Do you miss the alternative subcultures like goth and emo
imo, emo and goth styles can both look good if they are done right. theres no definitive right way to do it, basically just know basic dos and donts of style and dont go full retard with your shit
inspo thread? or style check thread, my tastes are still maturing.
they both started gaining traction in the 80s, but emo was waaayyy different then. it was basically emotional punk (as opposed to political), then transformed into a kind of nerdy-cute ("grandpa's sweater vests") sappy/angsty music style, then suddenly bred with scene and goth to give birth to the emo we know today.
if it seemed to come out of nowhere, you were just not watching carefully.
pic related, 2nd wave emo, after punk and before MySpace
Wow that's actually really interesting ! Never got into the emo scene even in my baby goth days, but I only ever saw it as that weird scene/goth/cyberpunk ish kind of mix for teenagers that was only loosely connected to emocore.
>Do you miss the alternative subcultures like goth and emo
I walked into a Hot Topic with a bunch of friends recently and was basically screaming on the inside the entire time.
But girls in goth shit can be fucking hot.
memekids (vape, s a d, tech)
roadmen (nu-chav, grime etc...)
#LADs (straya and brit fratboys)
prep (2013 hipster dropouts an "real men")
2nd gen fuccbois and late hypebeasts (or "cuccbois", catching-on very very late on trends like skinny jeans x long shirts x hy haircut...)
skater/hip hop/stoner (been around for a few decades, just changed a little over time but very little)
yeezy fans (worst of all)
mid-2000s emos and goths were millenials though, it's a 20-year generation.
Gen Xers made goth what it is in the 90s, older millenials made emo what it is in the 00s, and newer millenials don't care about subcultures.
angst is ironic rather than sincere among kids now, so pastel goth/soft grunge lets them express it a bit without deviating too far from the norm.
social media brings a lot of pressure to conform, highschool subcultures are dead.
>I walked into a Hot Topic with a bunch of friends recently and was basically screaming on the inside the entire time.
Hot Topic now is more about pop culture and Comic-Con shit than anything alternative, pic related. (a somewhat recent comparison of old versus new Hot Topic.)
will post some fits i like. if you like goth/altfash let me know what you think.
its mostly about the hair make up if you askme, the clothes are pretty much secondary.
theyre still around
skinny, but not tight, jeans
Taking Back Sunday
Jimmy Eat World
At The Drive-In
and then it suddenly got super dark, gloomy, and fucking retarded.
black everything, stupid piercing all over the place, sharpie markers around the eyes and on fingernails, neon highlights in hair...
how pale are you naturally? if you are already pale, i have had success using a light liquid foundation from a drugstore brand, then apply Manic Panic vampire white powder oved it with a kabuki brush. you then need to contour a bit to bring back facial definition, i use grey/brown eyeshadow to bring my cheekbones, nose, and jaw back. white flattens you so it is important to put shadows back on your face.
this does not give me a cakey-white clown look, just a very pale look. gotta blend up your ears/down your neck also.
do i miss them?
american foosball, sdre, tbla list goeson
lol I remember it took me 3 long explenations from 3 different emo kids i had on friends list in myspace, for me to understand what emo was.
They never cared about actually explaining it with their own words, they just linked me to their favorite music bands and their music.
I remember this style from late 90s movies and TV, but I don't think I ever saw it irl. Then again I grew up in a small midwestern town and was probably 5-10 years too young to get first hand experience in college. Had no idea this had any connection to the emo I remember though.
the look became kinda mainstream, and hipsters grabbed a lot of the aesthetic as well. that pic is from about 2003 (misattributed to 1999 sometimes) issue of a mainstream magazine, about the time emo was changing and becoming popular, with its defining look changing pretty rapidly iirc.
*good not goid
have a modern emo as apology
well im white but my face has a bit of a redish tone on it so not so pale. It sounds like you really know your stuff but unfortunately I have no idea what most of these things your saying mean! how did you learn to do your make up? Ive tried myself and wasted alot of money!! and yeah I got the cakey/mime look. Is it all about the kabuki brush because I dont have one of them.
Got any video tutorials you can recommend please?
>my face has a bit of a redish tone on it so not so pale.
try ELF's green primer. it looks weird in the bottle but goes on clear, the green tint helps cancel redness. it is also cheap as fuck but decent quality, like most ELF products.
