercise is good for you so don't stress yourself too hard. just depends where ur priorities lie and if you really wanna get bigger. if you gotta buy new clothes, maybe that's what you gotta do.
if you do get bigger though, then plan ahead - how much bigger do you wanna get? does this mean you need to be thinking ahead before you buy more expensive gear? if you're looking at growing still, think about clothes that fit in with that lifestyle. eg: buy cable-knit sweaters that have a big of room for you to fill into, depending on your shape those can look fine whether there's space in them or not. stuff like that.
i think you should maybe get a little bit bigger then get just a lot of muscle definition and focus on /fa/ not /fit/
also i like your eyebrows but you're going to have to groom them meticulously to avoid that caveman brow look, meaning maybe you should widen the middle gap ever so slightly
i wasn't trying to insult you with my caveman eyebrow comment
this pic and the pic in the op make you look really different tho
i'd say get a little bit bigger than what this pic is then stop putting on mass
>between ottermode and athletic
such delusion, srs. you're not even ottermode eyet. to be honest you barely even look like you lift, looks like the average pleb body after a few weeks of morning pushups.
tbh dude if the only reason you're lifting is to get bitches, you're probably already set with your body. /fa/ and /fit/ have this ridiculous delusion that looking really bulky is attractive, when most people (outside of the internet) prefer a body type more like yours. if you have even semi-visible abs, and are just slightly muscular, you're pretty much every white girls wet dream.
Trust me, you're far away from that problem bro. Coats are always going to drape so that's just how life is. The only issue will be shirts. Get them to fit your shoulders and get the sides taken in when it is really an issue. Looking at your build, I can guarantee you'll find some clothes off the rack that will still fit you.
This I find ideal but even some women think this is too big. This body is ideal for looking good in tailored clothing and looking good naked. But at the end of the day day, taste is subjective. Get as big as you want to get. Or don't. Up to you bro.
nagged this from a /fit/ thread, this is what I think looks best when naked, etc. But in order to be able to sustain it under a longer period of time aswell as being able to use regular clothes without needing to exchange them all the time, a bit smaller is probably better
>tfw u reached your goal body but since then you cant stop binging
its like i want to fuck everything up so i can do it all over again. i am defined by the struggle. tho the guilt i feel after binging is disproportionate with the negative impact that it actually has.
im rly fucked up i definitely have an eating disorder.
holy shit dude, that fucking sucks
As you've realised it now, have you considered bringing it up with a shrink of some sort? Just to talk about it you know
I fear that I'll reach my goal but either do what you're doing or I'll just keep going even though I don't want to, just to be able to keep progressing.
The V shape looks rather weird under cool clothes though, they are designed for skinny bodies
im not really how they could really help me. i have an obsessive mind that isn't able to let things go, it's just who i am. food and my body image is basically my obsession right now and i'm constantly in a cycle of binge eating/low calorie diet, but i don't wanna get any bigger or leaner but still the obsession lingers..i'm stuck in limbo, basically if youre obsessed with something even the first place you'll never be satisfied, you'll never be free of it.
'Worship your body and beauty and sexual allure and you will always feel ugly'
i guess i need a new hobby that doesn't revolve around selfish vanity
Honestly, I'm in the exact same situation too. I'm at my current goal body but I manage to mess it up by binge eating shit food and then almost eating nothing. The regret kills me after but I still manage to keep doing it.
yeah i feel that regret too, but thats the problem, we're placing an irrational level of importance on something that is trivial, basically we're completely insane. if you didn't feel any regret then you probably wouldn't binge, as i have noticed binging in myself to be self-harming/punishment for the fact that i feel fat and regretful in the first place. so it's a viscous cycle.
How about you dwell even deeper into something else that is sorta narcissistic and puts you above everyone else, like reading stuff to educate yourself?
The reason why I mentioned the shrink is because generally they are able to identify the cause of the obsession (which almost always seems to be insecurity, sorta given), which you can then work with/around to be able to achieve peace of mind and all that.
