How does the adoption of Cav Empt as the go to brand for internet techninjas make you feel.
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Ill post some scans from Super Modern Wardrobe tomorrow.
I'd like to work on an OP format too.
Looks kinda wack
do you have a model pic?
it's a little normie-wear but i want to have a low-powerlevel outfit
Aitor does re releases of his products but are next to impossible to purchase. I had a conversation with Flying Lotus once about Throup and he said that AT couldnt even afford his own pieces.
The man is an artist before a clothing designer
Guerilla Group from SS14 if i can recall. Same pants as pictured
Im not vibing with it too much on him my man
I want to buy this.
>Shell: 100% polyester microfiber
>Lining: 100% Polyester
What does this mean? Does it mean it's like sports jersey material?
I tell my friends all the time how much a hate summer. Not even for techwear purposes, but I just own so many jackets. Hell, pants and long sleeves too, you just can barely wear depending on the weather. Shit, it can even ruin the soles of your shoes.
Fuck summer senpai
Dropping these to $160 if anyone w2c
Could work with a select few techwear fits...obviously not black ones but you get the idea.
Just add the general guide and its fine. It literally contains most stufd people need.
Also do post scans. I wanna see if its worth a physical copy.
On the Cav Empt stuff - I feel weird about it. On one hand because people then move away from the #acrnm style fits when adopting techwear but I dont really consider the brand the stereotypical techwear brand with an emphasis on functionality but a streetwear brand. Cav Empt also looks much more easy to the eyes of regular people than SISP or Acronym. It seems like the aesthetic is being watered down. It did back in the mid 2000s and now its happening again. I hope this is a sign for subtle techwear being more mainstream at least.
I think the brand is popular not as a "techwear" brand, but just adopted because the graphic tees and bandanas and shit appeal to the aesthetics of people into techwear, i.e. sci-fi nerds who grew up thinking about cyberspace.
That being said most people I know that mix Acronym and cav empt have been doing so for years, and have only just now become more visible because of the acronymjutsu account and the #acrnm tag being super hot these days.
Literally just said its not a techwear brand ya fuckin newb.
Hyper-practical shit made with synthetic fabrics.
I probably should have put the word "streetwear" in the op. Didnt mean to imply that they are techwear.
I love the aesthetic, its just kind of interesting that people have been actively against the brands usage in the #acrnym styles.
Also i have some shit to do right now so scans will be later.
Also Also let me Shill my upcoming EP
>AT couldnt even afford his own pieces
What does that mean? The production costs is too high or what?
>Guerilla Group from SS14
These pants are hideous. I feel bad for anyone who fell into GG meme.
>adoption of Cav Empt as the go to brand for internet techninjas
Shit's weak. Not because CE is bad, they actually have great visual style thanks to sk8thing,but because they 'invented' sort of dress code for techwear and now every fuccboi trying to be that mysterious techninja on ig. Basically they fucked acronym's brand image and Erlsn helped them when he started working on ACG aka worst shit ever.
> looks much more easy to the eyes of regular people than SISP
acrnm has the style and the function, cav empt has just the style. At least for me, techwear defines itself mostly by its functionality, thus cav empt is by no means tech. Other people however may just go for the cybergoth/sharpHackerDewd look and it may work for them.
#acrnm on ig is full of gems
those nike tech fleece pants only work if you are like under 10% body fat. i tried them when i was a bit over weight and they looked like this dude. so shit. then i dropped weight and got lean and they looked better
baggy joggers or cargos are better for this look if you aren't super lean
What you're talking about? Whole fit is messed up, pants are too big compared to jacket, which is too short in this case. Shoes are off, he is wearing them just because #acrnm.
always hated these acronym bags. way less functional than a backpack.
so there's some facebook group of ancronym dudes posting this autistic shit? why not on superfuture? seems to be a lot of these morons there too
Well most of these kids' hobby is "fashion"
And they're stuck in the mentality that you dress a certain way if you want a certain lifestyle eg "dress jock, dress preppy, dress punk"
So they think that in order to represent their hobby they need a few key meme pieces and to look over the top and ridiculous to telegraph that they're "into clothes"
It's the same thing with the Rick Owens sneaker fad its a sense of belonging
I'm curious why you hate them. I was in the same camp until I got a 3A-1 and it flipped my opinion completely.
