Look at this retarded electrical fuck. I was disassembling the

What are you going to do to fix it?

I especially way the way a 4 way junction has that fifth wire sticking out the front...

As for fixing it, OP's got it easy. Tear it out, put a modern proper junction box in, and have a hole with a plate cover. And presto, you're up to code.

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>>650307
Something like >>650308 said.

Anyway, first I was sure that the cable comes from the left, since the switchboard is located there. But..

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>>650319
It doesn't.

>>650319
That's a complete concrete cube. You are so godamn lucky.

Also, freaky, can you trace it through the wall, or is it piles of concrete back there too?

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>>650320
It goes trough the wall and away from the switchboard.

>>650322
what's on the other side? Crawlspace?

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>>650322
It comes trough the wall again here and goes to the corner above. From there it goes with the cables in the previous picture to the switchboard.

But the next picture makes it somehow confusing.

>>650324
so it goes out, out, through a junction, up, and through another hole in the wall...Why. Why do you do this, freaky primitive incompetent electrician of times gone by?

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>>650324
This hole here. It is the same hole as in the first picture in this thread. How fucking easy it would've been for the guy who installed the junction box to take all the cables trough that hole and install the junction box there, since there is no wood panels or anything in there and it would've fitted with no problem.

>>650326
...truly, it's enough to make me wonder about this guys alleged sentience. That is just...so many levels of dumb.

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There's also this - supposedly made by the same guy as the previous things. It's not even in the basement (you know, "it's just a basement, you can do retarded installations there"), it's in a bedroom.

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Also this. HIDE IT INSIDE THE MOLDING THEY SAID.

The cable continues it's epic journey for about two meters until it ends in the next picture.

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>>650329

That's...special.

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Hilarious. Love it OP.

OP is a retard, that wiring job seems like a perfectly acceptable way of committing suicide to me.

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>complains about wiring job
>lasted over 30 years just fine

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>>650344
This is a better way for suicide: put an electrical heater next to your shower. Next picture will show you how it's turned on and off.

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>>650349
Installing a heater is simple: just drill a hole trough the wall. Install the heater on one side and a power socket on another (the socket used to be where there red circle is but it came off when I tried to unplug the cable).

I'd tear everything out and install modern, grounded outlets everywhere along with sanitizing any layout issues.

You can do the wiring yourself, you just need a licensed electrician to approve it.

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>>650304
>junction box
You call that a junction box?
-at's no junction box
< -IIS is a junction box!

lmao. This is really special, OP.

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>>650304
>decided to leave the box's lid off to make it fit there
sometimes it's necessary...

>>650345
"how dare someone dislike botched, non-code installations that could easily have resulted in a house fire" Yeah, ok, that's "smrt".

>>650350
Mmmm. Tasty, tasty code violations.

>>650581
Mmm. Look at all that improperly handled wiring. If that's your work, you really need to stop doing electrical, you incompetent fuck.

>>650574
Make sure you get a good one. We had a guy out here installing an outlet for a new stove (old one was hella old and was wired directly). I tell the mofo, hey, I already switched off the 220 line at the breaker for you. Dude says yeah, sure. 5 minutes later I hear a scream from the kitchen. The dumbass went to the breaker, looked at all the switches, saw that all but one switched one way, and decided they all needed to look the same for the 220 to be off. I come into the kitchen and this dude is running his hands under the water of the sink, like that helps electrical burns, while my drywall is on fire. 4 foot flame crawling up the wall to the exhaust hood. mfw. This dude was a licensed electrician and insured and had been working in the business "over ten years". Yeah, right. Then I hear the company wouldn't pay for the damages because the wiring with "faulty". No shit assholes, thats why I had you out here to fix the fucking thing.

6 months back and forth with these jerks trying to get shit right and I finally pay for the repairs myself. Luckily the smug little fucks didn't even show up to the small claims hearing and I got a summery judgment of the full amount I was requesting (which was just about double my total costs, lol). Sold the debt to a collections agency and still came out ahead. Got a call about 2 months later from the derps asking me to settle to get the collectors off their backs. Told them it was out of my hands, you should have ponied up when I first asked. Later I find that, while their BBB rating was A+ their Yelp score was 2 stars. Guess the BBB has gone to shit these days too, since you can buy good ratings form them now. Guess thats all you need to sucker old people and morons like me that don't check new media.

>>650586
Not the same guy or an electrical guy. Can a setup like that be dangerous/fire hazard?

>>650578
Can I get the name of your electrician? My mother-in-law needs some work done at her place.

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>>650602
>Can I get the name of your electrician?
I do plumbing too.

>>650595
It's non-covered, so it's not up to code. Mostly it's just badly done. The thing is, there aren't more wires going into that junction box than it can handle....it's just that most of the runs of wire IN the box are about four to six inches longer than they need to be.

It's ugly, it's clunky, and it's a snag hazard. Someone walks bellow that with something, it snags on those wires, and tugs, and you have a potential short. That could result in electrocution. It could result in fire. It could result in damaged appliances on that circuit...if it's the wire plugged into your computer, your computer might go poof.

>>650605
i don't know which is stupidest.
>i know i'm supposed to put a bit of bendy pipe but i don't really understand why

>>650607
>There aren't more wires going into it than it can handle
Do you even box volume?

Let's be generous and pretend that's a 60 cu in box. (It's probably 30)

And let's pretend that's 14 gauge wire so 2" per conductor in box... which it might be. I count 16 cables. so 16*2 = 32 conductors. so a 64 cu in box to start with? fuck me. + 21 connectors. Nigga u srs? + ground = 54 deduction size?
Just... no. That box would never be okay for that. There's so many punch outs in a box so you can line it up with conduit nicely, not so you can fuck every orifice it has.