I'm completely with you in the sense of doing stuff for my own, vain good. Everything constructive I do in terms of educating myself, I do to be able to improve myself to be better, which in essence is eternal ego masturbation
Everything working your lats in combination with some shoulder work, lat pulldowns, pullups in combo with overhead press
that's not really how it works, if you just force the body into a catabolic state it will eat its own muscle in order to function, so you'll drop the weight regardless
same shit here, there's just so many other instantly stimulating activities to do at home and I easily get distracted when I read. I'm taking a philosophy course on uni now though, I'm forced to read so I'm content with that
But really, as >>9416331 says, you shouldn't beat yourself up. You have gone into a bad habit that probably stems from some insecurity about finally being finished, perhaps if you give yourself some new long term project you can relax with the eating and all?
im fairly content, but what is life without feels???
holy shit, if I looked like the type of guy who is educated enough to recommend anything to anyone I apologize for misleading you
I read Hemingway's A Farewell to Arms and felt like hot shit, apart from that I haven't done any "real" reading. I might be able to get back to you after completing my philosophy class, but right now I'm in the exact same position as yourself
R u drunk bro :///
Like that reggae song that isn't bob market but I'm p sure it fuckin is goes
I was lookin in the mirror today... Found stretch marks, was so upset.. But I can't help it so I don't worry and b happy we all got our flaws mane it's 4.40 am n I can't sleep bro.
Stay chill chime man
I just dress like my personality. I like classic country and first wave emo. I work out and am a very confident and masculine guy yet love clothes and art and emotions. Essentially dress masculine but not like a brodude and you're good. Take style advice from chris hemsworth and ryan gosling.
Obviously you won't fit in skinny fit clothes anymore. Luckily I'm tall so it doesn't really throw off my proportions. These are actually 513 slim straights. I can't fit into 511s anymore.
I'm not afraid of people thinking I might be gay. It's 2015. I have a better girlfriend than you ever will. She's beautiful and as germanic as I am. She taught me to trust, love, and be kind again. I hope you have what I have someday. But you never will with that poisonous personality. Grow up.
Here's the problem: your first post just oozed unnecessary self esteem for no real good reason was very masturbatory despite a weak fit and frankly not that attractive of a guy. You think that people wont rip on you?
Here we go: That face.
>muh deep in thought look
Dumb nerdy looking glasses make you look autistic, receeding hairline, jaw barely showing
Your posture: contrived, insecure, the fact you probably asked someone to take that picture of you whilst you struck the dumbest pose possible
Your outfit >>>/mfa/, shirt looks stupid unbuttoned your jeans don't fit that well, shoes make me sick and the colours don't work at all
>inb4 you took the time to write this out
Shit came easily to me you're a huge fucking target
lmao you're a balding blonde dude
have you ever trained anything but your chest?
ok I'm done now
I don't know. I just work out what isn't sore. If I am too sore I go shoot hoops or dance. My maxes were 2 plate squat, 3 plate dl, 95lbs db bench and 65lbs db ohp last I actually checked. I try to do more reps rather than max nowadays. If I squat it's usually 185lbs for 5+ reps until I can't do 2 reps. If I deadlift it's usually 275 for the same. I bench 85s for 8-15 reps until I can't do 6 reps. I'm p.sure most of /fit/ estats an extra plate on most of their lifts.
dude, just... why
OP specifically asked for advice on combining /fit/ and /fa/, he just said he dressed according to his personality, which I have a hard time disagreeing with as I don't know him
Haha, did you not read what she did for me? I was fucked up. I shut down emotionally and hated everyone. My iq is 121, I'm no genius but I'm smarter than most people so I found it hard to connect with them. It was easy to blame the world for how lonesome I was. My dad moved away when I was a kid and I didn't have many friends or social opportunities growing up. I had acne in high school. I wanted to be better than others so I didn't have to blame myself. When I met someone I would just judge them based on all the ways I was better than them. Now I just try to see the best in everyone and recognize that plenty of people are way better than me at something and that they're human beings too. She went through more than me yet stayed positive and that's why she inspires me. Her beauty is just the cherry on the sundae.
captcha fucked up my post, but here's everything I wanted to say >>9416427
The colors are truly a no go. Jeans look like crap, no body should wear light colored jeans, and your cardigan makes it pop out even more.
