my friend has makita drill and impact. I have the Milwaukee drill and impact. Twice a year Milwaukee does $100 off when you have a trade in, but the place by my house doesn't require a trade in if you talk to them. They also gave me a free 3 amp battery. My friend is pissed he didn't get Milwaukee, cause mine runs longer and harder.
>>935937 >Milwaukee Eurofag, never saw Milwaukee around here. The drills are pretty much identical, one just has that "drill hammer" mode, which i thought was always pretty useless in comparison, i might be wrong though. Any opinions?
>>935944 Rotary hammer master race reporting in. You're right but I wish I got a cordless hammer drill anyway, if I have to do 1-3 pilot holes its less time than gwettin that tool box out and plugging it in.
>>935944 If you compared the top models from the major companies, the difference between their hammer drill and regular drill is like $10-15. Why not spend that little extra and have the added functionality?
>>935952 That's pretty much what they were made for, the largest hole I'd attempt is 1/4". There are cordless hammer drills that can do up to 1" i.e. HILTI TE6 but unless you do a lot of side jobs you can't justify the $700 price tag. They work awesome for tapcons though.
>>935940 I don't believe that for a second. Either it's a low end makita or they're being used differently.
Also I have used Makita for the last 6 or so years. For the last 12 months I've been using the brushless drills and impact drivers paired with 18v 5ah batteries and I'd buy another tomorrow.
I bought a Bosch as a second drill as it was on offer. Returned the next day.
I'm very sceptical of the Milwaukee tools. Also the mention of a better chuck is moot. The chuck on my makita, that said all the makitas I've had have been faultless.
>>935944 You've never used a 36v hilti hammer drill then. Other than the fact batteries do eventually run out, my TE7A is on a par with any corded in its class.
Just to mention, those who think because a cordless drill has the 'hammer' icon on the gear selector, don't be fooled into thinking its actually hammer action. The higher end drills have it but I've never dreamed of using it. One way ticket to burn out city.
>>936056 >>936043 Pretty much the only use of hammer on cordless drills is for putting in wall plugs and various small holes, no bigger than 6-8mm really. But that is what a lot of people use it for so it's actually pretty good.
>>936056 I'm telling you once again. I put 1/2" holes in concrete for post anchors with my M18 FUEL and it didn't flinch. Actually performed much better than expected as I had only used it for 1/4" tapcons before.
Every tool these days looks like some sort of starship troopers space ship.
With the exception of Fein.
The regular Fein tools look like they are a weight loss version of 1980's tools and even their ergonomic stuff looks non hazardous compared to all the spikes and supercool molding that come off of modern "ergo" tools.
I'm pretty sure that if you're choosing between Makita and Milwaukee, the best choice is just to go with whatever brand you already have batteries for. I've used both lines almost entirely across the board and have absolutely no complaints about either.
I took a plunge and splurged on this kit. I feared I was buying an overpriced Blackanddecker gimmick, but it is brilliant. I have not regretted it. Hammer drill is surprisingly capable, attachments sees a lot of use and I love being able to drive screws without a spinning chuck.
I use pic related for 90% of everything, it's small, it's light, and it's got enough guts to do most things. I'll bust out the impact driver if I have big screws to get in. And I'll use my huge corded hammer drill if I have any heavy duty drilling to do, or if I'm doing lots of holes. But otherwise this is what I use.
>>938924 The only people who buy festool drills are festool fanboys who insist systainers are the be all and end all of modular storage.
There is literally no other reason to want or need to pay out for a festool drill. You'll pay more and get less in comparison to anything else. Literally anything else.
Festool make brilliant innovative tools and are worth everything because they've really monopolised their best products, but their appeal and warrant to spend money literally ends there. Their drills just aren't on a par with others on the professional market.
>>939972 It's got a variable speed trigger. It's perfectly fine to drive screws at any speed, until you stall, just don't ramp up the torque when you are halfway through driving a screw.
It's not going to fuck up your impact driver, but you can more easily slip, or pop out, or otherwise fuck up if you do change speed drastically. So you'll get the best results if you can just drive the screw at a steady pace.
>>936416 >not wanting a starship troopers space ship tool
>>938644 >the lower right thing I'm guessing a high speed rotary tool.
>>939972 >am I actually going to damage the tool? When you drill/drive at a low speed, you're making the motor deliver the needed power at a lower RPM, which means that it draws more amps to do so (or draws heavy amps for a longer time than at a higher RPM). For intermittent use, this shouldn't be a problem, but sustained intense use would cause the motor to overheat more quickly than using full speed to do the same job.
When I drive screws with my impact driver, I usually start at full throttle, then back off right when they get tight, and gently tap them to the desired torque. Following a similar profile would be easier on the motor than doing it all at a slow speed. Just go as fast as you can control.
>>938935 >festool >systainer >sortainer I would literally never buy a thing from this company because their name and naming conventions are linguistically painful to me. >>940099 >>939972 Also, part of why it heats up is that they stick a fan on the drive shaft. If you're going slowly, it's not moving a lot of air, so there's almost no cooling going on while the motor is building more heat than at higher rpm.
>>936043 Years ago I worked at sears and had to learn about who makes what drills and cordless power tools etc. Dewalt was all the rage and every young kid wanted a yellow drill. All the old men bought Milwaukee, Makita and Bosch, maybe a few Hitachi's. A company named T&O makes Craftsman, Skill, Black & Decker, Ryobi, Dewalt and Husky. They had two plants one considered low end and one considered high end. The high end plants made craftsman, Dewalt and Ryobi. While the lower end made Husky, skill and B&D. Dewalt has been a meme for along time, but people still pay out their ass for them.
>>940422 >The voltage doesn't vary so the amperage must. Both change. I=V/R and all that. Resistance also changes depending on the motor's load (a heavier load reduces resistance - an unloaded motor draws little current at full speed). Consider two situations in which a motor is made to supply a given torque to perform a job.
At high speed, a full-voltage power source drives high speed rotation, which gives the motor relatively high resistance, so the current draw is moderate under load, and the energy input is relatively efficiently transformed into useful output.
In a similar motor operating at low speed, the supply voltage has been lowered (resistor connected to variable speed trigger) so there is less overload capacity in delivering the torque demanded. The lower-speed rotation generates less internal resistance, so the current through the motor is higher despite the lower input voltage. This generates extra heat despite the lower amount of useful work being done.
The low-speed motor is operating closer to a stalling condition, where an electric motor draws maximum current.
>>935944 I have the Makita with the hammer, it actually works. I also have a corded monster, but in the end I'm not using that almost at all anymore. Makita does the job in most cases just fine as long as you have the right technique (use both hands and push from behind).
Every tear down video and take apart of fagwaulkee tools especially the new ones Alison awful. AvE shits all over their tooks. Just because it's your favorite autistic red and black colors doesn't make them good tools.
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