0-drama tech thread.
New drops, interesting or useful little known garments, general positive geeking out over clothes. Upbeat and focused like this guy, the mode of the thread is enthusiasm.
First motherfucker to argue that something's not techwear has to answer to what's in my gravity pocket.
I'll post the new Acronym drop in a second.
>mfw nobody can even afford any of the good tech and they end up dressing like plebs in full outlier and isaora
Average /fa/ "tech" poster
The main fabric this season is, I think, new: a cotton-stretch nylon blend by Schoeller. Everything in Wednesday's drop was in it.
>J23-CH evolves the VEHICULARæ concept to work with machines that are open air (cabriolet) and human powered (bicycle). The J23 hood features a 3D ridge that keeps its lower (collar) portion upright and laterally stable independent of the front zipper being closed. This folds the hood in half when not being worn - keeping it's volume low, close, and stable at speed. It maintains this stability even when the front zipper is fully open for maximum venting.
>The asymmetrically curved driver / rider position Escape Zipæ allows one to doff the jacket when wearing either a seatbelt or a messenger bag. Front and holster pockets are stretch mesh lined for air flow. KG fit block gives unparalleled comfort when forward over the bars, cornering, or maneuvering in a tight cabin space.
>FORCELOCKæ [ Removable ]
>JACKETSLINGæ [ Removable ]
>Logo tape [ Removable ]
>P10 is a fully articulated pant with 5 MM reverse coil zip gusseted cuffs and reinforced [ 2 x self ] seat and knees. Its motorcross derived shape is close cut for speed, yet allows the maximum range of movement (ergo: ride a bike, get on a horse, kick a head). With carabiner attachment loop and carabiner garage.
Both these only come in grey melange.
Also, I'll quit taking up the thread image limit.
wow u dress like a 1337 hacker but u aint one
wow stop being dum i never implied that
do u know me
>I can't afford it so it's automatically bad
I buy whatever I want so it doesn't really matter anyway. Poor people can't into higher fashion
They are. The P10 is my second-favorite Acronym pants pattern and probably the most beautiful, and I think this new fabric is probably much more my taste than prior offerings.
My favorite are these old work pants, though.
>A straight leg work pant built from the ground up on an a new narrower fit block. Unifying the best elements from diverse sources: uniform upper pockets, martial arts gusset, jeanswear fit, sportswear side access pockets, and internal finishings from classical menswear. Pure ACR.
>Fabric: STOTZ® ETAPROOF™ HIGH-DENSITY COTTON
>Pockets: external: 6 / internal: 0
Something like the P10 pattern with pocketing like this and a Keprotec, wool backed twill would be my dream pant.
Do you mean just leaf.arcteryx.com, or the LEAF discount program?
Fit on the left hand side of the frame is perfect.
Outlier just dropped these, the Free Way shorts.
>Sometimes the most obvious insights are sitting right in front of you. Our OG Cloth is what we used in both our very first pants and very first shorts. As a pants fabric it's decidedly middle weight, versatile and capable of being worn year round. As shorts fabric it's actually on the heavier side, but that heaviness is masked by its incredible four-way stretch and doubleweave features. Like a superstar athlete it breathes and moves like a far lighter fabric, but with all the strength and durability that extra mass provides.
>What the OG Cloth needed to reach its full potential as a shorts fabric was to break free of the tailored tradition of our previous shorts. We started with a new integrated waistband construction designed to maximize movement. We added a gusseted crotch, not for our usual movement driven reasons, but because it allowed us to taper the leg opening while leaving loads of breathing room up top. We kept some crucial details and added a few subtle new ones. Flow through pockets and an internal drawcord for swimming, self closing magnetic rear pockets, a front slider button and integrated key loop on the waistband.
>The result is a new shorts silhouette that both looks and moves incredibly well and with all the performance of our OG Cloth, plus a little bit more.
They also have a woman's version, which is exactly the same except for a shorter inseam, no key loop, and smaller, less dramatic pictures and abbreviated copy on the website, which is kinda gross but at least they exist.
Ooh, what's this?
Stop shitposting. How many art critics can afford a quarter of the works they write about?
It would be deliberately obtuse to say that money has nothing to do with either art-art or fashion, but it is the least interesting thing about anything good.
>one off art pieces that are displayed in museums and galleries that are only owned privately by billionaires
>clothing that is produced in non limited quantities and is marketed for consumer consumption
Yeah good one (poorfag)
I love it when Outlier pushes their basic formula a little, taking what are already solid basics to be just that much more nice and satisfying. Intricacy and added, useful features are some of the things that endear me most to clothes.
