Considering to move there after uni (german med student) even though I havent been there yet. I will visit LA this summer for some weeks to get my own impression.
I like the vibe and from what I have heard from friends its nice but everybody says that the people are superficial and fake asf.
I am a minimalist and I dont wanna give in to consumerism, will this be a problem?
I think the real goal is finding a group of people you get along with in a city with a good night life. Being alone at club's isn't /fa/ but having a group of friends to regular some clubs and restaurants is.
LA is effay for all reasons mentioned,plus being a hub for underground subculture on every level,If you want to be spoon-fed culture,open up and swallow LA like a fuccboi should
you must not go out much
dtla is being renovated and the fashion/arts district is going to be so nice in the next few years
a lot of streets in the fashion district are already really nice
silverlake is slowly growing away from its hipster scene
>the people are superficial and fake asf
the people who are like this are the transplants
no one FROM LA is like that
also, you don't have to give in to consumerism if you're in a suburb, but you'll be conforming in a suburb a lot
yeah i am not a fan of the suburbs
cost of living in la is definitely high, how much of a difference depends on you, as well as where in LA
lofts in dtla are roughly around 2100/month, i've seen some around 1700/month, but a lot of the 2k+ lofts are priced because they're luxury living and have tons of amenities
you can try and find some places in developing neighborhoods (equivalent to the gentrification going on in new york) such as atwater village and silverlake
west hollywood near The Grove has a lot of apartments that are new or renovated as well, though not only is the cost of living pricey, but the traffic in that area is terrible
just a huge piece of advice, if you move here, get roommates
Thanks for your input.
How about a decent apartment that isnt too big and luxurious in a decent neighborhood?
Here in Germany you can get a nice pre war apartment for 500 to 1000€ in a good neighborhood.
Is traffic really that bad? Have read this numerous times. Dont wanna spend 2 hrs daily to drive to work.
1000 € is almost 1100 usd, which won't even get you a bad apartment in a suburb
now, on that budget, you could get a 3 bedroom with roommates and each pay under 900 in some areas
traffic really is that bad
i go to school in the middle of dtla and get out of class at 6, when everyone is getting off of work
a 30 minute drive home turns into almost an hour and a half
if you live or work somewhere that requires the 405, 2 hours is possible
How are you moving there straight out of uni?
I'm a Brit that is bored of my shitty country and I want to live in the U.S, but from everything I've read it's just really difficult for Europeans.
The criteria to get in just seems to be
>have U.S. relatives
>be an expert in your field
>be an Indian software dev
>be a unskilled Mexican
Just let me in you cunts. Pls.
Havent spend much time researching this but there are many ways. It really is hard tho.
Probably just gonna marry some sloot or win the greencard lottery. After uni I will continue studying in the US for my specialization, so I will have a student visa first.
I was just in LA and I found that fashion wise the people are very aware. Saw some of the most daring fashion statements I've ever seen. And now that I'm back home, everyone dresses like tards.
I'm an Amerkan med student and you can't be a doctor in USofgAy unless you do residency here.
So unless you applied and got accepted to a residency programme in LA, you couldn't continue your current career here in The States of America United.
Why the hell would you move to LA from Germany? Especially if you care about /fa/ and the future. Unless you're going for a specific something just stay in Berlin and enjoy things America can't
don't get me wrong you can find some of what you're looking for in certain parts of LA but people here would kill to move to a better place like Germany (even with it's issues)
I dont like Berlin and Hamburg, Munich is expensive and also not my thing.
Id rather move to Frankfurt.
Its rich in nature mostly :^). The other I cant say but it seems that I get enough of that in LA.
Idk, it isnt really rational, I just wanna live. Germany is boring to me, I need a change asap. A 2 week vacation wont do it.
No no no no no, unless you live by the la brea art strip, downtown, or several pasrts of K-town or Silverlake this city is not effay. However, what you will find is the entry into a lot of different sub-cultures and scenes if that tickles your fancy and your a social person.
im about to move from austin to dallas/garland.
not that austin is /fa/ at all. a buncha try hard smelly white guilt granola ass mothers but garland is god damn disgusting and everyone there vapes and thinks that being a cashier is an acceptable career path to support them and their high school sweethearts family. all while (still) drinking natty ice.
Wisconsin also reporting in, you're all weak, weak people who don't deserve to share this corner of the nation with me.
It hit forty today and I almost shed a tear, watching the snow melt and turn brown with mud was like watching a good friend die and rot.
Maybe one day you'll learn, but for now don't blaspheme my state.
Gotta agree. LA is awful. Lived in New York for nine years prior and that ruled but, ultimately, got too expensive. Traffic is terrible, people are incredibly vapid, the majority of people don't care to dress in any interesting way (cargo shorts and flip flops are sacred here).