>how did you learn to do your make up?
/cgl/ desu. i read the makeup, goth, and shironuri threads. jfash aesthetics are different from effay aesthetics but makeup basics are the same, and basic techniques are not any different for men than for women. (if you seek help there and are male, do not announce your gender, they are salty about male newfags.)
>Is it all about the kabuki brush because I dont have one of them.
for me, it is about good skincare (for a smooth, healthy base), primer, liquid foundation, and then using the big kabuki brush to pat the powder in (pat it, not brush it). i also use a sealer spray (ELF mineral spray) after foundation and before and after powder so it stays in place.
i do not know of any good youtube tutorials at this tim, have http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1hRdbZOtrWU bookmarked but did not watch it yet.
sorry anon, i fail at online socializing. no skype or other chat account, i am a loner flake.
I miss the British indie/britpop revival 2007-2009. No britpop club nights in my city anymore and people arguably dress like shit in comparison to it.
so that turned out to be for eye makeup.
for the white look, i did not like his white skin video that much, but he has a good male goth contouring video: https://youtu.be/i36p07NNUrg
i use pic related over a light foundation for a pale effect, but the best tips for pale skin are really about skincare. avoid sun damage, exfoliate once a week, and moisturize a bit before applying sunscreen. a lot of my own cakiness was caused by dry skin, and getting good at skincare gave me a smoother canvas to work with.
i am staying away from liquid whites like Ben Nye or Mehron until i get good enough at what i do to go more dramatic.
Not that guy, but you're all wrong! real emo is stuff like Ampere, Yosuke, I Hate Myself. The few of you that were less wrong all listed fake emo/wiener rock/twinkle daddy stuff. But really, it doesn't matter.
This article is mostly, if not completely incorrect if we're discussing the genre and it's progression. In fact, pretty much everyone in this thread is wrong if this is what everyone believes.
Goth and emo was the worst shit holy fuck
There would always be some emotional faggot kid who would complain we called him emo or some shit like that back in elementary school. This happened several times to different kids, some whom were even actual fucking emos, and they'd always take it really personally. It was like the genderfluid hipsters of 2007.
Scene kids like OP posted have been in decline since about ~2008 were completely overtaken by the Tr00 pop-punker sometime around 2013.
Jesus, it's like you people never read Stuff You Will Hate (rip)
i still listen to panic! at the disco, and plan on buying the new album. i'm not sorry about it
>tfw got talking to a scene girl in the smoking area of a club
>namedrop that I used to listen to BMTH (didn't mention that I was fucking 11 when I did)
>she starts stroking my beard and drags me back in to dance
>tfw bj in the toilets
It's all good fun but more recently I found out that I have genital herpies, so there's no doubt in my mind where it came from.
>tfw no androgynous gothic waif gf/bf
>tfw not an androgynous gothic waif
become gay or bi
that is bakasoseji, a tumblr/instagram fashion blogger dude
I miss subcultures in general, there's no diversity fashion/music wise where I live, just the same boring people everywhere
the social media age encourages sameyness for popularity points (likes, notes, upvotes). people-pleasing becomes more important than self-expression when it feels like the world is watching.
i think alternative fashion has the power to protest this mindset, but even in alternative scenes (and even on /fa/ which is fucking anonymous), everyone wants to meet everyone else's standards.
i am hoping this changes.
sorry anon. bi life has so many cute options, i hope you find a gf with his aesthetic someday. he always dates cute altfash girls and is prob straight.
how to dress goth and effay without looking like a Rick Owens clone?
Dude i had a 13 year old girl ask me what it was like to grow up in the golden age of music
idk what the fuck the bitch was talking about she listed shit like AFI, nirvana and green day as top ranking bands for her and her friends.....
bitch you know those bands were considered shit when i was your age right?
at least the kids who loved the fuck out of nine inch nails are gone
>90s/early 00s goth
it was very costumey
While someone can be inspired by the motif, and it can be done real well in an editorial setting, it is easily taken into realm of costume wear and doesnt function as a real world aesthetic
>the downward spiral was actually pretty good
this was top-tier NiN imo, it went downhill after The Fragile.
that said, the tour for Hesitation Marks was fucking magical. the album is meh but the show blew my mind. the guy who did art production for TDS also did HM, and the art design of the live show was insane.
i would wear Russell Mills-core if i could.