What stands out the most about CE is the branding and with the popularity of streetwear, people are used to shit with logos and brand names. SISP is styled very aggresively and people aint used to that.
SISP is pretty tame though. Most people wouldn't think twice about it if you passed them in the street.
The only real reason I could see is that they are just heavily modified heavily up charged Bagjack Bags
That and the proliferation through the whole scene making it seem like there's only one option for a tech wear messenger
Fun fact: If you email bagjack you can get an almost 1 to 1 remake of a 3a-5ts for around 380$
I mean, you could make the same exact argument for a lot of shit, shoes especially (see: any adidas x collab).
Plus I'm not super familiar with bagjack, but can you get limonta or x-pac?
>Fun fact: If you email bagjack you can get an almost 1 to 1 remake of a 3a-5ts for around 380$
>I don't know off hand but probably
If it doesn't have the material it's nowhere near 1 to 1, and if you don't know off the top of your head how do you make the first claim?
>Super Modern Wardrobe
B-b-but s-senpai, you promised...
you can get the real ones for like 100 bucks
issey miyake windcoats predate the final home ones by about a decade and the final home designer used to work for issey miyake before launching his own label
chill, don't let an icelandic lawn gnome painting forum stress you out
I got a couple coming rn, i have work in 10min so ill try to get a couple more done by then.
Interestingly there is a whole chapter practically dedicated to Maharishi's various camo designs
>way less functional than a backpack
It depends. I find 5TS and 6TS too big and uncomfortable for carrying heavy things compared to backpack. But if you need smaller one to carry iPad, keys, wallet, bottle of water and such then 3TS or -1 are great ones. I sold my 5TS due that reason when i found Bagjack x Shadow, this shit is next level compared to Acronym.
You can't even compare CE to SISP, they're from different worlds. SISP is styled way better and more acceptable than CE. SISP is next level clothing that doesn't scream 'look at me', CE on the other hand heavily depends on graphics and bold colors.
5TS is modified bagjack messenger in the first place, they're almost identical, except: olive straps, materials, spanish quick releases and webbing. Thats pretty much it. Both are shitty messengers for cycling.
Dude what the fuck. Those are all black Y3 Qasa's
You need to contact his office and order them personally. Some pieces are floating around though, guy from SUFU bought those pants from op-pic recently.
>pants from op-pic recently
Messed up, he bought different pants, pic related (~900USD)
Yes, you need to fix bag position constantly while riding, which is annoying as hell. Not that bad as Visvim Ballistic E-Cat though, but not good as generic cycling messenger bag or regular backpack.
Do you know the Mission Workshop messengers?
How do they compare to Acrnm and Bagjack X SISP?
grail poncho, 100 buckaroos though
I don't like the brand personally, but judging from the photos, messengers are way more suitable for cycling.
>Acrnm and Bagjack X SISP
They have identical strap systems, so they both suck. However, bagjack x shadow is smaller than 5ts and more advanced from design standpoint, it was my grail basically.
I have handled a MW Monty (small messenger) for some days and am waiting for my Rommy to arrive. It is incredible comfy to carry, even with higher loads, and the strap system with the big metal thingies is simply genius. It looks sufficiently techy, but not spaced out
should I cop this Rains anorak
That's weird, it says both 100% waterproof, and water-resistant...unless they mean the -seams- are 100% waterproof.
Either way, what's the point of a poncho that's not waterproof? Breathability is never an issue with ponchos, so it might as well be waterproof.
> 100% waterproof fully-taped seams throughout
> Main Material: Water-resistant breathable softshell
Water-resistant material isn't the same as waterproof, the low reviews say if you're in the rain for more than an hour you're wearing a soggy blanket. Oh well, I guess /fa/ wears mostly for aesthetics anyways
Arc'teryx Veilance is so fucking beautiful. They got the hyper minimalism with a heavy utilitarian focus look down to a science. People living in a perfect, utopic future will look straight out of an Arc'teryx Veilance editorial. Its techwear fashion in its purest form. There's no ambitions of looking like a cyberpunk hacker, just the perfect harmony between functionality and fashion.
Thoughts on Nike tech wear, specifically these new tapered pants?
