>>10914234 No, most left wingers are genuine hard working people; ie the actual fucking working class. They're not identity politics-pushing middle class twats with 30cm gauges and a worthless degree from a liberal arts college.
>>10913480 Put "National" in front of that and now you've got something.
Socialists are sheltered jews with no sense of reality. There is nothing effay about everyone knowing you grew up your parents money/welfare, whome paid for your degree in the "social [pseudo] Science.
Nearly all Anti-Capitalist sentiment comes from those living under Capitalism and taking the liberties it offers for granted. Alternatively, some the most Anti-Socialist attitudes come from those who have actually lived in Socialist or Communist countries.
>>10914706 Nearly all Pro-Capitalist sentiment comes from those who are fucking faggot cucks who have no idea what socialism actually is and are fucking stupid cunts but like to play the wise economist on the internet. Alternatively, some of the most Pro-Socialist attitudes come from those who have actually lived in Socialist or Communist countries.
>>10913480 Being born into socialism, I can say that you are all talk and no walk. Socialism is the most fucked ideology you could believe in because people do not behave ideally, they will always find a way to do the least amount of work and get the most amount out of it. Its basic human nature and it is like slavery to hold a predetermined life.
>>10914286 so all the left-wing people you've met are a valid indicator of all left-wing people in the world, but all the right-wing people >10914240 met aren't an indicator of anything, what incredible reasoning (hint: neither is evidence of much, you have to look at a bigger group of people and people that don't all run in the same social circles to get a feel for something so large)
>>10915976 Cuba is an awful example of socialism so I understand your hatred for the word. It's very, very far from the moderate forms of it (ie social liberalism/democracy) made famous by Scandinavia and practiced to varying degrees by most of Europe.
And before you people start talking about Swedistan; no, extreme refugee policies is not a staple of scandinavian socialism. It's a very recent thing originating from near neo-liberalism and dishonest journalism. Social democracy is probably one of the ideologies that has the most reason to stay away from mass immigration (lest there are issues in the country, like the working class shrinking in favour of an over-educated middle-class) due to its welfare systems and the power its unions give to the workers. Mass immigration (unless it happens because of the previously mentioned exception) floods the market with unskilled, low wage labour which weakens the unions because foreigners aren't prone to join the them, which in turn strengthens the corporate leaders of the free market* and leads to a general decline in the standard of living for the working class.
* - yes, the free market is an incredibly important aspect of social democracy. With the exception of some state monopolies that exist to benefit the people rather than create a Comcast-esque situation where corporations that are only concerned with profit will abuse their position.
Contrast that with no bread lines in capitalist countries with similar resources, i.e. starvation. A fair comparison isn't USSR vs. U.S., it's USSR vs. Brazil, and Brazil doesn't do well. Why do you think leftist parties still do well in the former Eastern Bloc? Die Linke is more popular in the East than the West.
>tfw 4chan can't differentiate true revolutionary socialist theory from the failed attempts at communism, never truly reaching Marxist utopia for one reason or another. Both left-wing and right wing fits are fa. Most leftist revolutionaries from the 1960s looked amazing, as did a select few Nazi fits, even though it can be argued that leftists had the best fits imo.
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