What's a good source for basics that are NOT made by tiny childrens hands? preferrably in europe, since i live in europe and that stuff tends to be easier to get. NA or japan made would be good, too. i have two ACNE sweats that i really like, really like the thick cotton and general quality, but i really hate that it's made in china. it's just something i want to stay away from in the future, but most recommended basics seem to be made in china, like the wang shit etc.
American Apparel is the cheapeset shit you can buy, honestly gildan makes nice tees.
AA can afford to use American labour becasue the fabrics they use are the cheapest they can find.
Dumb hoes think its quality cause it says "made in USA" on the tag but that dont mean shit when it falls apart after 2 washes.
Neibourhood have decent basic tees black or white. Theyre like 80 - 100 aud for a pack of three tees and made in jpn. They do have the nbhd branding on the sleeve but its pretty small
James Perse is the best I think, hands down. Damir Doma is also very good but it might not fit your style. Alexander Wang has very good rayon and even the regular tees are good, but I CBA to go and check where it's made and they're elongated compared to most normal t-shirts.
Hmmm... Well they always look nice on me, the material feels/looks nice, the collar is small (you can fit a big muscular neck in there don't worry, it's just slim) and the cut is nice.
A lot of the best price/return basics are made by sweatshops.
P.S., I know this is a shock to the system for most people, but sweatshops are an incredibly good thing. They pay more than almost any other untrained alternative in countries like China. Kids aren't forced to work, they're just desperately poor, and HAVE to work. Giving them a job that's both safer and higher paying than the coal mines, for example, is a great thing.
The witch hunt against sweatshops is almost totally unfounded. I mean sure, they're shitty, but they're as good as they could be given a lot of conditions. If anything, you should be supporting them. I know that can sound crazy, but again, consider the alternatives for those people, which are near-invariably far worse.
Having kids at factories is part of the progression to a more modern and decent society. America did it, and we're not the only ones. It's a good progression into decent and safer work.
"Sweatshops are evil!" Is one of the silliest positions to take. It's entirely a position of feeling and as I've just shown completely opposite a position of knowledge
I heard that Alexander Wang Basics are overpriced considering the quality. I don't have any first hand experience but often heard bad things about them.
I recommend Our Legacy, not the best of the best, but their tees have thick cotton and stay in shape after many washes. It's also made in Portugal I think.
Otherwise I really like Acne's stuff, since the cotton has a nice shimmer and depth to it's color. It's also really soft, nevertheless it easily wrinkles (both sweater and tees) and the neckline is kinda shit on the "measure tee". Since it's mad in China, I know you don't want to buy it but I still wanted to give some input for other anons
They do pay them more than most anyone else. This isn't an american business. The american minimum wage doesn't apply, and indeed COULDN'T apply, or they wouldn't get the business at all. They offer bottom level labor work made appealing to workers by elevated wages, and there's nothing wrong with that. In fact, for a developing nation, it's an absolutely critical step. As they improve economically, they will get better labor laws that they can sustain.
True, but that's not the fault of any company employing an overseas center; China just doesn't have the laws or regulations to keep up with that yet.
They treat them better than anyone else and as well as they can given the nature of their service. Better treatment equals more money to facilitate treatment via purely outside resources, which then equals it being too expensive and risky, which then equals kids in the coal mines.
Everyone acts like they're moral crusaders and that business owners have no concept of humanity, which is just the dumbest thing to say.