>Techwear is simply just technical clothing mixed with fashion
which translates to
>i have no idea of what i'm talking about and only started browsing here in 2015
the 'tech' in techwear has, until recently, always meant technological, it wasn't until anorak wearing chucklefaggots like you started ruining techwear that it changed from what was essentially rainproof avant-garde to sadboys esque garbage
lmao veilance is good? it's oveprriced meme shit
just because you can't afford acronym doesn't mean it is shit. it's just a different aesthetic. but rest assured acronym is multiple tiers above veilance in both technical functionality and aesthetic
>muh minimalism, lets just take arxteryx shit and put it in all black and removall all the detailing
lmao you're lost son
What the hell does Veilance have to do with sadboys? Techwear has always been an extremely broad term, and the only people I've ever seen try to narrow it down to "looks like Acronym" is idiots on /fa/.
I feel like only skinny people can pull off these tapered sweats. Or haven clothespins the pants in their pictures. Look at this guy...shit looks wack on anyone with the slightest outward hip curves.
Not sure if this is techwear but I bought on a limb and wanted to see if any of you knew what the hell would look good with this pants wise
At one point i owned 6 Acronym jackets at once and I have to say that Veilance is pure techwear and Acronym isn't 'more' technical, Veilance patterns are bit better since they have a lot more experience with their main line. I still love Acronym, but that doesn't mean that Veilance is
>oveprriced meme shit
Acronym became meme after ACG and Nike collaborations, thats for sure. 95% of people who wear Veilance doesn't look like cyberpunk-gater-on-ma-face meme faggots aka picrelated.
>not memed dressed by the internet shit
k bro. acronym is the PINNACLE of techwear. always has been. always will be. it will never be topped and all brands like veilance can try their best to immitate them but they will NEVER come even close
stay jealous i guess ;)
>arc'teryx veilance is waterproof sadboys stuff
Yeah, I'm the one who just started following fashion. Yung Lean and his gang dress in a nostalgic 90s fashion way and not in anyway that looks like a Veilance editorial.
>techwear is rainproof avant-garde
Again, techwear isn't rainproof avant-garde (I hope you used that word ironically) but simply technical garments mixed with fashion. Stop holding down the subgenre into your own narrow definition of it.
Veilance, again, looks straight out of one's vision of a utopic future and it doesn't scream this idea, only doing it subtly and with an extreme degree of precision unlike Acronym which screams "look at me I'm a cyberpunk hacker ninja" and that screaming is met with people lacking any sort of depth at all enjoying the clothing brand.
Have you owned or touched either jackets? Acronym always felt a lot more flimsy to my hand than Veilance especially in the zippers. The popularity of Veilance is techwear people wanting an alternative to the Acronym.
Plus Veilance isn't all black without Arc'teryx branding. You're clearly clueless here. They make many pieces with color unlike Acronym which is just the same colors all the time and the pieces have a major step up in quality and feel compared to their mainline.
Also, how is Acronym "multiple tiers above" Veilance? If we're taking about pure functionality and utility, which one has the needless amounts of pockets/zips between the two? Which one has a history and heritage as a huge outdoors brand (allowing for more r&d)? Which one is tacked on with features that try and help the user but only really hold them back?
Why shouldn't the Veilance bandwagon be pushed? Should techwear just be the same #acrnm bullshit all the time? Look at that hashtag to see how people have destroyed the brand by making the shittiest possible fits with the most money.
Please explain how, in any way/shape/form, is Acronym the pinnacle of techwear.
you've been drinking the koolaid
there is no hope for you if you can't see it
i own 3 Veilance pieces myself. Quality is TNF-tier (not bad at all but not top quality by any stretch)
at the prices they charge for what is just stripped down black polyester knock offs of their mainline gear, it should be top of the line
but it is sadly not
Veilance is the Lexus of the techwear world. They are trying to disguise a Toyota as a luxury car by putting the right look, but underneath it is still a run of the mill grocery getter
Acronym is a ferrari. all performance and prestige the whole way
What the fuck you're talking about? Techwear is clothing for urban environment that have outdoor properties. Veilance is way more suited for that, thats definition of techwear. (Current) Acronym is more avant-garde and thats why i like it more.