There's a lot of cool stuff to do and see, the weather's nice if that's a big thing for you, the amount and quality of ethnic foods is incredible, you're closeby to hiking or surfing or skiing BUT to take advantage of all these things you have to chain yourself to your car or spend a shitload on Uber/Lyft/etc. The public transpo system is absolute garbage. Also, going out is a pain in the ass, especially if you don't live in a neighborhood with a solid scene. You're either limiting what you do so you can drive home safely or racking up costs on top of the already exorbitant prices for liquor.
And to keep it /fa/ related, let's say you want to check out some cool spots. You could go up and down La Brea but then you gotta hop in your car for half an hour if traffic's bad to travel four miles to Silver Lake, pay extra for parking, etc. etc. whereas in a city with solid public transportation, you could just hop on the train, better yourself by reading or drawing or doing whatever, and be where you gotta be in 10 minutes.
When you factor in car, gas, insurance, the cost of living is pretty much comparable to any other high priced city.
I hate this place.
As David Bowie once said: "The fucking place should be wiped off the face of the earth".
there are plenty of those fa, it's just that you have to find them. compared to other cities, there are more that are close to being fa, rather than other cities, where everyone is nowhere near to being fa and is basic af.
In other words, the majority of people you meet are not going to be fa, just like many other cities, but if you have a normal social life, it would be impossible for you to NOT meet a good amount of people that are fa, and it would happen more often then other cities. Also depending on how you roll with them, you could end up meeting more and more through association.
if you just want a fashionable big city you're better going to whatever city in which your nation's (or a different nation's if you so choose) seat of power is primarily located
places like London or Washington D.C will be naturally full of single, career-minded, health conscious, young professionals
Jesus Christ it's a city. Asking if a city is /fa/ enough to move there is retarded. I'm sure it's not like what you make it out to be in your head, no place ever is. It's dirty as fuck. The weed stores and beautiful sunsets are cool tho.
I forgot to say that clubs and bars are only open till 2 am. It is not allowed to drink on the street. Generally a lot of stupid rules.
I would recommend San Francisco, the people are more open minded there and the city is really beautiful.
I'm the only on who regularly posts on /fa/ from SoCal...eh.
LA. County has some nice areas but there are more underlying problems with the city that significantly outweigh the benefits of living in the county.
If you really want to live in California, is suggest sillicon beach since not too many foreigners and out of state plebs know about it.
San Diego also has more mid century modern Relics standing LA tends to get rid of them and has more of an industrial vibe to it...or industrial at one point the. Retro fit into store fronts and bars
>saying life is difficult in LA
holy god SF is way harder. god help you if you have a car. god help you if you don't have a trust fund.
SF is brilliant for tourism but LA is far more livable.
But you do know everything about Europe? The grass is always greener on the other side. I think it's exciting to move to a city like L.A. if you come from some small city in Germany.
Also, 1000€ doesn't get you shit in Munich, Hamburg or Frankurt if you want to live in the center.
You sound like a kid, how will you manage to go live in another country? Wake up, kid. Choose a good profession and get a degree. Then you can think about moving to another country.
niggas really hating on LA wtf?
Everything bout LA was designer when i visited ~3 weeks ago
designer bitches. 10's in jersey are like 8's in la cuz the girls enjoy that temperate climate and shit all year round so they got that skin
designer food... i ate like a king
beautiful weather... seriously
LA was lit F A M. dont believe da hate in dis thread. prolly a bunch of broke boys that hate cuz they aint
>considers his opinion equal to those of human beings
If you lived in real cultured parts of the world you'd understand why LA falls short, eat shit for a year and the shittiest sandwich in the world looks good to you.
Born and raised in the Hancock Park/Miracle Mile area of LA. Currently go to school in the Bay Area and am moving back to LA immediately after graduation. It has everything an /fa/ person would want.
I live in Culver City and I can confirm most of these points.
LA can be nice, but only if you do some research and cherry pick where you're going to live. And by research I don't mean "look up some inexpensive places in Craigslist." You better be on foot near the neighborhood scoping out the surrounding area. Apartments/rooms can vary heavily between hit or miss even within the same block.
You *want* to be within walking distance of amenities if you don't want to spend a huge chunk of your money on gas spent idling in the traffic. Try to schedule your errands in sync with bus schedule if at all possible. If you have to jaywalk to get to your destination, do it. Crosswalks are placed too irrationally to be of any use at all.
There WILL be places you can't get to via mass transit, so owning a car is a necessity. Do your grocery shopping in bulk, and leave ~20 minutes early if you're commuting by car.
In all honesty, it's a nice place to visit but terrible place to live. It's got all the cons of a large city minus the pros. Don't let the city density fool you into thinking that it'll be pedestrian-friendly, because it's not.
Nothing I love more than triggering LA losers.
Why is OC so much better than LA?
