>started watching "Dior and I"
>8 minutes in there is a conversation about how Raf will make "modern Dior"
>looks like an awkward conversation
>I feel like Raf doesn't fit at all for Dior, doesn't even speak French
>I am actually really surpised they made him creative director
>decide to check out his latest collection before I go on watching the documentary
>"Raf left Dior in 2015"
What happened /fa/?
He couldn't keep up with the tempo in which the collections had to be produced. I personally tought he was really fit for it. Dior sales rised a lot during his time as a creative director so raf made the decision to stop for himself
I think Raf is a very talented designer but just not for Dior IMO. His Haute couture designs looked incredibly boring and hardly nostalgic. It's great that he knew where to boost his market sales towards, but the ultra modern chic style just doesn't look like it fits well for Dior. His womens-wear ready to wear lines looked more like Fendi. Nothing looked that original.
Here are the couture shows along with the designs that have changed over the years from the previous designers starting from Marc Bohan, Gianfranco Ferré, Johan Galliano, Raf Simons and this week.
Galliano was too much theatrics and as you said he was nostalgia
while Raf felt much more french and Dior but always with slight modern additions
he actually brought Dior somewhere whilest Galliano just used the house to do what he always does
You make it sound like the theatrics were overplayed. Galliano was pushing the boundaries of couture beyond that any designer had done in awhile and he DID bring Dior somewhere.
Couture was never meant to be theatric and whilest I like the way he pushed silhouette his were in msot cases unwearable
Raf pushed boundaries on fabrics while keeping it the essence
I really hope not KvA is doing everything Dior Homme should be and never would I see Hedi do Dior womens in a decent way
Think Hedi going to Chanel would be a more reasonable transfer
>Couture was never meant to be theatric. Most cases were unwearable
Then you obviously don't know that all haute couture pieces that are presented are ever worn. They're made to measure for specific clients according to their measurments where it becomes a wearable piece of art. Also Raf had zero background behind the ideas of designing couture.
>Raf pushed boundaries on fabrics while keeping it the essence
Raf rarely pushed any boundaries at all. Face it. His idea for ultra modern chic for the house of Dior are completely boring.
Of course I know they're rarely worn you idiot I just said that, and I know they're not JUST a piece of art. I can't tell if you're a shit poster or an idiot because you sound like a complete moron.
What makes you sure that Hedi would be a good fit for Chanel? He 't renamed Yves Saint Laurent to Saint Laurent Paris and never stayed true to the meanings and ideas behind YSL. How do you know Karl Lagerfeld thinks he would be a good fit?
Hedi and Haider are the only people Karl has explicitly stated as his favourite follow ups also Karl only wears Hedi suits
Also Chanel is pretty much more open to change because Coco hasnt been there very long and Karls Chanel was pretty much without a soul and focused on selling as saint laurent was already
Dior Spring Summer 2011 was my favorite couture show. The work they put into this piece is just amazing. <3
Hedi did not rename the brand, he went back to the original RTW name. YSL is supposed to be the atelier name, the name for the Haute Couture. Saint Laurent is supposed to be the Pret a Porter name.
chanel doesn't stand for anything anymore
people get so worked up over what hedi did to YSL, but before him, no one really cared for YSL and what they were doing. now it all flies off the racks and sells tons
Chanel still stands for chic elegance and comfort. Karl just reinvents the look to cater to the market, it's meaning is still there.
That's true about YSL though. Yves hated what was happening and wanted the whole thing shut down but he couldn't do anything about it. His name is just circle jerked around to sell off to skellies now. Feels bad.
What else was it about? I honestly think it's time haute couture finally dies though but I just think it's sad to lose an art form like this. Anyways that's just how fashion goes.
Let's be honest here, Raf was a goat mens designer, but his Dior HC sucks ass. Galliano is a goofy motherfucker, but his HC for Dior is spot-on.
Different people are just good for different branches. Either way, I hope Raf goes back to mens, and Dior finds another Galliano.
Galliano for MMM rtw is a bad fit too.
I just finished watching this 50 minute video of one bloody couture dress being made
so excessive and time consuming for something that's no one will end up buying, can't believe it's still being done
Yep. It's a work of art in it's own purist form. All made from hand (with a few exceptions) by expert ateliers but are only bought by the wealthiest patrons. That's what makes haute couture supposedly unique is because of the exclusivity and hard work made into these pieces.
I found a somewhat relative article.
I've got insider info that Hedi is indeed leaving Saint Laurent.
Also insider info but this is more of a rumor, apparently Karl and Hedi have been in talks of a Chanel Homme line designed by Hedi. They've always been close and recently did a shoot with / for each other on a V Magazine feature, could be really interesting.