>they will NEVER come even close
Both brands use pretty much same top tier fabrics or do you think that gravity pocket, escape zips or slings are next level shit? Or clothes from Epic that look like shit after 12 months of use?
>stay jealous i guess ;)
Jealous of what? My wardrobe is literally 70% Acronym, or i should be jealous that i'm not trying to look like cyberpunk memeboi from the dystopian future?
You sound like faggot who discovered ACR few months ago and bought used jacket from grailed. I'm trying to be objective without entering brainwashed fanboy territory. I love Acronym and always will, but that doesn't mean that Veilance is
>oveprriced meme shit
And i currently don't even own any of Veilance jackets and not planning to buy one.
I own a few pieces of Veilance and only ever handled Acrnm before in store, but I don't consider Veilance to be on Acrnm's level either. I think Veilance's performance has been way over blown by a select few on Superfuture such as Inksurgent and Ignosity who don't really know what they are talking about. As Superfuture is now dead and techwear as a movement has expanded throughout the net, this meme has somehow still survived. But as more and more people experience Veilance the more obvious it becomes how lacking it really is.
I own plenty from both brands and find the quality to be about the same. The only real difference is that Arcteryx will replace your stuff for free if it breaks or wears out before it should.
You should check out Devoa, it's not techwear really but if you think Veilance did utilitarian minimalistic look well you haven't seen shit yet.
It's like futuristic Nazis: The brand
Dude, where's all the hate coming from?
Veilance is objectively not NTF-tier, even arc'teryx lifestyle is clearly above NTF.
I agree it is overpriced. But the rest of your statement is oblivious rambling. Get yourself a coffee and a croissant (or local equivalent) and come the fuck down.
Veilance and Acronym follow so completely different visions, their design decisions are almost contradictory. Acronym gives you get-your-shit-done-no-matter-what utilitarian performance. If for you techwear is utilitarian performance, Acrnm is the shit.
Veilance strives for the clean, utopian lifestyle. Few of their pieces are even meant to be waterproof. But they still use unique cuts, fabrics and high tech production techniques to give their pieces specific properties. That does not mean it's all conditions gear. It isn't. It is not meant to be.
Just get it into your fucking head that fashion is not one-dimensional and techwear is just an umbrella term. Some even consider Miyake techwear.
>muh feels, hidden beneath my hardshell cyber punk ninja hacker exterior
reminder that even errolson doesn't want acronym to be labeled techwear. acronym's great, but saying it's the pinnacle techwear brand is fucking stupid (and this is coming from someone with several acr pieces)
errolson is a god
veilance is uninspired shit
to the dude keeps calling it "utopia" you realize its just the same arcteryx base and they remove the detailing right? uninspired rip off and you dumb ass just keepeating it up!
What state are you in, where did you get it? Been eyeing one for months, hope you didn't nab it.
Anyone who has experience with Acronym jackets, care to enlighten me about the fit on their jackets? I'm 6ft 4" and just ordered GT-J27 in XL since I mostly wear XL on other clothing because I have really broad shoulders and have hard time fitting in the ones sized L. The slimmer silhouette ones, such as Arcteryx' active fit ones tend to be pretty good on me despite still being a bit loose on the waist.
>>Will Acronym's size XL jacket on a 6ft 4" guy with 33" waist look like a trash bag?
Get off Errolson's dick. If you can't recognize the great design in Veilance then I don't know how we can proceed with this argument. Techwear isn't what you want it to mean but what others want it to mean. Calling something that's waterproof techwear is just going about it wrong. Its all about the TECHNOLOGY that went behind the process, hence techwear.
This. I'm that Miyake guy.
IIRC they have measurements online. Use those.