One interesting thing to contrast Outlier's approach and Acronym's - Outlier has the little key loop here. Acronym frequently adds a full on *carabiner garage*, the piece of fabric you see cutting a diagonal down from the waistband to the hand pockets on the P10.
It's at once more dramatic, more subtle, and more useful. It's a big fold of fabric, that tucks away your carabiner, and keeps it at the side of your hip where it's easier to reach.
Whereas Outlier goes with something more obvious and simpler but that keeps the appearance of the garment more conventional overall.
It's the difference suggested in comparing these two quotes:
"The technology is not the fabric. The fabric is not the technology." - Errolson Hugh, maker of pants in cotton
"...you wind up with clothing designed to solve imaginary problems. You get absurd reflective bits, bike lock holder and weird pant leg systems that are actually harder to use than just cuffing your pants." - Abe Burmeister, maker of pants in Schoeller Dryksin.
In that post is the P4S, which, yes, is a completely different pant *as I discussed right in the fucking post, saying I wanted a hybrid of that and the P10 >>8351596 in a more exotic fabric*.
GTFO, stop derailing, I'm not replying anymore.
What are the similarities that matter most to you?
One thing I would think would be a strong possibility is the Tilak Loke. It's substantially different - it's in Ventile instead of WB 400, it's patterned more like an outdoor piece and less like a street hoody - but they definitely look related, and maybe are.
Acronym and Tilak have a pretty close relationship - Acronym does some design work for them, and their factory makes a lot of Acronym's garments.
Highres shot of the Loke coming up next.
I'll post stuff on a hardshell that Errolson said was his design on Twitter in a sec.
One good thing about the Loke being in Ventile is that it should be easy to sew something over the logo if you want to debrand it.
Here's the hardshell, the Tilak Asgard.
>Universal mountaineering jacket made of three-layer GORE-TEX®. Due to low weight and good packability is suitable not only for mountaineering or extreme skiing.
>Stronger material as reinforcement. Integrated ventilation system with WaterTight™ zippers in the armpits. Laminated zipper garages. Anatomically shaped sleeves. Laminated asymmetrical cuffs with one-touch adjustment. Two outer pockets, laminated inner pocket, shoulder pocket. Big hood with one-touch adjusting. Draw cord at the hips. 13 mm “Micro Tape”. Gusseted underarm sleeves. Anatomic hem.
Not quite an Acronym video, but illustrative.
This is like the only guy posting in here. I don't even know why we bother with these threads, nobody has a clue what any of this shit is, and it's mostly out of the range for people on /fa/.
There's always Styleforum and Superfuture, bruh.
These really caught my eye.
I'm geeking out over some of the lines on the P10, reminds me of some of the geometric fashion from Deus Ex. Will post examples in a second.
Apparently, she is 6'7", augmented height, of course.
Nice tech detail with the digital maps built into the thighs of her flight suit.
The entire game is amazingly crafted, all that geometric future architecture was great.
Yeah, I'm tempted to post some other concept art, but a lot of it strays from tech wear, into the crafted cyber-renaissance style. Ruffles and patterns everywhere. Especially that asian lady and the creepy news reporter.
I'm on and off 4chan, but when I'm on, I do post disproportionately in techwear threads. But this is the first one I've started in like six months, so I'm definitely not the only one interested.
I'm just trying to raise the discussion here some - I remember genuinely fucking awesome, thoughtful conversations on here through most of last year, before things soured in the Autumn. Left for a while in the winter, and I've been back a few months, and I just can't be the only person into this vein of stuff who isn't trying to pretend he's a PMC or shout about how people are poor.
Too tired to feel or think through these ATM, but I will tomorrow. Keep posting; there's no reason to limit techwear to just minimalist stuff.
Have some mood inspo for now, the new Library of Alexandria.
I was remembering the days of being an early teen wearing my based Vince Carter Raptors jersey and i'm thinking about implementing mesh shirts into my summer tech fit, what do you guys think? It also would allow for black and dark navy to be used on your torso without killing yourself by attracting so much heat
I'm there with you, but I've gotten tired of retards in these threads that think that ACRONYM is the only tech brand.
They make good shit, yes, but it is ridiculously over priced. There is a diminishing return on quality and function when using the same damn fabrics.
How do I justify 1k for a jacket? That's like my entire budget for a month.