That stance. Don't even get me started on that one. It says everything about your personality.
Every man who actually poses in front of a camera should be burned to death. Being vain as a man is okay, but there's a line even gay men should not cross.
The shoes are terrible. I see dudes with no sense of clothing wearing better looking ones.
He never measured his personality based on his girlfriend, you ignorant cuck. You lot questioned his sexuality and he mentioned he has a girlfriend and ISN'T AFRAID OF PEOPLE THINKING HE MIGHT BE GAY. Who cares how he poses for a picture? It's not like he walks around like that all the time. How fucking hard is it to read context you shitwits?
You do need to grow up. Twisting his words around to make him look like a person he's not is classic 4chan. He's got some aspects of his life figured out, and I can appreciate that. Stop being a twat.
>Anything you'd recommend reading? I've been meaning to get into reading but I just lack focus really.
Thus Spoke Zarathustra, The Stranger, Notes from Underground and Nausea are easy and good places to start
so, is there actually any advice in this thread for staying /fa/ while also being /fit/
It's not even close to that contrived. My room mate also posts here and we snap pics right outside our apartment all the time with my phone camera. It's not like I'm Theo. These glasses were the only ones warby parker had that fit my gigantic head. Notice how the arm barely goes far enough back to my ear.
It's my style and I don't conform to the edgelord style pushed so much here. You all dress like lost souls because you probably are.
As for balding, it's a 50-50 shot. My dad has the same hairline as me and is 54. My mother's side started balding in their mid 30s. Either way I'll roll with it. There's more to life than hair.
No I don't feel you, I don't agree.
>insecurity, everyone worshipping body, beauty and sexual allure is insecure
wanting a great body, achieving it and being happy about it and wanting to progress it more are good things and they make me feel good.
... all the advice that can be given has been given. Want to be lazy about it? Be otter mode, be low body fat with a decent amount of muscle and you'll look great in most clothes. Want to get big, get your shit tailored. It's as simple as that, if you have a good body you can wear whatever you want.
this is a bad fit, do people compliment you on your clothes irl?
>It's my style and I don't conform to the edgelord style pushed so much here. You all dress like lost souls because you probably are.
yh its good up to a certain point, but you should try not to obsess over it too much, otherwise i fail to see how you will ever be satisfied. if you don't ever wanna be satisfied, that's fine, but i do i think.
>if you don't ever wanna be satisfied
I mean that's on you man. For me, satisfied is just if I like what I see in the mirror and I like how I perform in the gym. I don't "obsess" over it but yah, my body, my face, my hair, my clothes are all important to me. I like to look good. But I don't have some scale or "perfect" look in my mind.
Fuck if I know, every time I've gotten down to 14% I start drinking too much again and put on weight back up to 17%bf. Ask Zach. This was as lean as I got last year then I turned 21 and my gf left me.
mate you're on /fa/ right now. you get that? I post body pics on /fit/ and waywt pics on /fa/ because I like to get opinions from people. people tell me I look like shit, ok, I ask what I can improve. People tell me I look good, ok cool. simple as
you shouldn't be afraid of gaining weight. when your in between fitting your old clothes and gaining muscles you wont achieve much. start eating more and lift heavy ass weight. if your clothes doesn't fit you anymore, thats good. means you've made some gains. i can promise you that you will fit clothes much better if you pack on some weight. i look fuckin sexy in a shirt now for instance.
I believe you. I'm just conflicted as in which kind of aesthetic I like when it comes to clothes - as you say, dressed&tailored clothing look amazing when you're /fit/, but streetwear stuff can get a kinda iffy fit. If you go for regular/loose fit jeans with hoodies n stuff it can still look good but so far I've been more into the skinny jeans type of fit
for me atleast, the conflict is whether or not i want to increase my squat or fit into regular jeans. im leaning towards the jeans part as it is hell finding jeans that fit when you squat a lot
Streetwear is weak as fuck. Don't buy into it because you will look as retarded and immature as that 33 year old manlet in hba when you graduate college. Then you'll have a bunch of unwearable clothes and be out a bunch of cash. Streetwear is the most foolish style to buy into and time goes by much faster than you think. When you're 24 do you really want to still wear what kids in high school think is cool?
