formal & casual classic clothing: non-dadcore edition

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>>10939219

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>>10939223

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>>10939230

>>10939223
I would never walk like that in the street, looks like a clown

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>>10939234

>>10939235
yea, better pull off a full rick
which is definitely NOT clownish

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>>10939235
I think it looks really good.

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>>10939244

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>>10939252

>>10939239
This.

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I've purchased tickets to the opera for Valentine's Day. I'll be wearing a black suit, and while I'd like to stay somewhat formal to show respect for the performers, I don't want to be too stiff. I thought a nice white mandarin collar button-down, no tie, might be a great way to achieve this. Thoughts on mandarin collars with suits? I've also got the choice between a traditional weave suit, or a textured weave. How try-hard/douchey is it to wear a textured suit?

Pic related.

>>10939478
Nobody has a clue

>>10939252
ebin. w2c dat coat?

>>10939244

Being a chink isnt /fa/

keep it going guys, best inspo in a long time!

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>>10939902
Can't wait to get my MTM overcoat from these guys.

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>>10939911

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>>10939478
Not a fan of mandrin collar unless you're from Asia. I almost always prefer more textured jackets, but that's because I like more informal clothes. It'd be much easier to point you in the right direction if you could post a picture of the two suits.

>>10939853
hue

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>>10939931

>>10939234

why why why why why why why do people ever make messy cuffs
it triggers me every fucking time
just fucking WHY
you look like a 12 year old, autistic, or like someone who has some form of degenerative nerve disorder and can't coordinate properly

fuck

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>>10939935

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>>10939940
It's just clothes, man.

>>10939945

I know, it just looks so goddamn bad ;__;

>>10939940
It is a casual fit senpai..

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>>10939978
Forgot pic

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>>10939982

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>>10939988

>>10939235
He pulls the look together and makes it work by making the rest of the colours subdued and monochrome - and monochrome is the antithesis of clown

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>>10939993

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>>10939999

>>10939478
I don't like mandarin collars with suit jackets. I think you could just wear a blue button-down collar oxford or chambray and be fine

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>>10940005

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>>10940012

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>>10940049

>>10940017
that's so nice holy shit

>>10939892
Someone should give a site where to cop that turtleneck or stop fucking posting it

>>10940060
I already gave it in the last thread where someone (you?) asked for it.

http://samanamel.se/collections/knitwear/products/knitwear-turtleneck

>>10940059
Black looks pretty good in pictures but idk how it would look in reality...besides that black is very formal...dont wanna look like I just came from funeral

This seems like a good thread to ask this.
What is the difference between trousers and suit pants? For example, I'll see inspo with guys in what seems to be nice bottoms, a button up, and a sweater, but still seems to be casual. I can't find any examples because I'm not sure what I'm looking for, but there was a thread a while back and the OP had a pic of Raf in basically what I'm describing. Any help would be much appreciated

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>>10940129

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>>10940117
>What is the difference between trousers and suit pants?

Is there a difference?

If one were to generalise, suit pants are usually more formal and in a finer fabric (super 100's wool, for example), instead of more informal fabrics like flannel. Suit pants are also usually very plain, whereas odd trousers have a pattern.

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>>10939219
Christ it looks so horrible when the pants sit that low.

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>>10941367

>>10939964
>unironically posting gq shit
WHY

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>>10940183
jesus that collar is so wimpy

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>>10941385

>>10939243
Italian fascismcore

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>>10941386
>>10940643
You do realize that this is just inspo right? It doesnt mean that every fit is perfect. In some pic there just might be an interesting pattern on a coat or I just happen to like the color combination.

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I know the fit is shit, but w2c pants like this?

>>10941396
This is good, r-right?

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>>10939219

>>10939478

Bigger question is where is the Opera?

Locally for me in DC, Kennedy Center usually will have people in full tux. But some of the smaller venues would be a range.

>>10939238
anyone have similar summer type outfits?

>>10940158
The difference is that "suit pants" can't be worn without the matching jacket. Thin, flimsy fabrics that work fine as a suit don't hold up under scrutiny or when matched with a different jacket. I typically eschew this approach and go for heavier and more informal fabrics for suits to be made out of (but no bold patterns), and can mix and match as I choose.

>>10941412
You do realize I'm still allowed to voice my opinion, right?

>>10940014
>tfw there was a barista at the local cafe who was a tall, thin, blonde version of Rebecca Hall
>tfw she moved to Europe

I never went back to the cafe after she left.