Honestly though, I'm just in the market for a jacket with a sling, and oversized cargo pants. If you guys could think of something, it would be great.
As much as I love ACRNM and their design philosophy, shits expensive as ffug
I can't imagine why or how you would justify spending $1,000 on a jacket that you can get something that functionally does the same thing and still looks decent for less than half of that price.
Ever considered working as an archivist, curator, or museum technician? Since you're dealing with extremely valuable documents and specimens in regulated environments, it makes sense to have clothes that keep you comfy and are low profile. also museums and archives are generally in cities so you'd be able to commute on a bike or something.
I'm thinking of shifting my focus from a stem field into one of the archival fields.
that's what i'm saying though. I could deal with a $400 outershell with a sling because it's well within my budget.
Not many people do the sling (honesty, I don't really get it myself).
Does it need to be water proof, or is resistant going to work enough for you? (IE: do you plan on wearing it in downpour?)
just a sling really. wouldn't make sense to carry your jacket when it's raining. it's useful when you don't want to or cannot shove your jacket into your bag.
i might just sew on a strap to a jacket but i don't know what to work with because I'm afraid i might ruin the fabric nor do i have the materials to properly seal and reinforce the stitching.
Is there a point to techwear if you're not a parkour athlete or a bicyclist preparing for a future as a courier in a dystopian megacity? I know this sounds like a troll post, but legitimately, I'm curious as to what sort of lifestyle you have to lead to really enjoy high end techwear. I mean, myself being a non-athletic guy in a rural area, I can't see why I'd ever appreciate any techwear more complex than some Maharishi cargos and a cheap parka. I have no idea how I'd ever make use of the crazy features these things have unless a hurricane hit and I was trapped outside.
I build my techwear fits to combat the elements with the challenge of looking normal while still being able to go about my business in adverse weather conditions.
I live in Chicago, so it rains 2-3x a week here and it was absurdly cold last winter. All of my tech pieces are to address any of those problems.
Plus, the side benefit of in the event one of these fucking ridiculous ass storms hit, I've got the garments to combat the weather in the event something really does happen.
Like it or not, that's my reasoning.
It's not the only tech brand, but the only other person doing things along a tech vector at as high a level as Errolson is Aitor Throup, whose output so far is less substantially less accessible in every sense: in frequency, in availability, in price, conceptually.
What does this even mean, though, besides "more than I want to pay for something?"
Acronym is a tiny, tiny company dealing with small, specialized production runs, heavy R&D overhead, etc. etc. basically a nightmare cost structure. It's in the luxury RTW segment, competing against companies like Rick, Visvim, Undercover, White Mountaineering, etc. that /fa/ almost never whines about the price of, who move much more volume and usually don't have as extravagant a process as Acronym, with usually less function, for usually higher prices.
>There is a diminishing return on quality and function when using the same damn fabrics.
You're not paying for the fabric so much. You're paying for Errolson's design talent and expertise and countless hours of labor put into making everything right, small custom production runs, the brand, retailer markups, etc.
To repeat an Errolson quote from earlier upthread: "The technology is not the fabric. The fabric is not the technology."
I've got to run, so this is mostly a bump, but I'll go into why these kinds of sums are worth it, what the point of tech is, etc. later on tonight.
Two things: copping used can yield amazing results, as with a large portion of the luxury RTW market, and
The nice thing about slings is that your jacket becomes your bag. As far as sewing a sling on - DO NOT do it with any kind of membrane fabric (anything waterproof/breathable except Nixwax Analogy, most "windproofs" that aren't just light windbreakers) but most anything else should be fine. Basically, if the fabric has non-microscopic holes in it anyway, you don't have to worry.
>not slinging your jackets
most (if not all) acronym outerwear has some kind of sling like that. that hoodie (DS-HD2) is particularly unique because the sling is semi-internal
Who do you guys think are the target demographic(s) for brands like Acronym? The whole idea of classifying 'techwear' seems to remove the idea of function and utility and replace it with fashion or design as the paramount. Obviously Acronym styles itself as a fashionable company, but are they also going after real adventurers and shit who might need the techy fabrics and features?
Can someone tell me the difference between
I absolutely fucking love that sling that comes on Acronym stuff. Holding a coat is one of those minor inconveniences that you sorta just deal with, so I really appreciate the fact they integrated a backpack strap kinda thing into it.
thinking of copping a pair of these, the XL is way too big for my waist, but are these tailorable? I see no reason why they wouldn't be but maybe someone can shed some light on it for me? thanks