>>650663
>not so you can fuck every orifice it has.
Hey man, its a free country. Don't judge me.

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>>650663
>so a 64 cu in box to start with?
Use a bigger box - or more small ones?

>650668

that pic is genius at work.

>>650330
10/10

>>650581
what a whore.

>>650668
Lol wow. Dat nigga made a gutter out of 4square extensions.

>>650605
>lower left
DOUBLETRAP

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I looked, and behold, an ashen horse; and he who sat on it had the name Death; and Hades was following with him

>>650715
>AAA comes to replace your battery with their super awesome service
>Opens hood
"NOPE"
>closes hood
>drives off.
>flips you off

get off your fucking ass and do something instead of posting it on 4chan

>>650663
not saying it would be a perfect solution, just that it would be entirely possible, with proper wire management, to actually have done the job reasonably proper. Obviously, yes, a bigger box would have been better, but it could have been done "safely".

>>650715
Vehicular electrical is always fucked, though that's an especially interesting case.

>>650721
Note that he's mid fucking renovation?

>>650349
Basement junction "box" had special Finland smell to it, but that shower and sauna combo seals the deal.

I've seen some weird things also, mainly in the countryside. Some owner think they can do everything and as long as it works they think it's ok.

>>650736
There's no way to make that boxbsafer without getting a bigger box. Even wire management and closing the lid it still exceeds the number of conductors you can have in a box that small. There is just no way.

>>650607

Someone's got just enough knowledge to be dangerous.

Firstly, the capacity of the enclosure is not dictated by the quantity of knockouts, you idiot. There are knockouts all over the box to enable you to use the box a million different ways, not a million different conductors.

Leave this to the professionals before you start a fire.

>>650736

No asshole. That many conductors in that box would never be safe. There are reasons your local code book would agree with me. Have a real electrician read them to you some time.

Vehicular electrical is not fucked. You just don't know how it fucking works.

>>650304
if it is working don't fix it

>>650328
that hurts my brain

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>>650605
I know a gas plumber you could use as well.

>>650330

"eh fuck it, it's good enough"

>>650721
hah... actual email address... I'm gonna have fun with this one.

>>650304
You're Polish or something close to there, yeah, OP?

I pity you. Scary electrical stuff there.
I need to read up on their electrical code...

>>650330
Fuck, just burn the whole house.

>>650607
>>650736

I can see you've already been told,

>>650663
>>650776
>>650783
>>650785

but you can add me to the list of people telling you you're dead wrong.

If you were to clip those down, and manage to stuff it all into the box, you'd arguably be making it MORE hazardous, insofar as it would be even more prone to over-heating.

>worked for 30+ years
>no sign of critical failure inducing wear
>retarded
or maybe it's you

>>651487
you're a retarded tool.

>>650668
holy fuck extension rings. just get a fucking 8x8 /larger XD

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>>650304
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHA OH SHIT this had me tearing up from how hard i'm laughing. I'm surprised there isn't marks on the floor from the knuckle dragger that made this. Someone archive this please

>>652922

"I've got away with it so far."Is what retards say when you tell them to wear their seatbelt or a motorcycle helmet or safety glasses, etc... not wanting to believe that all these things we do for safety are in response to real injury. In other words, these safety rules are written in blood.

Fortunate is not the same as intelligent.

>>650646
Upper right I say, it doesn't serve its purpose.

>>653794
Neither does upper left...

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>>650330

>>653807
But it does, technically, anon...

Not the "bendy" part they put in, but the part before it technically creates a trap.

>>652967

In this case I think it's cause he didn't want to bend conduit or couldn't figure out how to do it, so he just used j-boxes instead.

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>>650304
Archived
http://4archive.org/diy/thread/650304

>>650736
I bought a '58 jeep. Three days later, i'm parking and i smell something kinda burning. Some asshole had put cotton insulated wire for the headlights. Repaired it a little with my leatherman and a few days latter stripped the whole electrical wiring. That wasn't the worst part I must add.

>>655418
'58 jeep, that was likely the stock wiring. The rubber disintegrates and leaves the outer braid.

The reproduction harnesses are well worth the investment.

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>>650330

>>655093
Dude, everything on /diy/ is archived.

Is there a book on this stuff or similar content where i can learn how to do this shit safe and with obeying the law/code?
I've made numerous through hole low voltage circuits so i am not a complete retard to electronics but mains voltage and house renovation stuff is new to me.

>>655465
Yes. The codes are in a code book.
NEC (National Electrical Code) in the states, CEC (Canadian Electrical Code) for canada obviously, if you're from somewhere else use your country's codebook.

>>655467
Do they even state things like how thick should be the copper wire, how to connect wires safely and things like that?

>>655469
yes

>>655470
Can i become a sort of passable electrician by reading the NEC and watching youtube videos? (i have electronic engineering background)
There are always some friends or family projects which would require some high voltage work (by "high" i mean higher than 15V) but i always turn them down but now i became interested in doing shit with my two hands instead of looking at a computer screen all day. I think i kinda miss building modular synths and things like that.

>>655469
sort of. they wont tell you how tightly to screw things in. most of it is common sense.

go build a lamp and come back. there are a few concepts involved in that like correct wiring, termination, mechanically securing the cable.

this all seems to be going in the direction that you're applying to work somewhere as an electrician but you're not qualified. mfw the first time you come up against a four point light fitting and need to google it blowing your cover.

>>655495
I don't really want to set my house or my friends/relatives houses on fire.

>>655514
if you can't work out how to build a lamp, dont do electrical work.

>>655522
I meant that comment as a reply to the idea that i want to do paid electrician jobs. I just want to help my family and friends here and there.