>>10940059
>mustache tie clip
>faux python phone case
>"so nice"

Your taste is shit.

>>10942585
It's funny how one of the worst images in this thread was the only one to ellicit a positive reaction from someone (save for the faggot who always cries source for the turtleneck).

/fa/ in a nutshell.

>>10939993

This is really good. First time I've saved inspro from /fa/

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#menswear is a meme.

None of us will wear this kind of clothes for anything other than a job interview.

Just get 1 set of business casual you don't need more, at ANY point of your life.

It's better to assemble real styles.
have 1 set of business casual
and 1 formal set.
THATS IT.

>>10942695
What about those of us with jobs that involve more complex things than serving other people coffee or french fries?

>>10942708
like what. and post proof of your job. pics or didnt happen. youre a fucking dentist at best.

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>>10942695
I am only a (german) business student and 1 suit wouldnt be enough for all the events,interviews and internships I have to attend to in formal attire.
Ofc a thread like this isnt for somebody whos biggest accomplishment is a job at McDonalds.

>>10942749
so you will be self employed? no boss.

basically you have all the freedom to be comfy and have an style. if thats the case.

the only jobs that dont let u do what u want are the ones where youre the dog of someone else.

Im self employed now (welding), fell for the menswear meme back in 2010 and I dont have an use for 80% of the things. probably going to sell them on a garage sale.

save the money and spend it on slp or something nice u can wear casually. I wish some one gave me that advice back then.

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>>10942733
Why don't you guess what I do?

I'll give you a small hint: pic related.

>>10942749
You don't need 10 suits either (not that I'm claiming you said that, just hear me out): 3 suits can go a long way. Grey, navy and brown in a fabric that allows you to break them up (like a birdseye weave) can give you a lot of different combinations without having to buy a dozen suits that can only be worn as full suits.

>>10942791
>fell for the menswear meme back in 2010 and I dont have an use for 80% of the things

No wonder you're so salty.

And why would being a business student mean someone will be self-employed? I'd say that's more of a rarity in this field... Accountants, comptrollers, people in marketing, financial analysts etc.

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>>10940017

>cheapest looking 80% polyester suit I've ever seen
>probs from moss bros
>moustache tie clip - cringe-worthy attempt at seeming classy
>not going for a more interesting tie

>>10942814

as someone working in big 4 you wouldn't have any of those books ready for a picture unless you're still a student. that looks like the course load of someone in community college majoring in business.

no one in accounting wears formal clothing unless they're forced to meet with a client and most people just have two suits for work

>>10943019
>community college
I dont think he is an amerifat anon.

>>10941429
Bump

>>10942695
>None of us will wear this kind of clothes for anything other than a job interview.
Fucking lol

This board is so underage most of the time. I wear a suit to work every day. I like these threads.

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>>10940017
>Le Mustache Tie Clip

But otherwise I love it man

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>>10943085

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>>10943090

>>10943019
I have my bachelor's already but I'm still taking more classes to be able to get a slightly better certificate/degree ("civilekonom"/civil economist, I think it's a nordic thing). Currently working part time doing very menial tasks just to have some experience for when I'm all done with school. Even so, the job still requires me to wear a suit.

Currently at home though, since I have the squirts. Fortunately though I haven't sold off all my books yet, and I don't think I'll sell them all anyway. Too much effort, too little gain.

Other than that, great detective work! No wonder you got into one of the big 4.

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If you have something pls contribute, about 60 to 70% of the pics are from me. I need some new inspo too. :^)

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>>10943105
And the rest have been from me...

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>>10943202

>>10943183
Why does the man have cutlery in his pocket? That just seems weird and unsanitary.

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>>10943204
>>10943210
Forgot pic lol

>>10943208
You never know when someone might offer you some food out of the blue, and you wouldn't want to stand there feeling stupid while trying to eat pasta with your fingers.

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>>10943232

>>10942733

Not the guy you're trying to flame, but this is my job title. I interact with patients and other professional entities on a daily basis, I don't wear a suit everyday, but a shirt and tie is necessary at the very least.

Currently doing this job in-between UG and MD/MPH, so yeah... daily menswear is in my future.

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>>10943302
>>10942733

forgot pic.

>>10943158

w2c jacket?

>>10943320
Isaia.

>>10941412
w2c jacket

>>10943095
>I got rekt but don't want to admit to it

>>10940117
there is absolutely no difference

>>10942785
Some really nice looks in here if you look past the monochrome dude in the front

>>10943642
Yeah, I love especially the one on the left in the front.