>Better public transportation
>Lack of poor people
>People dress much better
>Huge indie scene
>No black people
>Low violent crime
Pretty much what God intended LA to be.
The only reason that you all are hating is because LA is harder than any other city you've been to. It's far more difficult to actually see what's here. But it's here. Its not like fucking NY where everything is so fucking in your face and obvious or SF, so fucking surface. I will never tell you where I live. It's perfect here and you'll never find me.
true but it's a short drive
>Better public transportation
>Lack of poor people
>People dress much better
>Huge indie scene
OC produces awful music. not even remotely comparable in artistic output.
>No black people
>Low violent crime
because it's spread out suburbia
if you dont like consumerism, dont move to america. period.
In most of the US, life and infrastructure is built around personal consumption. To get around in most places you NEED a car. This is very much the case in all of southern california. Everything is built AROUND the automobile, which creates an illusion of freedom, when really.. most people are indentured by their car. Having to drive everywhere also separates people from each other psychologically which i find creates this careless attitude about the environment. When you are in your car, you feel separated from what's outside and it destroys the concept of community since you dont actually see anyone else when you commute... and you dont care if 3 miles away there is garbage in the streets where junkies lay retching and gang violence is the norm.
In america, we have our own sports, measuring system, entertainment which makes most people forget about the outside world.
The landscape is comprised drive-thrus, strip malls, and other centralized shopping districts which themselves are surrounded by miles upon miles of low-rise single family homes. As you move through it you will find advertisements are put into every nook and cranny imaginable.
LA is chill, and there are a lot of chill people, but is is basically the epicenter of everything you stand against.
America is a complete dystopia in my opinion and I plan on moving to europe
I lived in germany for 2 years and was amazed how much more socially conscious people were. If 10% of the shit that's legal for businesses to do in the US was made legal in germany, people would take to the streets and demand change... Here in america, we're to busy trying for fuck each other and the world over for personal gain to give a shit.
Beautifully said. At the end of the day, we all know our mass consumption led lives are empty and meaningless. Its interpersonal relationships that make life slightly more fulfilling. I've lived in LA all my life and get the feeling that most people are just constantly trying to one up each other, showing off their status, whether that be expensive clothes, cars, or houses. Its a vapid place.
dude, frankfurt is so terrible.
It's just this financial hub with a few shitty skyscrapers which, since theyre the only ones of their kind in germany SEEM impressive to look at.
frankfurt is just not cool, my broski.
Berlin is the obvious choice, leaving hamburg the best city in germany (my opinion)
The history of hamburg is fascinating and you should see speicherstadt... such a cool place.
yeah, it seems pretty toxic. everyone I know has nothing but bad things to say about touring there, the only have decent stories I've heard are from Burgerama but even then those shithead kids are so far up their asses that they wouldn't move and seemed to only be there to look cool.
like man it just ain't a good place, I'm dreading the possibilty of a west coast tour this fall because it would almost definitely entail multiple LA dates
>The LAcuck is enraged by the truth.
>Because of his anger he hides it from himself
lived in LA all my life but just moved to Paris for uni: kinda like paris tho- think its gonna be cool and great and beautiful abut doesnt quite live up to hype
good things:ton of dif cultures. good food. relatively close to nature(hiking and camping). mtns are always beautiful. beach. good unis. nightlife. soon to be gentrified neighborhood would be good investment. music sceen.good weather(never humid:)). place is huge so lots of options. if you are foreign ppl automatically love you. SLP vibes. turning right on red
bad: smog, hot as balls in summer. traffic nightmare. no public trans. liberal lunies everywhere. expensive housing in many places. ppl who think they are the shit. orange county
if i moved back i would look at highland park, eagle rock, atwater village, glendale, glassell park, los feliz, lil tokyo/china town, long beach. in general the further to the 405 the cooler but more of an over all bitch to live in
Burger and Lollipop are fucking garbage. There are some really cool bands and artists in LA but this terrible garage/surf/psych shit just won't die. It's cancer.
>The LAcuck in his wild habitat of bougie self-entitlement and false sense of superiority
OC> SD > LA
Oceanside resident. I've lived in all three.
SD has its own challenges. Phoenix is closer to LA in attitude than SD is and its not even in the same state
la teen reporting in, the burger records scene is probably the most fucking annoying shit ive ever to encounter. i have a lot of friends into that shit and theyre so fucking snotty and annoying about burger bands, burgerama etc
The darker red the more fasionable. Less red = Mexican cowboy and cholo tier
Repubs in OC are millionaires or billionaires. No rednecks here.
>I live in Culver City
no way I live culver city also! right by the downtown area and honestly I love it here
The nature is very important for me, I wanna be able to go to the beach without having to wait a whole year for my vacation.
I will visit a friend in hamburg soon, but I doubt I will ever move there. :^)