>What the hell does Veilance have to do with sadboys?
neo-tech essentially just looks like sadboys.
a single rainproof piece, usually a jacket, paired with a shitton of pieces that have nothing tech-y about them
>Techwear has always been an extremely broad term
>the only people I've ever seen try to narrow it down to "looks like Acronym" is idiots on /fa/
which translates to
>i have no idea of what i'm talking about and only started browsing here in 2015
> Yung Lean and his gang dress in a nostalgic 90s fashion way and not in anyway that looks like a Veilance editorial
faggot not once did i mention veilance, i've been talking about the neo-tech bullshit that's been popular here in the past couple of years
and my point with sadboys is that neo-tech fits and sadboys fits are literally the exact same, usually a rainproof anorak with ill fitting pants and autism shoes
>techwear isn't rainproof avant-garde but simply technical garments mixed with fashion
>Stop holding down the subgenre into your own narrow definition of it
>Veilance, again, looks straight out of one's vision of a utopic future and it doesn't scream this idea, only doing it subtly and with an extreme degree of precision unlike Acronym which screams "look at me I'm a cyberpunk hacker ninja" and that screaming is met with people lacking any sort of depth at all enjoying the clothing brand
this translates to
>people that like what i like are smart, people that like what i don't like are stupid dumb poopyheads
not once before this post have i mentioned veilance or acroynm
If you google Yung Lean or Sadboys and check any photo of anyone who says that they dress in a techwear sort of manner, you'd see tremendous differences. Lurk more anon
The definition I gave is as broad of a definition of techwear there is while being discrimatory enough and not just the cyberpunk hacker ninja you circlejerk
Also, I never said that people who like Acronym are dumb and people who like Veilance are smart but simply explained why I prefer one brand over the other. Don't put words in my mouth
Veilance shit kind of reminds me of the way they dress in 'Her'.
If you even consider wearing anything else than Nike end yourself right now!!!!!!!
No seriously, are you an insecure underage or what?
Will look goofy like everything else. Even for tall people it's not easy to pull off
What shoes to wear with Veilance?
I figured Puma X Chalayan, Muro.exe or Native would work, but are there other options? Especially with the last two options I fear poor durability. Also, only the muros can be had in water resistant.
Muro exe are surprisingly water resistant, I was loading up a car in the rain last night and stood in a pretty deep puddle almost up to my ankles. Thought I'd be fucked with the cotton looking material but whatever treatment they did on these worked a treat
I wish Acronym actually made coats like Jensen's.
So this is kid of an odd question but do labels like ACRNM actually make a lot of money? The pieces are pretty damn expensive but the style nor the brand is very mainstream. It's all very boutique.
mission workshop is ran by the guys that started chrome, so basically the godfathers of the modern messenger bag, their bags are probablly the best thing you can get as far as messengers go, but keep in mind that theyre made to be used on a bike where youre hunched down, so the weight is distributed better on your back, another benefit is that theres no straps compressing the areas around your armpits so you wont sweat as much as with a backpack. to summarize it, MW stuff is specialized gear ment to be used by bicicly couriers, whereas acr and bagjack variants seem to be aimed more at the fashion crowd.
disclaimer: i know that bagjack makes stuff for cycling but i havent seen a single messenger use their stuff, not even in germany
The original game was timeless indeed, but the sequel had legitimately amazing costumes. It was refreshing to see a cyberpunk game that didn't just throw trenchcoats on everyone and called it a day.
Like all high-end fashion brands, their costs to make the pieces pale in comparison to the prices they sell them for. Correct me anyone if I'm mistaken, but you see retailers slashing their prices by 50% margins and I'm sure they're still making a decent killing.
This dude's page is a gold mine
Check this tryhard I found on instagram. He also reposted this autismcore outfit on Sufu lmao
That is fucking great how the fuck is this tryhard
Easily one of the better techfits I have seen, the shoes and the UC jacket makes this really interesting
Let's see your fits, you must not be tryhard at all
Fashion brands more or less all make similar profits relatively speaking, Cheap ass brands have cheap as fuck manufacturing costs so they can sell cheap.
Of course if the brand is very popular they usually gradually up the retail costs to find the sweet spot where they are still moving the product with good rates and making the maximum amount of profit.
Acronym probably does make good money but it's all very relative, H&M makes so much fucking more because of the pure volume they move their stuff. Compared to other 'higher fashion' brands I think Acronym is actually on the lower end as it's kind of a niche, relatively new and doesn't have huge name recognition yet at least.
The cargos work wonderfully there.
Seems like another case of 'it's popular so I hate it' with guerrilla group. I think it's nice to see them getting more common, though seeing that grid tee paired with something by Cav Empt in lot of fits is getting kinda ridiculous.