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i'm invited to a 1920's speakeasy themed party next weekend. trying to generate ideas on a working class outfit from that era. suggestions?

mandarin collar
wool vest
suspenders
newsboy cap

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>>10943682
Surveyor look

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>>10943682
Manual labourer look

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>>10943682
Looks from a bit earlier than what you're going for but would still work (also you posted a picture of protests in the 60s for some reason?)

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>>10943767
More

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>>10943682
More worker looks

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>>10943682
Plenty of looks here (but this is more 30s I think)

So anybody have experience with Noak or Noose and Monkey? Thinking about getting a suit from them on ASOS.

Just gonna throw this out there before this thread dies, thoughts on chelseas with a suit in general?
More specifically camel suede with a blue suit.

>>10945685
Chelseas are more on the informal side, so a navy suit would probably be best.
Imo a darker suede would look better, but I am no expert, you should ask in the styleforum. There are actually some people that know a lot about this.

>>10944419
Never heard of them, sounds cheap if they are available at asos.
Have you tried Suitsupply first? Whats your budget?

>>10939238
How to pull off that look on the right (polo shirt with white jeans/chinos) with long hair?

>>10943095
This is obvious damage control, since you didn't call his post out for being blatantly stupid.
>>10943019
You're also full of shit, B4 is the laughing-stock of Wall St. Bulge bracket also exists you braindead /fa/ggot, if he worked in IBD he'd wear suits every single god damn day of his fucking life. I work in M&A for Goldman, and I can guarantee you no one would be caught dead without wearing one.

Now sit down, I think my VP is calling me to ring the bitch boy from B4 to do the desk monkey work for a pitch, lmfao.

>>10945729
Look up some Ralph Lauren Inspo, old and new. They have some long haired models.

>>10945835
Thank you. I'll do some searching.

>>10945685
Chelseas are a wild card, much like club collar shirts - they can be worn extremely casually depending on the details, but a sleek last polished to a high gloss can work for black tie. The only place they're not really welcome is white tie - although a stiff club collar works just fine for morning dress. You could probably wear high shine chelsea boots to Royal Ascot, too.

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>>10945770
Been a while since ive seen such nice ethering on /fa/. Savoring the tears, thanks anon.

>>10945685
dunno about suede chelseas with a suit, especially light-colored - they're basically a tan desert boot at that point and suede is pretty casual except for when it's black

>>10945710
Between 300 to 400

>>10946542
Then definately go to suitsupply, go to their store.
You wont find anything better in quality in that price range.

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Is it worth springing for full canvas over half canvas?

>>10947181
If you're on a tight budget, no.

The most important part is the chest anyway.

>>10947702
most important part is the armholes
if he wants to move around at all

>>10947181
Suit supply makes shitty suits

It's cute that they market canvassing as a gimmick but construction matters more than full, half canvassing or fused construction methods.

Keep in mind that some people on 4 Chan have degrees and slave wage office jobs need to wear them daily.

While you're just looking to rock a bright red Zara suit for clubbing on NYE

>>10942695
I'm an IT Technician at a school and wear shit like this all the time.
In the summer I wear loafers with a button down shirt and no tie, winter I have chelsea boots with a cardigan.

>>10947748
We're talking about canvassing here, but yeah, high armholes > full canvas.

>>10947788
>Suit supply makes shitty suits
No, they dont. Maybe in the US their stuff is worse...idk
In eurape you wont find anything better in their price range.

>>10946724
Good looking out will keep them in mind. I'll still get a Noose and Monkey suit for my everyday suit but I'll def get a suit supply suit as well.

>>10948384
While I like the concept of their double-breasted vests and the variety in colours they stock, the fit leaves a lot to be desired, especially with the poor fit of their suit pants and the anorexic lapels. My advice is to pick something you won't regret three years from now - if it were $50 for the whole thing that would be one thing, but if you buy from Noose and Monkey you'll be out of pocket a whole lot of money for not very much suit.

>>10948506
Oh, and a lot of them are over half polyester too. Avoid like the plague.

>>10948508
Ick yeah I was pulled in because of the sells ASOS had. And yeah I love their colors and combos as well but damn they do like super skinny everything. And that's a damn bother. And I try to avoid the poly trap as much as I can. I'll be ordering my first suit from Suitsupply soon thanks to you lol. You really talked me into it.