Yeah, true. As I like the silhouette of skinny jeans I need to be a little wary of how the jeans fit.
To be honest I'm not really about streetwear as in HBA, Rick Geos and Supreme, more like toned down, all black-and-grey Raf. But I see your point.
It took longer than I'm proud to admit, but I had a couple of setbacks with getting ill and losing weight. I started out in sep 2013, op pic is from november 2014 or something
Daily reminder that women who say they dont like muscle are just experiencing sour grape syndrome
How is this even difficult unless you're absolutely huge?
Wear pants that fit well. Match color with your shirt. Match your belt with your shoes. Wear cool shoes. If you're not confident in doing anything crazy keep it basic. That's the beauty of being decently fit, you can wear really basic clothes and people still think you're fashionable AS LONG AS THEY FIT
I'm ottermode, I wear "streetwear" and tailored interchangeably, whatever I'm feeling. Cold out street? Tight black v-neck, fitted hoodie or loose sweatshirt over that. Black fitted pants. Black shoes.
Coming from work? White undershirt, fitted buttondown, take off tie, any kind of jeans or black slacks. Dress shoes. Maybe a coat.
How can you be so dense?
Bro, roid big is legitimately nasty. Girls are easy enough to get without running tren and eating clen anyway. All you have to do is talk to them and be confident while taking care of yourself so you aren't gross.
Oh and that's because black and white look good on everyone if you want to get into colors you need to wear things that match hair/skin tone/eyes shit like that. You sound like you have no idea in the world what you're doing at all because looking good in clothes when you're thin and fit is the easiest thing in the world.
This thread got me motivated to start lifting again. But then I remembered how I can barely eat 2k cals a day with my fucked up metabolism and how I barely made any gains after about 2 months of training last time. I have an emotional crisis now.
I'm not trying to disprove anyone, it's just that the skinny aesthetic in combination with skinny fitting clothes is a thing for me. For example, I think this dude>>9416486 would look shit in this kind of outfit if he was ripped. He would look like a total douche and there's no way he'd pull it off. However, as he is a skinny fuck with a narrow frame, he can pull off cocky combinations with a thin silhouette and I really think that works.
What you're talking about is an entirely different thing, which in essence is the other option that I might be striving for. The masculine, athletic looking, well-dressed guy who can wear almost anything and still look great.
These two types are different things and I wasn't trying to disprove you or even argue with you when you stated your argument. I'm not dense, you are angry
lol I never said that, fuck you :DDD
I eat "unhealthy" stuff. I have like 1,2k kcals to down tonight before I go to bed so I bought 150g of Lindt chocolate and I'mma down it with whole milk. Also, whole milk is a great way to get a lot of calories in you without actually eating any food. Just drink a large cup or two to every meal and suddently you're up 1,5k to what you usually eat
it sounds like you'll need new clothes,at the least some new basics anyway
but ITS CRITICAL that you get them tailored more to be fitted at the waist so it doesnt look like youre drowing in your shirt and shows off them gainz
you should REALLY invest in a used sewing machine
>pic related, something like this
>how gay it LOOKS
>bitch this is /fit/
>WE ARE GAI B)
im not talking about the outfit,
im talking about how the shirt itself is fitted,
take generic basic black,grey,white tees and give them a nice fit, great for basics
>jelly of his bulge brah? ;)
I like the jacket, the pants are tight on the thighs because I like the skinny fit and this is how they look with a lil bigger thighs and they were rolled up because I was wearing sneakers without socks
>inb4 damage control
I like the look. The only thing I didn't understand was the critique to the collar
Honestly if you stick to any program that is balanced upper body/lower body for half a year/year you'd get to this, I have been progressing poorly because I've been using a pretty shitty routine for the most part
Started SL 5x5 now to increase my lifts, they are all pretty shitty except for a decent 150kg/330lb DL