And really there aren't that many higher end brands that do interesting clothing that fits the 'techwear' aesthetic, it's no wonder they are popular.
>seeing that grid tee paired with something by Cav Empt in lot of fits is getting kinda ridiculous
Thats why i called it meme in the first place, same goes for tapered P10 style pants in every fit and most of them look like shit (picrelated). Basically he is ruining his fits using lots of cliches next to really good items.
I've been using my Monty religiously for about a year now anon.
I'm an avid cyclist so the bag is perfect in that aspect.
Furthermore its nigh indestructible and totally weather-proof.
Mine looks like new despite being slid across the road when I took a spill biking or even being puked on from a drunk buddy in a cab.
Everything else is just a less functional imitation.
Eh, not really 'ruining' fits but it does look bit uninspired by now because so many other fits floating around with the same idea. Nothing wrong with that really, it does look good but you don't really get points for originality for it anymore.
Techwear threads are always bad.
>lol this instagram tryhard
>w2c dope shell for under $100
Yes, i have lots of TNF too. I'm based techwear god of 4chin. Now post your wardrobe with timestamp, faggot.
>that ugly ass laminat 3A-1 iteration
>we about to fit battle
You're the one and only techwear god of 4chin. I pass, because i'm scared.
W2C neck gaiter like this one in black? I'm fucking tired of merino wool and just want some of that sweet synthetic meme.
Arc'teryx LEAF Alpha LT
i have a few Icebreaker shirts and some poly-pro for the colder stuff, need to grab some Outlier here sooner than later. i just love jackets so much more.
none fām, thx 4 reminder ;_;
Is it congruent to wear two contrasting brands in one fit?
I just think it might look weird if you have a big nike swoosh on your shoes and then an adidas logo on your pants.
Personally this is why I prefer things without logos.
Well yeah, sure, but only if its super basic, well known shit like Nike v Adidas
If you had something from, say, Stone Island SP and another piece from Gyakusou, it would be fine. Would be tougher with a combo like Fjallraven and Arcteryx, but still doable. Major, major brands though? No chance.
Why would you even buy Adidas pants anyway?
>Why would you even buy Adidas pants anyway?
That was just a random example. Here is a better one:
These Nike pants: http://shop.havenshop.ca/products/tech-fleece-pant-black-2
With some adidas shoes, these for example
What exactly are good, simple techwear trousers/sweats? I've been thinking about getting a pair of the black kith mercer pants as pic related, while not very functional would they be simple enough to pull off a monochrome piece? That and plus want some good cold weather pants so if anyone can point me towards some that'd be greatly appreciated.
Acronym is like the 2D anime waifu of apparel. Looks great on the website, dudes wearing it in real life for the most part might as well be carrying around a Dakimakura and screaming 'I AM AN AUTIST WHO LIVES IN AN IDEALISED FANTASY WORLD' at the top of their lungs.
fuckin weeaboos always wearing $1k shells
>“[We] approached Adam Jensen as if he were a real person and built a coat that would meet his needs to real-world specifications,” Hugh says. “Rather than imagine his coat, we prototyped it and made it. It exists, and if you try it on you'll see that it fits and works beautifully.”
The end result of the collaboration is a jacket that looks interesting and plausible, while fulfilling one of the most basic criteria: A human person would wear it and not immediately feel embarrassed. “Even now, I think the crazier ones that we do are probably more wearable than some of the least crazy ones we did in Human Revolution,” Jacques-Belletete says. “I think we understand what our cyber renaissance is better than we did before, and we also understand fashion design better as well.”
i'm the poster of that, LEAF Alpha LT. it's got wide shoulders, meant to be layered underneath with insulating layers. it's GORETEX and is brilliant at blocking wind and rain, however it's not a very quiet jacket. some swishing as the material rubs against itself.
ran just over $600 for it, it's real low key.
I view Y3 as almost a separate entity from Adidas although historically they were borne under Adidas as their high-end fashion branch. I feel like Y3 comes up with all the innovative designs, only for them to be recycled through Originals and then into their sports goods too.
For example, iirc, the boost sole had been originally used by Y3's products and now have trickled into Adidas' mainline and into the mainstream.
That's why I claimed Adidas "drew inspiration" from their own designer branch.