>>10945770

his course load is the equivalent to what any first semester accounting student would take. no one claimed to be in IB and really unless someone wants to jump ship to be ridiculed as an older associate the concept of IB never crosses an accountants mind.

literally no one in accounting cares about dressing up in a suit outside of the office unless, as i said, they're meeting with a client. as much as you dream about being patrick bateman, it's not a reality. next time at least say you're a VP like he is.

>>10948794
Yes, and his course work is incredibly vague and applies to everything in the industry.

He never claimed to be an accountant by any means. You're actually just a tryhard pleb who got rekt by >>10945770

>>10939219

I think the funny thing is, since /fa/ is mostly 18 year olds this is considered formal, when this is just maybe business/casual.

Formal wear is a legit tux peeps

>>10949300
That's pretty casual - basically resortwear, not even officewear

>>10940057
Frank's the pinnacle of /fa/

>>10949300
Well it says formal & casual

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>>10949469
Right?!

Just look at how that bug-eyed cutie is adoring him.

>tfw no bug-eyed qt 3,14

>>10939223
>>10939228
>>10939234
>>10939269
>>10939892
>>10939918
>>10939935
>>10940027
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>>10940129
>>10940187
>>10940219
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>>10943762

Cringeworthy Trash.

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>>10949824

>>10949847
If you look closely, I highlighted all of the shit fits in the thread.

I'm doing a service.

ny fit that I didn't link is not cringe worthy.

example:
>>10941354

>>10949850
How are
>>10939223
>>10939228
>>10939234
>>10939269
>>10940027
>>10943135
cringeworthy?

You should also keep in mind that this is inspo and not something to copy 1:1

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These are far from cringe-worthy:

>>10939892
>>10939918
>>10939935

Then again I'm biased since I posted these. I do agree that the majority of fits here are pretty bad though.

Wouldn't it be better if people would highlight the fits they actually enjoy and find inspiring - maybe even post why - instead of just complaining about the fits that are bad though?

>>10949864

you have a point about the inspo.

>>10939223
is pretty much something a gypsy would wear but thrown in greyscale and with a good cut.
If it wasnt plaid it would look pretty good.

>>10939228
neither of their jackets fit and the colors dont fly in my book. the fits look forced and tryhard.

>>10939234
Get your pants hemmed if they dont fit.

>>10939269
Although its not that clear whats goin on,
leggings? a black turtleneck under a jacket like that? Also the proportions make the jacket look long but its not real fit so w/e.

>>10940027
The sleeves look like ducts and the pants are a little over the top. If it was worn in and fit better it could be good. also his posture takes a few points off.

>>10943135
The overcoat could be extremely fashionable if you were on an army base or just out of service, and the fit underneath works well.
They don't fit together at all. A nice overcoat, black or camelhair, could work well with a similar fit underneath, but the army thing doesn't really work unless youre in the army. I can't see someone in the army wearing that shirt/tie/jacket underneath either.


I'm not trying to shitpost, just trying to get some discussion about fashion and what works goin, and trying to keep our standards high.

>>10939892
same color turtleneck plus bright white pants dont do it for me. aside from being a turtleneck with a blazer, being the same color turtleneck is similar to wearing a suit with the exact same color jacket, shirt, and tie.
Also lol @ that bracelet, its like he took a watch that would fit with that getup and decided that he should wear just the band instead.

>>10939918
poorly fit and a tshirt under a suit.


>>10939935
compare to
>>10939993
basically if you wear an overcoat, put your arms in the sleeves. Also the formality of an overcoat, especially camel hair in my opinion, doesn't go well with such an informal sweater. fit without the coat is fine tho.

>>10949882
posted my reasons.

Yeah, if the threads still here tomorrow and I feel like i might highlight why I like some of them.

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>>10949910
>aside from being a turtleneck with a blazer

I don't get why this is inherently bad. I think wearing a turtleneck instead of a shirt can help tone down the formality level which can be great when you're young and don't want to look "little old" (don't know the right phrase in english, but think of the fedora-kiddies who try to emulate the 50's style while having a baby face).

It just makes it more casual and "sporty", something that works better for the majority of people.

>poorly fit and a tshirt under a suit.
The person in the photo looks (from what little you can see) quite young, and while I'm not personally a fan of tone-to-tone I still don't get why wearing a sweater under a suit is inherently bad.

God forbid someone wears sneakers with a suit, right?

Still, kudos for posting why you didn't like them, makes these threads infinitely more interesting rather than just one-liners going "shit fit".

>>10949910
I'd disagree on the "put your arms in the sleeves" for that specific picture. Who knows - he (she?) could have just been cold and wanted a shrug on their shoulders - their overcoat was handy so they grabbed it but didn't want all the warmth that comes with it/wanted their arms to be free and unrestricted. Or their bigger stronger boyfriend draped it over their shoulders because -chivalry-.

Although I do agree in general. If you're walking down the street you better have your arms in your sleeves, that's kind of what they're there for.

>>10939219

These are pretty much the worst buttons I have seen in my life. What is this pleb tier bullshit

>>10939931
w2c jacket

>>10951566
Barbour, jacket model is a Bedale I think.

>>10951962
Good luck getting one with long enough sleeves if you're not a manlet

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>>10951982
Could go for the Beaufort in that case.

>>10948287
This

>>10943098
Fuark, the left guy's tweeds are good.
The other two are the epitome of douchebag tho t bh.

>>10952988
agreed

>>10942695
>I'll never be in a situation where I wear business casual more than a week
No shit junior,

I have a bunch of formal-looking trousers in navy, charcoal, black, and lighter gray, but I only have one suit jacket that goes with the charcoal pants.

What are the best jacket colors to get that go with all the other pants? And what are the rules on wearing a "suit" where the jacket and pants are different colors?

>>10941350
Christopher Bailey has his finger on the pulse. Not a big fan of the latest collection though.

>no socks
>visible ankles

Bretty good ensemble IMO

Most of this shit is extremely uncomfortable.

>>10939219
https://youtu.be/HQa_vjHVSEk
1st post on /fa

>>10953535
>has never worn a good suit
>complains his H&M shit is uncomfortable

We get it. You're poor.

>>10953562
And what buying overpriced shit is good mate?

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Might be a matching thread (which I really enjoy quite a lot so far, thanks OP!) for my question:

Which tie looks best with that sports coat? It's blue-ish and textured, and changes its color all the time, depending on how you look at it.
Leaning towards grey, purple or red so far.
Or do I need a totally different tie?

>>10953535
No, not really, however, if you come from wearing a T-shirt or a hoodie and jeans all the time, wearing for example a shirt with a tie takes some getting used to. My first few times, I always had some friction sores at the sides of my throat, even with expensive shirts with a comfy fabric, but after a while, your skin adapts.

>>10953598
No, buying quality suits that fit well, have a floating canvas construction and high armholes in a good material is good.

Whether it's worth the premium over cheaper suits is entirely up for debate though. Some people will think it is, some won't.

That said: flannel suits are love.

>>10953713
>That said: flannel suits are love.
Except when it is summer. I love flannel, that thick fabric just drapes so much nicer than all those "normal", thin, shiny wools you get in suits normally, but holy shit, does that stuff get warm!

sometimes, I can understand the fedoras, wishing back to some older times, where buildings in winter where only heated so much, that a 3 piece flannel suit was the perfect wear, and where public transport had no heating either.

>>10953729
>Except when it is summer.

Yeah, you're not exactly supposed to wear flannel during summer, it's for the three other seasons.

Flannel suits can easily be broken up as well, so you don't have to wear a full suit.

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>>10939219
>non-dadcore
>1st pic is of 40 year old father of 4

>>10953744
>Yeah, you're not exactly supposed to wear flannel during summer, it's for the three other seasons.
But I want to wear them all the time, they look so great!
But I would even change that to
>not exactly supposed to wear flannel during spring, summer or autumn, it's for the other season
I live in the fucking alps, and it's always way too warm for a flannell suit.

>captcha: pick the mountains

>>10939234
W2C pants?

>>10953752
is that 2 pancakes

>>10953801
I live in the middle of Canada. Heavy wool flannel suits are good for 9 months of the year here.

>>10955464
In Sweden they're good 12 months of the year.

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Slim fit is a big problem

>>10943132
What is the model's name or do you have any other angles? I need a better pic of that hairstyle

>>10958931
its that dumbass fad where the suit jacket is stretched across the chest.

Some idiots think that because they lift a couple of weights they have to wear tight as fuck clothing, but they dont realise that it makes them look like shit. same kind of person that gets a bad fohawk.

slimfit on its own is good. It's just that, like all things, you need a bit of fucking taste.

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are gators /fa/?

>>10940005
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>>10939999

Fucking had to wade through shit to find this actual inspo. Thank you anon I will save these.

Black chelseas with a slim fitting suit are okay